North Carolina has always had a rich music history and I feel that state is on the come up in hip hop with the Justus League crew, K-Hill, Shelly B, Kaze, Supastition, Kooley High, M1 Platoon, J. Bully, ect, and production wise 9th Wonder, E. Jones, DJ Forge, Black Jeruz, Khrysis, Jah Freedom, K-Hill (he produces too), ect. I also feel that middle east/mid atlantic movement they have with VA, DC, and MD. How do you feel about NC hip hop?

They don't really play local artists around here. Furthermore, when they do, they play the wack ones.

they played all the local groups.

Yaggfu would stop by & played "exclusive" NC only tracks like "Luau" or "Lena's Orgasm".

It kinda hipped me to the fact that others in this area are hip to and surprisingly enthusiastic about NC hip hop, The Justus League, Supa, DJ DR, etc and not just the handful of us who all end up at the same events.

However, I do remember a time in the mid 90's when WPEG (97.9 FM)would play a track by 2 local acts at 8pm and have callers call in on a weekly basis to "Kiss/Diss" it. Needless to say, shit ain't goin down now.

now it's just a battle between two singles that are already in the rotation. There aren't any local artists in it anymore. 97.5 basically had to give Little Brother a few spins after the 4.5 mics in The Source.

I swear, their still trying to push this whole "Crunk City" thing on that station and they couldn't sound more fake. And it's jacked up because half of the niggas in NC really would respond to rappers like Phonte before someone like Petey Pablo.


"Being the bigger man is overrated." -- Huey (The Boondocks)

"But today's black leaders, I'm afraid, have become leading blacks. And don't ever confuse leading blacks with black leaders." --Dr. Julia Hare.



http://www.myspace.com/dozingoff

>now it's just a battle between two singles that are already
>in the rotation. There aren't any local artists in it
>anymore. 97.5 basically had to give Little Brother a few
>spins after the 4.5 mics in The Source.
>
>I swear, their still trying to push this whole "Crunk City"
>thing on that station and they couldn't sound more fake. And
>it's jacked up because half of the niggas in NC really would
>respond to rappers like Phonte before someone like Petey
>Pablo.
>

Truth be told though, I'm shocked when I hear Kweli on the radio, so I know I'd be shitfaced if they played LB.

From what I get from my visits to NC about all them niggas would respond to Phonte before Petey it's maybe your radio stations being mainstream dickriders riding on whats hot (same with my state, SC radio). I see more influences from up north in carolina hip hop then down south, maybe it's because we're in the middle of the east coast between the north and south along with VA, DC, and MD which is why they have the middle east movement.

I can't forget about the vet Ski Beats he's one of the best.

for some of these artists.

Sadly, I haven't heard of some of these artists (although they're from here).


"Being the bigger man is overrated." -- Huey (The Boondocks)

"But today's black leaders, I'm afraid, have become leading blacks. And don't ever confuse leading blacks with black leaders." --Dr. Julia Hare.



http://www.myspace.com/dozingoff

>From what I get from my visits to NC about all them niggas
>would respond to Phonte before Petey it's maybe your radio
>stations being mainstream dickriders riding on whats hot (same
>with my state, SC radio). I see more influences from up north
>in carolina hip hop then down south, maybe it's because we're
>in the middle of the east coast between the north and south
>along with VA, DC, and MD which is why they have the middle
>east movement.

Well K97.5 is a Clear Channel station so you know what time it is
with that.

This is so true:

>I swear, their still trying to push this whole "Crunk City"
>thing on that station and they couldn't sound more fake. And
>it's jacked up because half of the niggas in NC really would
>respond to rappers like Phonte before someone like Petey
>Pablo.

And, this is also the reason why I don't listen to the radio.


Gangstalicious

Rhymes too vicious

Eat emcees all day, mmm, delicious

(c)Gangstalicious (Mos Def), The Boondocks

>However, I do remember a time in the mid 90's when WPEG (97.9
>FM)would play a track by 2 local acts at 8pm and have callers
>call in on a weekly basis to "Kiss/Diss" it. Needless to say,
>shit ain't goin down now.

Honestly there is a lot of talent in NC but speakin for Durham these are some of the most NON-SUPPORTIVE, jealous and hatin ass muhfuckas I have ever seen in my life. Cats from Durham are some of the most closed minded fake assholes I've ever encountered. I'm definately not shitting on the Bull City cause I'm born and bred but it's a goddamn shame that we really don't support our own.

