Or that its cool, or even acceptable behavior.

It isn't.

Fact is, we condone and enable a lifestyle that is inherently dangerous and unhealthy because no one wants to stand up and say that its wrong...

The same people that acted appalled over the DL phenomena are encouraging wanton homosexual behavior here on the boards and you can't have it both ways.

I don't agree with it at all and I hope you all see the double standards that you're perpetuating in our community by treating it as being acceptable.




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it is a job, it's just like being involved in government or political
campaigns, edit that sh*t

i have this response on repeat for today

lol

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i mean i'm all for gay niggas living life freely
but ppl on this site get extreme wit it
and they act like shit that is normally not acceptable in the real world....is the norm
i can't call it
the fact that it's so many atheists , drug users and homosexuals on here should tell u bout the audience and what they will deem acceptable

I am glad some others agree with me.

they encourage that shit on one hand, then will be the same ones tryna crucify a nigga if he say he dates white women or calls black women trifling.

this place is turning into Sodom.


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But Crich is on some bullshit cause all he does is post about all his "hoes" and "beat pieces." If you want to call the okgays out on their trife posting, you should call him out too.

he posts mad trife shit consistently. yeah it's funny sometime, but pots...

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i'm not gonna say its alot of deviant behavior, but what they do definitely deviates from the way i was raised.
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>but ppl on this site get extreme wit it
>and they act like shit that is normally not acceptable in the
>real world....is the norm
>i can't call it
>the fact that it's so many atheists , drug users and
>homosexuals on here should tell u bout the audience and what
>they will deem acceptable

^^ if only nigs realized how close that sounds like Fascism

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If you tickle him, doth he not laugh?
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But i wouldn't say that it is wrong. I think the DL thing a totally different animal.

yes, that is an animal which falls under LYING, which of course, none of us straights on here do...

So please shut the fuck up.

I am not saying I agree with Cor-daws, but he is staing a legitimate beef he has, this requires debate.

Please give me a good reason why it's ok for someone who constantly posts about "beat pieces" and how he and his friends have wild nights of committing fornication with women they don't even want less offensive than what Goldmind does with his life.

Mind you, I do understand why some people find living as a homosexual, man-ho, slut, or whatever morally offensive, but come on, this was posted by ^^^him of all people. *rolls eyes*

but regardless of whether you think of him as a "man-whore" or not isn't related to what he's posing.

That's like how Bush dodges questions about Iraq by elluding to some other bullshit that doesn't answer the question.

CRich has sex with women... sometimes white. (ehh) but that's his thing. He has never asked us who he should fuck next. He just goes, sticks his dick in and tells us about the smell.

And last we checked, he was going in on a relationship mission, so dude is actually off the market.

So here we have our quandry.

Because y'all stay making excuses for bullshit.

Peace

but I am not, nor am ever "riding for his bullshit" lol. I have gay family. I love my gay family. They ARE my equals... etc.

I just like a good, qualified debate.

there is no debate

*gets smacked with obviously stick*

okay then, I'm gone! lol.

and common denominartor which is NOT being acknowledged here, is morality, particularly sexual morality, so i feel his/her debate skills are on the mark.

insofar as sexual philosophy is concerned.

his authority to debate about it.
whereas i'm sure he and a lot of the other homophobes on here could add sparkling & scintillating (and INFORMED) facets to debates on mysogyny (sp), black self hatred, male/female relationships, lying, whoring, cheating, gluttony (insert deadly sin of your choice here _____________).

we all could, but, you knwo...doing this is easier and cuter.

at the same time we condone that shit in our heterosexual relationships. Even praise it.

So I can't really hate on it just because its gay, even though I personally don't get down with that.

Just hope these homos are being safe and not passing snything back to some female I'll run through in the future.

Oh well...

this puritanical shit is new.

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but what do you find dangerous, unacceptable or unhealthy?

i say to each his own and im no one to judge

but i do get a kick out of the more feminine young men

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weak poasting.

SMOKERS are catching it wayyyyy more than gay folk when it comes to unacceptable behavior.

i recently did a workshop with young gay men about decreasing your risk to HIV...

& the amount of flirting, sexual innuendo i saw flying around the room was shocking

I went to a presentation by the NYC DOH LGBT branch, they did a few focus groups on why are the rates of HIV skyrocketing for young men who have sex with men...

& basically

they're not affirmed by their enviorment, so they put themselves at risk to "belong" somewhere

to feel love etc.

that's simplifying it, but the type of attitude you posting with, isn't gonna help, it's only gon' make it worse

gangs are over...so now to be accepted a lot of folk go there. I just personally think it's unfair to "true homosexuals". All these fake ass fags running aroud 'cause they confused.

It really sullies the market for real homosexuals to find real partners.

but I think the context of discussion, that is to say that the notion of putting homosexual behavior into some category of the norm rather than treating it as an alternative lifestyle, is problematic.

I understand that people are born that way, I understand that people are born with all manner of defects and deficiencies, it doesn't make them less than, but it does make them marginal and when the needs of the marginal few become the predominant norm, then there's a problem.




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isn't legitimate

or rather even their existence

i think the problem is the perception of masculinity & sexuality for black men in competition with the perception of "weakness" or as you say "defectiveness"

causes alot of men to view their brothers in an ill light because they're diff't

& in turn it creates sub-cultures

which then explode into more accentuated or colorful (lol) sub-cultures

in order to express and accept their own existence which isn't supported by the mainstream

so what if young gay black men were seen as equals with non-gay black men

what would the HIV epidemic look like in our communities then?

very mofo'n diff't if you ask me

They're not less than me, they're not greater than me, but they are not my equals... they're different and should be treated as such.

Again, in a society where the minority lives with the majority, they must assimilate to the prevailing social norms and adjust accordingly.

So if you're gay, that's fine, but don't expect the same treatment that straight people get because society is predicated on the idea of a heterosexual norm and a homosexual fringe. And that's where homosexuality should stay, on the fringe.




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god forbid anyone in this thread try and compare the homosexual minority to a racial, religious or physical minority, even though you just conceeded that they are basically the same above. So they are the same as any other minority group but should stay out of mainstream society?
ONWARD! UPWARD!
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i mean come on imo

i think it's a stretch to put that up there with black folks should be kept on the fringe

but it reeks of the same ideals

& if you ask me as a people who have experienced being marginalized because of who we are

i on't think that's how we should roll on this 1

And it is an unfortunate comparison to make between race and sexual orientation. In matters of race, its about equal access based on a publicly observed trait.

I walk in a room, you know I'm black.

But in matters of sexual orientation, that's a privacy issue. No one has to know that someone is gay, and its preferable if they don't. It's not a matter of public discussion, and because it isn't, then its something that can be used as a marginalizing factor. No one asked you if you were gay, you told them, so now you've asked to be marginalized.

I don't have to accept anyone who's lifestyle is outside of the norm... drug abusers, criminals, pedophiles, whatever... its up to me to decide who I will and won't accept.


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because the lifestyle is based off of the culture it's emulating

just as most "lifestyles" are mix & matches of what's in the larger culture

just more focused & based off of certain constructs.

I don't think lumping the lifestyle in with the act is correct because then you assume that something is inherently "wrong" with a people

It's not a matter of public discussion, and
>because it isn't, then its something that can be used as a
>marginalizing factor.

And sexuality.

So gay folks should simply not speak up/mention anything related to these topics, else risk marginalization?

>They're not less than me, they're not greater than me, but
>they are not my equals... they're different and should be
>treated as such.
>
>Again, in a society where the minority lives with the
>majority, they must assimilate to the prevailing social norms
>and adjust accordingly.
>
>So if you're black, that's fine, but don't expect the same
>treatment that white people get because society is
>predicated on the idea of a white norm and a black
>fringe. And that's where black people should stay, on the
>fringe.
>
>
>
>
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we have now gone down different avenues homie. I'll catch up with you later. Make the right, make the right....


>They're not less than me, they're not greater than me, but
>they are not my equals... they're different and should be
>treated as such.

Sounds like Jim Crowe to me...
>
>Again, in a society where the minority lives with the
>majority, they must assimilate to the prevailing social norms
>and adjust accordingly.
>

Oh shit, was that Rosa Parks getting locked up 'cause she sat down?

>So if you're gay, that's fine, but don't expect the same
>treatment that straight people get because society is
>predicated on the idea of a heterosexual norm and a homosexual
>fringe. And that's where homosexuality should stay, on the
>fringe.
>
Keep your niggers outta my yard. I understand you HAVE to live here, but know that we don't want you, need you or any such thing. Oh, and if you happen to see a noose in ya tree or a cross on your lawn..."our bad".
>
>
>
you're scaring me now dude.

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I don't feel it is at all different. But hey, it's how you feel and i can't judge that. But there will be homosexuals at the functions I throw, so when you're in town, we'll tear it down ,but just know not every person at my parties is "identifiable"...

Shit, I went to Morehouse so I know plenty of gay niggas. Like I said before, I don't agree with their lifestyle, but I haven't gotten on here and said one slur or attempted to bash anyone.

