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146305, attn, lavender mafia: hands off malcolm x.
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 09:03 AM
i get it. he fucked around w/ men as a young man.

handbook states once you penentrated or been penetrated by another man youre gay forever & ever amen, so i SUPPOSE that means that perhaps the pre-eminent example of Black manhood of the 20th century must be considered a fudge packing butt bandit.

nttiawwt.

that said! i will NOT accept the co-optation of the legacy & OH i see yall launching that shit

his gayness or degree thereof IS a part of the total man...BUT! its not his sum

its not yourn either by the way but we aint talking abt yall, we're talking el hajj malik shabazz right now

fact: he didnt LIVE his life out. whether he was tortured over that or not *I* dunno (havent read the book yet DONT SPOIL IT)

fact: yall want a gay Black civil rights icon?
bayard rustin. richard wright. hell, angela davis did her thing for the ladies.

now yall wanna gorilla pimp malcolm? NOT ON MY WATCH.

thanks!

Definer, Protector and Defender of All Things Black on OKP

146306, huh???
Posted by Big Kuntry, Tue Apr-05-11 09:04 AM
146307, translation:
Posted by mochalox, Tue Apr-05-11 09:06 AM
Bin doesn't wanna put Malcolm on the ghey list.
146308, thats not it @ all.
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 09:10 AM
im saying if theres a gay Black rushmore...this new info is hyping the gays to elevate the man on up to the #1 spot

im saying he's already GOT a #1 spot...on OUR Black rushmore & dont need to be on yalls

hes ours, not yalls in other words

i mean hes PARTIALLY yalls but majority ours.

etc


do or die

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146309, i forget most of yall dont listen to NPR
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 09:07 AM
summary:
manning marable spent his professional life writing a malcolm x bio. died on the eve of its publication. major bombshells revealed incl. malcolm x engaging in gay for pay as a hustling detroit red in the waaay back. gays rejoicing. bin shutting that shit down. the end.

146310, wtf! You gotta link? That shit don't sound right
Posted by Big Kuntry, Tue Apr-05-11 09:09 AM
146311, That's all been reported before.
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 10:09 AM
146312, Hrm. Does that make him gay tho or even Bi.
Posted by BigReg, Tue Apr-05-11 09:18 AM
>summary:
>manning marable spent his professional life writing a malcolm
>x bio. died on the eve of its publication. major bombshells
>revealed incl. malcolm x engaging in gay for pay as a hustling
>detroit red in the waaay back. gays rejoicing. bin shutting
>that shit down. the end.

I call to mind alot of people who perform sex acts outside of their normal preference to get paid (female porn stars) but nobody would call them gay or even bi. I think it says less about his sexuality but more towards our 'one drop=you gay!' rule no matter the circumstance.

Id have to read the book tho...that's gonna have to wait till summer
146313, barbershop rules, champ
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 09:23 AM
fruitkwan & nem would CLEARLY consider anyone who fucked a man for money or baby powdered a man for money or WHATEVER...gay as elton john

if we're consistent, then malcolm got to be put in that bag as of now, IF thats in fact whats in the book im conclusion hopping like shit w/o a shred of research or actual reading


do or die

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146314, lmao @ fruitkwan
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Apr-05-11 09:27 AM
146315, hilarious.
Posted by belkski, Wed Apr-06-11 07:42 AM
146316, I haven't gotten to that part of the book but
Posted by lovelyone80, Tue Apr-05-11 09:09 AM
I have discussed it on twitter just now.

I am anxious to see what Marable says in regards to this. I don't care either way but it's the big shocker of the book apparently.

But I do know why you posted this...I have no comment. Malcolm X was an activist ahead of his time.

Bless up.
146317, nigga please.
Posted by PlanetInfinite, Tue Apr-05-11 09:09 AM
146318, theres a lonely tubby becky from latvia in a laundromat in chicago
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 09:12 AM
somewhere

shes looking for u

go find her

& then comb your beard u black unibomber looking motherfucker

146319, have fun eating hoagies in your car in front of home depot...
Posted by PlanetInfinite, Tue Apr-05-11 09:17 AM
you chubby old fuck.
146320, lmao
Posted by teefiveten, Tue Apr-05-11 09:18 AM
.
146321, LMAOOO
Posted by Government Name, Tue Apr-05-11 09:24 AM
146322, spring sale, homie. them plastic lawn chairs 3 for $20 HOLLLA
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 09:24 AM
meanwhile u up @ Mclarkeys Pub & Weinie Roast at 4 am on a tuesday eating eggs & drinking lager

holla @ classifieds, fam


146323, Winner: P-Dot-INFINITE....Good match guys.
Posted by Lardlad95, Tue Apr-05-11 10:27 AM

"Jack of all trades, master of none, though ofttimes better than master of one"-Anonymous

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146324, Hot Damn! (c)Pharrell
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Apr-05-11 11:49 AM
.
146325, lmao...............
Posted by d_Benjamin_m, Tue Apr-05-11 02:39 PM
146326, the hypeness is a little off-putting, i agree.
Posted by come on people, Tue Apr-05-11 09:15 AM
i'm prolly gonna cop the book today, but dude being a gay hustler as a young man doesn't make him a gay icon. if anything, the fact that, post-conversion, he lived his life as a conservative heterosexual man flies in the face of that agenda. means you can pick and choose. unless folks -- and by folks, i mean gay folks -- are willing to more deeply embrace fluidity and the idea that someone can basically choose not to live as a gay person in any shape or form.

i never heard dude speak ill of gays & he was cool with james baldwin, so i don't see why folks are so eager to co-opt him as a gay icon. except inasmuch as they want everybody to be gay. :-/

btw did not know richard wright was gay. that's my motherfucker right there. best black writer of the 20th century & i'm tired of ralph ellison getting all the shine that wright should.
146327, ^^^
Posted by 3CardMolly, Tue Apr-05-11 09:22 AM
that fluidity seems to be the major kicker in these kinds of convos. Folks know but don't want to believe it and that "option" starts at a very very young age of liking/wanting affection regardless of boy or girl.
146328, um what?
Posted by come on people, Tue Apr-05-11 09:31 AM
>Folks know but don't want to believe it and that
>"option" starts at a very very young age of liking/wanting
>affection regardless of boy or girl.
146329, RE: um what?
Posted by 3CardMolly, Tue Apr-05-11 10:36 AM
How folks, esp the majority of the LGBTQ community, believe that we are born with sexual orientation, that there is no choice being made despite the fact that small children and babies have no automatic knowledge of male/female when it comes to displaying affection. That that knowledge is learned from parents,media etc and all sexual orientation is developed just like a study (i.e.) we can learn math and develop from various subjects like add/sub basics to calculus, trig quantum etc however we have the option to use them or not. I feel the same goes with sexuality, any of us can sleep with any of us but we make the choice to do so or not to.

*Stop scratching your head, lol* I'm saying that Malcolm Little made the choice to sleep with men just as he made the choice to steal, pimp and conk his hair. When he became Malcolm X he made the choice not to sleep w/anyone else but his WIFE. The man literally went from piece a shit nagger to a prince of hope, change and endurance for his people.
146330, RE: um what?
Posted by come on people, Tue Apr-05-11 11:23 AM
>How folks, esp the majority of the LGBTQ community, believe
>that we are born with sexual orientation, that there is no
>choice being made despite the fact that small children and
>babies have no automatic knowledge of male/female when it
>comes to displaying affection. That that knowledge is learned
>from parents,media etc and all sexual orientation is developed
>just like a study (i.e.) we can learn math and develop from
>various subjects like add/sub basics to calculus, trig quantum
>etc however we have the option to use them or not. I feel the
>same goes with sexuality, any of us can sleep with any of us
>but we make the choice to do so or not to.

oh....yea....no. lol. there are both innate and environmental factors to sexuality, to be sure. and as such, some of us have an innate tendency towards one or the other. to use your examples, some of us naturally have a higher aptitude for math than others. to assert that sexuality is wholly a choice.....nah that's not even close to what i'm saying & i don't want it to be mistaken that i in any way agree with that.

if dude was bisexual, which i'm not even necessarily agreeing to, he decided to roll w/the more conventional sex rather than dudes. as such i'd question his salience as a new gay icon. i don't think he is or should be.
146331, RE: um what?
Posted by 3CardMolly, Tue Apr-05-11 11:29 AM
yeah that top part was my personal thought on it.
146332, Completely agree
Posted by zuma1986, Tue Apr-05-11 09:29 AM
You can't be a gay icon if denied it and displayed no signs of gay culture. Liberace denied his gayness but his was very much in line with gay culture, Malcolm not so much.
146333, Maybe he shoulda kept his hands off of them.
Posted by Frank Longo, Tue Apr-05-11 09:18 AM
Zing!

No good can come of this post, btw.
146334, lol *facepalm explosion*
Posted by PlanetInfinite, Tue Apr-05-11 09:27 AM
146335, Too late! He was bisexual, like so many young brothers scared to say so.
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 09:42 AM
This is a call for conscious, lightskin black men from Detroit to Atlanta to embrace their non-heterosexuality. Let it out--the honorable Malcolm suppressed it so that you won't have to!!

