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196911, RE: but when it comes to two drunk college students...
Posted by SoWhat, Mon Sep-22-14 05:00 PM
>what danger is presented to the community when two people have
>pissy drunk sex, then one says "rape"?

the danger is that there could be a rapist out there preying on drunk college students. he may pose as a fellow drunk person himself. or he may be a date rapist - he'll have a few drinks and get the victim drunk and then have his way w/them. the danger is that a rapist is preying on vulnerable ppl.

>>so far we (the ppl) have decided
>>it's more important to us to protect the community from the
>>potential danger posed by the alleged rapist than to protect
>>the accused from the negative consequence of a false
>>allegation.
>
>Which all but amounts to "guilty until proven innocent". The
>presumption that an alleged rapist presents a danger to the
>community presumes that he/she indeed committed the offense
>and is, therefore, a threat.

see also: serial killers who have not been convicted at trial.

it's not guilty until proven innocent but i understand that feeling. i explained earlier why this happens and that there is recourse for the falsely-accused.

>>and that's why police don't investigate under
>>seal and media is allowed and sometimes encouraged to put
>the
>>accused's name out there. as a trade-off we allow the
>>falsely-accused to sue the false accuser in civil court and
>>our prosecutors to go after the false accuser in criminal
>>court.
>
>How often does this really happen though? It's only been
>recently that we've seen even a handful of false accusers
>indicted.

i just saw it happen last week.

>Personally, that I could sue for damages wouldn't be enough to
>offset the damage done to my reputation were I on the
>receiving end of such an allegation.

i'm sure.

>In 2014 (and years past), the accused has his/her name and
>face plastered on every conceivable media source and branded
>as an "alleged RAPIST". Years after exhonoration, the accused
>name still carries "RAPIST" behind it and since we're in an
>age where it's common for HR folks to do their googles on you
>when you apply for a job that will always pop up.

yeah, that happens.

>Personally, I'd extend this to other crimes as well. As long
>as the accused has not been convicted, their name shouldn't
>show up anywhere. Too many people that have been found not
>guilty of a crime have a hard time shaking the media circus
>surrounding their lives.

great.