on this red cross thing who is watching this

bc he knew he was about to set it off.

more power to him. that's the first time i heard him speak and it wasn't all about him.

michael myers was just like ...
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to be reading off this teleprompter but he was like
"george bush doesnt care about black people" *cut to footage*

OMG that was amazing

he just went off. you could tell he was a little shaken about what he was saying but he put it out there

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That was funny. He spoke on how the media was saying black people were looters and how white people were looking for food. Shit was great

>to be reading off this teleprompter but he was like
>"george bush hates black people" *cut to footage*
>
>OMG that was amazing


Holy Shit! *hops off toilet*

thank you ye for representing young black people correctly.


i fuckin missed it though. damm.

somebody get me a video link, i HAVE to see this...
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he was beginning to turn me off. i thought he was tryna be a puffy/dame. and he was getting a little too big for hit britches, imo. but he gets a atanding o from me.

*bows down to kanye*

who observes ... he's got you.

about black people......

he keeping it real!!! He looks nervous but he said it

i thought i was dreaming...like, "is that kanye"

my mom just looked at me. like what did you say? my fucking jaw hit the floor

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that's so not cool!

HE'S A BEAUTIFUL MAN! He's THERE MAKING IT HAPPEN!

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they cut away pretty quick. I had to come check here to see if I was hearing things.

Kanye through everyone off.

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heh... they are now

Oh man. That made my day. Thanks homie.

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the folks at the Superdome adn also something about him not donating money immediatly. His piece de resistance was "George Bush does not care about black people."

that was a direct quote...wow
he also said that america is set up so that its black citizens and poorest citizens suffer, esp. in a situation such as this

he also said that the people who could help are off fighting in Iraq...

and that the reason help was slow was b/c the people affected were both poor and black...

(paraphrasing)

props to Kanye to say on National TV what I was thinking...wow

Kanye is speaking his/my mind.

Though it's disheartening to know that they cut him off. That is not okay.

he would be a hipocrite if he didnt point at himself. he "went shopping before giving a donation" but now hes callin his financial people to donate

statement. just owning up to your own personal truths.

The network cut real quick to Chris Tucker to get Kanye off the screen, but I'm glad he got that last line in. Thank goodness someone is speaking out.

(and by the way, your "paraphrasing" was much more coherent and came out better than Kanye's nervous words.)

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that negro's gonna be in Gitmo by the end of the weekend.
White folks will be PISSED. They don't want some uppity nigga sayin somethin we all know is true. Especially after they put him on the cover of Time.

cept the end of Kanye part

some shit

not at all
not at all.

that don't happen.

and be the whipping boy
he said what we all been thinking on a national platform
we cant let him take a downfall for this
i think everyone should go out
and buy his album and push it off the charts this weekend

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Then they sure as hell don't have time for someone who's talking...
but i know rich people have issues with critism. so fuck em! talk all out...

fuck that.kayne can says what he wants... he ain't goin nowhere. he's got protection... Fuck That.

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And lol @ this...I know what he said was a good thing.

But yo.

His album *still* just came out.

Come on y'all.

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>
>mike was scared and confused
>
>ye was ramblin


well, there were reports of snipers... which i STILL dont understand...

he saw that whole thing and was like Oh Fuck MotherFucker shit shit shit the whole time mike myers is totally into the prompter.. not so funny now areya mikey.

the motherfuckin man.i would pay to see george bush's reaction at that moment.

i want to know whats going on backstage

i never liked kanye until today, right now this moment he just got another fan.

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i can't get the smirked off my fuckin face since i read what he said. nigguh tellin the truth too.

kanye will sell 12,310,975 copies of late reg. after this. nigguh just killed two birds with one stone. he will be the talk of the music biz after this.

hope he don't get black-balled for this...

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ah well.
there'll be a link by monday.

if not the they beter free martin

wait I didn't hear him say George Bush doesn't care about Black people. It ended with the and now they aying they can shoot us.

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Gimme them toes!

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It was hilarious...I knew something was up, becuz dude was stutterin something serious...but that was GREAT!!!

he said what many people are thinking...so glad he put the truth out there for us.

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kanye's no better than tom cruise when it comes to informing the public on "how it is". both are not as intelligent as they think they are.

i dont think the crappy relief effort in NO stems from the fact that most of the stranded are black. It would be easy to look at the situation and infer that, but I highly doubt it's the case. Really though, who knows? I don't know, and neither does Kanye West. But he's telling everyone on national TV, how it is.

he does have guts though. and he's dead on about the black=looters, white=food collector thing in the media.

>and he's dead on about the
>black=looters, white=food collector thing in the media.

Why do you feel this way?:

>i dont think the crappy relief effort in NO stems from the
>fact that most of the stranded are black. It would be easy to
>look at the situation and infer that, but I highly doubt it's
>the case.

If Katrina hit the Hamptons or Martha's Vineyard, you wouldn't see people out there stranded for days at a time and you know it. Why? Because those are White people with money, status, and "clout". Don't CHOOSE to be ignorant.

The mindset that Blacks are nothing but animalistic criminal "looters" stems from the same mindset that that Black life isn't as valuable as White life...therefore if a bunch of poor Black niggers die, what is the REAL loss?

...

In 2005 things are just a bit more subtle than they were in 1955 or earlier and here's why:

America has ALWAYS had a high tolerance for Black suffering and Black pain (Jesse Jackson said this last night on CNN). Look at all the years it took for slavery to end and then the 100 years of Jim Crow. It takes whitey a looooooooooong time to finally wake up say "this ain't right".

I don't necessarily believe that the powers that be said..."let them niggers suffer for 4 days" but what we saw happen in NO is definitely fueled by the indifference of a white America that sees Black pain and suffering as "normal". If the overwhelming majority of of the disaster victims were white, there would be an immediate connection that would lead to compassion and empathy.

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>kanye's no better than tom cruise when it comes to informing
>the public on "how it is". both are not as intelligent as they
>think they are.
>
>i dont think the crappy relief effort in NO stems from the
>fact that most of the stranded are black. It would be easy to
>look at the situation and infer that, but I highly doubt it's
>the case. Really though, who knows? I don't know, and neither
>does Kanye West. But he's telling everyone on national TV, how
>it is.
>
>he does have guts though. and he's dead on about the
>black=looters, white=food collector thing in the media.


SHUT YO DUMB @SS UP!!

saying his part? i was like oh shit. and then chris tucker's reaction when it suddenly switched to him and he had to come up with some shit to say all of a sudden?

and play it off

He has just earned the Claw LIFETIME PASS for this.

I'll try to type it all out if there's no link soon.

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.

That's some serious courage.

if this ain't some BS

http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Hurricane_Relief/

theyll prolly repeat all weekend too

positive

to think i will have actually purchased both his albums.

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Access Hollywood?
MTV Maybe?

I also turn the TV off when good shit happens!

.

come on footage beside the 'offical' studio footage is out there

I agree. I suspect that it will be edited and not discussed in the mainstream media. It could be an opportunity to open up a serious dialogue (i.e. w/ Bush and the other Powers That Be) about race and class in America, but I don't think ready for that (if they ever will be).

(but I'm canadian, so what do I know!?)

even though I wasn't planning on it..i'm buying Late Registration now too.

.......

The shit is sickening!!
Kayne held it down for black folk who are supposedly looting and watching white folk find food.


Why we cant never help our own country? where them big ass military planes at to scoop them people up?
HuH? shit if more of our black celebs get off they bougie high horses and stand up for shit maybe they can make some shit happen....where they platinum, oscar gold money at huh?
Where the peoples army at? Hello?

thumbs up for Kayne West

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but it needed to be said out loud. Everyone else is in denial or too scared to admit it. Much respect to you Kanye for putting the truth out there.

I had much love for you before, but you have definitely earned my admiration for this one.

he woulda been hero and asshole at the same time.

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cause that would've totally ruined it for me.

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Kanye was stuttering and scared looking like he knows they gonna snipe him the second he steps out of the studio tho

he was nervous as shit doing it, but he stood up.

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i have soooooooooo much more respect for him becuz of this.

I don't agree with everything he said, but hopefully it sparks some dialogue, and it was gutsy.

.

Thank you. I have a new found respect for this dude.

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He gonna go 1903840932x plat

he was mad nervous
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kanye did THE damn thang.
shit was heartfelt.
and he looked mad nervous.
dude represented.

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I only caught the last few minutes of this. Wow!!
Kanye gets much respect

he was mad nervous but he got it out and did you see the look on mike meyers face and then cut to chris tucker man, i wonder if there is gonna be any backlash from this

It needed to be said and I'm so glad he had the courage to do it. I'm proud of him.

on my momma...

the look...mike...kanye...chris...classic...

*edit* and thank you for postin' that link...gooood lookin'...

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i may be making a tshirt and wearing it to work tomorrow. why? cuz fairfax va is chalk'fulla rich republicans.

....

Thanks a lot man.

Wow, I can't believe Kanye really went out and did that. It's good though, someone needed to say something.

Mike Myers and Chris Tucker's faces were priceless. Myers is from my hometown, Scarborough, so I rep for him, but damn he looked totally shocked by Kanye and what he was saying. Hope he doesn't lash out publically at Kanye.

Also, by the looks of all the posts, seems like Kanye just sold lots of people and is gonna be receiving a good amount of extra sales from this.

Mike Myers was about to shit on himself.

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the look on his face was priceless. tucker was like "wtf i do now".


ye is dat nigguh

looks like a biatch next to kanye. i'm glad kanye had the courage to do that.

VH1 has to redo their "100 most shocking TV moments" show.

and on fucking NBC.....wow...

I hate the way they portray us in the media
If you see a black family it says they're looting
If you see a white family it says they're looking for food
And you know it's been five days because most of the people
are black adn even for me
to complain about...I would be a hypocrite because I tried to turn away from the TV because it's too hard
to watch. I've even been shopping before giving a donation so now I'm calling my business manager right now to see what is the biggest amount I can give and just to imagine if I was down there and those are my people down there, so anybody out there that wants to do anything so we can help with the setup the way America is set up to help the poor, the black people, the less well off as slow as possible I mean this is, Red Crross is doing everything they can. We already realize alot of the people that coudl help are at war right now fighting another way and they've given them permission to go down and shoot us.

