http://twitter.com/AP/statuses/618167847961935872

"BREAKING: Documents: Cosby admitted in 2005 to getting Quaaludes to give to women he sought sex with."

let he among us who has not obtained barbituates to give to a woman he was going to bang throw the first stone

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BILL_COSBY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-07-06-17-21-35

(update -- this article has been heavily revised since the first draft, which is copied here, was posted -- you should click the link)

PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Bill Cosby testified in 2005 that he got Quaaludes with the intent of giving them to young women he wanted to have sex with, and he admitted giving the sedative to at least one woman and "other people," according to documents obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

The AP had gone to court to compel the release of the documents; Cosby's lawyers had objected on the grounds that it would embarrass their client.

The 77-year-old comedian was testifying under oath in a lawsuit filed by a former Temple University employee. He testified he gave her three half-pills of Benadryl.

Cosby settled that sexual-abuse lawsuit for undisclosed terms in 2006. His lawyers in the Philadelphia case did not immediately return phone calls Monday.

Cosby has been accused by more than two dozen women of sexual misconduct, including allegations by many that he drugged and raped them in incidents dating back more than four decades. Cosby, 77, has never been criminally charged, and most of the accusations are barred by statutes of limitations.

Cosby resigned in December from the board of trustees at Temple, where he was the popular face of the Philadelphia school in advertisements, fundraising campaigns and commencement speeches.


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you know how many women i've gotten weed or alcohol for, who i sought to have sex with? you can procure drugs for someone. and just cause you "get" them doesn't mean you give them to them without their knowledge or consent.

i think he did that shit tho. this just isn't really as incriminating as it sounds.
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.

i'll stand in this line...

but a. you probably weren't getting them DEM LUUDES tho (which really might not be so weird, depending on the timeframe).

also b. afaik, dozens of them have not surfaced accusing you of drugging and raping them

which is what separates the situations


it's just interesting because it's probably the part that he can't at all deny, because there are people who aren't involved in the accusations that already know he did at least that.

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We are equating the date rape drug with alcohol and weed now?

Is this a troll post?

liquor, weed, etc. with their consent versus giving it to someone without their consent...namely one is a crime and the other is not.


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"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson


"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're

Yo my dude...Take that Troll back to the bridge...

but there are too many of the same accusations and I while I could believe maybe 1, 2 or 3 women are shitty enough to lie (but for what reason? they aren't asking for money) I cant believe 24 women are lying

some of them were probably consensual and maybe not okay with being drugged after the fact, but overall this was his *thing*

I dunno..........
I always think some shit went down...hell....that was in the day of Studio54....shit SUPPPOSEDA go down then....and he wasn't the ONLY one

I just don't think it was ALLLL the women who they said it was....

but then again......

I just don't know......

>you know how many women i've gotten weed or alcohol for, who

Yes. But you're getting them for the both of you right? You're drinking/smoking and hooking her up, not looking just to ply her.

>i sought to have sex with? you can procure drugs for someone.
>and just cause you "get" them doesn't mean you give them to
>them without their knowledge or consent.

How about using rohypnol as the drug example instead? Would the person still get a free pass then? Because we're talking about a drug that's billed partially as a sleeping pill and sedative.

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"Romans 10 : 9 says, "If you declare
with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that
God raised him from the dead,
you will be saved."

I'm a little sad I missed out

>I'm a little sad I missed out

he needs to just disappear.

of Wall Street in the Quaaludes scene. How can you really enjoy that?

Whatever happened to a good old fashioned mistress for these rich guys?

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No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. (c) HL Mencken or some other motherfucker.

an amount to have them like Leo if he was to then rape them. I mean the white guys that told me they took ludes said they would walk around the basement until they felt drunk and they knees got wobbly.

These women though, are saying that they blacked out and had no idea what was happening to them. From Cos' point of view, at that point they would have to have slurred speech and droopy eyes. In my mind, they'd have to be acting strange and un-sexy. But then dude smashed. That's crazy to me.

he did not admit giving them to women who were accusing him of rape

that said, if that's what he likes, one can see the connection

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i hear ludes are to loosen the butthole, so i hear i hear. from a friend i heard.

gonna be pretty hard to cop pleas for his azz now...

>gonna be pretty hard to cop pleas for his azz now...

Let alone the victims in this story. They're not ready to see the truth about Cosby, because then they'd have to confront why they found it so easy to believe him and doubt all those women.

Whoopi is NOT having it, though. She's still giving him a pass.

I mean, his career is indelibly stained from it. He'll never, under any circumstances be America's Dad again. Most didn't need further proof to believe his guilt. Those who don't believe he did, probably never will. So, I'm over this story unless something is happening in court with it. At this point it's just keeping the story going. I'm not sure it's even helpful to the victims at this point. All the damage that can happen, has pretty much already happened, no?

The more evidence that comes out about it, the worse he looks. And honestly...who the fuck cares if a rapist is further embarassed? Fuck this guy.

I'm not defending him, but what more can happen to him. He's already been shunned. He's already the punchline. He'll never have his place of prominence. The only thing more that could happen would be if he was charged. Since we all know that isn't gonna happen, what does it solve? How does it help anyone? If we're gonna go in about rape culture, maybe, but I'm not really interested in the particulars of this case anymore. It's beating a dead horse.

At least not without looking like outright deniers. It's now absolute fact that he's been lying about this, all while knowing what he admitted to in 2005.

Before this came out you could defend him by just saying "he just settled because he didn't want to go through with the case, all the women are making it up" but that is completely gone now.

More importantly, there are tons of people who acted indifferent to the situation. The people who were quick to forget about the allegations after he settled until Hanibal Burress brought it up again.

(And please don't come with a TOKPR saying that none of the current outrage had to do with Burress because everyone was aware of the allegations. A good chunk of people straight up FORGOT about it because they viewed Cos as the perfect dad, until Burress brought it up.)

Unless the women themselves are seeking more attention to it, I'd rather the conversation shift to the cultural implications, instead of being focused on him specifically. He's a creep. He's a rapist. We get it. Now, what can we apply towards society for the greater good? It just seems a lot of this is less about being concerned about the victims and more about satisfying the ego of those who said, "I told you he did it."

So, what now? Are we gonna focus on removing statute of limitations? Are we going to focus on educating people on rape and sensitivity to rape survivors. I'm all for talking about that. I'm just over Bill Cosby.

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Did Cos drug you?

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It's not about the victims or about bringing awareness to rape culture. It's just petty cats gloating over something no one should find satisfaction in. And for the record, I'm not even defending Cosby. I just said the conversations should move beyond him until he can have some real consequences.

think about that.

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way too many times on this. You're coming sideways at me and I'm not even defending the dude.

you said you wanted to leave. I agreed. If you've changed your mind, that has less than nothing to do with me.



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This can help you.

this is apparently what you want.

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ago.

did that....

there was no way to cover it up...

Where's the reverend at?

>Where's the reverend at?

Even Jill Scott goofbutt came out and said she was wrong.

without their knowledge.

that's like buying weed and planning on smoking with a young lady.

right?

plus the other ladies said they were taking it willingly.

rigiht?

The message that got conveyed over the last 36 hours is that He Admitted Under Oath (10 Years Ago) That He Gave Drugs To Women He Wanted To Have Sex With. With the defections of some of his biggest supporters, nitty-gritty details won't change the narrative.

I think the full death-blow will be when Phylicia Rashad speaks out.

Just like this...
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he admitted this 10 years ago. this isn't new information. he said he, "got them drugs." which wouldn't stand up on a tennis court, let alone a court of law. nothing has changed from thins "groundbreaking" admission.

and with race relations where they are in the country right now, i'm so surprised everyone jumped and took the bait on this. its like as soon as we get close to unifying and making progress, we get distracted. and yes...i think Cosby deserves to go to jail. but to chomp like sharks, at this seaweed bait deserved for minnows, troubles me.
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.

And no, I don't think it's a conspiracy. The AP, or whichever news organization, has probably been trying to get this info since the Hannibal Burress stage of this story.

A lot of head shaking, a lot of "I will not discuss this", but never outright denying it as to not perjure himself...because he actually admitted the whole drug thing.

It's very interesting.

Also, he's obviously a rapist and a scumbag.

you could've said this same "side eye RACE RELATIONS DISTRACTION" shit at any time in the last year. or decade.

or lifetime.

it's not based on any logic.

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AP likely has been trying to get at this sealed deposition transcript at least since the original story broke last year after Hannibal Burress spoke out about the alleged rapes. it can take several months to get this kind of info...if it's ever gotten.