165135

Shelly B- http://www.myspace.com/shellyb1

K-Hill (also produces)- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=18074352

Kaze- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=42269852

J.Bully- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=36061526

Kooley High- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=98334600

Rapsody (lady of the group)- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=38582526

M1 Platoon- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=212067205

Supastition- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=393544

Johnny Madwreck (also produces)- http://www.myspace.com/madwreck

The Others (his group)- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=5741027

Jozeemo- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=44295974

Producers-

D.R. (from The Others group)- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=41890316

E. Jones- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=49584195

Ski Beats (the vet)- http://www.myspace.com/skibeatzmusic

DJ Forge- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=3430950

Jah Freedom- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=18839572

Just a few of the NC talents

Endless Mic: http://www.myspace.com/endlessmic1 <---Real good group

Small World: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=92166386 (with DTP)

Tyler Hipnosis: http://www.myspace.com/tylerhipnosis (another NC artist that was a myspace find)

Wow Endless mics are too dope thanks for putting me up on them.

It doesn't seem like many people know about them either... I think it's because they are on Trekky which is more of an indie rock type label.

edit* also, I can't believe this post has gotten this kind of a response

LEGACY on it...shouting out all those NC people...but no Legacy?!?

LOL...okay *edited out the snark* Let me stop before lurkers catch feelings.

GET FAMILAR:
www.myspace.com/ihatelegacy

I also left out JL people in my post (#22) cause I think that most people know about them already...but also

Median: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=7509252

Edgar allan floe: http://www.myspace.com/eafloe

Sean Boog: http://www.myspace.com/seanboogoftheawayteam

Chaundon: http://www.myspace.com/chaundon

Nicolay: http://www.myspace.com/nicolay (he here now!)

cesar comanche: http://www.myspace.com/cesarcomanche

LB: http://www.myspace.com/littlebrother

9th: http://www.myspace.com/9thwondermusic

It's tough not to miss anyone....

The Justus League is what you need!

Diablo Archer: http://www.myspace.com/diabloarcher

K-Slack: http://www.myspace.com/kslackontheboards

J. Gunn: http://www.myspace.com/jgunnmusic

Killa K: http://www.myspace.com/killakfromthethyrday

O.N.E. Jones: http://www.myspace.com/wolfpackdrummerboy

P.A.N.A.M.A. G.A.T.: http://www.myspace.com/panamagat

Jamie Cooley: http://www.myspace.com/jacooley

Mic El: http://www.myspace.com/mic_el

Splash G: www.myspace.com/splash

Jim Crow Jackson: www.myspace.com/jimcrowjackson

Dope thanks.

Baltimore is the same. Think about it, if everyone supported their hometown artists, especially a group like LB, they'd do at least like 100,000 at home alone.

Always expect that hate b/c everyone else wants your spot.

I remember when B Rich got signed off that Whoa Now song, by the way that song was on the radio every hour and mixtapes were selling with the song on it, you'd think the city was backing him, dude debuted at like 10K sold.

And people HATED on that dude, I mean, he was wack, but still, you feel like other artists would at least support someone opening up doors, yeah right.

And folks complain about hate, no radio play, yadda yadda on the local level. But as far as radio, that shit ain't for no local folks anyway, they don't have a responsibility to any local artist, their priority is their ad buyers.

Anyhow, the point is that local hate is every local scene until that shit just blows up like Miami or something, until then, niggaz in NC gon hate LB cause they want their spot.

Oh yeah and LB/9th.

Check the myspace links I just posted that's just a few of the talents there. God I wish Petey never came out and gave us a bad first impression hell I wish Timbaland didn't bring him out period. Dude was nothing but a ATL dickriding rapper in a carolina body. Small World he's dope though, he def. knows about the middle east movement he even tells it in interviews.

G.F.E.

AgentStrangeMouth

and the list goes on

thats what i think about NC and rap.

Which makes me dislike Petey even more.

at least that was the case 5 years ago.

I still say that's the case now dispite some dirty south type followers

The Doc's heaviest years of "hip-hop" were spent in SC and The Doc knows cats were into that style music, just no one really made it until now.

The Doc's all for it...

The middle east music?

All that stuff is pretty dope, ITDO

...9th, Nic, Khrysis, LB, Legacy, Median, Supa, Scudda, Thryd Day ..and the rest of the JL members past & present ...NC got a ridiculous amount of talent

Hey homie put me up on Thryd Day.