I just think its wrong to treat it as the norm.


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take out the word gay and put black.

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so that's not true :(

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by that definition woman are different and thus not your equal

which gets to the heart of the matter

sexism and homophobia are close cousins my friend.
very close

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seperate but equal worked great for black people!

you could be so insightful. Good shit. I agree.




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do you think that what you witnessed is simply a male behaviour (obviously increased by the love and acceptance, food clothes and shelter factors), which is limited in hetero interactions by US (females), due to our instilled morals and perceptions of feminie value (milk for free/nobody wants a slut, etc.)?

bcuz judging by what happens to most of us day to day, it seems that if we were responding in kind, EVERYONE would be fuckin like gay men.

were talking about raw sex within the last year or so. One even said "I didn't know you could catch Chlymidia(sp?) through a man's anus"....WTF?





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If people participate in reckless sexual behavior.

Besides that, you do your own share of promoting nonsense...I'd say the problem isn't so much about gayness or posting about it, moreso about your tolerance based on your own personal participation in any said activity.

Is that also not a double standard?

lol

i agrees, but u kind went offbase with the personal attack

besides that, i'm not the only person who has pointed that out in this thread.....but somehow always the only person, folk take issue with because of it.

THAT i find interesting

It seems. Stray off the point and attack the Poster. I notice that alot about her. Are they like Ex-partners/divorced/ ??

I just dont live on this Website, or pop in on 99% of posts people make on here.

me while i fart.

I like this dude's posts. Whether he sounds like he's speaking bullshit or dropping knowledge, I like his posts. As observant as I am, you follow this dudes posts like a lost puppy and always seem to personally attack him and his views whether serious or not. That's all I'm saying, which is why i ask the Question.

>I like this dude's posts. Whether he sounds like he's
>speaking bullshit or dropping knowledge, I like his posts. As
>observant as I am, you follow this dudes posts like a lost
>puppy and always seem to personally attack him and his views
>whether serious or not. That's all I'm saying, which is why i
>ask the Question.


by the way, i have discourse, debate, etc with him, a lot of others as well....you included.

and since the aim of this post wasn't to insult or to insinuate, it was unbelievably out of line.

I'm not here to gay bash or to toss around slurs or anything like that... I'm merely expressing my opinion and that's that.

don't like it? I don't care.


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>I'm merely expressing my opinion and that's
>that.
>
>don't like it? I don't care.

Likewise, so whats the issue?

white power!

because you can't hide being black but gay people can essentially hide (if they want too). I am only saying this because I hate that comparison with a passion. Being gay and being black are two totally different things IMHO.

its interesting how much they have in common

I'm not really concerned weather its equal nothings equal

and they are VERY similar, u saying u cant hide being black means nothing, thats to say that if Black ppl could hide being black then they should/would

its all about hating ppl or thinking less of ppl simply for being who they are

u can hide being gay, but what type of life would that be, no relationships, no love, no self respect

hiding being gay is no more sensical then being ashamed of being black

and I agree, it's just that I don't believe the over-all the experiences of black people can be compared to that of gay people. The only similarity I see is fighting to be accepted. and I wish both parties didnt have to but two groups aren't equal nor totally comparable in the bigger scheme of things.

But I digress, I didnt want to take away from the general premise of this thread.

>because you can't hide being black but gay people can
>essentially hide (if they want too).

you CAN hide being black. not every black person is an easily identifiable deep shade of brown. some are light. some appear latino, indian, jewish, white. the list is long. so there are millions of black people that can hide (if they want to)


I am only saying this
>because I hate that comparison with a passion.

you must learn the difference between COMPARING and EQUATING. Being black is COMPARABLE to being gay; but it's not EQUAL. Comparable means that there are enough similar circumstances to compare the two fairly. do you disagree with that?

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and like I said before I don't think they are equal nor should be compared because the overall black experience is nothing like the overall gay experience. At all...the only similartity is the fight for acceptance. Gays were previously accepted in the roman and greek empire, then along came a wave of crusades and it was no longer okay. Minorities never had that general acceptance to lose. Blacks have for years fought for thier rights, in a variety of situations. The only right I see gays fighting for is the right to get married (which they should have). Other than what other rights are they fighting for? Now if I am wrong please excuse me, but this is what I see them fighting and picketing for. While for centuries we have fought for that PLUS more.
I dont see the experiences as equal or comparable overall. It's like apples and oranges, you can't compare the two. Yeah they are both fruit but that's about it.

By your comparison we should be cool cause we once ruled the civilized world. Egypt and surrounding areas were black as hell, and rode high until that empire fell. Just cause homosexuality was cool to greeks doesnt diminish what people think now. Just as how our ancestors enslavement of people shouldnt diminish the injustices committed against their descendants.

our history was changed to make it seem like white people were always the ones who did it first. They took our culture, our heritage, our language, who we are...this is why I can't see the two as comparable or equal OVERALL. But I get what everyone is saying, this is just my humble opinion.

>and like I said before I don't think they are equal nor
>should be compared because the overall black experience is
>nothing like the overall gay experience. At all...the only
>similartity is the fight for acceptance. Gays were previously
>accepted in the roman and greek empire, then along came a wave
>of crusades and it was no longer okay. Minorities never had
>that general acceptance to lose. Blacks have for years fought
>for thier rights, in a variety of situations. The only right I
>see gays fighting for is the right to get married (which they
>should have). Other than what other rights are they fighting
>for? Now if I am wrong please excuse me, but this is what I
>see them fighting and picketing for. While for centuries we
>have fought for that PLUS more.
>I dont see the experiences as equal or comparable overall.
>It's like apples and oranges, you can't compare the two. Yeah
>they are both fruit but that's about it.

I don't appreciate being called ignorant. I am not gay so of course, I will speak of the gay experience as I see it. In my post I said in my opinion and from what I have seen. So instead of calling names, why wouldnt you use that as a platform to enlighten me. Explain to me how they are comparable or can be equated.
Like I said the fight for rights is different, to me all you are fighting for is acceptance (which white gays get more so black gays are fighting for double acceptance) and the right to get married. What am I missing?

See this is the fucked up part of OKP instead of even trying to have a discussion and try to explain your point, people rather say "fuck you", "you are ignorant", "stfu"...right. So whose really being ignorant.

This is why I dont bother with gay or religion post. People so fucking sensitive.

at least not in the civil rights issues that are being fought during our time.

>Like I said the fight for rights is different, to me all you
>are fighting for is acceptance (which white gays get more so
>black gays are fighting for double acceptance) and the right
>to get married. What am I missing?

lol...You seriously think gay marriage is the ONLY right that gays are fighting for?
Gays are fighting for the right to not be discriminated against in the workplace.
Gays are fighting for the right to adopt children.
Gays are fighting for protection against housing discrimination.
Gays are fighting for violence against gays to be recognized in hate crime legislation.
Gays are fighting for the government to adequately address disease in our communities.
It was just recently decided by the supreme court that it's illegal to outlaw gay sex!!

*That* is what you're missing.
Thus, civil rights for gays and Blacks are *not* beyond parallels.

Homosexuality became stigmatized in Rome _long_ before the Crusades. Open homosexuality started its decline during the first century CE, and by 342, with the acceptance of Christianity as Rome's official religion, it was outlawed and made punishable by death. The crusades began in 1095, seven hundred and fifty-three years later.

Second, black people didn't relaly have to worry about fighting for our rights until the beginnings of the slave trade in the tenth century. Dealings between Africans and Middle Easterners were far more humane, and we had a good bit of acceptance from many (though admittedly not all) of those peoples.

Third, gay people have been fighting for more than just gay marriage. THat's all you see _now_. There were struggles for homosexuality to be delisted as a mental illness (in 1973), sodomy laws to be stricken down (in 2003), and there's still the issuesof gay peopel not being allowed ot adopt, gay men disallowed fro mgivign blood, sexual orientatio nnot being protected in many states by anti-discriminatory laws.

The similarity is that it's people who have been marginalized by the largley white rotestant American society fighting for rights. like black people. Like Latinos (Spanish should be made an official second language in many areas). Like Jews. Like Asians. Like Muslims. Like WOMEN.

Selective social consciousness is a mess.

LOL.

I aint arguing with ya'll.
There are things I see as comparable and this is not a case. I could be biased because of my own views of homosexuality, I will admit that. But it's not comparable to me. Sorry. I am not the only one who thinks that way either. But because I am not afraid to say it, I get the backlash. That's fine. But I guarantee you that a majority of the straight people on this board agree with me.

you and i both know about things like "mob rule/think"
segragation was the law of the land because the majority of whites agreed with it whether it was on the books or defacto.

the german population agreed with the works of the nazis

majority think should never be the basis for winning an argument or taking a stand against anything--whether it's homophobia, sexism or racism.

now if you think the struggles aren't comparbable fine---but just because your opinion is shared with the majority doesn't make you right.

All I looked up were the exact dates - I at least knew you were off by seven centuries. That's basic seventh-grade world history.