"Cosby admitted in 2005 to getting Quaaludes to give to women he sought sex with."

if you thought he was guilty from the jump like i did, of course he sought drugs to give the women. i mean that was his M.O., right? drugging women and having sex with them. from a legal point of view this isn't an admission of giving anyone drugs, but getting them drug. getting and giving have different implications. it all sounds like semantics, but people have gotten off for less, which is why i don't see this as productive. its damaging, but if he wasn't already damaged to you then i don't know what to tell you.

and i read somewhere that we're acting like this is the nail in the coffin, when 40+ women coming forward weren't already nails in the coffin. i give their accounts more weight than his obvious admission of "getting Quaaludes to give to women he sought sex with."
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.

outside things that seem to not exist.


and constantly bringing up whether or not this was the smoking gun, so you can say it's not the smoking gun, even though when I posted it, it didn't say shit about HERE'S THE SMOKING GUN

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there's a general feeling of....we got him! going around, like he's just now guilty. or like this is more incriminating than anything we've ever heard before. and to me this is common sense. of course he was getting them drugs.
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.

you talk about a general feeling. point 'em out.

talk about what they are specifically saying.



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and maybe its just my friends on FB or whatever, but they seemed impressed by this. if you believe he was giving drugs to women and raping them...of course he was getting drugs. i give the testimonies more weight than an admittance of "getting drugs".

this is what i was seeing:

Yup. So now he admits it. This raping piece of shit. You got drugs for "sex." Pahleez. You mean rape. He needs a LOT of jail time. These guys ruin our lives. Rapists should be jailed for life.

"Disappointment Cos, Disappointment"

"#howboutnow"

"It's a wrap *closes piano shut*"

"Bill Cosby is who they said he was. The Cosby show can exist as a great piece of art. He can still have had positive effect on some lives. But he's a drugger & rapist. Bottom line. No logic needed."

and i get it. its a step i guess. but if that judge couldn't get an indictment from that judicial deposition, that how is this any different. i'm about indictments and jail time. again...i think he did it. but if you want to prove that he did it...this isn't it.
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.

they're not entirely incorrect, although they are certainly presumptuous.

you should talk to them about that. with specifics.

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that he was doing what you believed that he was doing. It's not a smoking gun, but it's more compelling, especially given his denials.

Cosby has denied everything the accusers are saying - even that he gave them drugs other than sinus medication. This testimony seems to contradict the claim that he only offered sinus medication.

he said he gave one Benedryl.

but if you want a conviction off of him saying, "i was getting drugs to give to women," i don't think its gonna happen.

i get drugs to give to women all the time. only difference is they're awake and lucid when i give them to them. sometimes i get drugs to give to women and they give me the money for it, cause sometimes you cop for your friends.

as a lawyer and from a legal aspect (cause really i want to know. i've seen so many rich people get off cause of legal loopholes, that i have no faith in the judicial system) would you expect a guilty verdict from this:

According to the documents, Cosby was asked by attorney Dolores Troiani: "When you got the quaaludes, was it in your mind that you were going to use these quaaludes for young women that you wanted to have sex with?"

Cosby answered yes.

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The attorney then asked: "Did you ever give any of those young women the quaaludes without their knowledge?" At that point, Cosby's lawyer objected, stopping his client from answering.

Cosby then clarified an earlier remark saying that he had misunderstood.

He'd said he gave quaaludes to other people, and he later said: "I misunderstood. Woman ... not women."

The documents include Cosby's recollection of an incident in Las Vegas in the 1970s.

"She meets me backstage. I give her quaaludes. We then have sex," he said.
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.

1. stop talking about 'convictions'. Cos has not been criminally charged and won't be for any acts beyond relevant statutes of limitation. So stop it. In the Court of Public Opinion he has been tried, convicted and sentenced. It's over.

2. Cosby was asked those questions during a deposition in some civil case. i dunno what the case was about - but he later settled the matter for an undisclosed sum.

all i needed to hear. so why now is his statement so triumphant now? can they use it in more civil cases, or is the statute of limitation over for those too?
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it's true what they say...people are strange, when you're strangers.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and i cannot pretend.

This report has him saying affirmatively "yes, I did that." This is a new piece of information.

The reactions you see are purely about the court of public opinion.

http://i.imgur.com/W0dKWnt.jpg

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/07/business/media/document-cosby-case.html

if it's not incriminating as fuck, why did his lawyers fight so hard for this not to get out?

(a: read it.)


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UGH

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You cannot hate people for their own good.

Everyone was popping 'ludes in the 70's.
As stated above...there's a difference between slipping something in their drink and giving them their choice of party pleasures to get loose.
If that's rape, then there should be a lot of folks locked up.

they had no idea you were giving them pills and you raped them.

that is entirely different.

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I haven't read the whole thing yet.

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the several women who claim Cosby drugged them. before this we had no statement like this from Cosby that supported their claims - oh except he admitted he had offered Benadryl to some women.

this statement is no smoking gun, of course.

But enough for folks to run with though...

i appreciated his funny

and that's where it began and ended

http://imgur.com/LVWfXAj

Hypocritical moralisers take note.

http://www.thewrap.com/bill-cosbys-pound-cake-lecture-to-black-parents-made-judge-unseal-court-documents/

Judge Eduardo C. Robreno concluded “The stark contrast between Bill Cosby, the public moralist and Bill Cosby, the subject of serious allegations concerning improper (and perhaps criminal) conduct” made him unseal 2005 deposition

Bill Cosby‘s controversial conservative lecture to black parents on how to raise their children might have been his downfall.
Judge Eduardo C. Robreno shed light Monday on why the 2005 deposition where Cosby admitted to giving women Quaaludes in order to have sex with them was unsealed.

“The stark contrast between Bill Cosby, the public moralist and Bill Cosby, the subject of serious allegations concerning improper (and perhaps criminal) conduct, is a matter as to which the AP — and by extension the public — has a significant interest,” Judge Eduardo C. Robreno wrote on Monday.


The public moralist the Judge referenced revolved around a now infamous 2004 speech Cosby gave, where he called out black parents for not teaching their kids better.

“Looking at the incarcerated, these are not political criminals,” Cosby said. “These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake! Then we all run out and are outraged: ‘The cops shouldn’t have shot him.’ What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?”


Cosby’s attorney argued the case didn’t feature a politician, public official or public company, and celebrities are entitled to the right to privacy.

“It was a private dispute between two individuals over their personal relationship,” attorney George Gowen argued.

The Judge wasn’t having any of it.


“This case, however, is not about status as a public person by virtue of the exercise of his trade as a televised or comedic personality. Rather, has donned the mantle of public moralist and mounted the proverbial electronic or print soap box to volunteer his views on, among other things, childrearing, family life, education, and crime.”
Also Read: Roseanne Barr Fuels Bill Cosby Scandal With Gruesome


Robreno added, “He has voluntarily narrowed the zone of privacy that he is entitled to claim” and that Cosby lost his right to privacy by addressing the allegations made my dozens of women: “By joining the debate about the merits of the allegations against him, he has further diminished his entitlement to a claim of privacy.”

Judge was like "yeah, you already started addressing this publicly, so I'm letting them see it."

I wonder who dropped the ball on that move, Cos himself or his lawyers.

If the pound cake speech nerved him so much??

I may not know about the space program but I know something just ain't right w/ this

....and It's not because it's "Cosby" either...

The whole general situation was a weird open secret for like 8 or 9 years.

you think they were going to let that shit go?

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imagine him saying that bullshit today, in light of all of the people dead at the hands of the police

He’s got a bag of things that he will say will make you feel beautiful. Heroin, cocaine. He has some uppers and some downers and marijuana and all kind of good things, that will one day have you in pain and agony. But you can look at him right in the face and you can sing this song to him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdWD0ZPQHqA

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awful but they on it

where'd they go?

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I said that I wanted to hear both sides and still do. But I believe that many of the others haven't gone anywhere, they probably just avoided this post because of the condescending remarks in the rebuttals.

I was at Ben's Chili Bowl in DC a year ago, which is where Cos has a mural and is supposedly his fave restaurant. A feminist reporter asked me should the mural be removed because of the recent allegations. I asked her had he been convicted of anything, she said no, so I said no to her question. She tried to spit game after that but I was too focused on that turkey dog and fries.

This is not the finishing blow. I would like to hear his side of the story since he does have a right to defend himself. I'm still going to watch A Different World.

Edit & slight post jack: Y'all know they got a new Ben's in NE DC? That's a game changer, I recently quit poultry but I'm hitting up those vegetarian and cheese fries when I'm back in the area. Lawd

activity at the heart of the scandal, he provided his story through sworn testimony. It may not be the whole story, but it's part of it, and only a fool wouldn't be able to understand that.

and that's it

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if that clip from the deposition = Cosby defending himself from these allegations

I don't know what to tell you if that's what you believe, not only is that a logical fallacy it appears that you would have a personal axe to grind.

Don't want to be OK Legal here but cmon. Everyone has a right to defend themselves in such a situation

If someone wants to spin this into 'Cosby admits he raped several women!' thats on you, I just work with the information thats given and try not to add on.

