Go back to previous topic
Forum nameGeneral Discussion Archives
Topic subjectyou say it's 'very clear' yet you can't even say what it is.
Topic URLhttp://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=18&topic_id=208012&mesg_id=208529
208529, you say it's 'very clear' yet you can't even say what it is.
Posted by Vex_id, Thu Jun-18-15 11:38 AM
So, there's really no other rational explanation other than....

you mad, doggie?

>you are clearly dismissive of the social, cultural and
>historical context that makes up the black identity,
>distilling it down to a notion of a 'fluid' identity
>i.e being black is only a state of mind that is
>divorced from the social and political reality of what it
>means to be black in this country

Never *once* did I say that. Projecting on 1,000, much?
Show me where I said that (you can't). What i did say is that
race (alike gender) - is a social construct that only has meaning
when we assign meaning to it. Transgender/transrace theories
identify and acknowledge that fluidity is inherent in these systems
of identification - but that doesn't mean that "being black is only
a state of mind" nor does it mean that it's "divorced from the political reality
of what it means to be black." That's silly and anyone making that claim
doesn't understand the reality of how race actually has functioned in society, outside
of theoretical discussions.

newsflash: It's possible to acknowledge transrace theory of fluidity *and* understand the
the political realities attached to black identity in America. But nuance has never been a strong suit on OKP.

>this is different from those in this post here who's agenda is
>mainly to discredit the transgender experience
>and this difference is what blkprince alludes to
>so i still ask, what is *your* agenda?

That's another hilarious attempt by Goldmind and others in here - trying to categorize everybody into one neat box who have a differing opinion on the matter. According to your prescription, MHP, Jelani Cobb, and a myriad of other black academics are either "trying to back transgender into a corner" or "do not understand the political realities of blackness."

No. They understand the realities in abundance, they simply have a more nuanced perspective on race and aren't afraid to discuss it from multiple angles.


-->