And I don't care who agrees with you. Heck, I don't care if ?uestlove agrees with you - it doesn't make whatever revisionist history you want to believe in true, nor does it mean that you can't compare (NOTICE I DID NOT SAY EQUATE!) the struggles of black folks and gay folks, ESPECIALLY when BLACK GAY FOLKS (who I'd think MIGHT KNOW what they're talking about. Just a guess!) are telling you such.

building with you in a non-confrontational way. that is if you're about being enlightened versus holding on to factually inaccurate gut feelings & limitations. but yeah he just broke you/us off with some amazing facts and historical/cultural context virtually off the top of the dome.



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in your entire LIFETIME.
So instead of laughing at him, maybe you should be taking notes.

You say you want to debate objectively, but you get defensive when someone proves you wrong. And believe me that despite all that blah blah blah about having a degree in biology, it was CLEAR that you had a biased agenda and were not tryin to hear anything but your own argument. And it's absolutely annoying.

And who cares if "the majority of the straight people on this board" agree with you? What's the significance of that, other than the fact that most straight people are potentially walking around being wrong? The majority opinion argument is never a strong one, boo, especially because the MAJORITY of people prolly think you're a nigger.

> But I
>guarantee you that a majority of the straight people on this
>board agree with me.

theoretical distinction/luxury

>Being gay and
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Agreed! What we need are better "whitening creams" so blacks can "hide" too!

You can not hold hands in public when out on a date.

Matter of fact, you can not date in public, lest someone see and/or recognize you. No going out to dinner, etc.; take out will suffice. Oh, and skip a seat or two when you both go to a movie.

When all of your friends blab on and on and on about their boyriend/girlfriend, what they did, what they're doing, and what they're gonna do, you can sit around and look sheepish so that, when they ask you "so how about you? Are you seeing anybody?" You can shrug and lie.

You can lie to your "best" friends. Repeatedly. everyone. You can lie to your mother, to your father. Pretty soon, you're lying to yourself. Your entire life has become two-sided, and you're living in secret.

Now, does that sound like fun to you?

Homosexuals haven't.

And in this new age where they are now getting the highest strife since ever, they equate it to the neverending struggle of black people and it is quite suspect.

Homosexuality has been seen in many different lights.

Nah man....no equating the two.

as a sidenote and I get all the replies...maybe I said too much. Had I just said there is no equating the two, maybe they would keep arguing with others.

but you think you do

Very.

i just ignore it... long as it don't come to me i'm not worried about it.

To have a phobia is to have a fear and not agreeing with what a person does or their ideology doesn't equate fear unless there's some tangible evidence of fear being the catalyst for their disagreement. Just like you said, you don't care and it's not your thing. Same with others. So is "homophobia" the right word to use just because a person isn't down with things homosexual?

but i actually think that is pretty irrelevant, since we all know what we mean.
the best way to disagree with a behaviour is to not engage in it. all the extras begin to traipse into bigot/sudducee territory.

...than, say, "anti-Semitic."

A lot of Jews aren't even Semites, plus what about Arabs?

"Homophobic" speaks to irrational ideas we straight folks tend to form about gays, and it's usually based on some sort of fear (insecurity being one of them).

Simple as that.

shit, they better not be in -her- jacket.

I got shotgun...they can get their own damn lemonade

come Judgement Day.

Keep poking the anus and chasing the doodoos.

try again

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"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." (Matthew 7:1-2)

"..for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God..." (Romans 3:23)

That's all. You, me, and everyone else in this post. Gay people are in no more or no less danger of hellfire than you. So if you think gay folks are going to burn...what do you think is going to happen to you? If you believe in hell, you'd do well to repent yourself instead of damning others.

you said:

Fact is, we condone and enable a lifestyle that is inherently dangerous and unhealthy because no one wants to stand up and say that its wrong...


that can be said about any type of sexual activity that happens outside of marriage.

unless you're a virgin (which I am surprized sometimes that you aren't) you can't expect gay men to adhere to your expectations because it falls out of your comfort level.

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are accustomed to talking/hearing about it

heterosexuals engage in dangerous and unhealthy relationships as well.
which are also sinful according to bible thumpers.
but, u aint protesting post about that

the first thing u should remind yourself is that regardless of your religion
the one thing that transcends through all of them
is to not be judgmental of other people and that you yourself, have no right nor ability to quantify someone else's sins

there are ppl in this world that believe just as strongly as you do about gays, that you're just as hellbound and unrighteous because u engage in pre-marital sex

there are ppl that would lynch you if they could legally get away with it
for dating someone other than a black woman


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Interesting, indeed!

many others voted that you'd would be so much more disappointed if your daughter turned out to be a whore than if your son turned out to be gay?

In fact, you stated that you'd rather your son invite his partner into your home rather than to find out your daughter is being gangbanged for $100....thats not verbatim or exact, but that was pretty much the gist of it.

so it'll be easier to take if your son was gay as opposed to a daughter being promiscuous....as long as he don't talk about his gay lifestyle openly?

im just trying to understand. seriously.

it might change my perspective on it... but my opinion remains the same.


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I mean, I honestly think You are smart as heck. And I like how you make this dude eat his own words and his inconsistent POV's. For real. But is it that serious? Why do you always attack him and just him all the time. I really wanna know, Im very curious

>I mean, I honestly think You are smart as heck. And I like
>how you make this dude eat his own words and his inconsistent
>POV's. For real. But is it that serious? Why do you always
>attack him and just him all the time. I really wanna know, Im
>very curious

Post #79.

A, B, C or all of the above.

dont pay that no mind...

nm

...why give it so much thought as a straight man?

There are far worse (real) problems in the world.

To be continued tomorrow.

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from the extreme homophobes

u ppl are delusional

before I enter.. people be nasty!

and..

i bet he thinks gays are normal

and these ppl are in here dead serious, Amen-ing and shit

and then on some naw dawg, u went to far

I went to Kickballers and Major too.

that shyt is fly as hell

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before, so this is the last ill say about it

if u have a problem with homosexuality, u have a problem with homosexuals and thus are are anti-gay/homophobic

tolerance is great but that doesnt make someone NOT homophobic

tolerance is fine with me tho, just kno that ur still a homophobe

in my opinion.

ignorance, lack of ability to reason, and also tends to be associated with an argument that said "homophobe" has latent homosexual tendencies (s)he isn't comfortable with.

whereas in reality perfectly reasonable balanced people can be bigots.

Main Entry: ho·mo·pho·bia
Pronunciation: \ˌhō-mə-ˈfō-bē-ə\
Function: noun
Date: 1969
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

i mean, i don't agree with his position, but it would seem disingenuous to call him irrational.

element of bigotry.

there are plenty of people who have "friends who are _____" but would not rent/want their kids dating ______.

that person is still a bigot.

but rather in the context of argument/debate.

i actually disagree.
let's for instance say, i have a problem with abortions. this is a personal matter, best exhibited by ME not having an abortion. i believe a woman could feel this way, yet not have a problem with anyone else having abortions.
the same tolerance we ask for, we have to give. i'm not gonna disrespect soemone personally upholding their own christian or whatever ideals, but when they begin to ooze that shit out on other people is when it becomes a problem.

those dont compare IMO

but can you see past that to my point?

and homosexuality can be an act as well. there are some gay men who do not engage in sexual activity, just like some heteros. that could be judeo-christian influenced self hatred, but it's not my place to say, and it doesn't mean they have a problem with YOU.

trying tell a gay man how he interprets what u ppl say

...you're not fully explaining your position, but I can sense where it's rooted and headed. No doubt as a homosexual yourself and having faced the challenge of judgement, you've thought about it a lot.

I was thinking about this today actually...you see it all the time: people naturally averse to extreme positions, simply because there is such a risk involved in assuming a position that is extreme relative to the norm. It means that your position is dependent not simply on your reasoning in isolation, but relative to that which is already established as normal.

In the case of attitudes towards homosexuality, the "normal" position is aversion, but bounded by a general tolerance, but I'd say really we're tending towards mad homo or mad phobic...personally, the position between is filled only because it's comfortable.

I read about this in some psychology paper actually a while ago relating to "status quo" argument and prospect theory. Basically, the normal position is assumed, because the possibilty of regret given that an extreme position is maintained is greater than if the status quo is maintained, there exist strong inertia of choice.

ppl who have a problem w/homosexuality and/or homosexuals.

LOL

get in where you fit in.

Everyone has a right to have a problem with you Homos and not be a Homophobe. Shut that crying shit up.

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pls don't reply in this post. it's pointless.

I just don't see the point

u never seen me make a post about str8 ppl, yet ppl love to fantasize and speculate about us

its interesting to say the least

like, let these straits try to wrap their feeble minds around us.

are less offensive than crich just baffle me and they should know they are all in same boat IMO

but I wont..........

I dont feel like having OKP get all bent outta shape.

the people they wanna be in real life on here

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hell..agree or disagree....he stated it to the face of gd...NOT via inbox..or IM or that other punk shit...

i fucks with corey on this one...