Others won't let small things like facts get in the way.

>if that clip from the deposition = Cosby defending himself
>from these allegations

that's exactly what it is. he was being sued by a woman who claimed Cosby had drugged and raped her. he was the defendant in the suit. he was being deposed on the matter.

http://deadspin.com/the-former-basketball-player-who-brought-down-bill-cosb-1661203971

I'm talking about the overall situation, my apologies if that much could not be inferred.

Still, I will like a statement from Cosby addressing these charges currently and not simply owning up to getting drugs for women.

I would like something more definitive and I understand that everyone does not feel the same way.

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Cosby is not stupid. he is not ever going to address these allegations - unless and until he's named as a defendant in a criminal or civil matter related to the allegations.

but i hear you - there are many ppl who don't want to accept the fairly obvious truth about Cosby and his nefariousness. they are hard pills to swallow.

I'm not refusing to accept anything but the available information. Sorry that I lack the clairvoyance to know exactly what Cosby has done

the truth is the man raped and/or drugged at least 20 women.

it's okay if you're not ready to accept it. many ppl aren't.

Sorry that I wanted to hear both sides, mistake on my part

I forgot the allegiance to your respective agenda, my bad

I'm completely unfazed.

>I'm not refusing to accept anything but the available
>information. Sorry that I lack the clairvoyance to know
>exactly what Cosby has done


I am with you on this. People are acting as if he's gone to trial and was found guilty for rape. All he said was that he used to get the drugs to give to the girls that he wanted to have sex with. What's so wrong with that? He didn't say he drugged anybody, he didn't say anything about him forcibly raping anyone. I've gotten drugs to give girls that I was going to have sex with plenty of times whether it was marijuana, alcohol, ecstasy etc. I'm not here to defend the man but shit if I was a public figure I wouldn't want people judging me based on allegations that may or may not be true and shutting down everything i have going on. This is just overall not right to me.

sorry, after ten years of you not saying shit and trying to shut up anyone who does -- we're gonna fill in the blanks ourselves.

Also, thanks for telling me that you only believe things as decided by court cases. Apparently you approve of george Zimmerman's story about trayvon, and all of the cops who weren't convicted. if it's not in a court of law, it's not true. got it.

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>sorry, after ten years of you not saying shit and trying to
>shut up anyone who does -- we're gonna fill in the blanks
>ourselves.

I hear you and I think that if anyone of his stature has committed a crime of this nature should address the public about it absolutely. But I also don't think anyone should have to address something that isn't true about them regarding anything criminal or anything really if it is not true. I'm not saying that he is innocent I'm just saying that we don't know if he is guilty or not. From the reports I've heard or read from some of the women have seemed like crap to me but that's just my opinion. It's just hard for me to believe that someone I've grown up looking at as a positive black male role model was a serial rapist at some point without having any real evidence or him ever being convicted of such. I just feel like I at least should give him the benefit of doubt i mean shit he's a black entertainer and considering that some black entertainers may have been lied on in regards to rape and sentenced to prison and this man wasn't ever even tried in court I can't go for the okie doke.


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>Also, thanks for telling me that you only believe things as
>decided by court cases. Apparently you approve of george
>Zimmerman's story about trayvon, and all of the cops who
>weren't convicted. if it's not in a court of law, it's not
>true. got it.

Nah not even but at the same time you're just believing allegations about someone and running with them because there's all these people making them now. If that man was to make a statement about that now or even 10 years ago and said he didn't do it. Would you believe him? No. I'm sure you wouldn't and in that case that means he has no defense for himself so why even make a statement when critics like yourself are gonna say he's guilty anyway? It's like he can't say "Well just check the DNA..." or however the fuck they figure if somebody raped someone cause it can't be done now. He's defenseless and it's sad to see black people especially just like yep he's admitted to it now he gave drugs to em he must be a rapist.

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so as long as he's innocent he doesn't have to say anything.

but we can't know if he's guilty because he hasn't said anything.

the problem is us.

not that Bill cosby is a serial rapist based on the accusations

and an overall shitty human being in general, based entirely on his own verified statements and actions.

even if he said he was a rapist, you would find a way to be unconvinced.


he is a serial rapist because he's by 40 women of drugging and raping them.


40.


40+

say that when you're denying the charges on his behalf because he won't speak up for himself, say exactly what it is that you don't believe.

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>so as long as he's innocent he doesn't have to say anything.
>
>but we can't know if he's guilty because he hasn't said
>anything.


>the problem is us.
>
>not that Bill cosby is a serial rapist based on the
>accusations
>
>and an overall shitty human being in general, based entirely
>on his own verified statements and actions.

Where did he ever say that he was in fact a serial rapist or did anything of that nature show me then I will most likely change my mind. Until then FOH. I ain't defending him I'd be saying this for any man in this situation but the way this shit is going it's like any female that a man has sex with can come back 10-20 years later saying that you raped her and people will believe it. You don't have to have evidence or anything just women saying that it happened and that she was drugged and the man just needs to say that he used to get drugs for the women he intended to have sex with. Then everyone in the world believes it. TF?

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>even if he said he was a rapist, you would find a way to be
>unconvinced.

Why would I be unconvinced when someone actually admits to raping someone? You sound stupid as fuck and you don't strike me to a dumb dumb. If he's innocent you're still going to say he did it. To me this shit is just like the O.J. Simpson case he even went to trial and was declared not guilty but yet there's plenty of white people especially who believe that he was guilty of murdering his ex wife. How does that type of thinking help our society?

>he is a serial rapist because he's by 40 women of drugging and
>raping them.
>
>40.
>
>
>40+
>
>say that when you're denying the charges on his behalf because
>he won't speak up for himself, say exactly what it is that you
>don't believe.

I aint denying any charges bro idgaf if he did it or not truthfully. Where are the charges tho lol. You're looking too deep into this but at the end of the day everyone in this country is innocent of any crime until proven guilty. If he was never even tried for a particular crime how can you believe it ever occured? Let me say this if these events did occur then I feel bad for the women that may have dealt with this I have 2 daughters and was raised by women and its unfortunate for any woman to be raped. But on the other hand which we all should take into consideration that he may indeed be innocent and in that event then what? After all the crap about him.... if he's innocent then what? Call it what you want but I'm sticking to what I believe and that is due diligence under the law. Our Judicial system may be flawed but i still respect it.

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is a weird thing to not care about.

like, on the list of things to care about, you mention your daughter.

but when you hear 40 women have been raped, your response is "idgaf"

bruh, be honest with yourself for two minutes. your lies don't match up.

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>is a weird thing to not care about.

This is just something in the media that is popular there's a post on it so I commented. Why should I have so much care about his situation. I don't get your logic.

>like, on the list of things to care about, you mention your
>daughter.
>
>but when you hear 40 women have been raped, your response is
>"idgaf"

My daughters are not any of these women and i don't know any of these women. But like i said in the last message if these things did occur to any of these women then that is highly unfortunate and he should have been sent to prison at the time the events occured but at this point we can't prove any of it so what the fuck?
These women have been coming out of nowhere that doesn't alarm you in anyway. Especially knowing that it's past the statue of limitations for these supposed crimes.
Bro have you seen some of the shit some of these women are saying?

>bruh, be honest with yourself for two minutes. your lies don't
>match up.

What am i lying about sir?
What I'm saying is I really don't care if he's innocent or not. His life has nothing to do with mines so that's why I say that I could care less. What I'm concerned with is people in america and how all of these people are saying that he's guilty when there'e no proof of him being guilty that's all. There's guys with rape cases all across america IDGAF about their cases tf are you talking about? What the hell does someone on trial for rape have to do with my daughters?

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nothing.

or just 40+ rapes?

dude, just admit what it really is.

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>nothing.
>
>or just 40+ rapes?
>
>dude, just admit what it really is.
>
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Bro you keep insinuating shit with me just like you're doing with Cosby i didn't say that i don't care what happens to people I don't know, I'm saying I don't know them so why should I be so concerned over some 20-40 year old allegations that should've been reported then. If this shit would've been reported then and he was arrested or what not then i could ride with you and whomever on him being guilty and being a piece of shit and all that. But why should I and why do you care so much about something that you and I don't even know is true or not? Why should I care so much about fucking rape allegations that should've been reported 20-30 years ago when the person they are alleging could've actually been prosecuted.

but when it comes to an active serial rapist who has been raping women within the last decade and stretching back to the 70s, you're like "who needs the truth"

admit why you don't care about this one b.

I wasn't aware the truth had a time limit on it.

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>but when it comes to an active serial rapist who has been
>raping women within the last decade and stretching back to the
>70s, you're like "who needs the truth"

What? where is the truth? if you just want to take their allegations as the truth and if that's what everyone else is doing then Men we're really fucked in america.