..but they had some dope tracks with Nicolay & 9th before anyone really knew who they were ..like 2002-3 shit ..i think they post here once in a while

J Gunn, K Slack, & Killa K... all have solo material now...

Groups/Artists:
Yaggfu Front
Black Sheep (Sanford, stand up! Mr. Lawnge's old name: Shorty Doo Wop)
7th Tribe (DJ Sound Machine is still the illest DJ)
Mic Savvy and Merlin
Lords of the Underground (Shaw U!)
Treez of a Different Soil (RIP Notty)
The Nobodies
Tyfu
TICO
DJ Kraze
Duo

Noted Writer:
Dave Tompkins (check your magazines & liner notes)


Live in NC now:
Big Daddy Kane
Terminator X (owns an ostrich farm!)

I didn't know Black Sheep and Lords Of The Underground repped NC I always though they repped NY.

..except for Lord Jazz (i bet people not believing that he comes from Cleveland)

Marley Marl found Lords of the Underground at Shaw U in NC. From there is where they blew up.

Dres & Lawnge met in high school in Sanford NC & formed the group. To hear Dres (who lives in Charlotte) tell it, there was nothing to do in Sanford except HipHop. It has been several years since I've hung out with Lawnge (the last time was to watch a Tyson fight), but back when everyone used to b-boy at a place called Sportsworld (and later The Rink) he was called Shorty Doo-Wop and was as NC as anyone else. Neither of them deny their NC roots.


**funny thing about NC cats - being mid Atlantic, there has always been an authenticity/identity issue here. We're not so southern as Georgia, Texas, or Florida and then again we're not NY either. Cats would often claim some NY roots or status as badges of authenticity.

It is why we can have groups like Yaggfu, Little Brother, and Petey Pablo and not have issues with the dynamics of them. NC takes its sonic cues from all over.

It is comedy though. My friend Damu claimed Far Rockaway ever since I've known him, and he grew up in Garner NC since age 5 or so.



It ain't where you're from, it's where you're at © Rakim.

I live in Miami Beach now...but I'm old (LOL).

NC's claiming of the South is fairly recent. It wasn't a note of pride for a looooooooooong time. All the good HipHop early on came from NY & LA. I remember feeling sneaky about listening UGK in high school.

HipHop started for me in 1980 listening to my older brother's mixtapes with Afrika Bam's "Planet Rock", "Looking For The Perfect Beat", etc. I thought Kurtis Blow was king (The Breaks & Baaaaaaasss-ket-balllllllllllll). I remember being geeked about Run DMC coming out. They were the "new school". LOL

I remember the Fresh Fest where Russell Simmons visited Shaw U & got shot. He vowed to never come to NC again.

I remember the crowd fighting & chasing Rakim & Eric B offstage in Rocky Mount for lip synching a BS show.

The first time the Roots played in NC, I & two friends (Hunter & Dave) brought them to Chapel Hill (DYWM?) just came out (April of 1996 I think). We got Tajj from 7th Tribe to open up for them. I was so drunk after the show that I told Hub I could out play him on bass.

Yeah NC hip hop back then was straight east coast.

...the radio stations were playing better shit than hot97 which turned real fruity around the same time

Fayetteville had some bomb ass radio stations!

>I live in Miami Beach now...but I'm old (LOL).
>
>NC's claiming of the South is fairly recent. It wasn't a note
>of pride for a looooooooooong time. All the good HipHop early
>on came from NY & LA. I remember feeling sneaky about
>listening UGK in high school.
>
>HipHop started for me in 1980 listening to my older brother's
>mixtapes with Afrika Bam's "Planet Rock", "Looking For The
>Perfect Beat", etc. I thought Kurtis Blow was king (The Breaks
>& Baaaaaaasss-ket-balllllllllllll). I remember being geeked
>about Run DMC coming out. They were the "new school". LOL
>
>I remember the Fresh Fest where Russell Simmons visited Shaw U
>& got shot. He vowed to never come to NC again.
>
>I remember the crowd fighting & chasing Rakim & Eric B
>offstage in Rocky Mount for lip synching a BS show.
>
>The first time the Roots played in NC, I & two friends (Hunter
>& Dave) brought them to Chapel Hill (DYWM?) just came out
>(April of 1996 I think). We got Tajj from 7th Tribe to open up
>for them. I was so drunk after the show that I told Hub I
>could out play him on bass.
>
>

This was the Cat's Cradle show right? If so I was so PISSED that night cause I couldn't get off of work to see them. :(

Oh yeah what about Mark Sparks the producer. I got an old compliation CD he put out back in 1996 called "KAKALAKA RAW" lots of talent on that joint. I think he was from Charlotte if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah we aint deep south but we are below the Mason-Dixie so we are definately considered south.