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i wanna see him walk up to a homo in Chicago and say that shit face to REAL HUMAN FACE, shit i wanna see him say it to my face

just a lil?

lol

go sit down

>I respect this Corey...for real.

like he took a stand or said some deep ass shit
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im dying LMAO

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who in the hell are you to say it's unacceptable? i mean, if you personally dont like to have gay sex, then i think that by all means, you should not have gay sex!

i dont even know why i responded tho cause this is clearly a bait post.

i'm just gon start slappin motherfuckers on sight.

care so much, that u have any feelings about what gay ppl are doing?

why does it matter to u, its not affecting ur life?

thats what i never got, why str8 ppl worry about what gay ppl are doing or have feelings about it at all

there is more str8 ppl in this world to keep urself entertained with

the same with most shit

it aint your life to live
it aint your eternity to burn in hell
lol

so why the fuck do u care??????????



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God fearing/loving country.

Or is that why you're mad?

like, why in the hell is he so concerned with gay sex. he aint gonna never have it!

i dont get how ppl are so bothered...

nigga please.

who the fuck are you to judge how anyone else wants to live their life
.. you must be god

ignorant fuck

dont even waste your energy typing all hyphie like that.

Umm, all I have to add is ya'll gay niggas cool with me. Shit, i dont know where the anger and what not in this post is coming from. And i had prolly 6 analogies in this reply but i dont like none of them. So ima just leave with that, a gay nigga can get a dap from me and talk about clothes/food/sports/music, its like having a friend that fuck fat hoes. I dont love fat hoes, but if my dude do...more power to him.

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motherfuckas in denial claiming gender is social FOH. My Xy chromosome makes me a man.

I'm naturally more muscular than a woman

have a phallus

use testosterone to fuel certain drives (especially sex)

How in the fuck is that social?

I don't put down anyone who us gay or chooses to live gay but that shit is not he norm by a long shot.

(male/female) and gender (that is, to quote Merriam-Webster, "the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex").

I don't hate anybody and everybody has a right to live how they want as long as they don't hurt anybody, but gayness is not normal and that shit is fact. Live how you live, but don't tell me otherwise.

mean,
and who authorizes judeo-christian influenced sinners to set said norms. sexual and gender variations, including homosexual behavior, exists in enough numbers, over a long enough span of time, and in enough species to be seen a bit different than you see it.

but carry on with your biases, when common sense (and more) says judge not, let he amongst you, do unto others, and so on ad infinitum...

how easy to sit on a pedestal and judge something that you don't have to grapple with!

And about it being normal. Umm, sex has a purpose which is lost on gay people. No it is not equatable to casual sex between 2 people of the opposite sex or anything else. It is different from what is funcionally correct and therefore not normal.

certainly doesn't mean your value system is not influenced in the exact ways i've said (when convenient of course).

sex has many functions. should barren people stop having sex?

how is it not equatable? and if gay sex is functionally possible, what does your argument even mean? the asshole clearly can stretch enough to accomodate a dick.

and where do all these sad arguments factor in with lesbian sex?

And as glorious as lesbian sex is, it's not normal.

everyone does not NEED to engage in reproductive sex.
very few of us engage in solely reproductive sex.
AGAIN, should barren people stop fucking?

there are animals that engage in sex for play (non-repro.), there are animals that engage in homosexual sex for play. what is to account for their abnormality?

It's not natural knowledge so the question doesn't stick.

And about the animals I think homosexuality is a genetic deviancy, a mutation if you will.

EDIT: To make it more clear: We have sexual urges so that our genetic existence goes on. That is their purpose. That isn't true for gay people. Different, see?

>It's not natural knowledge so the question doesn't stick.
>
huh?

>And about the animals I think homosexuality is a genetic
>deviancy, a mutation if you will.

so is the opposable thumb.
>
>EDIT: To make it more clear: We have sexual urges so that our
>genetic existence goes on. That is their purpose. That isn't
>true for gay people. Different, see?

if you take man as solely an animal, this logic stands. i believe there are many reasons for many human (and primates and more) behaviors that are bonding/social.
and in truth, we have not even come close to figuring out teh sole reason for anything. what makes you feel that you truly know the purpose of sexual urges? these assumptions are dangerous, particularly when used to invalidate/judge/marginalize another.

*smh*

scientifically speaking of course...what is normal vs. what is deviance. The ideal that homosexuality is a deviance because it goes against the purpose of sex is an ideal farfetched to OKPS. I want to say it's because most of them don't roll with science like that so they can't see what you are trying to say. It has nothing to do with religion, it's what is functional for man's survival on Earth. And yes I agree with that ideal too and yes I do realize that anal and oral sex (between a man and a woman is not functional too so it's not calling anyone out).

They not going to understand fam.

how often do you have sex for the intended purpose of reproduction vs. the purpose of attaining pleasure?

how often do you think that's true for most people?

just that from a scientific standpoint (me having a degree in bio/minor in chem) I would agree with what he says. When we break down the act of heterosexual vaginal intercourse, it's not a mystery what the purpose of sex is for. This is not really debatable.
Whether or not that's the REASON why people have sex is irrelevant.

The purpose of sex is reproduction. Animals go into "heat" because that is the prime time for them to become or get another animal pregnant.

The reason why we do it is because it feels good. It brings us closer to our mates. (intimacy). It's an expression of love.

it's two seperate things and yes I am guilty of having sex for many reasons but not for the actual purpose. I am just discussing now. as a biologist this is what I believe. as a human, I love sex just as much as the next person. It's fun.

purpose of sex and that we DID.

I think we offered up reasons that we engage in sex outside of reproduction. (and this is for both straight and gay couples, I don't want this to be any type of attack cause hell, I dont have sex to have babies) This is purely from a scientific standpoint and we cannot argue (scientifically) that there is any other purpose for sex but reproduction.

that homosexuality was the Devil's plan to end the world. LOL.

If the gay is the Devil's plan to end the world, he's failing miserably.

I discounted bisexuals because, well, they can and often do reproduce.

Even still, many gay people will reproduce and have kids.

if focussing on the next person's lifestyle makes you feel better *about* your OWN lifestyle (which undoubtably has more than enough areas of "concern"), carry on...

and please do continue to couch your questionable attitudes in a feigned concern for the community!

Like others have said why u care so much? Explain yourself. What u mad about? A zillion mfs could be having gay sex (and they are) and this effects u how? Nothing is worse then a self-righteous person sceaming on other people when they not even halfway righteous themselves.

Why don't some of u who claim homos aren't normal clarify what normal is.

Is flying in a plane normal?
Is watching tv normal?

What does normal mean? There have been millions and millions of homos thoughout history how can it not be normal?

>I don't agree with it at all and I hope you all see the double standards that you're perpetuating in our community by treating it as being acceptable.

You and others sound more like you don't agree w/ the normalization of homosexuality rather than the sexual identity itself. For you, OKP was representative of a place where gayness could remain marginalized, and clearly that isn't happening. Sorry.

But I agree with you about being entitled to your opinion, and no matter how out of step it may with the social changes occuring on the web and in the real world, please continue to express it.

i never logged off so quick in my life the other day

all the tweens too WTF middle school kids

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ive accepted it as something that goes on. the only thing i DONT like is when people lie and hide and all that shit and i believe i stated so in that post. thats always my thing. u do what u do but PLEASE give everyone who deals with u the honor of being able to make an informed decison in dealing with yo azz.

u kno thats just...wrong LOL

I can't believe no one caught that (pardon the pun)

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that would be fine, but it doesn't work that way.

Instead, the gay agenda and their civil rights are the top priority over racial minority groups woes even in presidential debates.

How did we get here?

Is this the new culture and everyone is suppose to get aboard or else?

With the current state of African American relationships, we don't want to admit that we can't do what they do.

Loose lifestyles, aids and homosexuality are killing us.

Since no one wants to address the sin, it will continue to do so.

as for me and my house...you know the rest.

and as an American, that should be my right.

if i want to raise children to view homosexuality the way most people did just 15 years ago, it should not bother any one.

but it does and why?

have we 'evolved' beyond the Word?

yes, sin is sin, but that still doesn't take away from the penalty.

and to that, each is own.

(stupid comments deserve equally stupid replies. I am not advocating for women to be repressed as they were before the 20th century. I'm pointing out a serious issue with your statement.)

It's not a "gay agenda" (who invented this dumb-behind term?) pushing these issues to the forefront of politics; its dogged opposition from right-wing political partties and groups. So you have gay activists pushing back from the other end, and twe all know that conflict and struggle makes for good media fodder.

To be perfectly honest, though, black folks as a whole might stand to learn something from gay activists (I know I am), because the vast majoritiy of black folks parade through life like ain't nothing wrong. No AIDS crisis, no issues with poverty and tenagers turning to crime, no urban decay, etc. Don't blame black folks' disinterest in social progress on gay people's interest in the same.

As far as "sin" is concenred, last time I checked, there was a seperation between church and state. Which means that people who choose not to follow a religion or to follow one different from Christianity should not have hteir rights restricted as a result, so long as what they want to do does not harm anyone else.

