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183427, Foh with nice things...I'm trying to get free
Posted by afrogirl_lost, Thu Oct-29-15 06:58 PM
>>Act like what??
>First for the God knows what time -- no adult acted properly
>in this. Second -- no body is without guilt in this. We know
>what the adults did wrong right? Right!? What about the young
>lady? Her actions are off limits or something? In regard to
>here actions -- how many levels of authority did she go
>through? Teacher asked she refused. Vice Principal asked she
>refused. Gun wielding white person comes in.

The adults are the trained professionals. She is a CHILD who recently lost her mother and was placed in foster care. Anyone working in a school setting should know when a kid is in crisis. Her actions are immaterial.



>By the time a gun wielding white person enters the equation
>how would an African kid react? How would a Chinese kid react?
>How would an Indian kid react? How would an Arab kid react? My
>"feeling" is the kid would comply at that point if it even got
>that far. Maybe I'm wrong, but either way in 2015 after 100's
>of years of the same patterns of behavior among the
>"authorities" there are cultural things we should be teaching
>out kids. Things like "DON'T FUCK AROUND WITH THESE PEOPLE
>THEY CAN AND WILL MURDER YOU". There's a middle eastern family
>telling their kids that right now.

She's African too. Do you mean an African immigrant? Well the Liberian and Malian kids in the two Philly public school I taught in turned up on the daily. So did the Cambodian and Vietnamese kids. Foh with your stereotypical model minority ideals. We don't need to teach our kids to obey authority figures. We need to teach them to be strategic and how to defend themselves against racist attacks.

>The girl didn't do anything besides not
>>giving authority figures her damn cell phone. I'm confused
>as
>>to why people are expecting absolute obedience from a
>fucking
>>teenager. I've taught high school and now college. All kids
>>from 14-20 are jerks. All of them. I've had white girls be
>>openly disrespectful to me in high school and college.
>
>In the high school setting at what point do these girls comply
>or do they ride it out until the guns show up? Serious
>question.

Some complied, some didn't. I never called an administrator to handle anything in my class. That indicates the teacher has poor classroom management skills. I'd ask them to put it away. Some did. The ones who didn't were reminded of the consequence and written up. I then moved on with my lesson. The teacher in this case was an idiot. It's a school, not a prison. Or maybe our public schools are actually prisons these days. Smh.

>Black people need to stop buying into the idea that our kids
>are
>>anymore poorly behaved than others kids.
>
>This isn't my focus, my focus is that our kids are not being
>trained how to deal with what you describe below.


How should we train them. Again, I believe we should teach our kids to be strategic and how to defend themselves. I'm not down with the idea of teaching obedience. They're human beings.


> The only difference
>>is that our kids face higher levels of punishment when they
>>act up.
>
>True. So why aren't our kids acting with this knowledge? Fair
>question no?

Because they're kids, not robots. Kids make mistakes. They do dumb things. They talk back. They forget they're black and have to be more careful, because that kind of thinking is unnatural and just wrong.