It might be below the dixie line but it along with VA is culturally shifting away from the south due to the MILLIONS of transplants moving there each year. MD and DC are below the dixie line too and was not too long ago considered southern but due to the many transplants moving there not many still considers them southern today and is now culurally mid atlantic (geographically the carolinas, VA, DC, and MD are already mid atlantic). The same is happening to the carolinas and VA.

>Oh yeah what about Mark Sparks the producer. I got an old
>compliation CD he put out back in 1996 called "KAKALAKA RAW"
>lots of talent on that joint. I think he was from Charlotte if
>I'm not mistaken.

I've been telling people about them for years. Somebody stole my tape back in '97.I've been searching for that CD for years. Inbox me that joint please!

Yea let me get a pm too whoever has it.

(Dre) Allah of OKP was also there that night.

That's what I would describe carolina hip hop (middle east/mid atlantic).

i know they went to college together in nc.. and black sheep has reletives and some roots in nc.. but c'mon, lol.. those are nothing but little tidbits of trivia ..

Lords of the Underground & Black Sheep both formed & got their start in NC.
...but that's just "trivia".

...Big Shug and them other cats started it in Boston ...but it wasnt till they went to BK that they got their shit together, got with primo and formed the Gang Starr we know today

later. i remember because i was type surprised.


peace & blessings,

x.

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** i move away from the mic to breathe in

The Nobodies... thats my old crew and I'm still running with them til this day! Good to see someone who REALLY knows the history of NC hip hop. So many groups came out of here but repped other places because it wasn't cool to be from the south back then


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Omniscience The Funky Oneliner and can anyone up some tracks by him?

i definitely remember him. he was the first dude from NC to receive the Hip Hop Quotable in The Source back in the day. he added me on Myspace a few months back. I will try to find the link for it
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One of you guys gave some t-shirts to Monte Smith or Tico (can't remember which) and they gave me one.

i remember those. seven or equinox gave the shirts to Monte i think. damn... that took me way back
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I remember chilling with them back in W-S when equinox was working at Wake Forest. Phatboy, Eagleman, Babyhead....then the Esau album dropped and everything changed....

Can you up some 7th Tribe if you can?

If Tajj or Sound okay it, I'll do it. But being long time friends with both and knowing the history of it, I doubt they'll just let me throw them onto the web.

Thanks anyway.

I lived in NC from 90-98 and attended NCCU. The hip-hop scene was strong. Cats had radio access and were allowed to get on and freestyle or do radio promos. Cats I ran into or knew during that priod:

Wink Moody (K 97.5)
DVS (K97.5)
Big Rob/Earthquake (NCCU)
Trees of a Different Soil
Lords Of the Underground (Shaw U)
Stylez and Phases (group from NY and NJ, attended NCCU, notable member porn star John E. Depth . . . LOL)
Yaggfu Front (NCCU)
AG (was signed to Capitol records but never released an album/ NCCU)
Born (NCCU)
7th Tribe
Troupe (Greensboro)
Big Delph
Devron (producer)
Knotty-head (R.I.P.)
The Nomadz (NCCU)

Only LOTUG and Yaggfu made noise, but only Yaggfu repped NC out of the two. I remember everyone was hyped when Trees and Yaggfu hosted Rap City. Most of these artist were on the same vibe (lyrics and Boom-bap). Big ups to LB and the Justus League for breaking through (somewhat)

Damn, I forgot another NCCU-head, Mike Flowers(Mike City) and his group Choice. They had a song out in 90 or 91 called "I Love it when you Smile" My bad Mike, I still got the 12inch!!

Also producer Mark Sparks repped Greensboro.

>Big Rob/Earthquake (NCCU)
*known him roughly 14 years

>Trees of a Different Soil

>Yaggfu Front (NCCU) *Damage & Spin4th went to NCSU, not NCCU.
*known him roughly 14 years

>AG (was signed to Capitol records but never released an album/NCCU)
*also friends with a producer named Lance & DJ Assassin (Bobby)

>7th Tribe
*known them (Tajj & Sound, etc) roughly 14 years

>Big Delph *known since I was 15 (roughly 20 years now) - he & Knotty were known as Flim Flam right out of high school. I still have one of their original logos.

