i really should have addressed that first cuz I read all the responses and no one was coming from there

people are admitting to their experience, but the fact you that seem to be inferring pride in those stories is a bit telling, imo

so it sounds like your real issue with those folks is that they aren't expressing shame. so basically if someone doesn't say they are ashamed, you are automatically assuming they are proud?

because i generally agree with you. sex is sex. it isn't anything to be proud about...however, i also believe it isn't anything to be ashamed of, either. You seem to only be focused on one side of that though.

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