Mike Myers speaks some more


George Bush doesn't care about black people

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oh!

Nagin/West for 08. I making up t shirts and giving them bitches away...

hiphopsite'll be happy to include the shirt wit their orders i'm sure

have your people call me people. let percolate in the 08 *thumbs up*

for real

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Kanye has made himself a HIP HOP LEGEND!!!!!!!!!

bout time one of these rapping niggas finally took action.

it will be interesting to see what his donation looks like.

gotta love the man though

couldn't believe my eyes
word up
he gets 1000 cool points
shit needed to be said
cnn msnbc fox they're all
beatin' around that proverbial bush
we need to be explicit about
the racial over/undertones
of the snail mail aid
yay kanye
nobody else has balls
cept ironically
harry connick jr.

i heard he said something but missed it .

he sympathized with the looters...and dispelled the whole "finders" versus "looters" idea. He said that people were just doing what they had to to survive....after they had lost so much. With no help, what else were they to do? He would have done the same, and gave insight that he actually used to live in the area and totally sympathizes...it was wild cool when he said it.

He used to live in a homeless shelter, and one of his boys from there is a famous DJ who's name I forget now

at least for now

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I'm a white man cheerin that shit on.

You got that right. I'm white I am so proud that someone had the balls to get on TV and say that.

kanye said what needed to be said

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i dont really like alot of non brown people right now...dont get me started

but HEAVILY SALTED PREMIUM SALTINE CRACKA ASS CRACKAAAAAAAAS, fire.

These jabronis don't deserve to be called "YT" even.

Motherfuckers are off-white. Toilet bowl color and shit...

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the article claiming kanye's remark was a "selfish" move.

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that's a contact to whoever runs that website
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everybody add that name to ur lists and harrass the shit out of em next time they sign on.

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..kudos to Kanye....mike myers wasnt trying to end shit.
secretly he agreed, and chris' is becoming a yes man....
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Man, f--- those people. His integrity and honesty to the American people is worth more than one person's raggedy $15.00 anyway.

and yeah, i voted. hahah.



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~ she's looking down at us, pointin' & laffin'. ~

and I don't even normally read that shit

fuck an lbrown

That guy sounds like he wants to go hang Kanye on a tree or something. I can't believe that people are really angry about what he said.

This ain't some game. I don't want no cool points with whitey. Imma say something that comes from the soul that's real that's not some regurgitated rhetoric from some propaganda piece. <---That right there is why I respect Kanye. It's about damn ma fucking time somebody spoke up!

They will just ban him from NBC affiliates.

Just like they did
Sinead
Martin Lawrence

Thats basically how they silence people now.
Marginalize them like they did other artists

i doubt he cares yo.





what was the last relevant thing nbc has aired?











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maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

he took a big ass gulp to contain himself...LOL

go Kanye

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he's a black man
he pulled off a stunt comparable if not bigger than sinead o connor ripping the pope's picture on SNL

we're excited, but he could be taken off of this earth/out of the public spotlight soon.

for their time, MLK Jr. wasnt that controversial and Malcolm was.

How I wish this wasn't true....

>we're excited, but he could be taken off of this earth/out of
>the public spotlight soon.


but the conspiracy theorist, scratch that--realist in me fears you may be right. I shudder to think what Bush & Co. is capable of. Condi would probably lead the pack of wolves.

No way this is bigger than that shit. It's big, but not comparable to the tearing of the Pope.

that is bigger than the Pope.

that's why YE is and always has been my nigga
he has like 3 more days to live though

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when i see people just reaching out.. other people like kayne, he was sooo upset ..

i'm so crying right now.

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he aint know what to do or how to react

lol

daaamn

he aint know what to do or how to react

lol

daaamn

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Knowledge of self is like Life after Death -Talib Kweli

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'finding' difference.

Props to Kans for knowing that.

I wish I could see video of when he made that comment.

I'm kinda irritated it cut off where it did.

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what i gathered from that was 'nigga you makin us look bad on tv, i got a career to save'

he stumbled and did his best

im proud and scared at this point

he was literally grasping for straws...

Like who the fuck sends trucks?

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http://www.kget.com/entertainment/story.aspx?content_id=0E71260D-B9E0-4A4A-8621-7A101016AA7A

Ryan Burrow - Chicago

During NBC's live broadcast of Concert for Hurricane Relief rapper Kanye West, in what appeared to be an impromptu address, told viewers that National Guardsmen were given the unfair order to shoot at African-Americans on the streets of New Orleans.

In a stumbling, yet defiant statement, West proclaimed that when African-Americans were caught stealing in New Orleans, they were called looters. However when whites were caught, they were just feeding their families.

He was joined by former Saturday Night Live star Mike Myers, who returned to the script, and seemed frustrated by the the rapper's remarks.

West then declared "George Bush doesn't care about black people." Before the rapper could complete his statement, NBC producers cut away.

The hour-long NBC telethon Friday raised money for the Red Cross. Other musicians included Harry Connick Junior, Tim McGraw, and Aaron Neville.

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they were just talking about kanye

.

larry king " do you think that george bush doesnt care about black people"

jesse jackson gives some BS then they cut to some guy who talked about how much the president cared as evident by his trip there today.

media people just want to say how things are getting better and the situation is getting calmer.

what they arent showing his how people are sick, dead bodies are floating around, women and children are getting raped and junkies are wondering around going through withdrawl and ish.

Mr. I Am Somebody did say after Larry asked him again if what Kanye said was true Jesse said that

"he (Bush) dosen't show it."

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WOW. It's kind of hard to watch him go off. But I'm definitely buying CD AND Late Registration tomorrow.

dude.

I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD!! I AM SO PROUD OF KANYE - HE HAS GAINED MY RESPECT...AND I WILL SUPPORT HIM IN ANY WAY!

http://www.fox23news.com/entertainment/story.aspx?content_id=0E71260D-B9E0-4A4A-8621-7A101016AA7A

I wanna see a link to it on the Homepage!! Depending on how canny they are, the newspeople may or may not sensationalize it.

okay all the hate is officially gone forever.

i wanna write that nigga some fanmail now

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9177352/

Benefit Concert Goes From Great To ‘Wow’
Great music goes with an important message, but Kanye West steals show

5:41: Mike Myers and Kanye West are on now, talking about the homeless situation. Kanye brings up an important point, talking about how the media portrays white people as seeking food and blacks as looters. He goes into an impassioned speech about the difficulties blacks are having during the Katrina fallout and in the country in general. Mike Myers is with him at the start.

About 10 seconds in, it's clear he's not reading from the prompter. He stumbles a bit on his points, but most of them get across. The basic message to the government? Stop dragging your feet and help the people down there. Myers gives him a couple "oh my God" looks, and then another when Kanye says "They've given them permission to go down and shoot us."

Myers, clearly stressed, goes into another point about the hurricane and how New Orleans is forever changed. Then Kanye drops the biggest bomb.

"George W. Bush doesn't care about black people," West said. Myers turns to him and clearly has no idea what to say. Then they go to a flabbergasted Chris Tucker.

Kanye was one frustrated man on TV. (And really, I can't do it justice here. Watch the video.)

Not sure what kind of flack Kanye's gonna catch for that last bit, but I'm sure he doesn't care. And good for him to bring up a point on the media's portrayal of blacks that can't be said enough. Not sure if I agree, but it's always good to have someone out there, challenging the media to be as fair as possible.

5:47: Missed most of Aaron Neville's last song, "Amazing Grace," trying to figure out exactly what Kanye said. Still can't believe it. Be sure to check back with MSNBC.com later to see the free video.

hahahaha mike meyers heart almost jumped out of his damn mouth

kanye said exactly what most people are thinking right now and i'll be damned if the media starts taking shots at his person on some "how can you disrespect the president like that etc. etc."....

just like all of y'all said above, since we all agree with him let's get his back if shit hits the fan

but i was glad he said that shit yo. However hard it was to say that shit, he got it out. I wonder how the hip hop community is gonna back him up.

George Bush Doesn't care about POOR people Ye's stmnt is still True but he coulda reached more people by stressing that with Bush it aint just Black and White. it's rich and poor. anyway Word up. i'm proud of him!


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Knowledge of self is like Life after Death -Talib Kweli

Peace, Luv, Power

What Kanye said is true, but it's wider than that.

If you didn't contribute to Bush's campaign in 05, he doesn't care about you.... regardless of color.

I understand your point about a statement about the poor being able to subsume more people under the heading of disempowerment and such; it is true that the poor in our nation have no power and little access to opportunities. However, issues of race are often obfuscated and lost when conflated with issues of class; the truth is that there is much systematic discrimination in our nation that goes above and beyond poverty issues (and back to slavery; see my piece "Start with Slavery" in several other OkayBoards). People aren't being lynched anymore; modern racism in the United States is something that transcends socioeconomic status, because it links deeply-rooted biases and prejudices about people of color with the effects of our policies, laws, mortgage-lending practices, penal system, education, media, etc., on those people. The media, for instance, probably didn't realize that it is completely ignorant to be calling all those people "refugees"--instead American citizens--because they were black.

It is *very* important to focus on race separately than on class in order to address the gross negligence of people of color in this nation.

PeAcE

Peace well stated. All of your points are valid and understood by me.
I see you understand mine as well. I will check for your topic on the other board.

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quite fitting no?

college drop out and late registration... this IS HISTORY IN THE MAKING.

http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/entertainment/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-5/1125714844131042.xml&storylist=entertainment&thispage=1

There was a several-second tape delay, but the person in charge "was instructed to listen for a curse word, and didn't realize (West) had gone off-script," said NBC spokeswoman Rebecca Marks.

i woulda played hella dumb. Let 'Ye REALLY go off.

they got the "you'll never work in this town again!' shit
and chances are
they mean it

maybe to "heard em say"

???