146336, why do you want every male to be gay?
Posted by ChuckFoPrez, Tue Apr-05-11 09:46 AM
146337, lol
Posted by PlanetInfinite, Tue Apr-05-11 09:50 AM
146338, Why are you so desperate for that to be the case??
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 09:55 AM
Like, wtf makes you think that I want YOUR ASS to be gay??
146339, Man...you so faggoty is sickening. Malcom wasn't gay
Posted by Doobie Gillis, Tue Apr-05-11 10:03 AM
you are. you spunk swallowing bitch.
146340, You are a shiftless, slothful setback to the Black community
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 10:09 AM
You belong on a plantation, not in this post. Bye nigga!
146341, Bitch you belong in fucking quarantine you aids sneezing queer
Posted by Doobie Gillis, Tue Apr-05-11 10:13 AM
146342, Where is your overseer?? FrankLongo, restrain him!!
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 10:32 AM
.
146343, Girl stop!
Posted by Doobie Gillis, Tue Apr-05-11 10:40 AM
im sorry the white man turned you queer. you should study where that shit came from originally.
146344, Oh, I see Quad's been rubbing off on you.
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 11:03 AM
Litrally, huh?
146345, you will not insult my homey like that.
Posted by come on people, Tue Apr-05-11 11:24 AM
146346, I know, I wouldn't wish that on anybody. Sorry Quad!
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 11:45 AM
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146347, gentlemen, please! no gay on gay violence here.
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 11:25 AM
when yall argue, your letting bama power win


do or die

holla @ survey, fam:
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146348, this whole exchange just made me sad IRL...
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Apr-05-11 11:51 AM
like...how does it get to THIS point, lol.
146349, !
Posted by The_Red_Ninja_Turtle, Tue Apr-05-11 11:16 PM
146350, i'm mad you don't find me sexy :(
Posted by ChuckFoPrez, Wed Apr-06-11 07:44 AM
146351, NOPE! bayard is yours. malcolm is minezzzz nm
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 09:49 AM

do or die

holla @ survey, fam:
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146352, Sounds pretty gay ^^^^^^^
Posted by zuma1986, Tue Apr-05-11 09:58 AM
146353, i dont see a negative in being gay u homophobe
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 10:16 AM
perhaps u should cry in your desire for all this bin lovin

146354, Lol it was a joke get over yourself
Posted by zuma1986, Tue Apr-05-11 10:22 AM
There was no fear of gays in statement so it's not homophobic
146355, Bayard is mine, Malcolm is mine, and if I can dig somethin up on MLK
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 10:05 AM
that brotha's gonna be mine too! He already has some major indicators of a homo past:
1. Lived in Atlanta
2. Went to Morehouse
3. Intelligent/well-put together/not shiftless
4. Heavily involved in the church
5. Looooved him some D.C.

He's just a tranny incident away from Teddy Pendergrass status. forte, get to diggin!!
146356, dont make me clothesline u dude nm
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 10:17 AM

do or die

holla @ survey, fam:
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146357, they were yours despite their sexuality just as they are mine
Posted by 3CardMolly, Tue Apr-05-11 10:58 AM
brother how you get so hung up(pun partially intended) on THAT?
146358, LOL. i can dig it.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 11:26 AM
146359, Err ummm
Posted by Shelly, Tue Apr-05-11 01:30 PM
SHE !!!! The transexual is now a she dammit, respect her change. Anyhow, you are wrong on Teddy Pendergrass the transexual wasn't in the car for Teddy.
146360, LOL
Posted by come on people, Tue Apr-05-11 09:53 AM
>This is a call for conscious, lightskin black men from
>Detroit to Atlanta to embrace their non-heterosexuality.

I know that was tongue-in-cheek.

But is this also a call for these young men to convert to orthodox Islam and live strictly heterosexual married lives afterwards?
146361, Like I said, brother Malcolm went through it so we wouldn't have to!
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 10:16 AM
We no longer have to wear bowties, sell beanpies, or force ourselves to eat some Muslim woman's box. We are free now :-D



146362, meh.
Posted by come on people, Tue Apr-05-11 10:20 AM
i know that was tongue-in-cheek, too, but it's interesting how the rhetorical shift is subtly from his being bisexual to his "freeing" young men from "having" to have sex w/women. well, if he were bisexual, he didn't choose the guy side at the end of the day. if anything, the example would be one that, even if one does have an attraction for dudes as well as ladies, he doesn't have to roll w/the dudes at the end of the day.
146363, None of that matters. Once you perform a gay act, you are gay.
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 10:35 AM
Just ask OKP. I think knowing that Malcolm had a gay phase, and thus was gay, will be liberating for young reds everywhere.
146364, BAIT BATTLE!
Posted by KangolLove, Tue Apr-05-11 09:54 AM
146365, this is a battle!
Posted by teefiveten, Tue Apr-05-11 09:57 AM
i miss that video :(
146366, .
Posted by AbdulJaleel, Tue Apr-05-11 10:16 AM
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146367, So what you're saying is that I can deep throat every nigga on the block
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 10:30 AM
five days a week, lettin my tongue caress every crevice of the cock, like it's my fulltime JOB. And then, when I'm done, I can take shahada--and suddenly I'll be straight? How convenient! I guess Malcolm was on to something. His wisdom and leadership continue to inspire me, even from beyond the grave!
146368, .
Posted by AbdulJaleel, Tue Apr-05-11 10:44 AM
.
146369, why str8?
Posted by 3CardMolly, Tue Apr-05-11 10:54 AM
what if sex simply aint that important when walking in faith and getting to know and understand your maker?
146370, yet he made the choice to only sleep w/his wife
Posted by 3CardMolly, Tue Apr-05-11 10:50 AM
and not many brothers be them gay/bi or str8 can hold up to monogamy, yet you would have us believe that aside from the pork, whitewomenfetish, cocain, heroin and conking that the d*ck had that much of a strong hold on him????

This whole well he was gay/bi and thats just it is beyond narrow minded and I doubt a man who had no problem taking on the convictions of the religious group he looked up to and the minister he damn near worshipped as a father, would've felt a need to deny himself such a personal truth.
Considering he kept company in the majority of men and had access to a past that supported gay/bi lifestyle he could've easily dipped off but its apparent that THAT was not his desire.

To even stir that pot shows an agenda.
146371, Sorry, but I'm not interested in your crazy hetero agenda.
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 10:57 AM
Perhaps you should address comeonepeople, I'm sure he'd entertain your comments!

146372, so damn the fact that he was great leader/speaker/activist
Posted by 3CardMolly, Tue Apr-05-11 11:16 AM
all you can narrowly see about MX is that he was gay/bi??? REALLY nagga??? Like how is you willing to campaign that folks shouldn't judge you or anyone else for who you/they sleep with yet hold high your heroes based on who they sleep/slept with? U gotta a lotta 4facededness going.

146373, Girl!
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 11:47 AM
146374, Goldy Goldy GOLDY!
Posted by 3CardMolly, Tue Apr-05-11 11:57 AM
146375, RE: attn, lavender mafia: hands off malcolm x.
Posted by Mgmt, Tue Apr-05-11 09:53 AM
>i get it. he fucked around w/ men as a young man.
>
>handbook states once you penentrated or been penetrated by
>another man youre gay forever & ever amen, so i SUPPOSE that
>means that perhaps the pre-eminent example of Black manhood of
>the 20th century must be considered a fudge packing butt
>bandit.
>
>nttiawwt.
>
>that said! i will NOT accept the co-optation of the legacy &
>OH i see yall launching that shit
>
>his gayness or degree thereof IS a part of the total
>man...BUT! its not his sum
>
>its not yourn either by the way but we aint talking abt yall,
>we're talking el hajj malik shabazz right now
>
>fact: he didnt LIVE his life out. whether he was tortured over
>that or not *I* dunno (havent read the book yet DONT SPOIL
>IT)
>
>fact: yall want a gay Black civil rights icon?
>bayard rustin. richard wright. hell, angela davis did her
>thing for the ladies.
>
>now yall wanna gorilla pimp malcolm? NOT ON MY WATCH.
>
>thanks!
>
>Definer, Protector and Defender of All Things Black on OKP
>
>
146376, From the information I heard it sounded like he was
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 10:08 AM
hustling for pay. I don't know that this makes him gay. There are a lot of str8 cats that do gay for pay kind of work.

That said, he very may have been bisexual OR gay. Aint no way of knowing for sure I suppose.

Maybe there is.

Either way I don't care. It doesn't change who he is.
146377, .
Posted by AbdulJaleel, Tue Apr-05-11 10:13 AM
.
146378, I'm not sure what kind of information one source is
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 10:15 AM
good for or if he's the kind of person that would want to talk about such things at all let alone at Jummah
146379, .
Posted by AbdulJaleel, Tue Apr-05-11 10:23 AM
.
146380, oh
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 10:27 AM
146381, somebody on that Bruce Perry
Posted by AbdulJaleel, Tue Apr-05-11 10:33 AM
>
146382, i'm more interested...
Posted by come on people, Tue Apr-05-11 10:14 AM
...in the idea that he was actually in lansing, mich., at the time that he was supposedly becoming a major hustler in NYC.

or in the details of his attempts to get a UN resolution against the USA for racism.

or in the notion that NYPD & the FBI knew he was about to be assassinated & let it happen.

the idea that he was a gay hustler in his early 20's....meh. same folks saying that a dude can do gay for pay porn & not be gay are claiming malcom as gay because he did gay for pay stuff. interesting story, as are the tales of MLK's sexcapades on the road, inasmuch as they paint a more complete picture. but MLK isn't now a poster child for swingers, is he?
146383, Exactly. That's where I'm at with it.
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 10:18 AM
146384, that was my impression but then
Posted by lovelyone80, Tue Apr-05-11 10:19 AM
it brings up that age old debate...can a straight man really be gay for pay? and I feel that they can't.

and some feel they can.

so in this case of Malcolm X, do they people who believe straight men can be gay for pay think this might be the case with Malcolm?
146385, I think in the right circumstances humans are capable
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 10:44 AM
of either surviving or acting out just about anything.
146386, pretty much
Posted by 3CardMolly, Tue Apr-05-11 11:19 AM
146387, that's the issue I am having...
Posted by lovelyone80, Tue Apr-05-11 12:00 PM
I never saw this as a survivor issue...because as I am reading the book, Malcolm had other ways to survive (hustling, stealing, sleeping with women...white girl was tricking on Malcolm), so I wonder if its' a

1. I'm sleeping with men as a last resort for money OR
2. I like men, I like sex, I like money. This is the easiest way.

If that makes sense. I never got the sense that Malcolm was down and out and had no other way. That's why I can't roll with the Malcolm was gay for pay. If push comes to shove, I believe most 100% straight men will steal or what have you before sleeping with another man for money.