>Knotty-head (R.I.P.) *known since I was 15....I'm still sad about this. He was the 1st person I ever rhymed with/went to the studio and made a song with. He was a GOOD dude. He actually kept DVS & I from coming to blows one day.

Good stuff comes out of that state.

__________
I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers. (c) Kno

I really love NC I plan on moving there after I finish college.

you can find people like some of those on your list in any state. You got to look and find. But I think Kaze is dope. So is E Jones, Khrysis, DJ Forge. Have yet to hear M-1 Platoon...Kooley High?!?, they are getting better. Rhaposdy is better now under 9th's direction I will admit. Supa is cool too.

Coming from MD and always visiting NC during the summers back in the day (80's-90's)...I've always liked the underground scene, because it actually was more diverse than what we would have here in B-more...I used to even love those Wax Master Torey pause mixes on Durham radio...I would record them and bring the pause mixes back to MD, and my hop hop buddies would fiend over them...

I love listening to anything Justis League...I pray that LB can open more doors for the NC scene so the industry will appreciate the talent from the Tar Heel State...
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I'm the poetical poltergeist I heist tracks from the past
And return em to the present time in rhyme form---Pharoahe Monch, "Extinction Agenda"



www.myspace.com/wisdom31

It was the Scott La Rock tribute right after Criminal Minded dropped.

Once the carolinas gets in the mainstream game it's on for the carolinas really.

they morphed into The Others





"WHO SHOT THE DUCK OUT THE WINDOW??!!!??"

ahhh, why the hell not:
www.myspace.com/18thletter


check us out, mayne:

www.coolanddeadlyreggae.com


Tully "The Dragon" Blanchard
world kickboxing champion

we finally starttin to get recognized for somethin other than petey pablo.

obviously LB had alot to do with that.

here are some other NC links:

myspace.com/presidents919
myspace.com/dezodinero
myspace.com/lowkey919
myspace.com/kalroyale

I had no clue how many of you was up on NC like that.


"Being the bigger man is overrated." -- Huey (The Boondocks)

"But today's black leaders, I'm afraid, have become leading blacks. And don't ever confuse leading blacks with black leaders." --Dr. Julia Hare.



http://www.myspace.com/dozingoff

Me too it surprised the hell out of me but in a good way. :)

http://www.myspace.com/browncompany

MH Reef and Sharp Witty coming outta NC, and probably gonna blow it up soon. I heard they working with Jeruz right now, so Im waiting to check that out. Witty doesnt have a page up, but here's MH page...i think these are old songs, but check em out

www.myspace.com/reefrhymes

Sharp Witty is Tajj of 7th Tribe.

Inbox me.

yep...same cat, different name. had to give up taj because of some shit w/rocafella...dont really know story on that. look out for him tho.

http://rashardga.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/esther_baxter0002.jpg.w300h443.jpg

^^^^He did find her for his video so he can't be all bad. LOL.


"Being the bigger man is overrated." -- Huey (The Boondocks)

"But today's black leaders, I'm afraid, have become leading blacks. And don't ever confuse leading blacks with black leaders." --Dr. Julia Hare.



http://www.myspace.com/dozingoff

That's the ONLY thing I'll give him credit for. :)

any hip-hop from 'round those parts?

they've got a few cats doing it out there
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Hey wheres those links to Omniscience Supa? :)

http://www.myspace.com/omniscence

touch y'all is on that joint


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Thanks.

He's real close to getting signed with Slip n Slide

He's ok, I guess.

http://www.myspace.com/rdot86

Yo,

I'm in Greenville and have been here since 95. Hip hop scene used to be great with Hip Hop night at Peasant's. Merlin and Set-One, Son of Sam, Imperial, Dean, Supa (then known as Blackmel, with the Grassroots Organization, Soul, Logic, I'm sure I'm missing alot of people. Crazy house parties. The scene has really suffered because of a lack of quality venues. People are still doint their thing, but have grown up and mostly moved on. I used to try to put on shows, bringing in J-league, and Supa, K-Hill, etc... Hit me up if you are in Greenville and want to connect.

Another little know NC connection to hip-hop. Pete DJ Jones one of the original NY DJ's that was mentor to Flash, was originally from Raleigh.
I heard another rumor, but don't know if it is true, that one of the guys in Camp Lo was originally from NC. I know they live here now, but not sure where they are from originally. I haven't heard the Bizzie Boys mentioned.