>admit why you don't care about this one b.

I've told you already. Ok look at it this way, have you ever slept with a woman after you smoked some weed with her? or Popped a X pill? or Drank some liquor with her? If you haven't then god bless you, you lil angel you. But if you have then you saying cosby is guilty is saying that any woman from your past who you may have done any of the above with can come back 10-40 years later and say you raped her. Do you get that part?

>I wasn't aware the truth had a time limit on it.

Once again what are you talking about? I'm all for truth and no the truth has no time limit but the real truth behind all of this we will never know. You can't know the truth at this point my friend. He can't be tried now on this shit sooooo.... All the women can do at this point is sue him and many may win based on the statement that he made in regards to getting drugs to give them. But does that mean he actually raped them? IDK you can believe what you want.... this is the same shit that happened to O.J. Simpson and he was arrested and was tried and found not guilty yet majority of white america still believe til this day that he was the culprit.

I don't really have any stance on this I am caught up in how our American people are thinking these days and how they are reacting to this situation as well as many other situations at this time.

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now you're saying it doesn't count because it's 40 years old. even though there are much newer accusations.

keep inventing new reasons

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>but when it comes to an active serial rapist who has been
>raping women within the last decade and stretching back to the
>70s, you're like "who needs the truth"
>
>admit why you don't care about this one b.
>
>I wasn't aware the truth had a time limit on it.
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

To add to this I saw a couple of the people who are saying that he raped them. One being Janice Dickinson and she says one night that she went to his home He gave her a pill that she took willingly fell asleep and woke up with his penis in her face. But yet she says she had many other encounters with him afterwards. Why Tf did she keep messin with him and not report it? Then there was another woman who said he raped her several times and she got tired of that so she told him she contracted a disease that he would catch if he kept raping her. So she says from that point on He forced her to give him oral sex. How the hell does a man for a woman to give him oral sex? With a pistol to her brain or what? After seeing those allegations I couldn't take this serious and thats where my uncertainty about this whole thing stems from.

funny, how we can't doubt cosby, but we can doubt his accusers.

it's almost like you have different rules for different people.

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>funny, how we can't doubt cosby, but we can doubt his
>accusers.
>
>it's almost like you have different rules for different
>people.
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

I just told you IDK what tf is going on here... This is a really complicated situation and I can't just go off of people's allegations that just started popping up. It just looks fishy to me... It's possible he may have done something to someone.... but 40 women coming out of the blue... Come on Man... And at the same time I had wondered why hasn't he just said "I aint do the shit, Ok" but then I thought well if he hasn't done anything why should he say something. I'm just not where you are yet with this not saying I won't be if this is all the truth but at this point I'm just like IDK... I'm not saying he's innocent and I'm not saying he's guilty what i'm saying is IDK about this... it's tricky...

what you think you know about sexual assault has no connection to reality. the behavioral assumptions you've made are either entirely incorrect, or just your imagination.

If you'd like to learn more you should educate yourself.

Also, there are 40+ accusations.

"I don't know" doesn't cut it.

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>what you think you know about sexual assault has no
>connection to reality. the behavioral assumptions you've made
>are either entirely incorrect, or just your imagination.

How so professor?

>If you'd like to learn more you should educate yourself.

Show me something that will educate me bro since you got all the answers Sway. Show me why you believe what you believe then maybe my mind will change to how I view this.

>Also, there are 40+ accusations.

Ok there's 40+ accusations are there any that aren't passed the statue of limitations that he can be tried in court for?

>"I don't know" doesn't cut it.

show me something.

>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

do research on the subject yourself. I feel like (I could be wrong) you are not considering me a trustworthy source, so I wouldn't want to taint the info. There are many experts in the field, I'm sure you can find one.

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>do research on the subject yourself. I feel like (I could be
>wrong) you are not considering me a trustworthy source, so I
>wouldn't want to taint the info. There are many experts in the
>field, I'm sure you can find one.
>
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All that for this... LOL...

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I said that was his side.

which it was.

you can't say that he was defending himself in that testimony, and also say he hasn't told his side.



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but maybe that was a stretch to comprehend

how is that not him telling his side.

what person thinks that 10 years isn't enough time to say anything you need to say, when you've already spoken on the record.

and then spent the next ten years keeping your words buried.

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Sorry thought you guys were working with the same info as I

thanks, you're not doing much to change my mind but you are steadfast in halting convo and for that you are appreciated

by someone, likely the other guy who is seemingly transcendent

I'm completely unfazed.

I felt like that was clear.

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As if it wasnt already.
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/255026/chloe-goins-new-cosby-testimony-very-helpful/

I wonder if, in the 70s, a grown man in the entertainment industry gave a young girl quaaludes and raped her in front of several other people, what would happen.

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/the-lost-girls/

(spoiler: not much)

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>I wonder if, in the 70s, a grown man in the entertainment
>industry gave a young girl quaaludes and raped her in front of
>several other people, what would happen.
>
>http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/the-lost-girls/
>
>(spoiler: not much)
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

posting
and adding you on FB if you don't mind

~~~~
When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
~~~~
You cannot hate people for their own good.

"We have to protect our women fellas!!"

What, retroactively?

>"We have to protect our women fellas!!"
>
>What, retroactively?

pandering to women on facebook.

nice pivot away from your never ending cosby support, but still the shittiest thing you could be, given the circumstances. I applaud your consistency.

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you're not just a misogynist who hides behind religion, you're also a lunatic

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Don't worry, I'll wait.

we know that you think the important thing, when dealing with a serial rapist, is to make sure that no men are nefariously getting facebook likes. that no one believes the testimony of dozens of women.

we know who you are.

we can see you.

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I could drop links all day, and you'd lie like you always have.

I don't have to.

We see you.

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I'll wait.

and you can't make me.

I love it!

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It would make your day to rub all the things I never said in my face because of this wonderful new revelation.

Too bad.

Buh-bye.

I've read them before.

we know who you are.

we see you.

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are about you.

that's how delusional you are

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http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/302/170/685.png

you can't throw that out and not back it up...

well, you can buy it makes you look unstable

the cosby club is pretty well known.

we see you too

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That's majorly wrong

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>the cosby club is pretty well known.
>
>we see you too
>

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because if they aren't always and constantly taking up for men
then they are "pandering"

the lack of logic...
no longer astounding
~~~~
When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
~~~~
You cannot hate people for their own good.

is important.

it MUST be to get facebook likes.

because those have value, as opposed to women, who don't have value.

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Facebook likes

YEAH THATS IT

~~~~
When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
~~~~
You cannot hate people for their own good.

~~~~
When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
~~~~
You cannot hate people for their own good.

Now this is weird as hell... SMH

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cliff-huxtable-once-drugged-women-with-bbq-sauce-on-the-cosby-show/

shit like this being used as evidence of it

that joke is indicative of the sleaze of yesteryear, and it MIGHT give an insight to what he finds amusing/acceptable

but I think they both have little bearing on what he is accused of having done. they're both very interesting coincidences, not really hints as to what he was doing behind the scenes.

but that's how sicing works

This bitch is basically Dotty Sandusky with a tan and an on the payroll. After hearing about how she would clear out of the house after she and Cosby arrived with women when it was time to for Cosby to drug them.... I'm not sure she shouldn't be locked up too. She must think we are dumb or delusional.

http://jezebel.com/bill-cosbys-wife-women-consented-to-drugs-and-sex-1717326444

The New York Post reports that, during a meeting on Tuesday night, Bill Cosby’s wife Camille told a group of close professional advisors that she believes her husband’s accusers consented to both drugs and sex. Camille Cosby’s words come on the heels of an Associated Press report of a 2005 deposition in which Bill Cosby admitted to buying Quaaludes, “with the intent of giving them to young women he wanted to have sex with.”

Via the NYP:

“Camille still doesn’t believe that Bill provided drugs and had sex with women without their consent,” said a source employed by the Cosby family. “She’s well aware of his cheating, but she doesn’t believe that her husband is a rapist.”

Mrs. Cosby is “a proud, dignified but stubborn woman. You can say that she’s standing by her husband, but really, the more people stand against him, the more she perceives it as an affront to her and all that she’s done to make him a star,” said another source who’s done business with the ­Cosbys and remains close to them.
“They are making him out to be such a bad guy, a monster,” Camille allegedly said during the meeting. According to a source, Camille—who is also Bill’s business manager—strategized with lawyers and PR professionals to repair Bill’s reputation. Though that seems an unlikely scenario given the preponderance of evidence that Bill Cosby is a serial rapist. Nearly 50 women have now come forward with eerily similar accounts of drugging followed by sexual assault.

The Cosbys have been married for 51 years.

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DJTB YOMM

50 people because he told me the adultery was consentual"

So she knows he cheated but knows it isn't rape because he said so.