That shit took some serious gonads.

you can tell he was so mad and nervous,
i know that feeling he had
you just feel so mad
i bet he doesnt even remember what he said
but i'm glad he did it.

i was surprised to see this

these are from a post that somebody put up thanking kanye:

I too am a white woman... U need to take a long look @ who you are supporting. This is NOT a race issue. The fact of the matter is that NOLA is predominantly a black city, so you are going to see more black faces than white. President Bush has failed, but by trusting people like Michael Brown (the director of FEMA) to perform their job duties. KAYNE WEST is an idiot and you are just as bad as him. He was IN NOLA you dumb bitch, get your facts straight. Have you gotten off your fat, middle aged ass and done anything to help your self? THE TRUTH... people like you and KAYNE are whats wrong with this country.

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Let me guess, 'ole Jessie put you up to it right? Ohh, that's right, he's too busy buying oil from central America! Go f*** yourself you leftist whore.

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from another post:

I AM FROM BATON ROUGE , LOUISIANA AND MY HEART IS HURT AND SAD FOR KANYE! THE PURE FACT IS KANYE HAS A NEW ALBUM COMING OUT AND HE DON'T GIVE A s*** ABOUT ANY OF US DOWN HERE! AS A BLACK WOMAN I AM DISGUSTED . AS A LOUISIANA NATIVE THAT HAS MET AND HEARD THE EVACUEES HORROR STORIES I AM ASHAMED OF KANYE. I HAVE SAT AT MY CHURCH IN THE MIDDLE OF PEOPLE THAT FLED IF ONLY WITH THEIR LIVES . I HAVE CRIED , I HAVE WORRIED, I HAVE BEEN THREW HELL THIS WEEK BUT I THANK GOD FOR THE BRETH I TAKE AND THE PILLOW THAT I LAY ON . THE FOOD THAT I EAT . THE HOUSE THAT I AM SITTING IN . AND THE HELP THAT LOUISIANA HAS RECEIVED HAS BEEN AWESOME BUT THE NEWS DOESN'T SHOW EVERYTHING . SO IF KANYE WANTS TO COME DOWN AND SEE THE AWESOME BROTHERHOOD THAT IS PULSING THREW OUR STATE HE WOULD MOST DEFINITELY THINK OF THE VERBAL DIARRHEA THAT HAS COME OUT OF HIS MOUTH TONIGHT. KANYE TALKS A BIG GAME IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA BUT I DIDN'T SEE HIM OFFERING ONE OF HIS MTV CRIBS FOR SHELTER. GOD BE WITH HIM BECAUSE THE HATE I SAW IN HIS EYES AND THE DEVIL SURROUNDING HIM WAS VERY DISTURBING TO ME TONIGHT. PLEASE SEND US ALL YOUR PRAYERS KANYE INSTEAD OF HATE . GOD BLESS ALL OF US, JINA D

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Dear Roc-a-fella
What a dumb idea to give Mrs. West permission to go on the Hurricane fundraiser.
People are dead and all your "star" can do is spew garbage from his mouth about the President.
What help he was. I can bet that people will not donate because of that squatters words.
Does that make you happy?
When you meet with Kanye to discuss his comments on the show tell him that he needs to go down there and deliver food to the victims. If he does, and he wont, then he can say those words.
I hope the thousands of dead haunt him for the rest of his life.
Thanks for reading this post and I hope this is the end of Mrs. West's career.

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lol

ya'll KNOW we got this posting shit DOWN

he ups his game e'ry promo

MTV All Eyes
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now this

*smh*

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me and my son..

Damn, I wanna know what the conversation between Myers and Kanye went like after that. My man Chris Tucker was shook, talkin bout send water, send trucks(lol).

http://www.pixelmd.com/kanye.html

Why is it that whenever something goes wrong, people are more quick to assess blame than to actually help fix the problem. its annoying.

lets see how much edit its gonna get...

people part...

That was just grand!!!

Wow...They will be put on blast for this.













oops...had to edit my edit

he wasn't sounding too articulate. I know it was nerves, but the fact he said that isht on national TV makes him my hero. Here's the article.

http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20050903/D8CCH43O1.html?PG=home&SEC=news

Kanye West Rips Bush During NBC Concert

Sep 2, 11:02 PM (ET)

By FRAZIER MOORE


NEW YORK (AP) - It began, fittingly enough, with jazz from New Orleans natives Harry Connick Jr. and Wynton Marsalis. But "A Concert for Hurricane Relief," a heartfelt and dignified benefit aired on NBC and other networks Friday night, took an unexpected turn thanks to the outspoken rapper Kanye West.

Appearing two-thirds through the program, he claimed "George Bush doesn't care about black people" and said America is set up "to help the poor, the black people, the less well-off as slow as possible."
The show, simulcast from New York on NBC, MSNBC, CNBC and Pax, was aired live to the East Coast, enabling the Grammy-winning rapper's outburst to go out uncensored.
There was a several-second tape delay, but the person in charge "was instructed to listen for a curse word, and didn't realize (West) had gone off-script," said NBC spokeswoman Rebecca Marks.

Immediately after the airing was over, Marks said it was undetermined how much, if any, of the tirade would be included in the taped West Coast feed three hours later.
The host was NBC News' Matt Lauer, who invited viewers to contribute to the American Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund by phone or on the Web. Some 18 presenters performed musical numbers or gave information on the tragedy's huge scope.

Louisiana native Tim McGraw teared up as he told Lauer, "I know the citizens that weren't affected by this directly are gonna stand up and do good things for people." He sang two songs, then became the first of the evening's stars to sign a Gibson Les Paul Special guitar to be auditioned online.

Faith Hill, a Mississippi native, sang "There Will Come a Time," with the inspiring lyrics, "The darkness will be gone, the weak shall be strong. Hold on to your faith."
New Orleans son Aaron Neville performed Randy Newman's soulful "Louisiana 1927" with the memorable chorus, "they're trying to wash us away, they're trying to wash us away."
New York governor George Pataki presented the Red Cross with a check for $2.5 million and promised, "This great state will do far more."

"In terms of property damage," said actress Hilary Swank, "the estimate is at least $26 billion in insured losses and perhaps twice that in uninsured losses over a 90,000-square-mile area - approximately the size of Kansas."
Other speakers included Lindsay Lohan, Eric LaSalle, Glenn Close, Richard Gere, John Goodman and Leonardo DiCaprio.

Comedian Mike Myers was paired with West for a 90-second segment that began with Myers speaking of Katrina's devastation. Then, to Myers' evident surprise, West began a rant by saying, "I hate the way they portray us in the media. If you see a black family, it says they're looting. See a white family, it says they're looking for food."
While allowing that "the Red Cross is doing everything they can," West - who delivered an emotional outburst at the American Music Awards after he was snubbed for an award - declared that government authorities are intentionally dragging their feet on aid to the Gulf Coast. Without getting specific, he added, "They've given them permission to go down and shoot us."

After he stated, "George Bush doesn't care about black people. Please call _" the camera cut away to comedian Chris Tucker.
Concluding the hour a few minutes later, Lauer noted that "emotions in this country right now are running very high. Sometimes that emotion is translated into inspiration, sometimes into criticism. We've heard some of that tonight. But it's still part of the American way of life."

Then the entire ensemble performed "When the Saints Go Marching In."
In a statement, NBC said, "Kanye West departed from the scripted comments that were prepared for him, and his opinions in no way represent the views of the networks.
"It would be most unfortunate," the statement continued, "if the efforts of the artists who participated tonight and the generosity of millions of Americans who are helping those in need are overshadowed by one person's opinion."

Friday's program was the first of several TV benefits planned through next weekend.
NBC and the five other major commercial broadcast networks, along with PBS, plan to unite next Friday for a special. The same night, BET will air a benefit. And on Saturday, Sept. 10, the MTV networks will air a special.
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Haha...I sent them a tip and they posted up about it. Good for them.

i swear fo god

**call to action in support of Kanye West and the Victims of katrina**

---The Situation----

as u know, iont even listen to music like that & frankly I didnt think to kindly of "Golddiggers", but I respect Kanye's right to make the song.

and, I respect and support him in what he said during the "A Concert for Hurricane Relief" because he was right.

there is no good excuse why federal relief did not get to the victims sooner.... there is only one reason:

"George Bush does not care about Black (or poor) people"


--- The Target ----

We must quickly register full support of Kayne West's statement.
We need to ensure that Kanye West is not at all black-balled in any way and is congratulated for his bravery, honesty and forthrightness.


--- The Plan---

Each person reading this post must email a statement simply indicating that "we support Kanye's Statement" to all of the following:

us senator: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
the white house: comments@whitehouse.gov
the red cross: https://www2.redcross.org/contactusform/
Kanye's record label: sitesupport@rocafella.com
NBC: Today@NBC.com
Associated Press: info@ap.org


btw, I'm gonna buy 5 of his new cd's now... just because of what he did.

you KNOW they gonna try to "Dixie Chick" that brotha off of this, most likely even worst...

IN PERSON.

i'll still email some suits though.

That's real. Cuz there will be some SERIOUS backlash off of this shit.

And he BET not apologize for it!

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fuck the music shit, just on this alone man...

ITS SO NUUUUUUUUUTS

Even during a fundraiser he can't stop from trying to steal the spotlight. Trying to focus on what HE wants to focus on instead of the objective that all of the celebrities were doing the show for.

It's amazing how as late as yesterday everyone is around here talking shit about Kanye, saying he's selfish and arrogant, now everyone is up in here praising him as a hero because he's said the things every other celebrity has been saying. My how things can change in an instant.
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nothing to see here.

i heard the tear from his eye hit the floor when that nigga spoke.

Every other minute yall bitching about something Kanye's done, whether complaining about not getting an award to ranting on magazines about how good he is or the rant at the Toronto radio station a couple of weeks ago.

When he did Live Aid, I didn't say anything, because celebrities ranting about Bush has been a normal thing. But now he goes on television and does the same thing when this was meant to be a major fundraiser to get help to those families.

Now, how many people you think heard what he said and told NBC to go fuck off? Kanye's grandstanding didn't help one black person in New Orleans; it only helped him gain notoriety. Even in the face of all this it's still all about Kanye.
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>now everyone is up in here praising him as a hero because he's
>said the things every other celebrity has been saying. My how
>things can change in an instant.


I don't recall anyone else with Kanye's status saying that Bush doesn't care about blacks. I think people are reacting to the fact that he took such a chance. It shows that he's not that concerned about being commercial.

Kanye doesn't have a status. He's just a rapper. And that's all most of America will ever think of him.