HUSH

Oh yeah the Bizzie Boyz they was the foundation to NC hip hop!

Here's the myspace link- http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=113823326

JURX even though ilyas and don have since moved on

I went to school with K Hill and he shocked the hell out of me when i heard his music because i had no idea wilson was doing it like that.

i know of some dope mc's in NC, but the fact that they are from my state don't mean shit. there are dope mc's EVERYWHERE.


kev



myspace.com/burnin_el

when they had their deal. obvious bias aside, that group consisted of 11 dope ass emcees.

he's gotten better. as dope as hack was on the boards, i was equally impressed with his flow and voice. mystic was jaw dropping with her skills.

i miss their shit. fuck it, i'm bout to put in spinfinity right now.


kev


myspace.com/burnin_el

other group members recognized that lojic as being an amazing lyricist. I haven't heard his newer stuff so I'll have to look him up on myspace. I did hear some of Tay's new material — he's still bringing heat. MSTK's punchlines are untouchable and she has a great voice. Hack's mic skills are slept on but he's more than a just a great producer. And of course Lovejoy was *that* dude.

The follow-up to Spinfinity, Out of Control is worth checkin' too.

>he's gotten better. as dope as hack was on the boards, i was
>equally impressed with his flow and voice. mystic was jaw
>dropping with her skills.
>
>i miss their shit. fuck it, i'm bout to put in spinfinity
>right now.
>
>
>kev
>
>
>myspace.com/burnin_el

i remember their single release show at the cat's cradle back in 1999 i think. that shit was PACKED!

greg (lojic) played me about 3 cd's worth of material 3 years ago before i moved to philly and the only thing he needs is more drive and determination.

kev

actually another promoter in Durham helped us push that show. that shit sold out. i remember the sound was fucked up but that was a great night. definitely a high point. you couldn't tell me the group wouldn't blow that night. unfortunately, corporate politics fucked up that deal.

Mic Savvy & I had a blast doing shows with them.

I was going to Cat's Cradle when it was still in Chapel Hill near the post office on Franklin. I remember catch ATCQ when it moved farther down Franklin (before it moved to Carrboro). I put on a few shows there when they moved to their current location. To this day, chapel hill is one of my favorite cities to see a show.

actually don and ilyas (tanya morgan) freestyled on stage that night.

kev


myspace.com/burnin_el

They were good at the time but the music scene changed right around that time so they like many others switched to doing the "we got to make crunk music to survive or move up north".

and yeah, the stuff I've heard from Lovejoy, Hack and Lateef (Subtle Storm) was decidedly different than what they were producing in the late 90's.

How different?

lil album. one cut on there, 'suspended animation' was stellar.

i know the apple juice kid went off and he on some drum and bass / electronica shit now, right? he was the drummer. they were out of chapel hill - i reviewed their cd back circa Illadelph times.

when i was still doing music reviews for the indy and before i got my column. (and pretending to know what in the fuck was going on in the local scene).

i big upped the underground 88 cats at ncsu, too.

don't let this area fool you, though.

the triangle been 'on the verge' forever. both in hip hop and indie rock. this area is eternally destined to be *this* close to blowing up.

lotta damn talent, tho. i think it has to do w/ the fact that there are so many colleges. lots of cross pollination.

that never did shit for music in maryland, tho.


peace & blessings,

x.

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** i move away from the mic to breathe in

People will get to know Ace Hustle.

guess there's no harm in posting a link at this point. I'll have to dig them out and rip them for y'all (most of my collection is boxed up at the moment)

thx

!!!

Saw them open up for the Roots several years ago & then checked them out a few times after... I always wondered what happened to these guys too. I think a few of them were students at UNC... probably graduated & moved on.

Most of that sound you talking about gets play in NYC more than NC & SC gives it, it's mostly considered just plain old good underground hip-hop cause the radio in the south considers rap music from NC Petey Pablo type stuff or just plain down south or crunk music.

They're both from NC but they really never claimed it much but back then you had to be silent about it until you had enough respect from other known hip-hop cities before claiming a place you truely was from.

Mark Spark contributed to the Brand Nubian stuff.

Didn't he also produced some Salt N Pepa stuff like Shoop?

n/m

Didn't Fanatic prodiuce for Michael Jackson?

I don't know if these mofos are still around. The only one I know personally was Kenny aka Kinetix aka Supreme. He used to make beats for me and my boys when we were trying to rap lol. They were in Unsigned Hype in The Source around '96.