If you want to raise your kids to be homophobes, fine. That's your problem. It's also your right, so long as they don't extend such homophobia to violence or business dealings as adults, under which case they'll (in many places) be under violation of the law. Wouldn't it make better since to raise them to respect people, reguardless of what they do? I mean, are you also rasing them to hate fornicators (that's a lot of them, strong-willed women, people who don't go to church on Sunday, and everyone else who violates the Bible? Or do you and everyone else just pick gays because they're easy targets? Why aren't you rallying against fornication and adultry, and wishing America could go back to outlawing those?

>you have gay activists pushing back from the other end,

And when I got down on my knees that night to pray
I asked God why you let these killers live and take my homeboy's son away

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unprotected hetero sex?

HIV/AIDS?


Do people still believe that HIV can't be transmitted heterosexually?



The problem with this whole stance is that it's simple personal opinion unsuccessfully purported as being based on fact, though that supposed fact is erroneous. Among other things.

I'm cool with all my brethren. But there is higher risk in anal sex. Theres micro tearing in the anus and that increases the risk of disease transfer. That in and of itself makes it imperative that gay men(and niggas that like to fuck girls in the ass) be extra choosy about partners and wear protection. Also, dont skimp on the lube. That is all. I could care less who people fuck, just be safe and know the real pros/cons of activities.

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About to get beat down by gay dudes!!! LOL, Crich...I don't know what to say. I get your points, but since when is it better to place your points on a shit platter??

I'm tired of the I'm gay this and that...or the, Who should I let fuck me in da ass??? but I just don't click on those post. I'm sure if I talked about eating pussy (I'm the GOAT)...they'd probably pass up that post too unless they're a gay woman.

Point being - You shouldn't even care...I know I don't.






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yall could make 1000 post about eating pussy (and yall do) but i wouldnt be tired, offended or bothered by them

because i truly dont care

whereas u losers are having stomach aches over the shit

Are you calling me a loser??? Nigga, I was on your side!!!

FAGGOT


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and im just pointing that out, its cool tho, u cant help it

>and im just pointing that out, its cool tho, u cant help it


Ok, I'll accept that and I apologize for the "gay slur". On the REAL fam, I'll admit to being conditioned AGAINST the gay culture. I grew up in the 70s so my perception was formed well before tolerance became the norm.

In school, we used to call the weak kids "fags" and the whole bit. I'm not supporting that behavior, but I'm not going to say that I'm a horrible person for doing things like that. My crew still uses the word faggot to describe something (or someone) that's not cool.

I said that to say this...It's going to take a LOOOOOONG time for gay culture to be considered NORMAL behavior. Even though it's been around "forever"...you'll still see and hear things that'll hurt you.
Here's one thing I can say for sure...all gay people are 1st generation gays. Meaning that, DUHHH...two straight people made you and somehow, you're homosexual. That's a lot for people to deal with when you've been raised as a straight man or woman.


Give it some time...Black people didn't see things change the day after civil rights were enacted. There hasn't been a "national gay revolution.


Get over it because it IS different from the REAL norm!!!






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Didn't take a second for the FAGGOT to come out lol. U are no different from alot of white folks, "nigger" is just one pissed off second from emerging from the lips.

I didn't call him a fag until he referred to me (and others) as losers. He NEVER read my post completely so I blasted his ass for the diss.

So what, I called him a faggot. Why do you care?? You must be one too!!!



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your own words. How old are U? I think that makes a difference in your understanding of life. I just pointed out that as soon as you were upset with him the first thing u did was go for "faggot" its no different from a white person going for "nigger" as soons as a black person pisses them off. The bigot is just below the surface.

Then why don't you analyze him getting upset and calling people losers. The only difference is that YOU are biased and only wish to discuss this from one angle.

I suggest you read my initial post...look at his response and you'll see my point. Well, maybe you won't since you're still acting like an idiot.

My views were right in the middle and that's where I stand. You apparently are standing in a shower with some gay dude getting fucked. LOL



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It seems u can't respond without some gay innuendo. Why is that? Why are u fixsated on the gay sex? Why do u try to defend yourself by trying to defame me? Try answering those questions for your own enlightenment not mine.

This is a post about gay shit. Why would that word be off the table? Here's the deal, I can say whatever I want to say to make my point when I feel like dissing someone, the only thing you can take from that is MY response to THEM and NOT my global views on gays.

It's obvious to me that you STILL haven't read my initial post to see that I was defending the right for gay post PERIOD.

If you're going to focus on my use of those words...that's YOUR problem. I'm not going to apologize for dissing someone because that's what people do when they're offended by someone. You're focusing on this gay shit because it's YOUR shit.

I REPEAT...I expressed my support for gay post and some fag misread my post and dissed me. So yes, I called him a fag...


FAG





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its gonna be too funny, ima be like u love this FAGGOT DICK dont u boo?

after i had responded LOL how lame, tricky u held it down in this post

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I'm staying out of this for purely religious reasons. I be picking the wrong times to log on.

and ill leave it at that

lol

altho not as rah but thats great because u r ur own person, im talking about the number of GAY/BI posters who lurk these post an act like they aint just as offended or weirded out by this stuff

I did however misunderstand what you meant by y'all. I thought you were talking about the breeders.

Miss me with the snark.

I'm trying to make an idiotic post more idiotic by e-beefing.

maybe we should examine the psychology behind that.

THIS is why.

YOU.

never go to ATL Okp events, who wants to be around str8 ppl that u dont have too, let alone that u met on the internet (some are cool but most ill pass on)

the other primary reason being we are too cool for that and have friends outside of okp lol

it's not like i really kicked it w/them on a regular basis before this post, but this has sealed it.

CRich has come to represent all of them (except for a select few...meaning 2). and they can all kiss my black faggot ass after this.

and I probably won't be in Chicago come June.

Overall it seems like a decent group of folk, but then you see stuff like this. Kind of a downer.

i could kick myself for that.

i should have known better.

i should have remembered you actually ARE the vile "pimp" character you play here on these boards. i should remember you, Corey, are as pathetic and see-through as "CRichMonkey". it's my fault for giving you the benefit of the doubt. i won't make that mistake again.

hopefully you'll leave Chicago before i have to see your monkey ass again.

don't feel like that. just be glad that you now see who he really is. i don't think there's anything wrong or regretful about giving people the benefit of the doubt until you have more information. now you do and no more of your precious energy needs to be wasted.

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p.s. "monkey ass" was funny :)

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I have so many issues with the points people decide to defend and attack in this debate than the actual lifestyle...

a.)What the fuck is this NORMAL people keep talking about...i have never actually met a single person in my life who is NORMAL...why...because normal is some dream that boring people thought life should be like until they realized how much fun it is to be different...NORMAL is something gets tangled up with morality and religious ideals which scares me more often then comforts me

b.) People acting like they know what humans true nature is..."oh look at me...i was born gay/straight" No dimwits...straight/gay really might just be lifestyles that people choose...ive met some feminine ass male kids and plenty tomboys...but when a baby is born there is no way to determine whether that baby is gay or straight...its crying, shitting, and earling...gays and straights act as if the nature vs nurture question has been answered when it comes to sexuality...as if life didnt just shape them into the homo they are...All i know is i like women...why? lots of reasons...why not men...i dont even enjoy masturbating why would i wanna fuck a man?...just because i feel like its impossible for me to be sexually attracted to a man doesnt mean thats how i was born...was it a choice...i think it was a lot of choices my parents, me, and people around me that "made" me straight

STOP ASSUMING YOU KNOW HOW YOU BECAME YOU...yea...u were there...but for many of those years your mind/body/awareness wasnt developed enough to fully understand sexuality...u werent even the top authority of becoming you until well after puberty

c.)People have been getting high, cheating, whoring, murdering, sodomizing, raping, pillaging, and doing tons of things considered immoral (to modern society) since the land before time (the original littlefoot) came out. One thing that hasnt changed however is that those who have power (in numbers or resources) usually are the authority on what is socially acceptable...

acceptable and normal are different...for example...if pedophiles had enough numbers and resources...that shit might actually become legal...

d.)there is no gay sex...its oral, vaginal, anal...or maybe just vaginal and anal, lol, thanx to good ol Bill

e.) stop whining "the gay experience is different and not comparable to blah blah blah's experience"...thats just a stupid argument period...STOP IT..."u can hide your gayness"...ever hear of "passing"

the only people who dont see them as comparable are those who are straight and black and who put their extra black non-slave experiences above the fact that sodomy is still illegal in some states...social and racial minorities are always comparable...STOP IT

final point.) ok...i over did it now but i hate when people who think they are the human sexuality expert simply because they are homosexual/straight as if that qualifies them to judge who is and isnt homophobic or acceptable as if that should matter to anyone..."if it doesnt affect you...why should it concern you"...a drastic example...darfur...obviously far different than homos but my point is...we all tryin to make sense of each other...when most of us make little sense to begin with...

i think once people concede they dont have as strong a grasp of their lifestyle choices we can actually have an honest debate of whether its normal, acceptable, a choice, safe, healthy, moral and all that other dumb shit that politicians will pass bills about

i am not a homophobe but being heterosexual inclines me to disagree with the lifestyle because if i didnt id have tried it by now

STOP IT

otherwise you are just regurgitating shit from old posts.