50 cases tho?! C'mon now.

very good, accurate cooment:

"The media is also using a play of words in this Cosby case. In that deposition from 2005 Mr Cosby ONLY ADMITTED TO BUYING DRUGS FOR THE WOMEN. CNN & FOX are falsely reporting that he ADMITTED to buying the drugs and using it to knock out the females in order to RAPE them. This is COMPLETELY false. Most people back in the 70's used recreational drugs like LUDES, COKE, & SPANISH FLY for a good time, ORGIES, and sex parties"

but you should leave it like that.

you look like smarter if people don't see the video

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>but you should leave it like that.

i will.

>you look like smarter if people don't see the video

that's the beauty of being smart, and true self respect.

i don't worry atall abt "looking" like anything.

http://josephcphillips.com/2015/07/of-course-bill-cosby-is-guilty/

I love Bill Cosby! Honestly, that phrase may not be enough to sufficiently describe my feelings for Bill. He was my boyhood idol. His influence on my life has been profound. I owe much of who I am to Bill Cosby, so the idea of love seems to fall short of exactly how I feel. It may be that I need more than one word: Adulation! Regard! Devotedness! And yet, I remain inarticulate.

While growing up, I watched everything Bill Cosby did. My father had several of his comedy albums; I memorized them backwards and forwards. Bill was one of two comics that I imitated and memorized. Richard Pryor was the other. I owe my sense of humor to Bill Cosby. However, for me, Bill Cosby was more than a comedian. Bill was my idea of a great man – a great Black man! He was good looking, talented, smart, and he was fearless. The Cos was a ladies man, but also good father and husband – devoted to his wife and children. Bill was educated; he collected art and was fluent in jazz. After my father, Bill Cosby was the man I aspired to be. Few get an opportunity to meet their idol, much less work with them. I was blessed in that regard, and even more blessed that I found my idol as clever, kind, and brilliant as I had imagined.

In 2014 a series of accusations hit the public consciousness. A number of women stepped forward to claim that the great Bill Cosby had behaved inappropriately with them – groping, propositioning, and exposing himself. There were also a number of women who leveled far more serious accusations. These women claimed that Bill had drugged them and had sex with them while they were unconscious. On the street and in the courtroom, that is called rape.

As the story broke, I had dozens of people reach out to me asking me if the stories were true. I was low man on the totem pole. I can’t imagine how inundated with inquiries were Malcolm Jamal Warner or Phylicia Rashad. It must have been hell for them. It was no picnic for me. Everyone wanted to know if my idol was guilty.

When I joined the cast of the Cosby Show in 1989, it seemed to be common knowledge that Bill played around. When I say common knowledge, I mean that it was just something that people seemed to know without anyone saying anything. Bill sleeping around was a “fact” that, like, the air, seemed to just be. You didn’t have to see it or hear it to know that it existed.

There was also the seeming unending parade of pretty young women that streamed through the studio. In fact, that is what some of us called it – the parade. Light skinned. “Good” hair. One prettier than the next. I was 28, healthy, single, and horny as hell! You will forgive me if I wasn’t really focused on Bill during the parades.

Of course, people said things to me as if they had first-hand knowledge of Bills business, and maybe they did. I suspect however, that rather than eyewitness testimony, what they had was the same thing that I had: speculation and gossip. I love dish as much as the next person, but I do prefer to see with my own eyes.

I also know that men who are wealthy and powerful are always the target of gossip, lies, and slander. Hell, you don’t even have to be wealthy, powerful, or good looking. The truth is that people will lie about you just because they are bored!

Still, his infidelity to his marriage vows would not have surprised me. I don’t say that as any comment on Bill’s character. I say it only because I think it would be extremely difficult for any rich, powerful man to say, “No” every single time a woman threw herself at him. I was a scrub and the opportunities for sex that were tossed my way were numerous. I suspect that if I had been really famous and extremely wealthy, the opportunities would have increased exponentially (as would have the lies and gossip). Does any man have the fortitude to turn so much nookie down every single time? Some, perhaps. I don’t think many.

I am also of the opinion that some women who are married to prominent men strike a deal with themselves. They believe that, for men, the act of sex is removed from love. The bargain they make is that as long as their husbands continue to bring home the checks and don’t bring home any babies or diseases, they will overlook any dalliances.

So, in 1989, my attitude was that if Bill was cheating on Camille, I am fairly certain Camille knew. Hey, if everyone who claimed to know actually knew, then certainly Camille knew, and had long ago made her peace with it. At any rate, it was none of my business. I never saw Bill engage in any inappropriate behavior. I certainly never saw him drug anyone. So, all I have is the same gossip as everyone else.

As the accusations began to increase, I became increasingly disturbed. I was fairly certain that some of the women were lying through their teeth, but certainly not all of them. Discovering that the man you idolize may be a serial rapist is a bit traumatic. I don’t imagine it is anything near to the trauma of the alleged victims. Nevertheless, I found it unsettling.

I was particularly shaken the afternoon I bumped into an old friend while shopping. The controversy was at its height. The story of Bill was all over the press. I hadn’t seen this woman for many years. Back in the day, I had asked her out on a few dates, but was relegated to the friend zone so fast it made my ears wiggle. We had kept in touch for a few years, but our lives had taken different paths. Over the years, I had watched with a passive interest as her career grew, so I was excited to see her and catch up a bit.

As we spoke, I recalled that Bill had been her mentor (play father, teacher…something. I couldn’t quite recall what it was). The question popped into my head.

“Hey, do you mind if I ask you something?”

She looked at me and then asked, “Is it going to make me cry?”

I was a bit taken aback. “Well,” I stammered. “I hope it doesn’t make you cry.”

She smiled. “Go ahead and ask your question.”

“Back in the day,” I started. “I remember that you knew Bill – that he was like your mentor or something. Did he ever…”

Before I finished the sentence, she began to cry.

We spent the next two hours sitting on a bench talking. Through tears, she told me her story. She cursed him for violating both her trust and her body. She cursed herself for not being smarter, and for degrading herself in pursuit of success. I listened patiently. As she began to run out of steam, she turned to me. “Do you believe me?”

“Yes.” I said. “I believe you.”

“Why?” she asked.

“Because I don’t believe that you are crazy and only a crazy person would sit with me all this time and share a fantasy.”

I am not sure if our conversation was cathartic for her. I know it was heart-breaking for me.

As I drove home, I battled my emotions. I felt for my friend, for the violation of her trust, loyalty, and body. I was angry with Bill. He had money, fame, and power; he was a walking aphrodisiac! Why? I was also angry at myself for falling for the okey-doke, of putting Bill on a pedestal. Something changed inside me during that drive; call it the last gasp of a mocking bird.

More recently, there were a series of court documents that were unsealed and revealed a dark side to the Cos. Rather than spending his time bouncing kids on his knee and eating Jell-O brand pudding, this Bill was involved in illegal drugs and illicit sex, fornication, and perhaps more.

I’ve done a lot of thinking over these weeks. The good Bill has done over the years is real and enduring. I am not prepared to simply dismiss his brilliance, his wisdom, or his legacy. You see, all of that is a part of who I am as a man – as a Black man. I am not going to toss all of that away, at least not yet. It seems to me that one should be able to look with sober eyes and yet hold on to those elements of substance that are both true and comforting.

Over the weekend, Bill turned 78 years old. It is with all of the love I still have for him and the reverence of one who has idolized him for a lifetime that I offer this plea.

Bill, you have a family who loves you, a wife who is devoted to you; you have more money than you can spend. Please, go live a quiet country life. Allow those of us who truly love you to preserve just a bit of our enchantment.

>“Do you believe me?”
>
>“Yes.” I said. “I believe you.”
>
>“Why?” she asked.
>
>“Because I don’t believe that you are crazy and only a
>crazy person would sit with me all this time and share a
>fantasy.”
>

Too bad there aren't more men who respond in this way.

That shit is disgusting.