This is my personal belief. I realize I could be wrong. But I know a lot of men who have been down and out and the decisions they made. The men I know who made the latter are bi-curious at the very least.

But let's just see how this chapter plays out.
146388, We can't know.
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 12:03 PM
We just can't know. I can't wait to cop the book on audible.
146389, True. True.
Posted by lovelyone80, Tue Apr-05-11 12:24 PM
so since we can't know...let it flow (c) Toni Braxton
146390, im most offended the term lavender is associated with homosexuality
Posted by atruhead, Tue Apr-05-11 10:25 AM
I mean, have you SMELLED lavender hand soap

if that's gay, bend me over and call me an okp troll
146391, i'll never believe that X was "gay 4 pay",
Posted by isaaaa, Tue Apr-05-11 10:33 AM
that's just bullshit used to emasculate dude and if Marable published that shit then its probably best he's dead.

A gay prostitute, just fucking sick and non-factual. Aint shit sacred to the American Black-man anymore I see.


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146392, Please, there are worse things than sucking dick and getting paid
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 10:44 AM
Like sucking dick and NOT getting paid. Where dem dollaz at!(c)____ __
146393, ^^Things Faggots say for $300^^
Posted by Doobie Gillis, Tue Apr-05-11 10:45 AM
146394, Damn, so we just calling Malcolm out of his name now. smh!
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 10:47 AM
I knew this day would come.
146395, Bitch dont disrespect...I'm talking to YOU
Posted by Doobie Gillis, Tue Apr-05-11 10:55 AM
146396, No you aint!
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 11:12 AM
>
146397, Chill with that faggot stuff, you wouldn't call him that offline.
Posted by isaaaa, Tue Apr-05-11 02:27 PM
Goldmind is crazy as fuck, but he's wicked smart!


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146398, Id call that nigga a bitch to his face and whoever in the room
Posted by Doobie Gillis, Tue Apr-05-11 02:41 PM
with him. fuck he gonna do, cry?
146399, ^ nuff said
Posted by Mr Church Hill, Tue Apr-05-11 10:47 AM
146400, headed to the masjid now
Posted by AbdulJaleel, Tue Apr-05-11 10:51 AM
And I hit up Z. Ali

Im getting to the bottom of this
146401, That joke is sitting out there, dog. Edit. Edit!
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 10:55 AM
146402, what joke?
Posted by AbdulJaleel, Tue Apr-05-11 11:09 AM
146403, getting to the BOTTOM of it. Whose the top?
Posted by lovelyone80, Tue Apr-05-11 12:00 PM
146404, Me too, chile!
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 10:59 AM
>And I hit up Z. Ali
>
>Im getting to the bottom of this
146405, there is special place in hell for you homie
Posted by AbdulJaleel, Tue Apr-05-11 11:17 AM
Enjoy your foolishness while you can.
146406, wat.
Posted by atruhead, Tue Apr-05-11 11:30 AM
146407, Will I be awaited by 72 virgin tops?!
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 11:39 AM
Will Freeway be there?
146408, u got folk mad as shit in here, fam...
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Apr-05-11 11:59 AM
wow
146409, A post aint a POAST until a radical Muslim damns you to hell
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 12:12 PM
Good thing I'm too tickled to be disturbed. lol
146410, ok, but if u hear "GET YO HAND OUT MY POCKET!!!"
Posted by tex, Tue Apr-05-11 12:41 PM
run, son
***************************************
rosemary's babydaddy
***************************************
146411, you get peach-faced boys, actually
Posted by thrill, Tue Apr-05-11 12:45 PM
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TO3H7GH8RLNP9B3DG

146412, A gaggle of Caucasian twinks--that IS hell!!
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 01:33 PM
>http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TO3H7GH8RLNP9B3DG
>
>
146413, hahahahaha
Posted by thrill, Tue Apr-05-11 07:34 PM
dude, you're the best.

and the 72 virgins have transparent skin, which has always disturbed me, like even if someone likes honkies, transparent sounds a bit scary.

146414, lol
Posted by guru0509, Tue Apr-05-11 08:50 PM
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146415, Ah. Finally, a Muslim Case_One moment.
Posted by Backbone, Tue Apr-05-11 12:09 PM
Except it's not nearly as backhanded as Case_One would make it. Props for that.
146416, Awww, You care too much...
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 12:21 PM
146417, So you *do* know how to apply the concept of sarcasm. Interesting.
Posted by Backbone, Tue Apr-05-11 12:24 PM
146418, I try not to, don't want to give you a complex
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 01:04 PM
146419, considering how f'd up he was...
Posted by 3CardMolly, Tue Apr-05-11 11:26 AM
it's not surprising, for goodnesssake as a boy he was being paid to bang whiteboys sisters while they watch. Malcolm X definitly had a Saul to Paul thing going on.
146420, RE: considering how f'd up he was...
Posted by isaaaa, Tue Apr-05-11 02:30 PM
Ahhh...true, but I just can't imagine that shit being considered fact. Oh well, ain't no love or respect lost.


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146421, this post has it all
Posted by atruhead, Tue Apr-05-11 10:54 AM
p inf vs. bin

doobie gillis vs. goldmind

abduljaleel headed to conduct an investigative report

good show, all
146422, ^^^^^^
Posted by CrookedIsland, Tue Apr-05-11 11:21 AM
146423, I'm Entertained. © Nopayne
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 11:21 AM
146424, RE: this post has it all
Posted by d_Benjamin_m, Tue Apr-05-11 02:41 PM
146425, this shouldn't be that shocking if you read the Haley bio
Posted by hardware, Tue Apr-05-11 10:57 AM

at one point he gets so far down its not that much of a stretch
146426, yeah. i'm not sure why this is news.
Posted by used to be abby, Tue Apr-05-11 11:31 AM
,
146427, because it's in a book.
Posted by bfnh, Tue Apr-05-11 11:43 AM
146428, there you go, speaking that TRUTH
Posted by SankofaII, Tue Apr-05-11 01:22 PM
146429, Maybe I overlooked it or blocked it out but I can't remember any...
Posted by Big Kuntry, Tue Apr-05-11 11:52 AM
alleged gay shit in the book
146430, its not outright. you can read between the lines though
Posted by hardware, Tue Apr-05-11 11:58 AM
out of all the shit he did in his escapades and where he ended up before his jail time, you can imagine he'd do something like that.

this whole controversy isn't that big of a stretch
146431, yup. it fits in with his wilding out/freaky stage
Posted by dafriquan, Tue Apr-05-11 01:47 PM
i don't think the brother was gay though.
146432, it's definitely mentioned in The Judas Factor
Posted by Scrapluv, Tue Apr-05-11 01:52 PM
146433, The Gaying of Black American Male icons is Amazing.
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:21 AM
Homosexuals seem to want to be able to claim that someone of significant status, stature, and platform is or was Gay and for what? What's the point?
146434, yeah. Manning Marable is part of the "Gay Agenda" ®
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 11:25 AM
146435, So you agree with others that there is a "Gay Agenda" ®
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:27 AM
146436, nigga shut yo ass up.
Posted by PlanetInfinite, Tue Apr-05-11 11:28 AM
146437, P-IF, Do you believe that there's a "Gay Agenda" too?
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:33 AM
I'm just asking.
146438, *woosh*
Posted by come on people, Tue Apr-05-11 11:30 AM
146439, An Amazing Grace!
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 11:30 AM
How lucky we are, thanks to the work of scholars such as Manning Marable, to finally know the truth about our Black male heroes. Although the mask should have been lifted a long time ago. We deserve to know who we're dealing with--so we can make informed decisions!
146440, So you think Malcom X was in the closet untill he died?
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:37 AM
146441, Yes.
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 11:41 AM
>
146442, Why?
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:42 AM
146443, Why not?
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 11:50 AM
>
146444, Why does his being rumored to be gay important to you?
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:57 AM
What does it do for you?
146445, ^^^^^
Posted by Mr Church Hill, Tue Apr-05-11 12:02 PM
146446, Not to speak for Goldmind or homosexuals, but
Posted by Backbone, Tue Apr-05-11 12:12 PM
if it pisses people like you off, I'm ALL FOR IT.
146447, Because we have a right to know who we are dealing with
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 12:17 PM
So that we can make informed decisions.
146448, But a what do it do for you - personally ?
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 12:24 PM
Do you or anyone presently have to deal with Malcolm X, so that they can make an informed decision? I think not, so your logic is off basis.

Just answer the Subject question.
146449, The SAME thing NFL player Wade Davis' coming out did for you
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 12:44 PM
Have you so soon forgotten that we have the RIGHT to know the truth about another person's sexuality, no matter what?

You stated it best: http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=10222749&mesg_id=10222749&listing_type=search#10222854

I'll never meet Malcolm X, just as you'll never meet Wade Davis. So why was it important for you to know his sexual orientation?

146450, advantage- goldmind
Posted by thegodcam, Tue Apr-05-11 12:56 PM
146451, Ahhh, but Wade Davis is still alive
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 01:01 PM
Ans someone does have to deal with him on a daily basis, thus requiring that people be able to make informed decisions about his current life. Current, Living being the key factors.