Can you up some stuff from them if you can?

so forgive me if these have been mentioned....

I graduated from Elon in '01 and grew VERY fond of NC hip hop acts such as...

Celinski
Mr. Rozzi
Sankofa (now disbanded but dope!)
DJ Pez
DJ Pro
Somate (disbanded....a little 3 piece from UNC)
Apple Juice Kid

More to come.....

heard some of his stuff on soundclick or myspace last year.

forget the other cat's name that used to rhyme.

peace & blessings,

x.

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** i move away from the mic to breathe in

Pez used to scratch obscure Coltrane shit live at shows. Bro is ill.

Oh cool I'll cop it.

Agreed

"Being the bigger man is overrated." -- Huey (The Boondocks)

"But today's black leaders, I'm afraid, have become leading blacks. And don't ever confuse leading blacks with black leaders." --Dr. Julia Hare.



http://www.myspace.com/dozingoff

n/m

theres plenty of ill cats in nc

cat was nice on the boards and could hold his own on the mic.

Those were the original cats — the DJs that were putting it down EARLY. They were really the one that 1st put hip hop on in NC. Tory and Wink when they were on WKNC from midnight to 3am, we'd have the tapes rolling when we went to bed, wake up to flip that shit, and wait with baited breath til we got home from school the next day and could finally listen to was we'd recorded. This was starting in like the EARLY 80's... maybe '81 to '85.

Nabbs, Montique, Smokehouse and my main man Keith Ellis were also spreading the music early on.

Speaking of Old Farm, don't forget Cool Jazz-ski and the Flamingo Kid (shout out to Schoolly Jay). Then, there was Antonio making those mixtapes back in the day. Of course, MC Frosty and her brother (I forgot his name) representing River Forest.

I remember going to DJ Nabs parties over on Obie Drive back in 1986/87 at Boobie's house. It's been 20 years, Breeze. Can you believe that?

house parties in old farm, emory woods, erwin woods, obie dr, the old school NCCU blockparties, nabbs rockin at great hall...good ole dayz mang.

>Speaking of Old Farm, don't forget Cool Jazz-ski and the
>Flamingo Kid (shout out to Schoolly Jay). Then, there was
>Antonio making those mixtapes back in the day. Of course, MC
>Frosty and her brother (I forgot his name) representing River
>Forest.
>
>I remember going to DJ Nabs parties over on Obie Drive back in
>1986/87 at Boobie's house. It's been 20 years, Breeze. Can you
>believe that?


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.....in one of my crates full of cassettes, he was nice with it too, use to throw a few local kats in the mix along with national underground records.

only links to out of print tracks and albums of course. People need to know.

1996 comp. album with NC rappers. If anyone has it can they pm me or post the link to let everyone hear I would love to hear it thanks.

I'll check it over the weekend

that was real good and I haven't heard it in forever

Lets start putting links to classic out of print albums people never heard (which includes me :)).

I know I got a few other locals some probably from SC as well as NC too.

Remember "Touch Y'all" featuring Sadat X. which might have been produced by Mark The Spark, anyway he had few 12inch singles but never got a chance to release an album.

I read a blog of his a while back which said he's still rapping and plan on releasing that unreleased gem & of course new stuff as well.

Summa these names I haven't heard in YEARS...y'all takin me back to high school...

Love it... Too bad it doesn't get played on the radio! :)


Gangstalicious

Rhymes too vicious

Eat emcees all day, mmm, delicious

(c)Gangstalicious (Mos Def), The Boondocks

Whatever happened to that cat....he rhymed on Sankofa's "Invisible Man".....

just ripped that track to ribbons....

But they're in Los Angeles now, and I don't know if they were ever trying to make it as a hip hop group in NC. There's some good stuff on their newest album.

all of these are the clean version from the promo single. I thought I had "Touch Y'all" somewhere but can't find it...