When they show his name, the first word that will come out of the mouths of most people is "Who?"
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>Kanye doesn't have a status. He's just a rapper.

Just a rapper? Do you KNOW how many white listen to hip hop?
>And that's
>all most of America will ever think of him.

After this, I don't think so.

>When they show his name, the first word that will come out of
>the mouths of most people is "Who?"

Why are you worried about most (aka white )people and who they know? The point is, he' s famous enough to be asked to be on a national syndicated telethon, and he spoke his mind.

On top of that, he didn't even get the "looting vs. finding" shit right, as he was only repeating a false story.

He's sold many records. Good for him. I think he's a great rapper. But he's still a rapper, and when it comes down to it, he set himself up to gain. Not the Red Cross, not NBC, nor anyone in New Orleans. If he wanted to speak his mind, he should have picked a better venue to do so.
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A newspaper article?
BET?
A new single?

What would have been better? Some place where fewer people would have heard it?

for the costliest natural disaster in American history.

Just because millions of people were watching doesn't make it appropriate. Opportunistic? Sure. But at who's expense?
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I understand that the timing was unusual. But I still admire his moxy.

your perscription is mixed up.
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Associated Press did one, Agence France-Presse was the other.

In other words, it was a French news agency that claimed a black person looted, while the AP said the woman "found"
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so while it's AP's fault for AFP's caption, the difference is still important and telling in terms of media coverage as a whole. not to mention that the two most notorious photos aren't the only ones.

hum.... I guess your right time magazine means nothing.

Also, no one is saying he isn't selfish and arrogant. We just have to add "A real ass motherfucker" to that list.

that noone had a clue that you were about to do.

Kanye isn't doing anything that others haven't done.
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Besides Michael Moore,
And Kanye doesn't have White Privilege to protect him.


>Kanye isn't doing anything that others haven't done.
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Martin Sheen
Susan Sarandon
Sean Penn
The Dixie Chicks
Dick Gregory
Harry Belafonte
Danny Glover
Rosie O'Donnell
Jadakiss

and on and on and on.

It's the same ole shit. Same old Bush bashing, and Kanye's little rant is going to do nothing to change a thing. It only helped HIM out.
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There was someone there to berate their opinion and undermine their cause. Kanye spoke when no one expected it, yes, and because of that people are listening.

And how on earth do you figure it helped him out. We like it, but white people make him rich.

I'm losing respect for you on the real. You don't care of course, but you're just hating without any reason here.

because they were willing to be challenged for their beliefs, no matter how stupid they were.

And even if they did do it on a pundit's show, so what? The point is they've said the same things he's said.

What you guys don't realize is that it's little stupid stunts like these that will keep drawing people away from the left because they are self-serving and underhanded. Kanye will get some short-term fame, but it didn't help the ones he was claiming to help.
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the real self serving, underhanded ones here are those who did not send aid to those
citizens in new orleans in a timely manner to prevent death and suffering.

do not get it twisted.

when people die and suffer thirst and hunger to serve your underhands purposes that IS TRUE self serving.

those people are not suffering right now because of Kanye.

people in this country are very very angry. he is one of them, he is letting off steam at risk to his career and potential earnings.
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It's a hurricane. You're not going to prevent death and suffering. The roads and overpasses are dangerous to drive on, you had people looting and raising havoc in that city, and it does take time to get things done.

Kanye isn't speaking for anyone but himself. He's not going to suffer from this incident because hip hop fans are mostly Bush haters anyway. It's the Red Cross that has to suffer, as they now have to deal with the complaints and backlash from this incident.
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I appreciate having our concerns voiced on a national stage

Like that makes a big deal.
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i agree with u about what kanye did
he prolly felt he was doing something grand but
he shouldve worked on his techique
u on red cross dog
say that shit on the next awards
dont fuck with other peoples money unless
ur ready to equal what red cross wouldve maybe couldve done


i aint falling for that shit

lol

you are definitely twisted
and have it twisted beyond belief
at even associating the term suffering with an organization the relieves suffering. but is still an organization and your going to apply the term to an entity, an organization that is not a person? and to use to term so loosely when real suffering is occuring

...

you haven't a clue.
your ignorance is showing
you callousness is abhorent


i'll stop now
i can't waste any more time on your ignorance.
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try again.
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Kanye has a recognizeable image and he's using it to voice the concerns of his people. I've had the same thoughts pass through my head but that doesn't mean Bush will ever hear from me personally. He can't escape the allegations when they takes on a celebrity/notoriety of their own and people want a good response/action to take place from the powers that be. He didn't hurt anyone by not sticking to the script and speaking from his heart. I'm actually relieved that he can still think for himself and not cater to TV execs who also get ratings off of this coverage.

Also who is to say that he isn't hurt by what happened? I don't have family in that area but I know folks from down there. It affects me. He put his rep on the line and who knows what he is going to do tomorrow as far as a response. He didn't plan for the Hurricane to hit when his album drops. Jus' had to vent a bit.

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I never said Kanye isn't troubled about what's going on there, but there's no question that he is misinformed about what was going on there, and he used the event to place himself into the spotlight.

He isn't risking anything. As I said before, hip hop fans are mostly far left anyway. He'll probably receive a boost in sales because of this stunt.
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that'll learn them fockers to trot him out and expect him to dance like a monkey (at least clowns get their own ring)

he spoke his mind when he had the shot rather than play the role they wanted him to play

agree or disagree....we need way more of THAT

because now nobody other than far-left organizations will ask him to do any kind of fundraisers or work.

I can see MoveOn.org lickin their lips now.
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it's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out logterm

but he's painted a big target on himself (from supporters who'll want him to be "the voice/face" and from detractors who'll seek to cruxify him

more than anything i hope he's prepared for what he has gotten himself into

most white people don't even know who his ass is, it will be forgotten in a week
it just felt good to hear somebody say to millions what everyone was thinking anyway
that is all

and that was just the *grammys*

Sinead o'Connor rips up a pic of the Pope and still hasn't recovered

don't trip

and who gives a fuck about sinead
it's really not that serious, he's still just a fucking rapper to white people and they could care less what he thinks
ain't nobody gon be talking about it by monday cept us

no one even knew what Sinead was getting at at the time.

Ye's comments were much more related to the matter at hand. I'd say this is more akin to Michael Moore's comments at the Oscars a couple years back. You see that didn't hurt him much.

u aint *always* gonna like what someone does/says.

but when they DO say or do something that u like, u are supposed to tell em so ... the same way you tell em when u DONT like what they say or do.

for example, if u ever EVER say anything I like, u'll know cuz I'll tell u; til then tho... u can just kindly shut thee fuck up.

deal??

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with that bullshit!!

I was waiting to hear the nutella reference.
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cameras that george bush doesn't care about black folx?

essentially saying the same thing. Here's a snippet (and yes, if you're wondering, he's being sarcastic):

>No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!

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And my other point was that there were cats who are celebrating all up in this post who wanted to get huffy with Michael for not showing up down there and passing food out, or donating money (as far as they know). And if you honestly believe that Michael Moore won't go on TV and say some shit, then you really need to bone up on him.
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after watching this clip. i'm certainly not mad at him, but i don't see why i should be so moved to go and rush order LR cause dude got empassioned. after reading all the posts, i really am genuinely suprised to see how revolutionary people are finding this. i dunno...*shrug*...things just don't hit everyone in the same way i guess.

You're an unabashed partisan who has nothing better to do than to launch ad hominem attacks at the left and pretend that any attack against the Right is a near criminal act.

So your claim is that what Kanye said detracts from the victims plight and will somehow result in less donations........yet, you're mad about people donating to move-on since they're a leftist organization, instead of just being happy that someone else is raising money for the victims.

Your motives/perspective is quite clear and you're not fooling anyone.

If Kanye tore into the left - you'd be clapping, this we know, as thats your real issue, that someone criticized the right.

Hence the reason you got your panties in a bunch that people are donating to Move-on.

Kanye spoke from a place of real emotion, that's apparent to anyone watching AND he's smart enough to realize that by not sticking to the script, he's potentially hurting his own career.

Doing something that will hurt you is NOT self-serving, he just expressed what he felt, it may have been wrong, it may have been right - but that's all it was.

If all Kanye will be to America is just another rapper - than his words aren't going to impact their decision to give money.

Judging by the response on the boards, it may be the impetus that causes others to give MORE money.

Regardless, it's VERY hard to take you seriously at all in any sort of political discussion as your stance is to always ad hominem attack the left and then to defend the right no matter what the facts are.

I figured I'd point that out since we're speaking of clowns.

All I know is - our military can be anywhere in the world from the US within 18 hours if the shit hits the fan.

It shouldn't take 5 days to get to New Orleans, so criticizing the Govt. and/or feeling that maybe they don't care, isn't an all together illogical conclusion. It doesn't matter what sort of disaster was expected, the calvary can be mustered faster than in 120 hours.




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Our fucking roof didnt get fixed from that damn huricane until June sweetie, the damn huricane hit in fucking Sept! Point is, if the money isnt going directly to that fucking war, Bush really aint trying to give it to you. Black people in Florida got treated with that slow help too. Those white neighborhoods got cleaned up mighty fast but black churches still have boards over windows from Ivan and Frances

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We all know Expertise isn't even a real conservative so much as a toady and an apologist for the Republican party. There's no independence of thought, simply a pathological need to be the biggest possible synchophant.

as for kanye, the idea that this is self promotion is ridiculous. This is an era where 50 Cent and Eminem are the two biggest selling rappers and anything that reeks of political commentary is buried by the label or the radio. kanye is in for a world of shit from the mainstream media for daring to disrupt the commerce machine to exert his right as a citizen to speak about his government. how in the world is this going to help his soundscans in north carolina or iowa?

and as for disrupting a fundraiser, motherfucker, please. this is not an apolitical issue. it was clear by tuesday how bad this situation was going to be, and it took until friday for there to be a successful response. this is a massive, tragic logistical failure by the federal government, and bush has stacked the top posts with his people. i'm not even going to get into the fact that the Gulf Coast could have used the money, troops, and helicopters that we're currently squadering in Iraq.

the point is, how many people died or got sick or got the message that the United States does not, in fact, care about their suffering is those 72 hours? Kanye didn't say Bush hates minorities. he said that when Bush gets up in the morning, the last thing on his mind i black people. he's clearly demonstrated that. he didn't care. he was on vacation and couldn't be disturbed. his cabinet of ideologues clearly hadn't prepared for this scenario for a second even though it's been forecasted for how many years, showing that they, in fact, did not care enough about the City of New Orleans and its residents.

but I don't see this as primarily a failure of bush's ideology. what's becoming painfully obvious is that this Administration is inept. they cannot accomplish their policy aims because they are pathetic at managing logistics. they don't have enough weapons in iraq. they destablized two countries and the most dangerous region in the world because they let their ideology massively outstrip their planning. they pushed through a tax cut based on ideology with no idea that situations like this would occur and that we might need to finance relief efforts. and now they've let New Orleans descend into anarchy. bush should consider hiring people in the future with a couple fewer letters of recommendation from the heritage foundation but that actually know how to make the trains run on time. this didn't have to be political, but bush's extreme ideology has made everything political. his pursuit of his ideological goals has made him and his Administration blind to basic management issues

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he's in calgary, at an oil meeting. and condi was in new york until thursday, shopping at ferragamo's and going to broadway shows.