The first comment in the link says it all:

You seem to really understand women. You're familiar with their propensity to throw themselves at men, and spread lies & gossip. You definitely have a very good grasp of the stereotypes applied to the women who marry prominent men. It must have been really difficult for you to field all those questions about allegations against your idol. I can’t imagine what trauma you went through during that time, discovering he may have been a rapist. And it was certainly kind of you to assume the role of truth detector for your sobbing friend, finding it in your heart to grant her validation based on your understanding of what happened as a non-involved party. You were able to see past her “ditzy” nature and remain open to the possibility she may have been assaulted. Finally, I commend you for standing up for Cosby’s legacy, holding on to what’s true and comforting to you, and not allowing his reputation to be sullied by the pain and trauma reported by his rape victims, women who suffered in silence for years fearing their accusations would go nowhere. Your harsh command that Cosby go live out a quiet country life is commendable considering what you’ve been through. In the end, it is preserving your enchantment of a lifelong role model that is most precious. I think any rape victim would be silly to think her need for justice, accountability and validation is anywhere near as important.

lol

i just read this a few minutes ago...it was so skillful, that I thought she was serious at first

d

he looked up to the man before and while working with him

he expressed sadness, disappointment and lowkey disgust, which is more than anyone else from the show has done publicly

instead of calling for justice for the victims...or shit...even wishing for peace and happiness and "closure" for the victims. If he's gonna be biased, he should have at least been balanced.

i mean, the whole thing started and ended badly, with a lil ignorance and misogyny sprinkled throughout.

d

>instead of calling for justice for the victims...or
>shit...even wishing for peace and happiness and "closure" for
>the victims. If he's gonna be biased, he should have at least
>been balanced.
>
>i mean, the whole thing started and ended badly, with a lil
>ignorance and misogyny sprinkled throughout.
>
>d


Was he supposed to wish Cosby death or some shit? Been balanced how, I'm sure this guy along with many others are aware that the statue of limitations has passed and there's not really much that can be done in most of these cases.

He SHOULD put the suffering of the victims before any consequences that may effect him. Ie...the highly questionable 'trauma' he suffered in having his role model revealed to be someone different than his perception. I mean, who the fuck cares?

"Discovering that the man you idolize may be a serial rapist is a bit traumatic. I don’t imagine it is anything near to the trauma of the alleged victims. Nevertheless, I found it unsettling."

So by saying his trauma was not anything near the trauma of the victims means nothing huh? His trauma is still notable and I think that was stated to get the reader to realize how hard this was for him to accept. This was his idol who he was around on a daily basis. It's like finding out that your father is a rapist or something. He even said it in an interview that Bill Cosby was 2nd to his father in the men he looked up to.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/07/14/whoopi-goldberg-changes-stance-says-for-bill-cosby-all-signs-points-to-guilt/

Whoopi Goldberg changes stance, says for Bill Cosby all signs 'points to guilt'
Published July 14, 2015FoxNews.com


Whoopi Goldberg, one of the few celebrities who has defended Bill Cosby against allegations that he raped and drugged dozens of women, has changed her stance on the scandal.

In a departure from the normal round-table debate style of the “The View,” co-host Goldberg sat down one-on-one with ABC News’ Chief Legal Analyst Dan Abrams on Tuesday to discuss her take on the disgraced comedian.

Goldberg treated the chat as an educational sit down, claiming that she had always been under the impression that if Cosby had raped and drugged women, he would be arrested and taken to jail.

Taking a much more open-minded approach to discussing the Cosby scandal than she did last week when she declared he was innocent until proven guilty, Goldberg asked Abrams, “As a serial rapist, why is he still on the street?”

Abrams explained that because the civil and criminal statute of limitations has expired for the vast majority of the women accusing Cosby of a crime, he will likely never see the inside of a jail cell.

“Why is there a statute of limitations?” Goldberg asked. “I always thought that rape cases were open-ended.”

Abrams explained there is a movement now to remove the statute of limitations in rape cases, which Goldberg said she fully supports.

An incredulous Goldberg summarized: “I think you look at this case and you see the number of accusations and you say, ‘wait a second…’ I always thought if you take somebody to court, you can have the accuser say ‘that’s who did it,’ but you’re saying all that is left to these women is the court of public opinion.”

“If this is to be tried in the court of public opinion, all the information that is out there kind of points to guilt,” she concluded.

Goldberg’s statements are a major deviation from the previous times she has spoken about Cosby, 77.

Last week on “The View,” Goldberg angered fans by saying: “Save your texts; save your nasty comments. I don’t care. I say this because this is my opinion, and in America, still, I know it’s a shock, but you are still innocent until proven guilty. He has not been proven a rapist.”

She said she on Tuesday that she has taken a lot of heat for her past statements, and she reiterated that now that she is armed with a full understanding of the lack of legal action Cosby accusers can take, “I can’t say any more ‘innocent until proven guilty.’”

trying to be reasonable about all of it. Outside of her initial stand-up run & the Blackface thing she's always come off as extremely reasonable and fair imo.

how does she defend him and 2 days later get all the info? Especially since she is a Hollywood insider who knows all about the kinky side of Hollyweird

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so are most friends and family members of rapists and murders

i get it
we know the personae she has to reconcile that quite a few of the folks she's chummy with for the past 30-40 years are grimy rapey racist bastards
gibson
woody allen
danson
polanski

and the people around them family assistants
likely knew
and she's might just be close to those people as well

the 6 degree of separation is very real for her
and she's an older black woman
mysogyny no matter how much she has battled it herself
is sunk in deep for her
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When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
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You cannot hate people for their own good.

is just how crazy you have to be to insist on staying on a bandwagon even whoopi goldberg has figured out it's time to escape from.

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guilty or innocent?

>is just how crazy you have to be to insist on staying on a
>bandwagon even whoopi goldberg has figured out it's time to
>escape from.

w/o being on any bandwagon?

hiding in plain sight for ten years. that's an awesome question thank you for bringing it up you are a god among people

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if someone who knows him and knows him well. I mean for YEARS could come around and look at it and say I was wrong he is dirty. I dont understand why people who have literally no stake emotionally or other wise still choose to ride for this man. Shit is crazy.

she was falsely accused of a crime by several people
and it seemed less about defending Cosby than just saying
people will lie...

hot topics for life

Bill's former mistress saying she got his back as well

Camille Cosby said those women lying

Still, Bill lost this one. The damage is done

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/arts/bill-cosby-deposition-reveals-calculated-pursuit-of-young-women-using-fame-drugs-and-deceit.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=photo-spot-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Bill Cosby Deposition Reveals Calculated Pursuit of Young Women, Using Fame, Drugs and Deceit
By GRAHAM BOWLEY and SYDNEY EMBERJULY 18, 2015
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He was not above seducing a young model by showing interest in her father’s cancer. He promised other women his mentorship and career advice before pushing them for sex acts. And he tried to use financial sleight of hand to keep his wife from finding out about his serial philandering.

Bill Cosby admitted to all of this and more over four days of intense questioning 10 years ago at a Philadelphia hotel, where he defended himself in a deposition for a lawsuit filed by a young woman who accused him of drugging and molesting her.

Even as Mr. Cosby denied he is a sexual predator who assaulted many women, he presented himself in the deposition as an unapologetic, cavalier playboy, someone who used a combination of fame, apparent concern and powerful sedatives in a calculated pursuit of young women — a profile at odds with the popular image he so long enjoyed, that of father figure and public moralist.


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In the last year more than two dozen women have come forward to accuse Bill Cosby of raping or groping them, beginning in the mid-1960s.Bill Cosby Admission About Quaaludes Offers Accusers VindicationJULY 7, 2015
In the deposition, which Mr. Cosby has for years managed to keep private but was obtained by The New York Times, the entertainer comes across as alternately annoyed, mocking, occasionally charming and sometimes boastful, often blithely describing sexual encounters in graphic detail.


Document: Excerpts From Bill Cosby’s Deposition
He talked of the 19-year-old aspiring model who sent him her poem and ended up on his sofa, where, Mr. Cosby said, she pleasured him with lotion.

He spoke with casual disregard about ending a relationship with another model so he could pursue other women. “Moving on,” was his phrase.

He suggested he was skilled in picking up the nonverbal cues that signal a woman’s consent.

“I think I’m a pretty decent reader of people and their emotions in these romantic sexual things, whatever you want to call them,” he said.

Through it all, his manner was largely one of casual indifference.

At one point in the first day of questioning, Dolores M. Troiani, the lawyer for the plaintiff in the case, Andrea Constand, a young woman who worked at Temple University as a basketball manager, seemed struck by Mr. Cosby’s jocular manner.

“I think you’re making light of a very serious situation,” she said, to which Mr. Cosby replied: “That may very well be.”

Interest in Mr. Cosby’s deposition grew this month when a federal judge unsealed a 62-page memorandum of law in the case, which had been settled in 2006. The memorandum contained excerpts from the deposition, including Mr. Cosby’s acknowledgment that he had obtained quaaludes as part of his effort to have sex with women.

The parties have been prohibited from releasing the memorandum because of a confidentiality clause that was part of the settlement agreement, but the deposition itself was never sealed. This month, Ms. Constand’s lawyer asked the court to lift the confidentiality clause so her client would be free to release the nearly 1,000-page deposition transcript. The Times later learned that the transcript was already publicly available through a court reporting service.

Mr. Cosby has never been charged with a crime and has repeatedly denied the accusations of sexual assault, now leveled by dozens of women. David Brokaw, Mr. Cosby’s publicist, and Ms. Troiani did not respond to requests for comment on Saturday. In three suits, women who accused Mr. Cosby of sexual misconduct are pursuing civil claims against him. In addition, the Los Angeles police have said they are reviewing a complaint of a sexual nature against Mr. Cosby.