"Amazin"
http://www.zshare.net/audio/4623425c00361a

"Amazin'" (3 boyz from newark remix) <----different lyrics
http://www.zshare.net/audio/4623539bf4a4fc/

"Amazin'" (3 boyz from newark ka-ka lak mix)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/462349687b73f9/

Dope! Also I'm still waiting on that Mark Sparks album :)

Shelly B: http://www.myspace.com/shellyb1

K-Hill: http://www.myspace.com/khillmusic

Kaze: http://www.myspace.com/kaze1

J.Bully: http://www.myspace.com/bullycity

Kooley High: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=98334600

Rapsody (lady of the group): http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=38582526

M1 Platoon: http://www.myspace.com/m1platoon

Supastition: http://www.myspace.com/supastition

Johnny Madwreck: http://www.myspace.com/madwreck

The Others: http://www.myspace.com/theothers

Jozeemo: http://www.myspace.com/jozeemo

D.R. (from The Others group: http://www.myspace.com/themightyd

E. Jones: http://www.myspace.com/edotjones

Ski Beats: http://www.myspace.com/skibeatzmusic

DJ Forge: http://www.myspace.com/djforge

Jah Freedom: http://www.myspace.com/jahfree

Endless Mic: http://www.myspace.com/endlessmic1

Small World: http://www.myspace.com/smallworldpremiere

Tyler Hipnosis: http://www.myspace.com/tylerhipnosis

Legacy: www.myspace.com/ihatelegacy

Median: http://www.myspace.com/mediansrelief

Edgar allan floe: http://www.myspace.com/eafloe

Sean Boog: http://www.myspace.com/seanboogoftheawayteam

Chaundon: http://www.myspace.com/chaundon

Nicolay: http://www.myspace.com/nicolay

cesar comanche: http://www.myspace.com/cesarcomanche

LB: http://www.myspace.com/littlebrother

9th: http://www.myspace.com/9thwondermusic

Diablo Archer: http://www.myspace.com/diabloarcher

K-Slack: http://www.myspace.com/kslackontheboards

J. Gunn: http://www.myspace.com/jgunnmusic

Killa K: http://www.myspace.com/killakfromthethyrday

O.N.E. Jones: http://www.myspace.com/wolfpackdrummerboy

P.A.N.A.M.A. G.A.T.: http://www.myspace.com/panamagat

Jamie Cooley: http://www.myspace.com/jacooley

Mic El: http://www.myspace.com/mic_el

Splash G: www.myspace.com/splash

Jim Crow Jackson: www.myspace.com/jimcrowjackson

Presidents: http://myspace.com/presidents919

Dezo Dinero: http://myspace.com/dezodinero

Lowkey: http://myspace.com/lowkey919

Kal Royale: http://myspace.com/kalroyale

Dirty 5 thirty: http://www.myspace.com/dirty5thirty

Brown Company: http://www.myspace.com/browncompany

Omniscence: http://www.myspace.com/omniscence

THE BIZZIE BOYZ: http://www.myspace.com/thebizzieboyz

The Away Team: http://www.myspace.com/theawayteamhoj

Brother Reade: http://www.myspace.com/brotherreade

the apple juice kid: http://www.myspace.com/theapplejuicekid

Celinski The Mayor: http://www.myspace.com/celinskithemayor

Mr. Rozzi: http://www.myspace.com/mrrozzi

MH REEF: http://www.myspace.com/reefrhymes

Yaggfu FRONT: http://www.myspace.com/yaggfu

Joe Scudda: http://www.myspace.com/joescudda

Mic Savvy & Merlin: http://www.myspace.com/smsavvymerlin

TightMan: http://www.myspace.com/tightmanmusic

Khrysis: http://www.myspace.com/khrysisbeats

I'm really feeling Apple Juice Kid.

http://www.myspace.com/zackperfect

I'm finally getting my act together and figured this was an appropriate thread to look for some feedback. The myspace is still a work in progress, but any thoughts would be appreciated.

Sorry but I wasn't feeling it.

KOUNTRY WITH A K

CHECK OUT THE LUPE FIASCO VS A TRIBE CALLED QUEST MIXTAPE HERE:

http://www.clmnews.com/Entertainment_Sub_Pages/Music/Mix_Tapes/Lupe_Fiasco/FIASCOGATE.html

ALSO CHECK OUT THE JAY-Z AMERICAN GANGSTER MIXTAPE:
http://www.clmnews.com/Entertainment_Sub_Pages/Music/Mix_Tapes/An_American_Gangster_The_Mixtape_Re-Loaded.html

Why would you think that?

Next thing you know there's gonna be hip-hop in the midwest

Next thing you know there's gonna be hip-hop in the midwest

Sorry.

Trolls aside anyone else have any links to classic out print NC albums?

Im a huge fan of alot of these guys. Glad to see somebody else up on em.

Can't let this die yet.

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"Being the bigger man is overrated." -- Huey (The Boondocks)