All of you in this thread sit here and claim I'm such a "toady" (whatever the hell that is) and I don't use independent or original thought. Well how original is it for Kanye to yell "George Bush doesn't care about black people."? Other celebs have been saying that and worse since he announced he was running for president. How orginal is it to have 500 posts on a discussion board to cosign what this kat says? Especially since most of the posters talked shit about Kanye up to this moment. Yeah; how original.

Kanye isn't going to be hurt by this no more than Jadakiss was when he claimed Bush was behind 9/11. In fact, afterwards Jadakiss turned around and created a remix to take advantage of the press he'd gotten from the orginial single. Kanye will do the same, as he'll comment on the fundraiser either as an additional track to sell with Late Reg, as a remix on a current single, or on his next album.

As far as the government's response, this is nothing new. You have to go through protocols and guidelines just like we always did. In fact, this same thing happened in South Florida with Hurricane Andrew in 91, when there was a slow response after that disaster. I don't like it, and I would have liked to see Guardsmen get into NO and had them stop the looting and save more people than what they did.

Therefore, collecting all of the Guardsmen or active servicemen isn't as simple as just telling them "Get ready; you're going into Louisiana" and packing them onto the bus or whatever and moving in. There are limitations placed on the military in regards to what they can do inside the country, and they have to follow protocol and chain of command.
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No.

Our Military folks in the US can be anywhere in the world, on the ground and ready to take on the mission at hand in 18 hours or less.

For our elite troops, that's their operational mandate.

The Damn Coast Guard can be in action faster than that as far as domestic emergency, and they're part of the DHS now, along with FEMA.

It didn't take five days for our troops to help after the Tsunami either.

Now if we can react to the Tsunami and 9/11 and Forest Fires in the Northwest (My own personal experience) in faster than 5 days, than they can do the same in New Orleans.

They should've been mobilized or put on standby as soon as the storm started moving accross the ocean towards New Orleans, just like I was when they thought forest fires MIGHT cause a problem.

It's called basic readiness.

They've done in your own state, get the troops ready and stage them so if the worse happens they're ready to be quickly deployed.

There is no excuse for this, if it takes five days there are only two answers:


-The System is broken

-Someone fucked up.


Even Bush has said that the response was unacceptable.

Stop being defensive just because you think the liberals are picking on your beloved conservatives.








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It's like, every time someone says something you disagree with, you yell "partisan! partisan! partisan!" If you can't come up with a logical argument, simply don't post until you come up with something better.

But hey; I'm the one with the ad hominem attacks, right.

The difference between the Red Cross and MoveOn.org is obvious to anyone that has a clue: MoveOn.org is a political organization designed to bring down a president. The Red Cross isn't political. They simply want to help people.

If this was on a MoveOn.org fundraiser, you know what? I probably wouldn't have said a word, considering the obvious leanings of the organization. Kanye's rant would have been expected; hell, it would probably been demanded. But the Red Cross isn't. And last night their donation calls had to be mixed in with complaints. After all; they didn't release a statement for nothing.

If MoveOn.org is creating a charity, that's fine...I don't care. You can give your money to them if you want. I'm not, but if that's how people want to do with their money, go ahead. However, you cannot deny the difference between The Red Cross and political organizations. Kanye should have chose a better venue in order to spread misinformation, and not at the expense of an organization that's actually trying to help.

Maybe Kanye did speak from conviction...okay. And I'm sure that there were other celebs involved that didn't say a word, yet agreed. However, they realized what the objective of the fundraiser was. It wasn't to make it a political discussion or rant. It was to help the Red Cross bring in more donations.

Kanye definitely won't suffer from this; he's in the news today, his sales will receive a boost, and hip hop fans are mostly leftist, which means they will agree with his views. A perfect case of opportunism from a guy that has a history of thinking about himself first.
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>It's like, every time someone says something you disagree
>with, you yell "partisan! partisan! partisan!" If you can't
>come up with a logical argument, simply don't post until you
>come up with something better.

I disagree with a LOT of people on these boards, yet only accuse you of being a partisan lacky without a single cogent argument to his name.

If I supposedly yell Partisan at everyone who disagrees with as opposed to presenting a logical argument.......

.........provide examples or STFU.

As it is - you didn't break down my argument and show how it is illogical.

Thus proving my point in the first place.




>But hey; I'm the one with the ad hominem attacks, right.
>
>The difference between the Red Cross and MoveOn.org is obvious
>to anyone that has a clue: MoveOn.org is a political
>organization designed to bring down a president. The Red
>Cross isn't political. They simply want to help people.

You just proved my point.........AGAIN.

The purpose of the Moveon.org action related to the banner on this page is to raise money for the Kitrina victims, nothing more, nothing less.

"Moveon.org is a political organization designed to bring down a president"

You just revealed your partisanship by acting as if Moven.org is automatically a pernicious organization due to wanting someone with a different political viewpoint in power.

The GOP is a political organizationd designed to crush the Democrats, numerous political organizations and individuals were involved in working to make sure Kerry didn't get elected, other democrats don't get elected AND were involved in trying to take Clinton down.

But that's cool - you don't have any problems with them.

The GOP has numerous people who work in the media, some claim to be journalists, others are just pundits and talking heads like Rush, Savage, Hannity, et al - these people are working to take the left as a political ideology.

In fact, in your imagination you imagine yourself moving towards that yourself with your little blog.

Why is that perfectly fine, why don't you EVER criticize those individuals and organizations, despite them having the SAME objective of Moveon.org.

Simple.

You agree with them.

Don't act as if you're just against moveon.org just because you find any group trying to take down a president as ignoble. The truth, you don't want to anyone criticizing or trying to take action to keep the people you agree with out of power.

Grow some balls and admit it, your actions are partisan by definition.

It's just that simple.

Your lack of credibility is due to your own inability to forge a logical argument, your blindness to basic logic and refusal to accept any facts that don't support conservatives.

Your actions are the definition of partisanship, look it up.

>If this was on a MoveOn.org fundraiser, you know what? I
>probably wouldn't have said a word, considering the obvious
>leanings of the organization. Kanye's rant would have been
>expected; hell, it would probably been demanded. But the Red
>Cross isn't. And last night their donation calls had to be
>mixed in with complaints. After all; they didn't release a
>statement for nothing.

Complaints from jack-asses like you who feel they don't have hear opinions they don't like, but it's perfectly fine for people on the left to hear opinons THEY don't like.

Like I said - anyone who decides not to help the victims because of what Kanye said, is a jack-ass, pure and simple.


>If MoveOn.org is creating a charity, that's fine...I don't
>care. You can give your money to them if you want. I'm not,
>but if that's how people want to do with their money, go
>ahead. However, you cannot deny the difference between The
>Red Cross and political organizations. Kanye should have
>chose a better venue in order to spread misinformation, and
>not at the expense of an organization that's actually trying
>to help.

No, you do care because you expressed anger about it earlier.

Again, the constant constridictions and hypocrisy.


Yes, there is a difference between the two organizations, but in this case, their only goal is to raise money for the victims, nothing more, nothing less.

But here you are bitching and moaning about a banner ad.

>Maybe Kanye did speak from conviction...okay. And I'm sure
>that there were other celebs involved that didn't say a word,
>yet agreed. However, they realized what the objective of the
>fundraiser was. It wasn't to make it a political discussion
>or rant. It was to help the Red Cross bring in more
>donations.

He said what he felt instead of reading a script and doing so will probably hurt him in the short to medium term (at least) - in the end, it's unlikely to bring in fewer donations.

Unless the nation is populated by jack-asses who make their decisions with respect to charitable donations based on what they think Kanye will say.


>Kanye definitely won't suffer from this; he's in the news
>today, his sales will receive a boost, and hip hop fans are
>mostly leftist, which means they will agree with his views. A
>perfect case of opportunism from a guy that has a history of
>thinking about himself first.
>

You just said that Hip-Hop fans are "mostly leftist" meaning that some will disagree and may not support him anymore.

Not to mention he could face a media backlash.

On the other hand, it did bring the event more publicity, so more donations could result.

Truth be told, there isn't any quantative evidence that proves it one way or another.








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I disagree that "every other celebrity" has been saying the same thing. The United States has a really bad habit of avoiding open dialogue about race and racial discrimination. Systematic racial discrimination is prevalent in our society, but since people are not in visible chains or getting lynched anymore, most people think everything has been fine since the Civil Rights Act of 1965. The truth is that people of color--Latinos, African-Americans, Blacks, Native Americans, Asian-Americans--face discrimination in every facet of our society. But people don't want to talk about it because it doesn't behoove the power structure to do so. And race and class--although they intersect--are distinct. It would be shortsighted to chalk up our government's flaccid response to this tragedy as having to do with class alone--"because they're poor". Those people were called refugees because they were mostly black. Inordinate media emphasis on looting and crime (which was likely attributable to a small percentage of the population there) had to do with the racial composition thereof. The recurring misallocation of funds away from fixing a levee system our government knew was doomed to failure, and the lack of steps to prepare for a disaster of this scale (predicted in earlier reports of the likeliest disasters to afflict the U.S.) has to do, again, with the racial composition of the area. So it is not insensitive, immature, unpatriotic, or selfish to say that "George Bush doesn't care about black people". The actions of the Bush administration before, during, and after this disaster indicate precisely that.

