196911, RE: but when it comes to two drunk college students... Posted by SoWhat, Mon Sep-22-14 05:00 PM
>what danger is presented to the community when two people have >pissy drunk sex, then one says "rape"?
the danger is that there could be a rapist out there preying on drunk college students. he may pose as a fellow drunk person himself. or he may be a date rapist - he'll have a few drinks and get the victim drunk and then have his way w/them. the danger is that a rapist is preying on vulnerable ppl.
>>so far we (the ppl) have decided >>it's more important to us to protect the community from the >>potential danger posed by the alleged rapist than to protect >>the accused from the negative consequence of a false >>allegation. > >Which all but amounts to "guilty until proven innocent". The >presumption that an alleged rapist presents a danger to the >community presumes that he/she indeed committed the offense >and is, therefore, a threat.
see also: serial killers who have not been convicted at trial.
it's not guilty until proven innocent but i understand that feeling. i explained earlier why this happens and that there is recourse for the falsely-accused.
>>and that's why police don't investigate under >>seal and media is allowed and sometimes encouraged to put >the >>accused's name out there. as a trade-off we allow the >>falsely-accused to sue the false accuser in civil court and >>our prosecutors to go after the false accuser in criminal >>court. > >How often does this really happen though? It's only been >recently that we've seen even a handful of false accusers >indicted.
i just saw it happen last week.
>Personally, that I could sue for damages wouldn't be enough to >offset the damage done to my reputation were I on the >receiving end of such an allegation.
i'm sure.
>In 2014 (and years past), the accused has his/her name and >face plastered on every conceivable media source and branded >as an "alleged RAPIST". Years after exhonoration, the accused >name still carries "RAPIST" behind it and since we're in an >age where it's common for HR folks to do their googles on you >when you apply for a job that will always pop up.
yeah, that happens.
>Personally, I'd extend this to other crimes as well. As long >as the accused has not been convicted, their name shouldn't >show up anywhere. Too many people that have been found not >guilty of a crime have a hard time shaking the media circus >surrounding their lives.
great.
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