>i think both are problematic bc nobody seems capable of
>letting the divisions go...

The divisions make sense of the world for some people - and in their minds - they think that being 'male' loses meaning when a woman can simply choose to become male.

But is that person correct? I'd say no, they are trying to project their own experience of what it means to be 'male' as what the consensus opinion should be on what's male/masculine < always a recipe for disaster because of how wholly distinctive and individualistic each of us are.

>i'm ok with the further deterioration (shit, im all for it) of
>gender roles...and possibly race related cultural traits as
>well but I think there are societal impacts that should be
>thought out with less #TEAMConservative and #TEAMProgressive
>and more balance, pragmatic, and a big-picture rather than an
>individualist and emotional ideas about how identity should be
>treated and it's purpose in our society in general

Agreed - and it wasn't the best way to phrase the debate (as being conservatism versus progressivism) as that's a duality polarization in itself. However, I do find it interesting when progressives apply wholly different philosophical processes when embracing transgendered rights on one-hand, and flatly rejecting transracial theory on the other.

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