So, as I said you logic concerning Malcolm X is flawed.
146452, Your brain cells need a healing.
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 01:14 PM
Have a blessed day.
146453, Maybe I'm wrong and you can communicate with dead people.
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 01:21 PM
If that's the case, then you may be dealing with Mr.X
146454, jesus fucking christ.
Posted by shockzilla, Tue Apr-05-11 01:52 PM
146455, This once we agree.
Posted by isaaaa, Tue Apr-05-11 04:42 PM

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146456, Because they're not in the measuring up game
Posted by RaFromQueens, Tue Apr-05-11 11:10 PM
they're in the tearing down game.
146457, yes!
Posted by used to be abby, Tue Apr-05-11 11:52 AM
>We deserve to know who we're dealing with--so we can
>make informed decisions!
146458, Ok Abby, do you believe that Malcom X was homosexual unitl he died?
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:55 AM
146459, who are all these other icons being "gayed"?
Posted by come on people, Tue Apr-05-11 11:31 AM
i must've missed that.
146460, Hey, every time a Balck man makes it Big people say their gay.
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:35 AM
It's always a rumor for entertainers, public figures , and such.
146461, it ain't just blacks or men.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 11:36 AM
and it ain't just the gays doing this rumoring.

146462, I never said it was..
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:39 AM
I just chose to focus on one segment of the Black community.

It amazes me that people seem to always want to got for the "They do it too" logic.
146463, there's no conspiracy to emasculate black leaders via gay rumors, homie.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 11:44 AM
that's the point of my 'they do it too' here.

146464, there's no conspiracy to emasculate black leaders via gay rumors?
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:49 AM
I disagree. They", will try to discredited and emasculate the Black man by any means necessary. That's a fact. And if a rumor about being gay will work, bets believe it's being and has been used.
146465, yeah, the conspirators also want us to believe Gaga has a penis.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 11:51 AM
and that Rod Stewart swallowed a gallon of semen. and Richard Gere likes gerbils up his ass. and that Travolta and Cruise hide their homosexuality behind Scientology.

and on and on.

you're totally right.
146466, Like I said, I was just focusing o the American Black Male
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:54 AM
Since Black males are in the most desperate situation when it comes to positive masculine heterosexual male role models.
146467, mm-hmm, honey.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 11:55 AM
that's right!
146468, LOL
Posted by Goldmind, Tue Apr-05-11 11:59 AM
146469, I'm flattered but not interested..
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 12:03 PM
Don't call me Honey...lol

Reminds me of the time I call a young lady on here "Baby" as a term of endearment and she said I disrespected her because I don't know her off-line.

They tried to crucify me. I bet the won't do the same to you though.

Now, I don't know you off line and If i didn't I still don't want some dude calling me Honey. Period.

LOL
146470, my bad, sweetie.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 12:05 PM
i should treat you w/more respect, dumpling. cuz you're a peach.

excuse me, a stallion.

onward, Christian soldier.

RAWWR.
146471, I love this thread.
Posted by Backbone, Tue Apr-05-11 12:14 PM
146472, God Bless your heart.
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 12:26 PM
146473, He has!
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 12:43 PM
146474, HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Posted by MsBliss, Tue Apr-05-11 12:50 PM
>i should treat you w/more respect, dumpling. cuz you're a
>peach.
>
>excuse me, a stallion.
>
>onward, Christian soldier.
>
>RAWWR.
146475, that "emasculation" shit is for you and YOUR ppl, Case.
Posted by BlaizeBlack26, Tue Apr-05-11 12:11 PM
YOU believe that there is something wrong with homosexuals, and that women are not equal. you all demonize femininity on a daily basis which is why "emasculation" is so "damaging," and some of your women LOVE IT (simultaneously sad and hilarious.)
146476, HA.. what a stretch
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 12:29 PM
>YOU believe that there is something wrong with homosexuals,
>and that women are not equal. you all demonize femininity on a
>daily basis which is why "emasculation" is so "damaging," and
>some of your women LOVE IT (simultaneously sad and
>hilarious.)


Wow. This is like reading something that Gary Busey wrote. It makes no scene at all, talking about demonize femininity...lol
146477, i know its hard to admit.
Posted by BlaizeBlack26, Tue Apr-05-11 12:36 PM
146478, Eh.. Well, I guess in your mind ..
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 12:41 PM
http://www.supermegacomics.com/YouGotMe.gif


146479, Yeah, he's used femininity as an insult before
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Tue Apr-05-11 02:24 PM
You only do that if you have a deep disrespect for women in the first place.
146480, AMEN:
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 02:35 PM
>You only do that if you have a deep disrespect for women in
>the first place.
>
146481, And The Devil Is Still A Lie!
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 07:33 PM
146482, Too ashamed to actually deny it directly huh?
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Tue Apr-05-11 08:06 PM
it's sad you're ashamed of your own actions to the point where you have to lie about them. At least others around here can own what they do.

May you one day have enough self esteem to at least own your words as you speak them. It would be nice to one day be able to call someone like me the devil and not have to lie about it elsewhere when someone brings up your hypocritical conduct.

Meanwhile I'm happy for more and more of your conduct to come out of the closet on this forum so that we can all make more informed decisions about you. So please respond as slick as you like (oh, not so many years ago now though is it?).

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=10183020&mesg_id=10183020&listing_type=search#10185675

It's truly great to have you back. May you grow ever more prolific with your conduct. Don't hold back now, judge me the devil again so you can have something else to deny you said later.

146483, Stalker # 4, I'm glad that you're glad..
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 08:39 PM
>it's sad you're ashamed of your own actions to the point
>where you have to lie about them. At least others around here
>can own what they do.
>

Hey, The "Case is a Lie" routine has been played out and debunked. So please come up with another slanderous stance.


>May you one day have enough self esteem to at least own your
>words as you speak them. It would be nice to one day be able
>to call someone like me the devil and not have to lie about it
>elsewhere when someone brings up your hypocritical conduct.
>

Well, you are lying about my motives and my actions; Fact. And the father of lies is the Devil; Fact. To state that the "Devil is a lie", is in fact NOT a lie; it's the truth and a fact. Now since the Devil is the father of lies and you're lying, that might make you his offspring.

BTW, my self-esteem is great. If it wasn't I would be in this hateful place.


>Meanwhile I'm happy for more and more of your conduct to come
>out of the closet on this forum so that we can all make more
>informed decisions about you. So please respond as slick as
>you like (oh, not so many years ago now though is it?).
>


Hey, like I said, I don't think anyone should have to live in the closet; maybe you do, I don't know your stance. But, I say live outside like everybody else and we can all get along by knowing more about one another an stop hiding who we really are.


>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=10183020&mesg_id=10183020&listing_type=search#10185675
>


^^ My name is Case_One and I approve this message.^^


>It's truly great to have you back. May you grow ever more
>prolific with your conduct. Don't hold back now, judge me the
>devil again so you can have something else to deny you said
>later.

Hey, Lying is a Sin. The Devil is a Liar. I suggest that you stop lying and so that you won't be linked to the Devils nature and disposition.


146484, Your name calling is pleasing to me
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Tue Apr-05-11 08:58 PM
Clearly you love the attention, I'm merely ensuring that verily, you have your worldly reward.

>>it's sad you're ashamed of your own actions to the point
>>where you have to lie about them. At least others around
>here
>>can own what they do.
>>
>
>Hey, The "Case is a Lie" routine has been played out and
>debunked. So please come up with another slanderous stance.

And I quote the great Case:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=10257194&mesg_id=10257194&listing_type=search#10257407

"Well that means I need to work on my material and delivery, because I was going for straight obliteration. Hate, was not gonna be good enough..

Now Run with that too."

Oh but:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=10183020&mesg_id=10183020&listing_type=search#10185675

"You've never heard me say not one hateful word against anyone on here, ever. I've said some slick stuff in the past, but that was over a year ago."

May you one day actually be able to own your own self and not have to try to sell it as something else. I really hope you find that peace.


>Well, you are lying about my motives and my actions; Fact. And
>the father of lies is the Devil; Fact. To state that the
>"Devil is a lie", is in fact NOT a lie; it's the truth and a
>fact. Now since the Devil is the father of lies and you're
>lying, that might make you his offspring.

And yet you can't even bring yourself to deny your own words. I hope one day that you can.

>
>BTW, my self-esteem is great. If it wasn't I would be in this
>hateful place.

Be assured that every night, as I fail to lift my eyes to heaven and smite chest on account my sinning and ask for God's mercy, I'll do so knowing how you must be so happy to pray to God that you are not like other men. Verily, may you have your worldly reward.


>Hey, like I said, I don't think anyone should have to live in
>the closet; maybe you do, I don't know your stance. But, I say
>live outside like everybody else and we can all get along by
>knowing more about one another an stop hiding who we really
>are.

Indeed oh wise and great Case, indeed.

>
>
>>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=10183020&mesg_id=10183020&listing_type=search#10185675
>>
>
>
>^^ My name is Case_One and I approve this message.^^

May you one day find the fortitude to keep the rest of your idle words in line with your message.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=10257194&mesg_id=10257194&listing_type=search#10257407

>
>
>>It's truly great to have you back. May you grow ever more
>>prolific with your conduct. Don't hold back now, judge me
>the
>>devil again so you can have something else to deny you said
>>later.
>
>Hey, Lying is a Sin. The Devil is a Liar. I suggest that you
>stop lying and so that you won't be linked to the Devils
>nature and disposition.

God will link me how God will. Hopefully one day you'll find a peace that doesn't rely on such concerns or how many replies or 'stalkers' you have. In the meantime, may you enjoy your worldly rewards with your place at the church door.
146485, This is why you’re Stalker #4 (A Bottom Fail) and not number 3, 2, or 1
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 10:00 PM
>Clearly you love the attention, I'm merely ensuring that
>verily, you have your worldly reward.
>


Dude, maybe you love me more than I care about what you think or believe.