>Fact is, we condone and enable a lifestyle that is inherently
>dangerous and unhealthy because no one wants to stand up and
>say that its wrong...


you sound like an okactivist, fam

it's all armchair?

or you got stories tell of when you have 'taken this stand'?

that way i know who to stop e-relating with

im updating my list of aint-shit mofos right now.

carry on.

im just like
ech
feeling creepy crawlies
shit is disgusting

post, im glad that shit is out there now so i can avoid them, these ppl ESPECIALLY THE WOMEN be all trying to be buddy with u and then being the biggest homophobes in this post

shit is sick

ppl like urself who can break thru what society has said and be a decent human being and have love for other ppl even if that experience is not ur own

peace to u sis

my sister is a lesbian and has received NOTHING but support and love from my *entire* family
father brother grandmother aunties ppl in the neighborhood you name it
and it is still unbelievably hard for her

so to see something like this
from someone who is in no way affected by homosexuality
passing judgements and talking nonsense
its sad
and frustrating

im glad that it seems no one who would actually be affected by this drivel takes it seriously
the homophobes are basically jerking each other off
more power to em LOL

is best i never come into contact with a lot of ppl in this post, cause i have a bad temper and i dont hold my tongue or hands for anyone

but peace to u and ur sis, and u still should be commended because some family members act shady too

i am taking notes up in here.

if folk only keep to people who ideas they agree with your wouldn't get the kind of exchange of ideas that provoke progressive thought for some people

at at the end of the day thats what its about expposing yourself to new ideas so you can progress


I think elitism and idealism is harmful when any dangerous and harmful when any group adopts it weather it be young upwardly mobile gays or hard line fundamentalist

there's a level of respect i expect from people
whether or not they agree with how i live my life
or who i fuck
its lacking, or barely evident here
i see no good reason as to why i would then want to expose myself to
blatant ignorance and stupidity.
its not like i get a prize at the end of the day.

this is akin to you asking me to hang out with the kkk
or with a christian fundamentalist praying for me to be hellbound
or with a backstabber..

uhmm... no. its 2008. plenty places to find info on gay issues
including *here*
if an 'exchange of ideas' is what they are seeking.
im not about to be crucified for my lifestyle *just* to further progress
fuck that bull.

>I think elitism and idealism is harmful when any dangerous and
>harmful when any group adopts it weather it be young upwardly
>mobile gays or hard line fundamentalist

this isn't elitism. its common sense.
i mean, i can be elitist. i choose not to.

but i also dont put myself in emotional harm's way *just* because there's an assumption that you have to relate with mofos
who really dont give twoshits about you.
or just to be all acceping. its a twowaystreet- im not gonna be the only one crossing.
ah ah.

especially the chicks.

gays in general try to push their lifestyles on people far harder than any evangelical.

from the few responses i read, it seems ok to have an opinion on something as long as it goes with the flow around here.

the minute someone disagrees, people get nasty.

why care if some one doesn't agree with it?

it's your life.

why try to force it on some one else?

I mean, I am quite straight, and I live in the 2nd most outspokenly gay city in the country, right in the heart of Gayville...and I don't feel forced upon at all.

So *you* might feel pushed upon, but that's a matter of *your* perspective and opinion, not any objective fact.

in here, YALL CARE ABOUT Our lifestyle, aint nobody trying to force shit on yall, if u dont wanna read about dont click

but that post that goldmind did got over 150 replies so obviously some ppl are interesting in what is going on in his gay life

also u should leave the avi pics alone

>why care if some one doesn't agree with it?
>
>it's your life.
>
>why try to force it on some one else?

read your own shit and KIM

I keep hoping that people are gonna ride against this viewpoint, but no. I hope all you homophobes end up with gay sons and daughters. Enjoy that, because as you "religious" folks like to quote: "you reap what you sow."

just pissing folks off just for the delight of it

I'm lookin more at the overall attitude of OKP on the topic. Lot people already hit it on the head, but there's a whole lot of bullshit in this post.

It's almost 2008. We could have a woman or black man elected president by this time next year. It's just surprising to me to see these views so prevalent. I guess you can be sheltered from ignorance too.

It would be lost in the sauce here.

>I don't agree with it at all and I hope you all see the double
>standards that you're perpetuating in our community by
>treating it as being acceptable.


what wld you have ppl do?
hang them by their toenails?
scream at them when they walk down the street?
beat them?
what?

what does finding or treating 'it' as 'unacceptable' entail?

i gotta admit i'm really disgusted by this
really really disgusted

but this post takes the cake

Why?

Well dare I say it, here it goes: We live in a society where it's okay for two women to have sex, but for two men to have sex, is a destruction of man-kind. Double standard.

If homosexuality should be condemned, it should be applied to ALL. Most importantly, do not flash your homophobia card one minute, and then contradict yourself the next,(especially those who participate in said activities or is on the DL).

Let's just all shut the fuck up and focus on bigger problems in the world...homosexuality being the least.

You can't control how we post, or how we live, or even how your straight companions receive us. I suggest you just get over it, cause your anger over this is just sad.

And lol @ the conversation over what is "normal" and "acceptable." Me and my brethren- and sistren :-D - are redining the parameters for what is "cool" and "acceptable" behavior, because YALL niggas got it fucked up. Homosexuality for heterosexual male pleasure is cool to yall- hence yall's obsession with girls on girls- yet what I choose to do with my partners is innately disgusting? FOH. Since you can't get past your own bigotry, idiocy, and selfishness to help create a world that makes sense and works for us, we are creating this world, ourselves. I'm proud that I am having the time of my life as a young, single, Black, queer man exploring love and sex in some of the most exciting and diverse cities in the world, and I dare one of yall homophobes to try and get in the way of my gangsta.







>Or that its cool, or even acceptable behavior.
>
>It isn't.
>
>Fact is, we condone and enable a lifestyle that is inherently
>dangerous and unhealthy because no one wants to stand up and
>say that its wrong...
>
>The same people that acted appalled over the DL phenomena are
>encouraging wanton homosexual behavior here on the boards and
>you can't have it both ways.
>
>I don't agree with it at all and I hope you all see the double
>standards that you're perpetuating in our community by
>treating it as being acceptable.
>
>
>
>
>my avy: Respect The Architects
>my hustle: www.enfullaffectmarketing.com
>myspace: http://www.myspace.com/coreyrichardson
>*RIP: John T. "220v" Richardson, Blessing Benson, and Dilla*

sick, and nan one of yall can do shit about it :-) so continue to GAG fuckers!!!!!

and found my post platinum, as well as 3 different spinoff posts!
I'm kind of disturbed! I knew there were gonna like it- but I didn't know they were gonna live
lol

doing, ur post turned it and shut the boards down, kudos!

I don't get it.

And I think we're done here.

And when I got down on my knees that night to pray
I asked God why you let these killers live and take my homeboy's son away

I'm homophobic. I know that about myself.

I toss gay slurs amongst my niggaz. I can be insensitive. I try to balance it out.

I'm not a facist about that shit. I just know that about myself...so I ACTIVELY try not to display that part of myself when amongst "mixed" company...so to speak.

But will I call you a "faggot assed nigga".....yes....if I know you're not gay.

That being said...

Allah is the best knower on this one. I believe that its not my place to judge....so I don't.

If I see a post going off on some rampant homosexual activity....I just ignore it. Its not in my wheelhouse....its not my interest....so in short....it ain't FUH ME!

But I won't hate on them having their chance to speak....anymore than I hate on anyone else.

In short....I'm a biggot.
I'm a racist.
And I'm homophobic.

But I know that about myself....and I'm TRYING to be more accepting....
Even if I fail sometimes.

In my humble opinion? You wouldn't know that about me if you've ever met until I actually told you.....

Or until you did some WILD homo shit in front of me and I had to either look away and/or leave the premises.

I'm done.

D

THERE'S SOME PHOBES IN THIS HOUSE.
IF YOU SEE 'EM POINT 'EM OUT
IF YOU SEE 'EM POINT 'EM OUT

To my reasonable, educated people: As we can see, this trifling post has brought out the TRUE nature of certain OKPs. If niggas wanna be homophobic, let them be homophobic- but we shall not let their bigotry be kept under wraps for their own convenience.
Lest we forget, let's list the homophobes- particularly the ones who were previously under the radar, until they came in here and showed they ass.

-Lovelyone80

-Stayls (this one especially disappoints me)

-Ambient1

-LoveJones

i can't even call her out.

i want to be wrong about her.

especially the ones who think they are our allies. when they're confronted w/REALNESS, they can't handle it.

they are our allies as long as we're talking about shopping or doing hair or some bullshit like that. but when it comes to dealing w/us as PPL, you know, getting into our nitty-gritty, they get "disgusted." they start clutching pearls.

fuck them. each and every one of them.

of course, i'm not talking about all women. (i see you, Cube)

just the ones who fit the description.

fuck you, if i'm talking about you.

fuck
you.