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While Mr. Cosby describes encounters with numerous women through the course of his deposition, it is through his long and detailed descriptions of his relationship with Ms. Constand, who is much younger, that Mr. Cosby’s attitudes, proclivities and approach to women are most clearly revealed. Ms. Constand was present for at least some of Mr. Cosby’s testimony in the Rittenhouse Hotel in Philadelphia.

An Interest Piqued

First spotting her at Temple University in the early 2000s, Mr. Cosby said he felt romantic interest immediately (“She’s good-looking”), and began a relationship that led, in his telling, to dinners and more.

Asked how he wooed her, Mr. Cosby, who has been married since 1964, responded: “Inviting her to my house, talking to her about personal situations dealing with her life, growth, education.”

He painted his relationship with Ms. Constand as one of mentor and mentee, casting himself in the role of an experienced guide and offering her the benefit of his contacts, fame and experience.


Left to right, Rebecca Lynn Neal, Gloria Allred, a lawyer, and Beth Ferrier. Ms. Neal and Ms. Ferrier were witnesses in a 2005 lawsuit brought by Andrea Constand accusing Bill Cosby of sexual battery. Credit Frederic J. Brown/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
At times he described becoming frustrated after Ms. Constand failed to follow his advice, such as when he wanted her to pursue her interest in sports broadcasting by calling someone and she did not. “Here’s a mentor, Bill Cosby, who is in the business, Bill Cosby, who happens to know something about what to do and Andrea is not picking up on it,” he said.

Ms. Constand ultimately went to the police to complain of Mr. Cosby’s behavior, but in his telling, his seduction was one of persistence and patience.

Early on in his courtship, he arranged an intimate meal alone with her at his Pennsylvania home, complete with Cognac, dimmed lights and a fire, he said. At one point he led her to his back porch, out of sight from his chef. “I take her hair and I pull it back and I have her face like this,” he said. “And I’m talking to her ...And I talked to her about relaxing, being strong. And I said to her, come in, meaning her body.”

But the two remained inches apart, he said, and he did not try to kiss her because he did not sense she wanted him to. Nevertheless, at the next dinner he said they had what he described as a “sexual moment,” short of intercourse. He described her afterward as having “a glow.”

Expounding on his philosophy about sex, Mr. Cosby said he tended to refrain from intercourse because he did not want women to fall in love with him. To him, he said, the act of sexual intercourse “is something that I feel the woman will succumb to more of a romance and more of a feeling, not love, but it’s deeper than a playful situation.” As far as he and Ms. Constand went, he said, they were “playing sex, we’re playing, petting, we’re playing.”

Was he in love with her? “No.”

Yet the friendship endured for a few years, until one night at his Pennsylvania home, when Ms. Constand said Mr. Cosby drugged and molested her.

Mr. Cosby said he gave her one and a half tablets of Benadryl to relieve stress, they kissed and had sexual contact. Her lawyer said she believed it was a much more powerful drug.


Some time later, after Ms. Constand had moved home to Canada, Mr. Cosby spoke with Ms. Constand’s mother on the telephone. The mother, he said, was upset about what her daughter said Mr. Cosby had done, describing the experience as “a mother’s nightmare.”

In the deposition, he said he was worried that Ms. Constand’s mother would think of him as a “dirty old man.”

During the call, Mr. Cosby told the deposing lawyers, he wanted Ms. Constand to tell her mother “about the orgasm” so that she would realize it was consensual.

“Tell your mother about the orgasm. Tell your mother how we talked,” he said he remembered thinking.

Subsequently, concerned that Ms. Constand and her mother might seek to embarrass him, he said he offered to help pay for Ms. Constand’s further education. Years earlier, he offered to reward another woman, Therese Serignese, whom he had met at the Las Vegas Hilton in 1976, with money as a bonus for good grades.

Hiding His Behavior

It is difficult to say to what extent Mr. Cosby’s wife, Camille, was aware of her husband’s womanizing, though it was certainly clear to her by 1997, when Mr. Cosby acknowledged an affair. Mrs. Cosby suggested at the time that there had been marital problems but they had put them behind them.

Mr. Cosby performing in Florida in November. Credit Phelan M. Ebenhack/Associated Press
Still, in the deposition, Mr. Cosby, 78, described going to some lengths to hide his behavior, blocking a magazine article to avoid publicity and funneling money to one woman through his agent so “Mrs. Cosby” wouldn’t find out.

In the case of Ms. Constand, who never sought any funds, Mr. Cosby said he imagined his wife would have known he was helping with her education. But, he said, “My wife would not know it was because Andrea and I had had sex and that Andrea was now very, very upset and that she decided that she would like to go to school.”

While Mr. Cosby insists the only drug he gave Ms. Constand was Benadryl, he is open about his access in the 1970s to quaaludes, a sedative also popular as a party drug.

He said he obtained seven prescriptions for them over two to three years from a doctor in Los Angeles, ostensibly for a sore back but in reality to give to women.

He admits to giving young women quaaludes at that time “the same as a person would say have a drink,” he said, but not without their knowledge.

Though he portrayed the drug-taking and sex as consensual, Mr. Cosby — when asked whether Ms. Serignese was in a position to consent to sexual intercourse after he gave her quaaludes in 1976 — said: “I don’t know.”

Joseph Cammarata, a lawyer for Ms. Serignese and two other women who are suing Mr. Cosby for defamation, said of the deposition: “This information is important because it sheds light on the private practices of a man who holds himself out as a public moralist.”

A Life of Wealth

During the questioning, Mr. Cosby cast himself as a sensitive and attentive supporter of Ms. Constand, though his tone changed when addressing Ms. Constand in the present tense.

Asked by Ms. Constand’s lawyer about how he felt when Ms. Constand cried during her own deposition, Mr. Cosby was unsparing: “I think Andrea is a liar and I know she’s a liar because I was there. I was there.”


And he could be dispassionate in recalling former relationships. With a woman named Beth Ferrier, a model he met in the 1980s, he recalled inquiring after her career and her father, who had died of cancer.

“Did you ask her those questions because you wanted to have sexual contact with her?” Ms. Troiani asked.

“Yes,” Mr. Cosby responded.

Still, he said he viewed himself as a good person, worthy of trust, and chivalrous in his desire to never tell others about the women with whom he had sex.

“I am a man, the only way you will hear about who I had sex with is from the person I had it with,” he said.

In some passages, Mr. Cosby offered a glimpse into a life long insulated by perks and wealth. Some idiosyncrasies are revealed, like his penchant for sweatpants (he had at least 100, he said), how he used the name Seymour Rapaport as an alias in the 1970s and 1980s when he traveled, and how many of his employees signed confidentiality agreements.

In the deposition, Mr. Cosby described sexual liaisons — he sometimes calls them rendezvous — with at least five women, and having a “romantic” interest in two more, in locations like Denver, Las Vegas and New York and Pennsylvania, in hotels or in one of his homes.

In the court case, 13 women came forward with anonymous sworn statements to support Ms. Constand, saying that they, too, had been molested in some way by Mr. Cosby. But they never had a chance to pursue their claims in court because, six months after the fourth and final day of his deposition, Mr. Cosby settled the case with Ms. Constand on undisclosed terms. His deposition was filed away, another document in a settled court case, until now.

During the call, Mr. Cosby told the deposing lawyers, he wanted Ms. Constand to tell her mother “about the orgasm” so that she would realize it was consensual.

“Tell your mother about the orgasm. Tell your mother how we talked,” he said he remembered thinking.

Subsequently, concerned that Ms. Constand and her mother might seek to embarrass him, he said he offered to help pay for Ms. Constand’s further education.

Oh, and check post #99 y'all. It was some realness there

I'm riding with innocent until PROVEN guilty but I still ain't forgot about Cos throwing shade at the Black man.

I'm going to watch a ep of Different World tonight and I'm having a veggie dog at Ben's when I'm back in the DMV

Don't cheat!

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/18/arts/bill-cosby-deposition-excerpts.html

Excerpts From Bill Cosby’s Deposition
Over the course of four days in 2005 and 2006, Bill Cosby answered questions posed to him by a lawyer for a woman, Andrea Constand, who said Mr. Cosby had drugged and molested her. In the questioning, conducted by Ms. Constand’s lawyer, Dolores M. Troiani, Mr. Cosby denied that he had sexually assaulted Ms. Constand or other women who surfaced during that case with their own accounts of being preyed upon by Mr. Cosby. But he did acknowledge that he had used powerful sedatives to lure women for sex and employed multiple strategies to keep his wife, Camille, from finding out. JULY 18, 2015 RELATED ARTICLE

Views on Women and Sex

After describing what he depicts as a sexual encounter with Andrea Constand, Mr. Cosby explains in part why he viewed it as consensual.