>>>it's sad you're ashamed of your own actions to the point
>>>where you have to lie about them. At least others around
>>here
>>>can own what they do.
>>>
>>
>>Hey, The "Case is a Lie" routine has been played out and
>>debunked. So please come up with another slanderous stance.
>
>And I quote the great Case:
>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=10257194&mesg_id=10257194&listing_type=search#10257407
>
>"Well that means I need to work on my material and delivery,
>because I was going for straight obliteration. Hate, was not
>gonna be good enough..
>
>Now Run with that too."
>
>Oh but:
>



Yes! Yes! Ooooh you got me! ← It’s called Sarcasm. Yes , I sometimes participate in the art of being sarcastic. What? You’re acting like you just found Al Capone’s Vault or something. Dude please.

I stand by ever word I have said. Fact. Point Blank.



>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=10183020&mesg_id=10183020&listing_type=search#10185675
>
>"You've never heard me say not one hateful word against anyone
>on here, ever. I've said some slick stuff in the past, but
>that was over a year ago."
>
>May you one day actually be able to own your own self and not
>have to try to sell it as something else. I really hope you
>find that peace.
>
>


BTW, I have still never said anything hateful. Looks like the Vault is still empty.


>>Well, you are lying about my motives and my actions; Fact.
>And
>>the father of lies is the Devil; Fact. To state that the
>>"Devil is a lie", is in fact NOT a lie; it's the truth and a
>>fact. Now since the Devil is the father of lies and you're
>>lying, that might make you his offspring.
>
>And yet you can't even bring yourself to deny your own words.
>I hope one day that you can.
>
>>
>>BTW, my self-esteem is great. If it wasn't I would be in
>this
>>hateful place.
>
>Be assured that every night, as I fail to lift my eyes to
>heaven and smite chest on account my sinning and ask for God's
>mercy, I'll do so knowing how you must be so happy to pray to
>God that you are not like other men. Verily, may you have your
>worldly reward.
>
>


Doc, you are the one looking for me with the flashlight in the mid-day noon light trying to find out what you can dig up. You are totally laughable. As for your sinning, I could care less what you do, except when you do it concerning me and for that Joe, you darn right I’m going to speak on it. So, sin on all you like, just stop lying on me when you do it. It’s not a good look.



>>Hey, like I said, I don't think anyone should have to live
>in
>>the closet; maybe you do, I don't know your stance. But, I
>say
>>live outside like everybody else and we can all get along by
>>knowing more about one another an stop hiding who we really
>>are.
>
>Indeed oh wise and great Case, indeed.
>


Now you’re the one with issues of confusion. See hat happens when you lie too much. You can’t keep that crap straight. Fist you say that I have low self-esteem. Now you call me Wise and Great.

Dog you stay on something special.




>>
>>
>>>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=10183020&mesg_id=10183020&listing_type=search#10185675
>>>
>>
>>
>>^^ My name is Case_One and I approve this message.^^
>
>May you one day find the fortitude to keep the rest of your
>idle words in line with your message.
>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=10257194&mesg_id=10257194&listing_type=search#10257407
>



The Vault is still open and empty, but for some reason you don’t believe that there’s noting in it. That’s the habit of a stalker. They try to make something happen that just ain’t there.


>>
>>
>>>It's truly great to have you back. May you grow ever more
>>>prolific with your conduct. Don't hold back now, judge me
>>the
>>>devil again so you can have something else to deny you said
>>>later.
>>
>>Hey, Lying is a Sin. The Devil is a Liar. I suggest that you
>>stop lying and so that you won't be linked to the Devils
>>nature and disposition.
>
>God will link me how God will. Hopefully one day you'll find a
>peace that doesn't rely on such concerns or how many replies
>or 'stalkers' you have. In the meantime, may you enjoy your
>worldly rewards with your place at the church door.
>


God will doe what God does and that is a fact. The other fact is that you Sir are a Liar and I will continuer to concern myself with your detestable deeds, as long as you keep perpetuating lies concerning me.

As for being a staler, Duke, you are the on that keeps tolling for post with my name in them, posting in post about my actions, running to post a response to anyone that will listen, trying to cosign anything negative about me, researching post that I have participated in, copying post URL’s, spending time to try and disect any kind of linkage to validate your agenda, but you don’t want to be called a Stalker…. Yeah Ok Stalker #4..

Stalking is a term commonly used to refer to unwanted, obsessive attention by individuals (and sometimes groups of people) to others. Stalking behaviors are related to harassment - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking

146486, RE: This is why you’re Stalker #4 (A Bottom Fail) and not number 3, 2, or 1
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Tue Apr-05-11 10:30 PM

>
>Dude, maybe you love me more than I care about what you think
>or believe.

Your replies say otherwise. May you find the peace to accept in yourself what your replies already expose.


>
>
>Yes! Yes! Ooooh you got me! ← It’s called Sarcasm. Yes ,
>I sometimes participate in the art of being sarcastic. What?
>You’re acting like you just found Al Capone’s Vault or
>something. Dude please.
>
>I stand by ever word I have said. Fact. Point Blank.

May you one day find the peace to let your yes be yes and your no be know, and truly stand by your words rather than trying to divorce yourself of their intent. Otherwise, why else would you hide from calling me feminine in the past, or are you trying to hide from the slick things you admitted you said now? May you live to love yourself better than this.

Perhaps on that day you will better reconcile yourself with what you preach:

http://www.caseministries.com/2008/05/tdw-05-29-08-every-careless-word.html

"But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment." (Matthew 12:36)

Jesus spoke plainly about our idle words, yet His warning often goes unheeded. Jesus said that for every idle word there will be a time of accounting in the day of judgment. We would expect Jesus to condemn profane and vile uses of the tongue, but idle words? Idle words are things we say carelessly, without concern for their impact on others. We too quickly assume that the sins of our tongue are minor sins, sins that God will overlook. Yet Jesus was fully aware of the devastating nature of our words, for the idle words that come from our mouths give a lucid picture of the condition of our heart (Matt. 15:17–20).

The Book of Proverbs encourages us to speak less rather than risk saying something offensive (Prov. 17:28). Often when we have nothing significant to say we are tempted to speak injurious, idle words. The more time we spend in idle chatter, the greater the likelihood that we will say things that are harmful. James cautioned believers to be “swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath” (James 1:19). We are in much less danger of saying something offensive when we are listening than when we are speaking!

Think carefully about the words that come from your mouth. Christians should speak only words that uplift and bring grace to others (Eph. 4:29). Do you need to speak less? Do you need to be more careful about the kind of humor you use? Ask the Holy Spirit to help you evaluate whether your words build up others or whether they destroy and hurt others.


>>
>
>
>BTW, I have still never said anything hateful. Looks like the
>Vault is still empty.

Oh, no coals on the fires of hell in regards to a transsexual either? no sideways calling people false prophets? Keep denying it please. The further you deny yourself the closer we may get to finding you peace in yourself.


>>
>>
>
>
>Doc, you are the one looking for me with the flashlight in the
>mid-day noon light trying to find out what you can dig up. You
>are totally laughable. As for your sinning, I could care less
>what you do, except when you do it concerning me and for that
>Joe, you darn right I’m going to speak on it. So, sin on all
>you like, just stop lying on me when you do it. It’s not a
>good look.

I'm glad I can bring laughter to your world of righteousness. I'm afraid I can't begin to care about what you do and do not tell me to do. Listening to advice from other people on OKP? That's not from the book of Case! I shall choose to do as you do, rather than as you say.

>
>
>
>>>Hey, like I said, I don't think anyone should have to live
>>in
>>>the closet; maybe you do, I don't know your stance. But, I
>>say
>>>live outside like everybody else and we can all get along
>by
>>>knowing more about one another an stop hiding who we really
>>>are.
>>
>>Indeed oh wise and great Case, indeed.
>>
>
>
>Now you’re the one with issues of confusion. See hat happens
>when you lie too much. You can’t keep that crap straight.
>Fist you say that I have low self-esteem. Now you call me Wise
>and Great.

What I call you has no bearing on how you feel about yourself. May you one day reach the discernment of basic reading comprehension. I feel you will find much peace on this day once you can follow a seven word sentence. Much luck to you wise sage!

>
>Dog you stay on something special.

Oh you are too kind.


>
>The Vault is still open and empty, but for some reason you
>don’t believe that there’s noting in it. That’s the habit of
>a stalker. They try to make something happen that just ain’t
>there.

It's a closet, my friend. We'll loose you from it one day!


>
>God will doe what God does and that is a fact. The other fact
>is that you Sir are a Liar and I will continuer to concern
>myself with your detestable deeds, as long as you keep
>perpetuating lies concerning me.

Oh concern yourself with me? Your investment in such a lowly liar and man of detestable deeds pleases me. Since these aren't hateful words, because you never speak those around here, I must surmise they come from an intense love. Oh great Case! What a journey lies before us!

>
>As for being a staler, Duke, you are the on that keeps tolling
>for post with my name in them, posting in post about my
>actions, running to post a response to anyone that will
>listen, trying to cosign anything negative about me,
>researching post that I have participated in, copying post
>URL’s, spending time to try and disect any kind of linkage to
>validate your agenda, but you don’t want to be called a
>Stalker…. Yeah Ok Stalker #4..

Oh, bequeath me the title of lowly Stalker #4 oh wise Case. For surely, a better man wouldn't deem me worthy even of reply. I am heartened by your investment and care in my endeavours, just as you are pleased by my care in your own! Oh happy meeting of intent and circumstance!

>
>Stalking is a term commonly used to refer to unwanted,
>obsessive attention by individuals (and sometimes groups of
>people) to others. Stalking behaviors are related to
>harassment - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking

I am well aware, but thanks for the reminder oh wise one.
146487, Colin Powell!
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 10:33 PM
Dude. And you want to know why I call you a Stalker. SMH..