If there's one thing I can't stand, it's a Black woman who has the nerve to be homophobic, or better yet, call me a faggot. Because:
1) I will yolk your ass up and choke you with your gotdamn weave. lol

2) These dumb females are working for their OWN oppressors, because misogyny- the cornerstone of homophobia- is set out to subjugate hetero women as well as homos. But I guess some people are too dumb/conditioned to realize what they're doing to other people and themselves. *shrug*

>2) These dumb females are working for their OWN oppressors,
>because misogyny- the cornerstone of homophobia- is set out to
>subjugate hetero women as well as homos. But I guess some
>people are too dumb/conditioned to realize what they're doing
>to other people and themselves. *shrug*

d

poplock.blogspot.com

>Lest we forget, let's list the homophobes- particularly the
>ones who were previously under the radar, until they came in
>here and showed they ass.

lol

.

and i want a total and complete list.

shit, even 'clipse is barely passing the
'notahomophobe' test with that willy nilly throwing
about of hiv/ stats as tho gay men= hiv
anyone not part of the solution is to me a part of the problem
and i am disappointed.

but yes, im coming back to this post.

soon.
im so disappointed, mayne.

I am really disappointed and disgusted as well.
From what I know, he has been doing HIV outreach for all of his career- and THIS is what he has to show for it?
-Refuting CRichmonkey's vitriol again gays with the limpest of wrists
-Chastizing Black gay men for having anal sex at all
-Telling us to "be like Luther Vandross" and never have sex for the rest of our lives
-Assuming that if Black gay men *do* have sex, it's going to be unprotected and that they're probably going to get AIDS
-Blaming Black gay men for the HIV crisis among str8 Black women

It's sad, and not cute at all. And if this is representative of the tactics of AIDS organizations in NYC, suddenly it's no wonder why the city has a supposed AIDS crisis.
Please graduate from Columbia and make me feel better about the state of Public Health, Akon. lol



>and i want a total and complete list.
>
>shit, even 'clipse is barely passing the
>'notahomophobe' test with that willy nilly throwing
>about of hiv/ stats as tho gay men= hiv
>anyone not part of the solution is to me a part of the
>problem
>and i am disappointed.
>
>but yes, im coming back to this post.
>
>soon.
>im so disappointed, mayne.

makes me really upset :(
i'm really surprised at some of the reactions, responses to this from people who i thought were cool but it was all a front
i mean, i dont really know what else to say but this whole post disappointments me and makes me sad and hurt to know that some of my friends and youngest sis have to face this kind of ignorance, insensitivity... i dunno meanness from people:(


no.

like seriously...


The camel never sees its own hump but that of its brothers is always before its eyes - North African proverb

Xbox360 gamertag: AFRICAN STAR
Add me...

I'm really not concerned about what the next man is doing. My only beef is with the overly flamboyant attention whore type gay dudes. We get it son, you're gay. Good job. Also the grimy down low niggas...passing souvenirs on to unsuspecting shorty's, that's not cool, my condolences go out to them for real. I don't know much about the lifestyle tho, don't care to know anymore than I do.

Ya'll do ya'll, it's really just one less nigga playing interference on you and the shortys. How can ya'll be mad at that?

the thing i dont like is gays are in your face whit the homoness.
maybe its because its been so much on the dl that theyre extreme with it.
"we here we queer ns shit"


like i understand u are gay but i dont need to hear or know that shit.
come fuckin outta the closet and stfu with it already..
i have a childhood friend who is gaysor. in the closet though. pisses me the fuck off.
sayin someshit like "ahh tomorrow ville(a he) is gonna suck my dick allday" FOH.
so iont like gays much.

my father was a waiter at a bar. one time some gay grabbed his ass.
he threw that mofo down the stairs. im like my father.

understand is nobody gives a fuck about what u want to hear and what u don't want to see. U don't have any more right to be then anybody else. That's the big problem "hetero priviledge". You all niggas to dumb to flip that shit and see it for what it is. Its "white privledge" in black face. As the old saying goes "we're queer we're here get used to it". The world wasn't created to make your dumb ass comfortable. U aren't special.

so..

i dont come to your face with how i like pussy.
so you shouldnt come to me wit that homoshit.

or i aint special so i need to hear about ur wilde homo antics?

why u even answered? i told it like i see it.

niggas on here are always talking about their sexual exploits, but when a gay person does it somehow its a problem. Why don't u just ignore it if it doesn't interest u? what's the problem? A man that that gets upset about anything homo has issues with his own manhood otherwise it would be a non-issue. I'm not at all worried, upset, disgusted, or provoked by somebody talking about pussy.

>A man that that gets upset about anything homo
>has issues with his own manhood otherwise it would be a
>non-issue.

i dont have issues with my manhood.
because i dont like gays i must be a closet fag & hav issues with my manhood.

explain that shit with some logic please.

said u were a closet anything? First u say u don't like fags. What does that mean and why? Its as illogical as me saying I don't like Japanese, New Yorkers, or people from helsinki. I don't know all the people from said groups and they are all different people so it makes no sense to dislike them. What has anybody being gay have to do with u? How are u effected by it? It really has nothing to do with u so ask yourself what is there to dislike?

u didnt answer how i hav issues wit my manhood but..

i can clap to that post.. p's

in that they accepted my gay uncle coming out in the 70's when he was in his late teens.... my 80 + year old grandparents could teach many many people on here the meaning of true love for life and real selflessness... cos that's what be homophobic is, a selfish and arrogant way of thinking

They love him as much as any one of their other 6 children and their lives were made better because he's in it.

Kudos to your family. Reading this thread just reinforces my belief that most humans are supremely selfish and uncaring (even those who run around calling themselves christians). U would think that black people of all people would understand getting the short-end of the stick but no we haven't learned anything as a people. It seems most only thought of civil rights as a why for them to get theirs. And don't understand the humanist principles it represented.

homosexuality at the level you think they do.

300+ responses in here and the majority of them are co-signing you and/or going even further to express their disdain for homosexuality.

homophobia is quite prevalent on OKP, despite your claims.

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Miguel "Body Blow Bolo" Cotto
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MigmBs2GCuE
^get familiar

"Homosexuality and the Effeminization of Afrikan Males"

It really is a great read. Here is some commentary about the book:

Homosexuality and the Effeminization of Afrikan Males begins with an Afrikan Centered investigation into the origins and historical evolution of homosexuality. This elemental study expands into a detailed analysis of the most important part of this work, the growing gender confusion of Afrikans socialized into European culture and society. The historical relationship of white supremacy, based in the real and perceived threat of Afrikan males, to European global cultural imperialism/hegemony provides the foundation for these arguments. In plain terms, there is a direct relationship between the forced enslavement of Afrikan males into European society, the ongoing fear of Afrikan men by European men, the racist economic order that has gradually but systematically reduced its need for Afrikan labor since the official end of the Afrikan’s physical enslavement and the subsequent growing effeminization of a significant number of Afrikan males in this Western society. The process and desired result of this effeminization process is a significant part of the means by which European society seeks to reduce/eliminate the potential expression of a righteous rage by Afrikan men. This methodical demasculinization manifests itself in numerous ways and rationales, from within the prison system to higher education to single parenting to the labor market to the church to the media, all of which are thoroughly discussed in this book. At the base of this assault is the historical confusion and cultural alienation of Afrikans themselves. If people act toward any problem without historical awareness, for all problems are located in history, then in all probability they act wrongly or, as many prefer to say, they do no more than react. Therefore, many of us who are alarmed over this growing sexual confusion are mostly reacting to what is being done to our sons. And, because of this, we are unable to effectively arrest the European psychosexual assault on them. We do not see ourselves as powerful enough to stop others from turning our sons into their daughters. In the Western cultural context, men fear men, not women. And European men fear Afrikan men for many good reasons. They understand that the best way to significantly reduce this threat is to turn your enemy’s males into females so that they make themselves into nonthreats. Blame for powerlessness in the face of assault falls on the victim. That undeniable truth is what this book attempts to explain in as great a detail as possible so that Afrikans can act on a deeply informed Afrikan interpretation, and not a European fiction, of Afrikan traditions.

attack by The Man to suppress a "righteous Afrikan (sic*) rage?

Negro, _please_. Next, y'all'll tell me (again) that white people invented gayness

"I don't know why they put the "C" in there to confuse us!" © Charli Baltimore in "Bamboozled"

...with you...

How'd I miss this post days ago?

But I also TOTALLY agree that not one sin is greater than another. The difference between homosexuality and any other sin is that generally, if someone is gay, you can see it in the way they live. It's easier to hide being an adulterer or a murderer...nahmean.

What I can't stand is when people call their "partner" my "wife" or my "husband"...naw dawg...naw.

_______________________

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Miguel "Body Blow Bolo" Cotto
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MigmBs2GCuE
^get familiar

...*looks for "Biblical homophobia"* Naw...nothing in here...