I walk her out. She does not look angry. She does not say to me, don’t ever do that again. She doesn’t walk out with an attitude of a huff, because I think that I’m a pretty decent reader of people and their emotions in these romantic sexual things, whatever you want to call them.
Asked if he ever talked with anyone else about what he described as his physical interaction with Ms. Constand, Mr. Cosby says he never discusses such things.

I am a man, the only way you will hear about who I had sex with is from the person I had it with.

Q. Why is that?

A. When I was a boy it was a thing that girls used to say, please don’t tell anybody. But it is something that I’ve learned as you grow older that they’re the first people to go and tell somebody after something has happened.
Mr. Cosby was asked to talk about his relationship with Beth Ferrier, one of the women who has accused him of drugging her. Ms. Ferrier has said that in the mid-1980s, after a brief consensual affair with the entertainer had ended, she met him before a performance in Denver, drank some coffee that he gave her, felt woozy and woke up in a car with her clothes a mess and her bra undone.

Q. What was your relationship with her?

A. We had sex and we had dinners and sex and rendezvous.

Q. What are rendezvous?

A. Rendezvous is when you call somebody and say, do you want to be at such and such and they say yes and you go there.

Q. Is there sexual contact associated with the rendezvous?

A. There was with Beth every time.

Q. Where did these rendezvous occur?

A. I don’t remember.

Q. Do you know the cities?

A. Denver for sure.

Q. Do you know if any of the rendezvous happened in New York City?

A. I don’t remember.

Q. How did it end with her?

A. Stopped calling for rendezvous.

Q. You stopped?

A. Yes.

Q. Why?

A. Just moving on.

Q. What does that mean?

A. Don’t want to see her anymore.
After some debate with Mr. Cosby’s lawyer, Ms. Troiani continued her questioning:

Q. You said just moving on. What did you mean by that?

A. Changing.

Q. Had you decided to stop having extramarital affairs?

A. No.
Later Ms. Troiani asked Mr. Cosby to respond to Ms. Ferrier’s account of an earlier time when, after a dinner in Manhattan, she went back to Mr. Cosby’s New York City home with several people and stayed behind when the other people left.

Q. She says that she stayed with you and that you began talking about her career and asking about her father who had died of cancer. Does any of that ring a bell with you?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you remember talking about that?

A. Yes.

Q. Do you remember what else you talked about?

A. That’s enough.

Q. Did you ask her those questions because you wanted to have sexual contact with her?

A. Yes.
Obtaining Drugs

Mr. Cosby acknowledges in the deposition that he secured seven prescriptions for Quaaludes in the 1970s over a period of two to three years from a Los Angeles doctor. He says that, while he told the doctor he had a sore back, he imagined that the doctor understood that he was not using them to treat his pain.

Q. You testified that he knew you were not going to take them. And I’d like to -- explain your answer. How did he know that, or why do you say he knew that?

A. What was happening at that time was that that was -- Quaaludes happen to be the drug that kids, young people were using to party with and there were times when I wanted to have them just in case.
Mr. Cosby says he never took the Quaaludes himself because they made him sleepy and because he was using them in his efforts to have sex with women. He also says that, with the exception of one glass of beer, he stopped drinking alcohol when he was 16.

Q. Why didn’t you ever take the Quaaludes?

A. Because I used them.

Q. For what?

A. The same as a person would say have a drink.
A Testy Defendant

Though he shows flashes of jocularity, Mr. Cosby is often testy under questioning, as in one sequence where Ms. Troiani asks him about the account of Therese Serignese, who says she could not have consented to the sex she had with Mr. Cosby one night in Las Vegas because she was incapacitated after taking Quaaludes he had given her. Mr. O’Connor, below, is Patrick O’Connor, Mr. Cosby’s lawyer.

Now, would you agree with me if she’s right that this incident of you meeting her when she was 19, then you would be in your late 30s, early 40s at that time?

MR. O’CONNOR: Well, it’s 1976.

THE WITNESS: I was born in 1937.

MS. TROIANI: Q. Would you agree with me that would place you around 39, 40?

A. Do the math.
In another instance, Ms. Troiani, after some debate with Mr. O’Connor about her line of questioning, asks Mr. Cosby about his state of mind after getting off the telephone with Ms. Serignese years later.

Q. Now, what do you think about? Do you have a problem answering that question?

A. I was waiting for you to stop talking.

Q. Okay. What did you think about?

A. Am I allowed to think?
Mr. Cosby at one point acknowledges to Ms. Troiani that his chef met Andrea Constand when she visited Mr. Cosby’s Pennsylvania home, and Ms. Troiani proceeds to ask some questions about the chef.

Q. Have you spoken to him about the accusations that Andrea has made in this case?

A. Yes.

Q. When was that?

A. I don’t recall.

Q. What was the conversation?

A. My lawyers wanted to talk to him.

Q. Did you say anything else to him?

A. No.

Q. Why did he leave your employ?

A. That’s confidential.

Q. What do you mean it’s confidential?

A. Look it up in the dictionary. I’m getting a little tired.
Hiding From His Wife

At several junctures in the deposition, Mr. Cosby describes how he tried to keep his wife, Camille, from finding out about the women he had been pursuing and, by his account, having sex with. In one instance, he describes how he once planned to pay for Ms. Constand’s educational expenses, not through a foundation he had established that provides education grants, but by “our writing a check.”

Q. And our being who?

A. The family.

Q. Would your wife know about that?

A. That’s family. My wife would not know it was because Andrea and I had had sex and that Andrea was now very, very upset and that she decided that she would like to go to school or whatever it is. We can get back on track.

Q. How would you explain to your wife that you were giving this personally as opposed to using the foundation?

A. I would say to her that there is a person I would like to help.
At another point, Mr. Cosby describes how he routed a payment to Therese Serignese, the woman who said she had been taken advantage of while drugged in Las Vegas, through his agent at the William Morris Agency. He says the agency sent Ms. Serignese $5,000 and he reimbursed them.

Q. And did that come from your personal account or from the business?

A. That’s from my personal account.

Q. So, was the purpose of that to disguise --

A. Yes.

Q. I have to finish my question. Was to disguise that you were paying the money to Theresa?

A. Yes.

Q. And the reason you were doing -- who were you preventing from knowing that?

A. Mrs. Cosby.

All that money and prestige and opportunity to do real good.
But instead spends a majority of his time drugging women, raping women, moving money for cover ups, lying, hiding, etc. Shit sounds way immature, destructive, and overly stressful ... how a man with that many demons didn't keel over and have a heart attack already is beyond me.

based on what he said, maybe IDK now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrwz-wFImSc

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if someone posts the transcripts maybe I'll look. but why would I nee DL hughley's take? has anyone asked what Ja Rule thinks?

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the Ja Rule comparison. Or at least ask for a breakdown

Then again, you've repeatedly made it obvious that you don't much care for factual data

Do you

accusations of 40+ women.

DL hughley neither adds to or subtracts from 40 people b.

if he has something important to say, someone will type it out.

I'll live.

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During a radio interview a few hrs ago, even. And Cos had that interview suppressed - it never aired.

cool.

after seeing the AP video I dunno why THIS would push anyone over the edge, but some people are just especially delusional

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"Get ready..for your blessing..."

if you hear 40 women say something and you're like "nah"

then DL Hughley says "he was kind of a dick when I brought it up" and you're like, wow, maybe it really happened BRO YOU'RE A MISOGYNIST THINK IT OVER

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http://time.com/3969305/bill-cosby-playboy-case/

you know, unless you think DL Hughley is a more reliable source than the actual victims

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"Who cares, it's old news."

How else are people going to try and spin this?

so, I assume pretty much anything works

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this whole thing is a damn shame.


Will we ever have a famous Black man who goes out gracefully or will they all be killed, torn to pieces or die broke?

and everything to do with shitty people like y'all

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You need to get a horse tranquilizer stat.

Also, watch your mouth

it has nothing to do with DL Hughley or anyone else. it has to do with you being a shitty person. anyone who needs a DL Hughley cosign on anything to figure out what the truth is, should be locked away permanently.

unless of course I am unaware of DL Hughley's lengthy and extensive credentials as an investigator of sex crimes?
no?

ok then.

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Thumb thuggin

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of the shitty position he's taken by not believing the evidence directly in front of him.



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I don't even need to expound now. I'm sure he'll reply to this post with 'yeah, I know that's right!'

able to rape all these white women in the 60's and 70's and get away with it. He wasn't THAT powerful then.

b. you didn't need to be especially powerful then. you don't need to be powerful to do it now. people do not believe women. they didn't then, they don't now.



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Including a lot of these women he took advantage of

for just looking at a white woman.

But I'm guessing Hollywood was a totally different world from all of that.

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