Kid, the fact that you keep going, searching, picking, digging, is proof enough. I don't even have to read all of what you responded too, I just know you.. Still got those stalker Inboxes that you sent my under both your aliases to know that your are a Class A Classic Stalker. .
146488, Aw don't say that about your The Daily Word blog!
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Tue Apr-05-11 10:42 PM
We shall work on your self esteem so you can look at your blog without feeling shame and face up when you've been smooth shut the fuck down.

Peace be with you Case_One!
146489, Do you know the Devil is a
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 10:50 PM
LIAR!?!?!?

POWA!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEk42o6gXi8#t=1m28s
146490, http://www.gifsoup.com/view/720658/bye-o.gif
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 10:53 PM
"I'm sorry. Stalker #4, You're Still at the Bottom - Bye!"

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/720658/bye-o.gif
146491, I'll wait for the edit, friend
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Tue Apr-05-11 11:04 PM
in the meantime, I hope you can summon the reading comprehension and attention span to discern what I've said, and one day reconcile with yourself.

In the meantime

SSTFD

:)

Peace be with you oh wise one. Don't forget, life is calling... you back here again maybe?
146492, Awww Sad Face:(
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:18 PM
I bet if you call me a really really bad name, you might start hoping that I would start caring what you really think.


The Capone's Vault is still empty homes. ...lol
146493, I only hope that you reply, and you did!
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Wed Apr-06-11 12:00 AM
>I bet if you call me a really really bad name, you might
>start hoping that I would start caring what you really
>think.

You want me to call you a name? Sorry oh wise sage, I'm not on your level yet. God Bless you!
146494, God Bless You too
Posted by Case_One, Wed Apr-06-11 12:07 AM
May His will consume you.
146495, toodles preacher
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Wed Apr-06-11 12:49 AM
hopefully you'll last longer before your own words get the better of you next time? (turning your back on your own blog? Oh dear). But nevermind, there is much time for you. We shall find you the peace you need to accept yourself my good man.
146496, oh you came back?! but you said life is calling
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Tue Apr-05-11 11:02 PM
Shouldn't you shoo? Oh I forget my Case lesson, do as you say and not as you do.

>Dude. And you want to know why I call you a Stalker. SMH..

Knowing that you call me a stalker is enough my friend. Your name calling pleases me. I marvel at the conduct you deem becoming of a minister. More power to you, give us more!

>
>Kid, the fact that you keep going, searching, picking,
>digging, is proof enough. I don't even have to read all of
>what you responded too, I just know you.. Still got those
>stalker Inboxes that you sent my under both your aliases to
>know that your are a Class A Classic Stalker. .

Oh please, release the inboxes from Dr. Seuss oh wise Case. Reveal the ignorance that is a man who couldn't see me owning up to being the same as Seuss in my sig for years, or see the match between Ted Gee Seal and Dr. Seuss. Let us bask in the wise and knowing of a man who would reveal about me things I have already told to everyone else.

Or should I shorten this so I don't hurt your attention span? Wouldn't want to Colin Powell the wise Case who has so many better things to do with his time yet stays here replying to a #4 stalker. It's so kind that you stoop to care though.

146497, Ummmm
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:10 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kjhrXqxc2AA/TQn0ThCJ0_I/AAAAAAAAAx0/jNJssH7Mlho/s1600/tumblr_ld5walRFGd1qci5e2o1_500.jpg

I'm not going to promote you..
146498, But you will keep replying
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Wed Apr-06-11 12:06 AM
And we'll inch ever closer to you gaining peace within yourself. I get to pick my wife up from work and you're still here. Oh joy! I look further to confirmation that lowly stalker number #4 is still on the mind of a man oh so busy with the work of the Kingdom.
146499, aww no inboxes? How do you say it, nothing in the vault?
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Wed Apr-06-11 12:55 AM
I gave you time to edit and everything Case_One, or should that be Octane? Noticed you wouldn't always stand by that either.

But we'll get there friend, peace awaits you!


146500, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEk42o6gXi8#t=1m28s
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 10:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEk42o6gXi8#t=1m28s
146501, Hey FB!
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:01 PM
http://gospelgifs.com/christian_blessings/images/Godbless-008.gif
146502, POWA!
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 11:04 PM
146503, *softly pencils in 'Tyler Perry' in the margins of this post*
Posted by luvlee2003, Tue Apr-05-11 08:09 PM
>YOU believe that there is something wrong with homosexuals,
>and that women are not equal. you all demonize femininity on a
>daily basis which is why "emasculation" is so "damaging," and
>some of your women LOVE IT (simultaneously sad and
>hilarious.)
146504, don't think it's quierd when u c all the rainbows change their avy's
Posted by chi_soul, Tue Apr-05-11 11:25 AM
to "by any means necessary" or some random Malcolm picture, fuckin fags! -and i mean that in the nicest way possible, some of my best friends smoke cock-

P.R.: "Dude, it's not big deal if you like to fuck guys. I'm cool, I got friends who fuck guys...in jail."
146505, Has anyone read the book? is it worth me buying?
Posted by used to be abby, Tue Apr-05-11 11:31 AM
.
146506, what book? TAOMX?
Posted by bibblegolf, Tue Apr-05-11 11:39 AM
146507, Malcolm X: A Life of Reinvention
Posted by used to be abby, Tue Apr-05-11 11:44 AM
.
146508, i think you should read the other one first
Posted by hardware, Tue Apr-05-11 11:50 AM
146509, i did. i'm just wondering if this one is worth the read.
Posted by used to be abby, Tue Apr-05-11 11:55 AM
.
146510, i'm interested
Posted by hardware, Tue Apr-05-11 11:59 AM
i always thought his life was an allegory
so i'm curious to see what this adds
146511, I am reading it now and YES! it's amazing so far.
Posted by lovelyone80, Tue Apr-05-11 12:01 PM
146512, thank you :-)
Posted by used to be abby, Tue Apr-05-11 12:07 PM
.
146513, there's more to being gay than sucking dicks/rubbing backs for money.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 11:38 AM
Malcolm was 1 of those str8 queers. gay 4 pay.

b/c it's pretty queer for a str8 guy to rub and/or powder backs and/or suck dicks for money.
146514, barbershop rules, champ.
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 11:45 AM
if u walk in Eagle barbers on GA Ave on a sat morning, declare to Mr Ted & nem waiting for their weekly temp fade that all u did was powder a couple rich honkobots ballsacks....they will promptly place u in the gay box, as they should

shit is what it is...u fondling the next motherfuckers nuts...YOU. ARE. GAY. idgaf if he paid u a billion. its gay. thats it. move on


do or die

holla @ survey, fam:
http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22C4NM6QPLP/
146515, oh, so then the barbershop quartet says urologists are gay too.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 11:49 AM
they also touch mens balls for money.
146516, FOH w/ your tainted logic
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 11:52 AM
did i say taint?!

UHOH


do or die

holla @ survey, fam:
http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22C4NM6QPLP/
146517, ^ urologist.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 11:56 AM
146518, ^^^^!!!!!!!!!^^^^
Posted by CrookedIsland, Tue Apr-05-11 12:10 PM
146519, where did this talk abt Malcolm being gay come from?
Posted by LeonPause, Tue Apr-05-11 11:38 AM
I've seen it mentioned here before that he was "gay", or "bi-sexual", or had "gay/bi-sexual tendencies". I'd like to read the facts.

Is there any mention of this in the new biography?
146520, manning marable new MX bio. nm
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 11:53 AM

do or die

holla @ survey, fam:
http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22C4NM6QPLP/
146521, Manning droped a stink bomb and then jetted.
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:59 AM
..
146522, dont get me to making too much sense in here
Posted by atruhead, Tue Apr-05-11 11:41 AM
but Malcolm wasnt openly gay

Thus Goldmind's avatar/signature is baiting anyone homophobic enough to take affront to the idea of a strong black leader that dabbled in the cock

it takes me back to the Mister Cee scandal, dude accomplished too much for me to care about his sexuality either way, same for malcolm x

you're ignorant for having an issue with it, goldmind preying on your insecurities is ignorant in its own right (if not a little justified), but at the end of the day we got an entertaining post out of it
146523, it's more of a stripping down
Posted by 3CardMolly, Tue Apr-05-11 11:55 AM
and this post in itself is bait and we've all taken part.
To uphold Malcolm for his sexuality or even lack of is like upholding him just cause his Black.
146524, You're right i saw goldminds avi earlier and smirked the smirk
Posted by IceburgSmurf, Tue Apr-05-11 12:35 PM
of a man that knew there was an entertaining post coming up later.

sexual orientation wars are so much better than gender or holy wars.

also kudos to used to be abby for pulling up that caseone quote haha
146525, LOL. this is the only instance where yall entertained gay4pay
Posted by BlaizeBlack26, Tue Apr-05-11 11:57 AM
under normal circumstances any man doing gay4pay is gay. now with this one person it's excusable or makes any kind of sense.

and also i dont think its so much that gays are trying to claim every black male celeb as much as it's hetero ppl getting angry anytime someone they admire may possibly be homosexual.

i remember having circumstantial anti-gay "friends" as a teen. we hung out all the time and they refused to believe that i was possibly gay. i remember one of my best friends almost got into a fist fight with some dude at a party cuz he overheard the guy say something about be being gay. when he told me about the altercation that almost went down i caved in and said "maybe they're right."

he was pissed at me and then told me damn near 100 other instances he had fought on my "behalf"

i LOL'd.
146526, fighting on behalf of a gay dude IS gay
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 12:05 PM
imma assume u @ LEAST hit that brother off w/ some head for that

if not full on butt love

on topic...uh...if malcolm did what marable sez he did...again: barbershop rules...HE GAY.