What's the matter? Kanye never responded to your love letters?

Fucking drama queen.

i don't know why u wanna say that kanye is misinformed when he is not, so just to provide evidence here's a link to the article and
picture

http://s21.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=26ARNQ11T59BO1PNWE4KI141V0

The media (the white media, i might add) is portraying the blacks as the "looters" and the white folks as the "finders". That's disgusting, bigoted, racist and shows the inherent stereotypes that and racial prejudice that white believe that blacks steal, murder, rape. etc. etc. I don't know who you are, but for you to disagree with facts is appalling, and who cares if Kanye is doin this for himself, the point of the matter is that he is pointing out subconscious feelings of white america towards the lives of poor black folk. If this was in beverly hills or some other middle to upper class white area, it would not have taken five days for that to happen, and if you can't realize that i would have to say that you are probably one of the most ignorant people on the face of this planet, regardles if you are black or white

BIG UPS to Michael Moore for his letter, i have more respect for him than kanye right now, just because he's a white dude

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That took guts. The fallout, if any (and there shouldn't be, beside the existing statements from NBC and the Red Cross), will be interesting.

I peeped the West Coast feed on MSNBC (not the 8pm one on NBC). They cut right before Kanye's "George Bush doesn't care about black people" and went right to Chris Tucker.

Regardless of how we may feel about his rap persona, let's all be prepared to fight for this dude's right to his opinion. Seriously.

... I'm serious yo... you know how LONG it's been since we've had any black person of any prominence REALLY speak his/her mind??

I'd throw Al Sharpton in there, but I mean, a black person who has the EARS of the street????

Coulda been Jordan, Tiger, Oprah, Denzel or any number of countless stars, but this nigga might have just started the ball rolling. It's up to the rest of those who have a voice to pick up that torch and stand next to Kanye...

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The guts he showed to do that, the way he was speaking you KNEW he was scared as hell but he aint give a damn in the end, and spoke up for those who need it. He did what damn near everyone is scared to do, especially those with so much to lose as popular celebs in a white media....props to the cat. Hats off to Kanye West, just breathtaking.

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...what black folk already feel. and where in the hell is Condolezza Rice and Colin Powell. are the mofo's missing in action. come on man this shit is so fuckin obvious that the govt don't give a fuck about that region. you can't agrue for the bush administration. man kanye scored major points with me on a span of two weeks. first he album, then he comment on mtv and now this. good shit.

that's dope as fuck. jesse jackson even threw his opinion in too.
i just gained a ton of respect for kanye. he knew that's some heavy shit to say but he still said it... he was fumbling at first but his last words spelled it all out perfectly.

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and his statements, as opposed to the rallying the we are doing.

That nigga put his career on the line, and i respect that more than any song any body done made from the comfort of a vocal booth.

and i'm still cracking up when i see the clip. He looked dead into the camera and said it like it was written in the script....lol.

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>and i'm still cracking up when i see the clip. He looked dead
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>script....lol.


He was saying everything like he was reading it off of the teleprompter. It worked because they did not catch it in time to cut it. This is what made it hilarious as well as poignant.

You could see from his body language that he thought he might be throwing his career away, and he STILL said what he needed to say. I will never say anything bad about him anymore.

like he was gonna cry man i almost lost it, i was like herrrrrrrre we go (c) slick rick

wow.

i hope hes in the news for a plat. album soon cuz "he" needs to be rubbed in everyones faces.

and that shit had me tearing up as well

That nigga was looking like "All right, Mr. Powers, just leave your body. Leave.....your.....body!"

Kanye ain't the only one sayin' the truth.

.

I apologize for all the shit i've talked about Kanye...
He redeemed himself in those few moments...
Biggest balls in show biz...
And i now love Kanye West...
no homo...
Viva Kanye!

I haven't scanned all the posts, but I sure hope those who were chastising Michael's letter earlier today aren't now up in here jumping up and down, professing their love for Kanye.

At least Expertise has been consistent with his views.
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where he basically did the same thing Kanye did...got booed and drowned out...vilified in America...front-page praised in Japan and elsewhere.

Someone's gotta say something... Kanye being in the place he was...probably just tossed his album sales, public appearances, all of that, thrown out the window with those words. That was wild.

cuz he was sooo put on the spot after that clip..

omg.....

you could see him processing it for a little bit.

That would've been so great if he would've been like, (in Smokey's voice): "Maaaan...I'm mad! Kanye is RIGHT!"

like he didnt even think to read it cuz he was still tryin to process
i dont blame dude
woulda been hilarious if he co-signed tho
he prolly gonna get clowned for that for life

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give me dat million dolla beat and let me show you what to do wit it/ who dat is?/ that's the illest rapper chopped and screwin' it/ couldn't snatch the game is what they told me so i'm provin' it (c) cham

here it is:

http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79

Just type that in and it will take you to the clip.

Good look on Kayne too but did you'll hear Bush when he was talking about "people in this part of the world"..............lol, what the fuck.

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aid would have been there before his ass formed a thought...

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i think we found our v.p.

its angry niggas on tv day.

It gon' look like him and Luda was just frolicking in the park.

I'm waiting to hear from David Banner, though.

by the way, my screenname's lame
http://www.last.fm/user/KennyFresh/

**ima show u how to get ya shine on**

give me dat million dolla beat and let me show you what to do wit it/ who dat is?/ that's the illest rapper chopped and screwin' it/ couldn't snatch the game is what they told me so i'm provin' it (c) cham

bill o'reilly just shit himself!

heres the video
http://zebrality.com/article.php?article_id=93

ps they obviously have no idea who kanye west as the article title says:
Actor Kanye West Ruins NBC Relief Show

by the way, my screenname's lame
http://www.last.fm/user/KennyFresh/

That took balls. You could tell he was nervous to say the shit, but it was the truth. My biggest problem is the comparisons to Florida last year. When that area got devastated by 3 Hurricane's Bush was down there FAST getting many photo ops. Aid was never even an issue, it just so happened that was a huge swing state and Bush's brother runs it. My sister claims Bush won the state the way he appeared to help out through the crisis.

NO has been shit on, just plain shit on, this is fucking America, we can't get these people aid? We can't organize buses for those without transportation? Bush has already fucked up, the picture of him looking out the plane window illustrates the issue.

Back to Kanye, you really think this was all about him? It seemed he had something to say, it was obviously fucking with him.

you know he'll be touting this thing from years to come. Instead of talking about the fact that he went to college he'll start making rhymes up about "the nigga who stood up to GWB."

Before people jump on my back, I wanna say that I'm very impressed and happy that he made that statement. You could tell from how his voice was cracking that it took a lot for him to do it. But Kanye is still Kanye...

That was stupid and he sounded as ignorant as he looks.

SO... the mayor and the prodominantly black leaders of NOLA don't like black people either because they aren't handing stuff out too?

And I'm sure Kanye would be just more than GLAD to go down there among "his people". Just imagine how much relief he could provide with one of luxury SUVs he'll be riding home in tonight.

*Decides it isn't worth it*

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oh, shit, George Jr's up in this piece...you been found the fuck out!! Kanye was fuckin' right...and I don't think I'll view Mike Myers the same again, lol, looked like he shit himself...

I can't believe people are pussy enough to need an alias to express their views on an already ANONYMOUS message board.

man the fuck up.

and they still MIA.

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he should have said GW does not care bout black,latino, poor, gay, people cause that what it seems like. Im from texas and did not vote for him FUCK BUSH. --------------------------------------------------------------------Dear summer please let my post go plat

I aint even black, but Ill support him for this shit

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you're good for calling out folk when you think what they say makes no sense....

so how is kanye saying something (true or not) about how bush feels about a race arrogant?

or anything else he said during that rant for that matter?

to commit what may be career suicide, is his belief that it isn't.

he called out vibe in a song, they put him back on the cover.

he thinks he cna keep doing it.

no one else truly believes they will eat tomorrow and everyday purely off of their talent no matter who they piss off.


I never said his words were arrogant. but a man who wasn't foolishly self confident, could never have done what he did.


why can TO go across the middle and not worry about the safety? cuz he's supremely talented and traind, but so are a lot of other guys, but he also has complete and total belief that he is the best wide reciever on the planet. same thing.



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that was just him being real, and i respect that.

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Peace

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I love all Hip Hop, fuck yo preference!

Raised by okayplayer, and mad proud of it! Thas me, you know!!!!

Gives me chills...
The way he nodded his head saying,
"That's Right, I do not fear."

Loving it...
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I love all Hip Hop, fuck yo preference!

Raised by okayplayer, and mad proud of it! Thas me, you know!!!!

I'm buying at least 2 copies of LR tomorrow, just because.

On GP and shit.

I LOVE YOU, KANYE WEST!

Kanye going off = hilarious

Kanye created his legend today... As long as he doesn't fuck it up by apologizing or by ripping up a picture of the pope on SNL, he'll be alright.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,7601050829,00.html

BTW: Saying "Bush doesn't care about Black people" doesn't = Getting sniped. Bush was probably laughing with Lott when he heard that shit... In total agreeance.

i got so much respect for this dude right now. and im glad he took off his stupid ass sunglasses for this. its about time

right before i took a nap.....i understand why he did what he did, i respect him for havin the balls to say it...BUT IT WAS THE WRONG TIME....it was about collecting money for people in need...i think alotta the celebs were pissed about THAT alone...still the funniest part was the cameeraman/producers groan when he made the bush comment...i laughed and went to bed...

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Vote for Kanye

taking orders.

bump "Vote for Pedro"...


Screw facing only leads to stress
so just inhale, exhale
get it off your chest (c) Eye Plus Eye

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But this is yall "moment" so go head n make merry.

*shakes head in disgust*

As an African living in the UK. All I can do is say GTFOOHWTB!

Chuckle why? You over an above somebody?

If you got something to say, say it or just stay schtum!

i say motherfuck you
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"as an african living in africa" as though that statement grants you some lofty pearch by which to judge us. As a matter of fact that statement makes you even less qualified to say anything given you don't know the day to day realities of what its like for black people here.