I'm far from homophobic...I love my mama and the other woman who raised me too much to be homophobic. However, wrong is wrong.

Good thing for me Jesus is real or else, I'd be right along with those who haven't accepted Christ. Which is what really matters...I could care less about people's lifestyles but saying that homosexuality is *okay* is like saying I was *okay* when I was sleeping with people's husbands...I wasn't. Again, thank God for Jesus...

*shrugs*

1 of my best friends is the First Gentleman at his husband's church in ATL. i hear it's huge. the church, not my friend's husband's dick.

anyway yeah. ministers are great.
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What?

>I'm far from homophobic...I love my mama and the other woman
>who raised me too much to be homophobic. However, wrong is
>wrong.

wrong is wrong? Is there an objecitve consensus from the Most High that deems homosexuality wrong?

>Good thing for me Jesus is real or else, I'd be right along
>with those who haven't accepted Christ. Which is what really
>matters...

not sure how this factors into this discussion -- does Jesus tell us that homosexuality is wrong?

I could care less about people's lifestyles but
>saying that homosexuality is *okay* is like saying I was
>*okay* when I was sleeping with people's husbands...I wasn't.
>Again, thank God for Jesus...

yea...biblical homophobia at work once again.

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Miguel "Body Blow Bolo" Cotto
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MigmBs2GCuE
^get familiar

...thank this.

Try again.

Oh, and the Bible, is where I've read that homosexuality is wrong...as well as adultery...like I said.

Do whatever. It is what it is.

when we get there we can have a mani-pedi, and i'll tell you about the time i cleared out a going-away party so i could fuck a racist white guy in the ass. it was an act of revolution. i was moving the movement.
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Nice try tho.

Having nothing to do with homosexuality...this all having to do with salvation.

Rom 10 v.9 says "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
It doesn't say anywhere near this that, "you will be saved so long as you do these things and aren't a homosexual..." *shrugs*

Romans 10 v.9, I believe it and I've done this...so hell for Nina, naw...not happening.

so anyway, after the mani-pedis we'll rent Sex & the City DVDs and i'll tell you about the time i almost had sex w/2 twin brothers at the same time. it was going to be the hottest sex ever. but 1 of them was too drunk to go through w/it and his brother had to take care of him.
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...and I'll tell you about the time I had a husband AND his wife...*shrugs* And about the two brothers *I* wanted to have but THEY were too drunk and how having two men has always been my *fantasy*...*shrugs*

And THEN I'll tell you about how a fantasy is just that...a fantasy and I finally realized ain't no point in fulfilling all fantasies because then it won't be a fantasy...

...and how I realized that I WAS a whore trying to get down with two men at once and how God put a mirror up in my face one day and I couldn't stand the woman that I had become and I decided then that I had to do something different. I'll then go on to tell you how five years later I am a WHOLE new woman but I STILL have to make a concious effort to not go back to that woman...but I know that it's possible...it hasn't been easy but I'm doing it.

So what else shall we talk about?

*sips wine*

and recite all the key lines.

then i'll tell you about the time i ended up in an orgy in a bathhouse purely by accident b/c i ran into a friend who was participating. and how as hot as orgies sound, they're not really all that hot. or maybe there were just too many ppl. sex gets really weird when there are more than 3 ppl involved.
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This. Is comedy.

Maybe I should do one of those "ask me anything posts" to help ya'll better understand...maybe not.

im coming for u ninanin

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...and certainly not a threat.

I am amazed at the amount of...I am amazed. I have sat up and joked with all of "you gays" before and have never come at ya'll sideways...but that's cool. If this is how ya'll wanna treat me, life will go on...

I seriously pictured you saying this with dentures.

Whatever "joking around" you did in the past sort of floats away when you co-sign a post like this and make the comments you made.

this shit went up yesterday at like 12 and was platinum by 1 EST

lol

After all the replies I figured it must've started at LEAST on Tuesday.

who exactly is a gay person sinning against? Who has been hurt or done wrong? Some people would call u a whore for wearing what your wearing in that pic and say u are sinning for being a harlot. I would find that silly the same way hating on a gay person is silly. I'm sure you are not dressing like that to offend God with your whorish ways are u?

...ya'll clearly aren't reading what I'm typing.

Get it right. Re-read then, come holla at me. And, if you knew ANYthing about me as a poster, you'd know that "Bible thumping" has never been my style.

just worry about your own soul not be judging anyone else. I think that judging is a sin also.

I have only said what the word says...again, re-read all that I've posted and get back with me when you're really ready to have this discussion. Don't come half steppin' to me, you will ALWAYS be shut down.

I have NO place to judge in this world...and won't. What people do is between them and God...I have to go to lunch. I'll holla at ya'll in a min.

you've made moral judgements numerous times in this very thread and deemed homosexuality as 'wrong' --- you are indeed making a judgement that is not up to you to make.


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Miguel "Body Blow Bolo" Cotto
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MigmBs2GCuE
^get familiar

...judging is NOT what I'm doing. I disagree with homosexuality based on my faith in Christiantiy and the words that are in the Bible...*shrugs*...think what you want, I'm done explaining myself.

Could it be that people are *so* defensive because they feel...could that be *guilty*.

The Bible *does* say that homosexuality is wrong...oh, I've said that before and for you scholars, you've read it. *walks out*

Ain't no love loss...

gurl u r a read

Bisexual, hardly. But I suppose that depends on the definition of "bisexual"...Maybe I'm not sure. Point is, that's not me now.

When did you get such great distaste for me? Was it when I decided to no longer go in circles with you in religious "banter" and said so? Am I wrong for that? I didn't think so. I wasn't rude to you then, and never have been. As a matter of fact, I've been quite loving towards you in the past...but when I disagree with you, you come at me with this "dumpy ass...ooh...look at the bisexual" nonsense. *smh*

I decided to not go in circles with you then, and I'm not going to now. Just re-think your reaction to people...especially when they've done nothing wrong towards you.

The difference between homosexuality and any other
>sin is that generally, if someone is gay, you can see it in
>the way they live. It's easier to hide being an adulterer or
>a murderer...nahmean.

It's easier to hide a dead body than a gay partner?

...and how many murders go unsolved every year and then think of the number of homosexual couples you see day to day...right. Exactly.

Again, when people commit adultery, they normally try (and are able) to hide it in hotel rooms, far away vacations, at work, church (WHAT?! NOT CHURCH), the other side of town...


When people lie, they generally cover it up with other lies...

Now you're arguing for the sake of arguing and that's what I won't get involved with...God bless ya anyhow...

SOMEBODY'S GONNA COME LOOKING FOR THEM. Most murders are NOT unsolved. It is NOT easier to hide being a murderer than hiding being gay. The number of gay men and women in the closet far exceeds the number of covert murderers who are wily enough to adequately cover their tracks. Every gay person isn't some flaming queen or butch lesbian that can be "easily identified"...in fact, the vast majority aren't.

As far as adultery being more easy, you're obviously factoring out the large number of gay people who go to cruising areas, secret meet up spots, etc., and don't let anyone in on their sex life but their partner(s).

As far as "day-to-day homosexual couples", I've seen _very. few._ gay couples outside of gay functions or festivals. I'm talking _maybe_ twice a month. I don't know where you live, but if it's that much of an issue, perhaps you should consider moving.

I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm still in shock that you believe it's easier to hide murder (MURDER!) than homosexuality. I know "no sin is greater than the other", but let's toss secular morality (read: "common sense") into this as well:

-Murderers take peoples' lives.
-Adulterers take peoples' spouses.
-Homosexuals (and a "DL brotha" is a BIsexual, not a HOMOsexual) don't do anything that impairs the lives of other people (and no, "feeling uncomfortable" is not an impairment. Being murdered or having your hubby stolen, however, is.)

Forgive me if I don't reply to this thread anymore (heck, you probably didn't even read this). And God bless you as well.

and i miss all the good shit

i'll never understand why people on this site worry so much about what other folks do
it's almost like people judge others as a way to elevate themselves
and it's sad
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Is Crich now the Clemens of the OKhomos? The dude they all suspected but couldnt pin it on?

Will he come back like Giambi talking some half-ass apology and regain acceptance?

and i want to be able to respond to some of this shit.

lets give it some time.

i think 400 replies is enough.

but SEND THESE REQUESTS TO MY INBOX DAMMIT (good thing someone did) =)

myself included.

There's some N's and B's really lettin' they hair down in this post.

All these people that just gripped their far-righty hat from Lids...tag and sticker still on it and everything. I guess Huckabee got all y'all votes, eh?

Unbelievable.

If only y'all were that passion about taking over this country and sticking it to white people.

One that I don't agree with.

>One that I don't agree with.


wow.so much backpeddlin

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what the fuck.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aIUZlzd37sI&feature=related

1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
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2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
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3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
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4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchasedfrom neighboring nations. A friend of mineclaims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can`t I own Canadians?
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5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. The passage clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
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6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10; Is it a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don`t agree. Can you settle this? Are there `degrees` of abomination?
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7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have adefect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses.Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
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8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?
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9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

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