so all that other BS u typed is meaningless

im saying thats a lesser aspect of his character & therefore youre ppl may NOT suddenly kick off the I am Malcolm X movement because he's ours

we can share him like bitter divorced parents & a single child

but we get him on summer & xmas vacation


do or die

holla @ survey, fam:
http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22C4NM6QPLP/
146527, i'm dressing as Malcolm XXX for Pride this year!
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 12:10 PM
146528, El Hajj Malik Gangbang?
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 12:13 PM
lemme chill before abdul jaleel declares jihad


do or die

holla @ survey, fam:
http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22C4NM6QPLP/
146529, El Hajj Ma-Lick-Ya-Boom-Boom-Down
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 12:15 PM
146530, El Haaaaay! Malik She-bait-bus.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 12:16 PM
146531, B-A-S-E!
Posted by blkprinceMD05, Tue Apr-05-11 11:48 PM
any other time gay for pay would not be pissed this just shows how hard it is to swallow for str8 black men that ghey black men not only exist but walk among u and may have been one of ur heros

him doing that, if tru, shouldnt change ur views on anything he did for social justice and for the Black ppl...so sad how much yall cant deal (big kuntry, abdul, ap, etc)

also even a hustler's hustler, and detroit red had a lot of other hustles, if they are a heterosexual man would probably not be ghey for pay, Malcolm was bi if this is tru and theres nothing wrong with that

146532, DONT BE MAD AT PUERTO RICAN QUARTERS
Posted by double negative, Tue Apr-05-11 12:02 PM
ABE LINCOLN KNOWS WHATS UP
146533, Sooo... we supposed to believe a nigga
Posted by loki2stunt, Tue Apr-05-11 12:06 PM
trying to sell a book? Ok, why is this just now coming out? If this were true the Nation would have put him on blast a long time ago.

Shock post and shock book
146534, He's been writing it for decades.
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 12:09 PM
146535, dude. manning marable was 1 of if not THE pre-eminent
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 12:11 PM
political scientist/historian/public intellectual in Black culture since the john hope franklin era died off

he spent 25 yrs researching & writing this

i think its fair to say the facts on the ground are airtight, incontrovertible, & beyond any mere rumor

like...im SURE it comes from 1st person sources, ie malcolm himself.

marable had access TO the OG ABOMX tapes alex haley recorded. it gets no realer

and as others have said...the info isnt new to malcolm x scholars/admirers or hell...general public

aka u loud, dumb n wrong

146536, what happened to the black radical congress
Posted by thrill, Tue Apr-05-11 12:18 PM
does anyone know?
146537, ignorance + apathy = 2011 Black america
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 12:20 PM
you can lead a slave to freedom but you cant make him think


do or die

holla @ survey, fam:
http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22C4NM6QPLP/
146538, lol, 25yrs just to tell u he gay
Posted by loki2stunt, Tue Apr-05-11 12:54 PM
right... The best thing about black folks is that we do a better job a tearing ourselves down than the white man... i guess MLK was gay also and i'm sure Malcom just told Alex Haley and others that he was gay... yeah that sounds right. While we on this witch hunt why don't we find some of his former boyfriends and or clients, lol nigga's believe anything. No wonder we so fucked up.
146539, ..there *may* be more things covered in the book, don't you think?
Posted by shockzilla, Tue Apr-05-11 01:56 PM
146540, the Nation of Islam has brought it up before tho
Posted by Amritsar, Tue Apr-05-11 12:41 PM
when Ministers or followers are propping up Elijah's influence in Malcolm's life they always mention how his conversion 'saved' him from that lifestyle


The fact that he was a prostitute for males is already well-known; I guess Marable's book just goes into the details that nobody has before.
146541, plus those letters saying to elijah muhammad
Posted by thrill, Tue Apr-05-11 12:09 PM
betty was too sexually demanding.

hm!

146542, lawd today...what now?!
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 12:19 PM
thats a new one

oy vey

146543, Goldmind won.
Posted by IkeMoses, Tue Apr-05-11 12:23 PM
146544, all day erry day
Posted by used to be abby, Tue Apr-05-11 12:25 PM
.
146545, yeah I have to take him out for chicken nuggets now.
Posted by lovelyone80, Tue Apr-05-11 12:25 PM
146546, flawless victory, even
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Apr-05-11 12:29 PM
.
146547, Let this be a lesson in reading comprehension for his opponents
Posted by KangolLove, Tue Apr-05-11 12:32 PM
146548, ;-)
Posted by used to be abby, Tue Apr-05-11 12:33 PM
.
146549, RE: Goldmind won.
Posted by Darryl_Licke, Tue Apr-05-11 12:37 PM
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=10262571&mesg_id=10262571&page=#10263168
146550, :(
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Apr-05-11 12:41 PM
.
146551, that's rather disturbing and not cool in the least.
Posted by used to be abby, Tue Apr-05-11 12:45 PM
.
146552, respect his deen?
Posted by Darryl_Licke, Tue Apr-05-11 12:55 PM
146553, i cant ever log off, this place gets more bizarre by the day
Posted by atruhead, Tue Apr-05-11 01:14 PM
146554, so do we bring up the bow tie hit sqaud in here, or not?
Posted by d_Benjamin_m, Tue Apr-05-11 02:43 PM
146555, that nigga kufi on too tight.
Posted by IkeMoses, Tue Apr-05-11 03:30 PM
146556, gayality. flawless fierceness victory.
Posted by PlanetInfinite, Tue Apr-05-11 12:45 PM
146557, As always.
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 12:48 PM
146558, It was a good SEC over Big 10 style win too...
Posted by Dstl1, Tue Apr-05-11 12:52 PM
on some Florida/Ohio St.
146559, shole did.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Apr-05-11 12:56 PM
lol
146560, indeed he did.
Posted by MsBliss, Tue Apr-05-11 12:57 PM
146561, Dude there are really times when I <3 him lol
Posted by The_Red_Ninja_Turtle, Tue Apr-05-11 11:19 PM
146562, Ted Gee Seal won also....
Posted by OK Apple, Wed Apr-06-11 12:06 AM

~Apple

-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
146563, in a landslide.
Posted by used to be abby, Wed Apr-06-11 02:30 PM
.
146564, All this post is missing is the illuminati, hip hop and pics.
Posted by mochalox, Tue Apr-05-11 12:52 PM
146565, Nah, this deserves to be brought to light for this reason(s):
Posted by vee-lover, Tue Apr-05-11 01:15 PM
The fact that Malcolm X/El Hajj Malik Shabazz was the face of the NOI which is an organization that has branded itself as anti-homosexuality and has in the past (and even til this day) said some pretty damning words on the homosexual lifestyle since the NOI has been around, is cause for bringing this part of X's life to the forefront.

I made a post abt this 2 yrs ago in OKActivists and it was met with a lot of disbelief or denial. I've heard this abt X from older members in the Nation since as early as 1995, a few yrs after there had been this resurgence in the life of Malcolm.

A lot of posters excused his then *alleged* homosexual lifestyle and responded by saying he was in prison for 12 yrs and "he had to do something to alleviate his sexual tension but once he got out of prison and became a Muslim that he no longer engaged in homosexual acts" was the constant theme of the post.

For me, this goes back to the never ending conversation abt sexuality and labeling. Sexuality is understood as a fluid thing which is why, for example, a woman who engaged in lesbian sex during her college days but then goes on to get married and live a hetero lifestyle isn't viewed necessarily as a lesbian...but this has NEVER extended to men. Ppl in general and blk ppl especially feel as if a man who engaged in sex at any time, for how short a time, in his life with another man IS STILL GAY.

It'll be interesting to see on a national level or even within the blk community where this conversation goes from here. Will El Hajj Malik join the ranks of other prominent gay BLK men throughout American history who have made extraordinary contributions for the struggle for civil and human rights i.e. James Baldwin (who was a close friend of Malcolm), Langston Hughes, Countee Cullen, Alaine Locke and others? Or will Malcolm now be viewed as a hypocrite and unworthy of praise for living such an "abominal lifestyle?"

146566, Richard Wright?
Posted by Chike, Tue Apr-05-11 01:19 PM
You hurt your argument there - if Wright can be claimed, X can... like come on people, I've never heard about that aspect of Wright.
146567, yo, what i look like? Gay Black Male Historical Clearing House?
Posted by Binlahab, Tue Apr-05-11 01:39 PM
he might be, he might not be...i thought i read he was i could VERY possibly be wrong as hell

moral: please for the love of all things holy stop acting like i speak gospel in regards to anything except reparations & making money off the books

146568, one of my professors in undergrad
Posted by SankofaII, Tue Apr-05-11 02:39 PM
said Wright was family but preferred the company of white men. nothing wrong with that but the wright speculation i'm not surprised at
146569, ugh
Posted by come on people, Tue Apr-05-11 03:44 PM
>said Wright was family but preferred the company of white
>men.
146570, lol this post is great
Posted by buildingblock, Tue Apr-05-11 01:21 PM
146571, I wonder what his children have to say about the allegation
Posted by CrookedIsland, Tue Apr-05-11 02:02 PM
Can we all at least read the book first. lol
146572, Hopefully gays will learn to embrace the shame malcolm lived with
Posted by SeV, Tue Apr-05-11 02:10 PM
And turn their lives around for the better
____________

http://media.onsugar.com/files/2011/01/03/5/1339/13392164/29/nowitzki_mvp.jpg
146573, ^^^^
Posted by kingjerm78, Tue Apr-05-11 06:27 PM
146574, lol
Posted by Grand_Royal, Tue Apr-05-11 07:21 PM

"...and pardon if it sounds a lil wheezy,
it's not Wayne mothafers, got asthma, it's not easy"
146575, lol
Posted by The Wordsmith, Tue Apr-05-11 11:18 PM

Since 1976

http://owni.eu/files/2010/12/bent3.jpg
http://owni.eu/files/2010/12/bent18.jpg
146576, Oh my..
Posted by Case_One, Tue Apr-05-11 11:22 PM
I'm glad I didn't say that.
146577, I heard this morning Gandhi's in the mix too...
Posted by RemyMartin, Tue Apr-05-11 02:21 PM
http://www.npr.org/2011/04/04/135121195/gandhi-biography-causes-furor

Gandhi Biography Causes Furor In India
by Corey Flintoff

April 4, 2011

A new book on Indian leader Mohandas Gandhi has sparked a furor in India, prompting at least one Indian state to propose banning it.