As a nigga living in America I say bitch shut the fuck up! I hope you can have your moment....which consists of ass kissing housenigga spear raising.

'The fuck outta here Kanye's a hero.

Soledad Obriean brought it straight real and joyner punked out when she asked him about Kanye's statements
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i think soledad o'brein has been really real all week.

tj was SO wack.

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Disney off, so of course he's gon' punk out about Kanye, even if he might personally agree.

Publicly, he'en gon' say shit.

>Soledad Obriean brought it straight real and joyner punked
>out when she asked him about Kanye's statements
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what did tom joyner say..or not say?

There's furor over Kanye's comments...yet I haven't heard anything about Bush's press conference after touring the devasation where he expresses concern for Senator Trent Lott's multimillion dollar mansion that's gone?!!? Poor Trent Lott! Like he doesn't have a place in Washington and probably somewhere else to go! Thousands of others don't.

My ire is off the meters right now.

Either he's a great actor, or you're hating if you think this was self serving... he put his own failings on this forth about how he also didn't care enough in the first place so you had a chance to put his comments in perspective, then he came out with what he felt and what are arguably some very true assertions. That's gotta take courage, there's nothing about that broadcast that indicated to me that he was sure of himself.

He came out with what he seems to honestly think, consequences be damned, obvious doubts in his mind pushed aside. I wish more people in the media could be this bold with what they really think.

the shit ya miss when you go drinking!

dammit!

I think we need to let them know that it wasn't.

No bullshit.

http://www.nbc.com/nbc/footer/Contact_Us.shtml

Your local affiliate and the corporate.

Let's get some emails going.

what does this do?? let them know it was the thoughts of the people?? and you think they're gonna do what with that info??

Money is one. Numbers is another. For NBC the numbers directly affect their money. Corporations listen to critisicm because they figure for every 1 person who says something, there are 100 people thinking the same thing. In my company (multi-billion dollar), we have the top 5 consumer complaints POSTED constantly.

Please don't think your voice means nothing. Think about it, if you had to give one person a penny it would mean nothing to you. But, if you had to give 100,000 people a penny you would feel it in your pockets. It's simple math, add your voice to the pot.

I for one have asked them not to edit what he said. Even if they do, they still know for their many news channels that there are people who don't believe he "ruined the telethon" which is a spin they might try to pull.

>Money is one. Numbers is another. For NBC the numbers
>directly affect their money. Corporations listen to critisicm
>because they figure for every 1 person who says something,
>there are 100 people thinking the same thing. In my company
>(multi-billion dollar), we have the top 5 consumer complaints
>POSTED constantly.
>
>Please don't think your voice means nothing. Think about it,
>if you had to give one person a penny it would mean nothing to
>you. But, if you had to give 100,000 people a penny you would
>feel it in your pockets. It's simple math, add your voice to
>the pot.
>
>I for one have asked them not to edit what he said. Even if
>they do, they still know for their many news channels that
>there are people who don't believe he "ruined the telethon"
>which is a spin they might try to pull.


i don't think my voice means nothing, but this plan doesn't really have a point....what do expect NBC to do with the info that some of it's viewers support Ye?? they gonna say "the people agree with West." on the air?? no....they gonna stimulate dialogue about black folks believin bush don't like em?? no....they may do a survey later showin that bush's approval rating is down wit blacks or americans in general, but who doesn't now that?? sure, they'll know you support ye, many of them already know that alotta people agree, but what do you think they'll do witht htat info other than "post" a memo in the offices???

nm

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/85A3FD8F-F6C6-4A13-9FE1-4BF54FD3CEF4.htm

http://blogs.icerocket.com/search?q=kanye+west

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West

Word, same here.

PeAcE

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"You motherfucker! **I** wanted to say that shit on national TV! You coulda waited a month!"

Please, McGruder will probably scrap his comics that were planned for this week to make sure he talks about what Kanye said!

Come to think about it, you are right. McGruder would probably would have been the first to say that ish publically.

i'm giving money i hope everyone else is doing the same. Glad Kanye spoke up

TELL 'EM WHY Y'ALL ARE MAD, NIGGAS!!!!!!!!

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/audio/national/NAGIN_AUDIO.mp3

why won't they help him??

http://captainkanyewest.ytmnd.com/

Yall have skills.

I think Kanye has balls. Some might critisize him but I think he is one of the true consciouss rappers. Here in Europe we love him.

of his shit.

i might buy me a fucking pink polo, too.

THAT was gangster. he took his time in the spotlight and made it plain.


peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

Na'mean. Will always by his shit.

before all this happened, BET scheduled him to appear on they fundraiser on the 9th. yall think they'll pull him from the lineup?

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Kanye West Scheduled to Speak at Another Fundraiser

(JND) - After his controversial comments on NBC's Hurricane Relief program, Kanye West is scheduled to appear at another Hurricane Katrina Telethon September 9 on Black Entertainment Television (BET). However, it should be noted that West was scheduled prior to his tirade on September 2.

'S.O.S (Saving Ourselves): The Bet Relief Telethon' is set to feature West, as well as Wynton Marsalis, Master P, David Banner, Juvenile, Baby and Lil Wayne (Cash Money) along with Russell and Kimora Lee Simmons, Alicia Keys, Diddy, Jay Z, Island Def Jam Music Group Chairman Antonio "L.A." Reid Common, Usher, Nick Cannon, Omarion, Pharrell Williams, Ciara, Ludacris, Keyshia Cole, Avant, Gerald Levert, Lyfe, Twista, Stevie Wonder, Brandy, Wyclef, Erykah Badu, Al and Star Jones Reynolds, Chris Rock and more.

It is unknown if West will still appear in the scheduled event.

THE OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE:

It will be a night like no other to help victims cope with a disaster like no other. BET will bring together stars of music and entertainment in alliance with the National Urban League, American Red Cross, Hip-Hop Summit Action Network, Essence Communications and major recording labels for a primetime telethon to raise much needed aid for the victims of Hurricane Katrina. The telethon is set for Friday, September 9 on BET, starting with a special benefit episode of 106 & PARK: BET'S TOP 10 LIVE at 6 p.m. ET*, followed by the telethon from 7:30 -- 10 p.m. ET* (*telethon is tape-delayed to the West Coast; toll-free pledge phone lines will be open).

The telethon will feature a roster of superstar artists, many with ties to the affected areas, including Wynton Marsalis, Master P, David Banner, Juvenile, Baby and Lil Wayne (Cash Money) along with Russell and Kimora Lee Simmons, Alicia Keys, Diddy, Jay Z, Kanye West, Island Def Jam Music Group Chairman Antonio "L.A." Reid Common, Usher, Nick Cannon, Omarion, Pharrell Williams, Ciara, Ludacris, Keyshia Cole, Avant, Gerald Levert, Lyfe, Twista, Stevie Wonder, Brandy, Wyclef, Erykah Badu, Al and Star Jones Reynolds, Chris Rock and more. Celebrity participants will give of their time and resources
in an inspiring effort to address tremendous devastation in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and elsewhere. Telethon viewers can call designated toll-free phone numbers to make financial pledges to the Red Cross relief efforts.

Ye was nervous, but mike myers was like oh man this ni**a, i swear he fronze the moment he heard bush.

That ish was gangster.

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http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79

GO KANYE!

nm

good promotional work for kanye

I definately commend Kanye on having the rawness to speak from heart in a situation like that, especially with the possible consequences. The only thing is that it may have drawn attention away from the main objective which was to get money to those who needed help.

The thing about that is: how many times would he get that type of platform to voice his views and what he believes to be the views of the masses to such a wide audience? On top of that it was an audience that was probably 30% comprised of peoeple who don't watch any show or program that Kanye would be on (Oprah and isht like that excluded).

Point bein' it was probably the only opportunity he would ever have to say something like that where it would spread so rampantly. But was it worth drawing attention away from the main thing which is for the people to help these black victims that Bush "doesn't care about"? (not a cynical statement, I'm seriously wondering about that)

If he is saying what everyone said before, and what everyone knows, and what everyone can see from the evidence put in front of us (as a poster said, 'do you think he would let white people be stranded on top of a building for 5 days?'), then why is this such a big great thing that he said it?

Because he did it when a whole lot of people were watching?

beside the fact that it would be a long preacher's sermon, it would also be boring, because he's old. Kanye's a "rebel" who says what he feels, and a lot of people, love that, especially on here. They believe that he's somehow being "subversive" by saying what he wants and always appearing on the edge of "going off" on someone, and showing his charisma as he does it.

Last night was the first time in a long time where I actually gave him props for doing something that was genuinely "off the cuff," as opposed to the usual "I'm going to say something 'emotional' and 'edgy' and 'from the soul' in order to sell records."

Kanye wasn't trying to sell any records last night.
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it'd still mean a lot if michael eric dyson said it because of the venue in which it wld have been said (on live, national tv, uncensored, when the focus should be 'kum bah yah' instead of on telling the ugly truth).

it's a big deal because kanye's an entertainer. actually, scratch that--it's a big deal because of the risks he runs as an entertainer, doing what he did.

but it's also a big deal because kanye's an entertainer and because of what that means in terms of what he's got leeway to say.

entertainers, if they want to keep their endorsements, fan bases, etc, have to watch what they say publically when it comes to political matters, especially now. as such, its VERY rare that an entertainer would risk so much to say something so controversial, especially when it's a truth the the lot of america doesn't want to face. white folk don't wanna face the fact that race is working here, that their president may not have done all he could have when he should have done it.

so, if ANYBODY would have gotten on stage and said exactly that, it would be a huge deal. but the fact that perhaps, some cld argue, entertainers are even under more pressure to keep their mouths shut on major issues like this, is what makes it more remarkable. he put a LOT on the line to say what sincerely needed to be said.

and because of this fact, maybe kanye saying it does create more of a stir than m.e.d. saying it. but it STILL would have been a big thing if michael eric dyson said it. and plus, more niggas know kanye than m.e.d., which is another reason ppl are in such a stir. kanye's got more to lose than m.e.d., in my opinion, who has more leeway as an 'academic intellectual' to say things like this.

doing what kanye did could very likely mean career suicide, though i don't see it happening with him. but do you remember the dixie chicks? remember the rage, the protest, and eventual apology? they didn't wanna lose that money. kanye doesn't seem to be worried about there here, and if that's true, it shows that dude got some blinding courage.

that's why it's a big deal.

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Makes sense.

I guess entertainers want to keep all fans, and there is that risk that all the republican fans of Kanye could immediately stop, since he is talking about their fearless leader like that.

And in an age where money is everything, and to be really commercial is the best thing to shoot for, the voluntarily aim to lose like a good portion of your fanbase is admirable.

Thanks for the explanation. :)

Entertainers are the people in his country that criticize the president the most, and often the most harshly. So you can't say he was endangering his career by saying that shit. If anything, it'll probably help him land a major movie role. Celebrities say this kind of stuff all the time, but millions of people see their movies and buy their albums. And the Dixie Chicks had all that shit happen because they are country music artists, and most country music fans are Republican. People know that Kanye doesn't like Bush when they buy his records, and most of them feel the same way. Personally, I consider myself politically conservative, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna stop bumping LR just because I don't agree with something he says.

and extreme ones like the war

the last thing the government or the larger populace of 'patriotic' people (read: the white republican/conservative middle class) wants is people dissenting. they'd rather people ignore the truth and put aside their personal politics until the sitation is resolved; the last thing it/they want is to be openly criticized, especially when they're doing a bad job of handling the situation.

i know that artists and entertainers are quick to criticize the government.

but when they do so at such critical times--in times of war and national disaster--it becomes a problem. if the dixie chicks had chosen any other time to say what they said about the president, i guarantee the backlash wldn't have been so swift.

kanye has ALWAYS said bad stuff abt the administration, but last night's comment was the dangerous one because he said it when the popular consensus is support rather than go against the grain.

and he did it so publically.

that's what makes it unique.

don't express what the common man
feels in such a raw, undiluted fashion.

the last cat who came like this was
farrakahn. and that got him on the
cover of time.

kanye got on the cover and THEn
went off.

contrast how kanye came, with how
many of the 'black leaders' that
made the rounds spoke. besides
nagin, most equivocated, embellished,
or smoothed out their sentiments,
with their eyes fixed on their
bottom lines and careers.

mad respect to kanye...and to the media,
stop cutting out what people have to say.
what ever happened to free speech?!?!?
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all this stuff is lining up for a reason.
God moves...thanks common.

Im sure its already been posted a few times, but if you misesed it here it is...

The video - http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1604601/
The article - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html

Damn, where's my Jet magazine at?!?!

for real

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thats gangsta

They caught on to that quick.
Fuck them

n/m

by the powers that be, but fuck NBC and Bush et al.

much respect to Kanye. I can't remember hearing more realness on TV.


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"...and even then, i'd be faking it." -- me, to the same girl.

this needs to be archived. it's too damn big...draggin' the server down, young!

I just watched a rebroadcast here in the West Coast on CNBC and they had edited out Kanye's comments. That's some bullshit. I'm glad there are several links to it though. Here's one:

http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79

i cant seeshit

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George Bush Doesn't care about black people - Kanye West

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I didn't know what else to post...

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1650403

posted on Fark.com predominately white message board

there was only like 2 post on there of folks wit good sense imo and the trading card of the dude standing in the water... this does not make me happy.

It doesnt shock me anymore that White America is that naive about race.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-critic4sep04,0,6609184.story?coll=la-home-headlines

The Show Didn’t Benefit by Censors
By Robert Hilburn
As we enter the celebrity telethon phase of the Katrina tragedy, NBC's "A Concert for Hurricane Relief" stands as a blueprint for its own kind of institutional failure.

By censoring Grammy-winning rapper Kanye West's remarks critical of President Bush during its West Coast feed of the program Friday night, the network violated the most moving and essential moment in an otherwise sterile, self-serving corporate broadcast.

"It would be most unfortunate," the network said in a statement defending its action, "if the efforts of the artists who participated tonight and the generosity of millions of Americans who are helping those in need are overshadowed by one person's opinion."

Excuse me, but whose tragedy is this: NBC's or America's?

NBC may have been nervous about West's comments, including the notion that America and its president are unresponsive to the needs of the poor. But you can be sure those remarks would have been cheered more than anything else in the program by the black parents and children still trapped in the New Orleans Convention Center and the Superdome if they had been able to hear them.

The line NBC stopped us from hearing on the West Coast: "George Bush doesn't care about black people."

The puzzling thing is why NBC axed that, but allowed another provocation, potentially more disturbing, to stay in: "We already realized a lot of the people that could help are at war right now, fighting another way, and they've given them permission to go down and shoot us."

West was apparently referring to the National Guard troops who were sent to New Orleans to help the flood victims and stop the looting.

The show was aired live on the East Coast, where West's full comments were heard.

There was a several-second tape delay, but the person in charge "was instructed to listen for a curse word and didn't realize had gone off script," NBC spokeswoman Rebecca Marks told Associated Press.

Whether we agree or disagree with West's impassioned riff on media and government racism, the network's relentless self-promotion was by far the more offensive part of the broadcast.

It started with a welcome from Bob Wright, the chief executive of NBC Universal, which was followed by thoughts from another chief executive, Capital One's Richard D. Fairbank.

Why Fairbank?

Capital One "underwrote" the telethon, which makes you immediately ask: Was his appearance part of the underwriting deal? The fact that the question comes up at all shows you how wrong that move was.

Then we had Matt Lauer, perhaps the most famous male face of NBC east of Jay Leno, host the program, and "feel-good" scenes of NBC anchor Brian Williams walking the streets with New Orleans musician Harry Connick Jr.

Surely Connick, also known for his appearances on NBC's "Will & Grace," knew his way around without Williams' help.

The censorship of West only added to the insult.

West, a black artist who is arguably the dominant creative force in mainstream popular music right now, isn't one of the thug-life rappers who might use a moment on a telethon for shock or exploitation purposes.

The most respected newcomer in rap, he has refocused interest on socially conscious themes, as did Curtis Mayfield and Stevie Wonder in R&B decades ago. There's even a spiritual undercurrent in his biggest hit, "Jesus Walks."

His provocative on-air comments come as his new album, "Late Registration," is expected to enter the national sales chart at No. 1 this week.

Because he is widely seen by critics and industry tastemakers as an influential spokesman for the American black experience, you could feel the strain of his attempt to fulfill that role — to step beyond the generic comments of other celebrities Friday to reflect on the horror being experienced by the flood victims.

You could disagree with his views, but you couldn't deny his passion.

"I hate the way they portray us in the media," West began his remarks during the hourlong program, on which he was one of several celebrities, including Hilary Swank and Leonardo DiCaprio, who spoke between musical numbers. "If you see a black family, it says they're looting. See a white family, it says they're looking for food."

West, 28, who attended Chicago State University before entering the music business, seemed to be talking extemporaneously, so he might have chosen his words differently if he'd had time to write them down.

But maybe not.

There's the possibility of more unscripted passion breaking through this week as NBC and the other networks, along with PBS, join forces Friday for another special. BET will air a separate benefit the same night. And the MTV networks will present a special Saturday.

In planning these events, the executives should look at tapes of "America: A Tribute to Heroes," the two-hour special that was carried by all the major television networks and dozens of cable channels shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

The focus that night was entirely on the music: no commercials, no audience, not even introductions as the singers, including Bruce Springsteen and Neil Young, took their turns onstage. It was a night totally without showbiz ego.

The worst example of telethon-type coverage recently was MTV's commercial-packed coverage of the Live 8 concerts in July, in which there was so little respect for the music that cameras frequently cut away from key performances for inane MTV chatter. On Friday NBC, at least, limited the commercials to one: for NBC.

the whole day on CNN all they showed and quoted was "george bush doesnt care about black people." but nothing else.

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after Kanye delivers the money shot... you can hear people saying "Oh MY GOD"

"I Don't Dislike Jesus I Just Hate His Fan Club"(c) The Black Guy with the Che Shirt


how come everyone else is slaying dragons and rescuing damsels while i'm here on some domestic shit? i feel like i'm playing 'd&d: the sedentary mythos' right now. lol-

peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

peace & blessings,

x.

sigless for the summer, y'all.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/cst-ftr-kanye05.html#

A flood of words
BY JIM DEROGATIS POP MUSIC CRITIC

Excerpt:

...But with his comments on Friday, West emerged as its new political firebrand, with a larger audience and more access to the mainstream than any rapper since Public Enemy's Chuck D, who declared in the late '80s that rap music "is the black CNN."

Like Chuck D, West grew up in a middle-class family that did not turn its back on the harsh realities of life in the ghetto but viewed political action and education as the paths to reform. His mother, Donda West, recently retired as chairwoman of the English Department at Chicago State University. His father, Ray West, is a former Black Panther active in the South Shore neighborhood, now serving as a Christian marriage counselor.

Unlike Public Enemy, which was famously criticized for embracing some of the anti-Semitic views of the Nation of Islam, West's beliefs reflect those of millions of mainstream Americans strong on family values, the merits of hard work and Christian teachings. Indeed, the message of "Jesus Walks," the phenomenal hit from his 2004 album "The College Dropout," is that anything is possible with the help of Christ, a theme that allies him with many of Bush's core supporters.

But Friday, West's statements were much closer to those being made by critics of the Bush administration from across the racial and political spectra. And while he is being criticized by many on the right -- and will no doubt pay a price with some lost album sales and less radio play in more conservative markets -- he did Americans a service by putting the issue on the table for national debate.

Perhaps the most striking evidence of this came on Sunday during CNN's "Late Edition" when host Wolf Blitzer quoted West when asking Mississippi Congressman Bennie Thompson whether the response to Hurricane Katrina has been racist. Thompson, a Democrat, said the government had failed and "someone has to be held accountable." He cited the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Department of Homeland Security.

The most revealing part of the exchange, however, was the fact that Thompson mistook the comments from West as a statement from Princeton University professor, theologian, author and activist Dr. Cornel West. In one fell swoop, the rapper and college dropout has earned a place in the front ranks of this country's best-known and most respected African-American activists.

Hegemony or Survival