The book itself hasn't been released in India yet, but politicians are reacting to a review that highlighted passages suggesting that Gandhi may have been bisexual.

That was too much for people who venerate Gandhi as the Mahatma, who pioneered nonviolent protest and led India to independence from the British Empire.

The proposed ban has also prompted many people to defend the author's right to publish.

Vijay Jolly, a spokesman in New Delhi for India's main opposition party, the Bharatiya Janata Party, says his party is disturbed by what it has heard about the book. "If even a passing reference casts any on Mahatma's great personality and persona," he says, "then certainly we have a right to demand a review or a ban on the book."

The BJP in New Delhi has proposed banning Great Soul: Mahatma Gandhi and his Struggle with India, by Joseph Lelyveld.

The passages to which Jolly objects come from letters written by Gandhi to Hermann Kallenbach, with whom Gandhi lived in South Africa before World War I.

"Now, even a passing reference that Mahatma left his wife to live with a so-called German Jew bodybuilder attributes different assertions to that particular statement, which we consider to be derogatory in nature," Jolly says.

Lelyveld quotes Gandhi's letters to Kallenbach, which he says are full of strong expressions of love.

"Now if you think love has to be sexual, love between two men can only exist if it's sexual, then I guess this was sexual, but if you look at what the two men actually said, and at their efforts in their time together to repress any hint of sexual urges, I think you'll find that at least I don't suggest that it was bisexual," Lelyveld says.

Lelyveld is a former executive editor at the New York Times who worked as a correspondent in India and South Africa.

He says there's no news in the letters he quotes: "The passages that I quote that so offend people can be found in Volume 96 of the collected works of Mahatma Gandhi printed by the government of India and they've been in the public domain since at least 1994."

Lelyveld says the controversy in India was stoked by a review of the book by historian Andrew Roberts.

"The word got into play, I think, because of the coverage in a Wall Street Journal review that basically trashed Gandhi," he says. " didn't particularly trash my book, but used some of the material in the book to trash Gandhi, as I think he used the term 'sexual weirdo.' "

Many people have come forward to defend Lelyveld's right to publish.

Tushar Gandhi, the Mahatma's great-grandson, says the family opposes any effort to restrict freedom of opinion because Gandhi stood for freedom.

"And then on the pretext of protecting his honor, if these kind of draconian, anti-democratic measures are taken, they must be condemned and opposed," he says.

Tushar Gandhi also says that whatever his great-grandfather's sexuality may have been, it has nothing to do with his place in Indian history.

"He is known for a peace activist," Tushar Gandhi says. "He is known for a person who taught us that conflicts could be resolved by nonviolence, and the honesty and clarity with which he lived his life are the examples."

At least one state government controlled by the BJP, the western state of Gujarat, has already said it will ban the book if it's released in India. Another state, Maharashtra, whose capital is Mumbai, has said it's considering a ban.

Lelyveld says his publisher in India is going ahead with plans to release the book, and that the controversy hasn't hurt sales one bit.

Readers in India are already ordering Great Soul on the Internet, and Amazon says India accounts for 33 percent of its foreign sales.

Gandhi himself might have laughed at the fuss.

An editorial in The Hindu newspaper quoted a famous remark of the Mahatma to his followers, "I am of the earth, earthy ... I am prone to as many weaknesses as you are."
146578, yea folk about to go ham over this in India
Posted by SankofaII, Tue Apr-05-11 02:49 PM
and have they started digging into Huey Newton's past also?

cause I know some researchers who are convinced he's gay too...
146579, yea its come up in the past..theyve never found any concrete evidence
Posted by guru0509, Tue Apr-05-11 02:51 PM
just a few authors desperate for sales and $


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146580, I bet they MAD
Posted by FireBrand, Tue Apr-05-11 03:08 PM
146581, lol you would be so MAD if that were true tho ...
Posted by Amritsar, Tue Apr-05-11 04:02 PM
>just a few authors desperate for sales and $
>
>
>_______________________________
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>>Pharoah Monch - W.A.R.
>Snoop Doggy Dogg - The Doggumentary
>Raekwon - Shaolin vs Wu-Tang
>CunninLynguists - Oneirology
>
>>ॐ शांति
146582, well damn ... at least somebody was paying attention
Posted by Amritsar, Tue Apr-05-11 04:04 PM
Tushar Gandhi, the Mahatma's great-grandson, says the family opposes any effort to restrict freedom of opinion because Gandhi stood for freedom.

"And then on the pretext of protecting his honor, if these kind of draconian, anti-democratic measures are taken, they must be condemned and opposed," he says.

Tushar Gandhi also says that whatever his great-grandfather's sexuality may have been, it has nothing to do with his place in Indian history
146583, GAININ ON YA!
Posted by Goldmind, Wed Apr-06-11 01:36 PM
(c)SoWhat
146584, lol does that come from somewhere? or did SoWhat coin it?
Posted by Ted Gee Seal, Wed Apr-06-11 02:26 PM

146585, this post is oustanding/a few things:
Posted by SankofaII, Tue Apr-05-11 02:36 PM
The Marable X biography: so, he wrote that malcolm slobbed some knobs for coin/rubbed some backs too...ok.
Haley stated as much in his biography so this isn't news. AT ALL.
Do I think he's gay? I doubt it...sexuality is quite fluid and I never held much thought in his being gay. BUT, that doesnt change how i feel about him and the work he did while he was alive.

BUT, the hypocrisy in this post (i.e. if a dude sucks a dick, fucks man ass or gets fucked ONCE, he's gay. but malcolm isn't somehow? ok...) is hilarious...but becoming typical of folk here at GD.

I'm planning to get this when I get paid this week and see if Marable's biography is better than or worse than Haley's, etc.

But the replies in this post are outfuckingtastic. Y'all have kept me in tears laughing ALL damn day...

but that poem Abdul Jaleel put up about Goldmind--mmmm *DISTURBING*
146586, confusing how you wrote "Haley stated as much..."
Posted by Chike, Tue Apr-05-11 02:40 PM
What Haley gave us, of course, is an autobiography (however much his own editing and writing shaped it)... so are you saying Malcolm stated as much? And where?
146587, no that was my poor word choice
Posted by SankofaII, Tue Apr-05-11 02:48 PM
but I know in a few interviews, HALEY suggested (stated was a bad choice of a word) Malcolm had sex with men...but, when prompted to define that, he wouldn't.

146588, So which celebs, past figures would gays NOT be proud to claim?
Posted by ShinobiShaw, Tue Apr-05-11 03:38 PM
Hmm if Hitler or Louis the XVI of France was the gay I'm sure you guys would not be proud of that at all.

<------ i wish they all can be california boho girls

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146589, from what i've gathered, Mister Cee
Posted by Government Name, Tue Apr-05-11 04:48 PM
146590, well i can't claim Will and Grace's Sean Hayes
Posted by SankofaII, Tue Apr-05-11 05:12 PM
he's going to possibly BE the third Stooges in the Three Stooges movies #FAIL

I mean, i can't do two hours of his "just jack" schtick as one of the stooges...

i dont think the alabaster gays are claiming Adam Lambert..well, its adam lambert you do the math on that one. lol!
146591, what Lambert do?
Posted by 3CardMolly, Tue Apr-05-11 05:33 PM
146592, I said hitler and king guillotine and you mention will and grace actors?
Posted by ShinobiShaw, Tue Apr-05-11 05:53 PM

<------ i wish they all can be california boho girls

http://www.rareformnyc.com
http://djshinobishaw.tumblr.com/
http://twitter.com/DJShinobiShaw
PSN: ShinobiShaw

"Arm Leg Leg Arm How you doin?" (c) T510
146593, you also said celebs.
Posted by guru0509, Tue Apr-05-11 10:40 PM
_______________________________

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Snoop Doggy Dogg - The Doggumentary
Raekwon - Shaolin vs Wu-Tang
CunninLynguists - Oneirology

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146594, BINGO
Posted by SankofaII, Wed Apr-06-11 03:44 PM
146595, Shit, let em have pre reformation Malcolm.
Posted by RaFromQueens, Tue Apr-05-11 07:35 PM
If anything this is a victory for the "cure teh gay" crowd. He shed it like criminality and white women.
146596, :-/
Posted by blkprinceMD05, Tue Apr-05-11 11:53 PM
146597, malcolm x was gay? what the fuck???
Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Apr-05-11 09:58 PM
146598, dammit, who else is the gay community gonna out!?
Posted by mtbatol, Tue Apr-05-11 11:28 PM
MLK?
Toussaint Louverture?
Obama?
Mr. T?
Michael Jordan?
The Kennedy Men?
Goku?
Superman?
Heman?!!? (edit: then again this one wouldn't surprise me -___- )

SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PIECE!!!
(#pause)
146599, I will fight over these
Posted by RaFromQueens, Tue Apr-05-11 11:42 PM
>MLK?

>Obama?

>Michael Jordan?
>The Kennedy Men?
>Goku?
>Superman?
146600, y'all niggas will believe any old bullshit
Posted by Hussein ibn Malik, Wed Apr-06-11 12:43 AM
fuck ALL the way outta here with this fuckery



146601, been done, Hooper X
Posted by rzaroch36, Wed Apr-06-11 12:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv7beQ9wHiM