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79509, Dungeon Family - Even In Darkness (The Album)
Posted by atruhead, Sun Nov-11-01 06:52 PM
crooked booty is a great opener, cee-lo brings pure soul at the start of this song

most of the production is great, being that its a whole family effort obviously every mans verse isnt going to be as good as some of the others

theres a lot of singing, but thats to be expected

they continue on their journey to enlighten us and make us party.

this album is all that goodie mob's "world party" should have been

white gutz featuring bubba sparxx sounds a bit too much like reflection eternals too late for my tastes but I like the song.

okay whatever the name of track # 10 is, its an all singing record, im listening to it as I type this, cee-lo brings us to church at the end of it.

at the time this album gets a 4.0/5.0 from me, this rating is subject to possibly go up, not down.



79510, ^
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79511, this drops tomorrow?
Posted by Abbstrack, Mon Nov-12-01 12:37 PM
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79512, the 20th from what i heard
Posted by atruhead, Mon Nov-12-01 03:22 PM
but i dont buy cds anymore except a short list of a few (the roots, com, black star, sv, ras kass or something rare)
79513, me neither, but Kast isnt on that list?
Posted by Abbstrack, Tue Nov-13-01 08:28 AM

79514, theyre eating well enough nm
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79515, BOUGHT
Posted by urbgriot, Mon Nov-12-01 12:51 PM

79516, RE: Dungeon Family - Even In Darkness (The Album)
Posted by The_Soul_Controller, Mon Nov-12-01 01:07 PM
where did u hear this ?
79517, 4 letters- MIRC
Posted by atruhead, Mon Nov-12-01 03:19 PM
(thanks gloworm)

shit is beyond the truth
79518, RE: 4 letters- MIRC
Posted by The_Soul_Controller, Tue Nov-13-01 07:58 AM
sniff sniff, i need some1 to hook me up on this, but i know ill buy it when it drops so maybe its good to get the cd and listen to it fresh.

when does it drop ???

1
79519, RE: 4 letters- MIRC
Posted by lagism, Tue Nov-13-01 03:36 PM
it drops nov 20

peace.lagism.OUT

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79520, woah !
Posted by The_Soul_Controller, Tue Nov-13-01 03:44 PM
so DF and Ghostface both come out the same day ? good lord, my christmas will be coming early this year !
79521, DF=Stankonia II
Posted by guest, Tue Nov-13-01 08:57 PM
DF is nice, but there are about three songs from the Stankonia sessions based upon the sound.

Rollin and Excalibur are my favorite.

Rollin has a Dj Screw type sound "Are You Rollin?"


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79522, RE: DF=Stankonia II
Posted by The_Soul_Controller, Wed Nov-14-01 01:19 AM

would u say its better than Stankonia ?
79523, Not better
Posted by urbgriot, Wed Nov-14-01 06:04 AM
But different.. a little less experimental and little harder edged and more soulful...
79524, RE: Not better
Posted by The_Soul_Controller, Wed Nov-14-01 06:31 AM
i cant wait, i cant friggin wait !
i hope Cee-Lo comes correct again ! hes in my top 5 mc's at the moment, hesdope as hell !

1

79525, no way is it better than stankonia
Posted by atruhead, Wed Nov-14-01 09:43 AM
but it stands out amongst dungeon family releases. besides im only really a fan of cee lo, dre3000 and big boi, all of whome held it down on this lp
79526, Dope a HEL
Posted by urbgriot, Wed Nov-14-01 06:04 AM
Heard it yesterday.....
and
WOW..
79527, 2 Compare
Posted by guest, Wed Nov-14-01 11:23 AM
U whould have 2 compare this more so with the World Party.

There are obvious Stankonia tracks on the album, but it does not compare to Stankonia. 2 diffrent albums with 2 diffrent agendas.

I disagree with having Bubba Sparks on the album. From all the shit Dungeon Family talk, I thought they were Pro Black.

You gotta pay the bills, I guess.

The new OUtkast track "whole World" is mad sick with off key singing ala Macy Gray and Bilal backed by waltz music.


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79528, WTF?
Posted by DumbNice, Wed Nov-14-01 11:45 AM
Can't they be pro black w/o being anti-white? Bubba Sparks is a true southern mc and deserves to be on the album.

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79529, WHOA!!!!!!!
Posted by Vivrant, Wed Nov-14-01 03:56 PM
pay the bills? im gonna pretent youre not trying to say bubba is a selling point on an album with outkast on it.

shit, im gonna pretend too.

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79530, RE: WHOA!!!!!!!
Posted by guest, Sat Nov-17-01 08:48 AM
yes, thet is what I said. Tons of people don't have a clue who DF is. Bubba soldifies DF's white fan base. It is that simple. Good marketing for the commidification of culture.

co-opted rap music

besides as big as the Dungeon Family, somebody else

could have rapped, like a female.

let me be up front

I dis-like white rappers
not becasue they are white, but they way they go about the commidification of my culture worries me

More power 2 him, cause we taking they bitches.


Once rap music is co-opted by whites, maybe black "musicians" will seek to re-invent music once again. Rap aint gone last 4-ever.

Rock, Jazz, Blues, everything else, now Rap.




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79531, BAH!
Posted by Dove, Sun Nov-18-01 09:42 PM
Bubba just dropped - he had no fans until 2 months ago. You honestly think DF just scooped him 2 months ago? This cat's been doin his thing in GA for a minute now. Like Vivrant said, being pro-black doesn't mean anti-anything - and Bubba might be an okay cat for all we know.
Dove
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You should never ever doubt what nobody is sure about ~ Willy Wonka
79532, eeeegggghhhh
Posted by fatlip, Mon Nov-19-01 06:16 AM
outkast solidifies their white fanbase. try again.


79533, you are ridiculous
Posted by johnny_domino, Mon Nov-19-01 02:31 PM

>I dis-like white rappers
>not becasue they are white, but
>they way they go about
>the commidification of my culture
>worries me
>
>More power 2 him, cause we
>taking they bitches.

yeah, bubba is a trojan horse, sent by the white power conspiracy to take rap music away from you. In reality, he's david duke's nephew. Do you get angry at the beatnuts in the same way? or big pun? Congrats on taking their bitches too, that's a very enlightened and empowering step. See, you actually could've made an argument about the way eminem, for example, is marketed, as commidifying hip hop culture, mainstreaming and co-opting it. But I don't think anyone is gonna say "ooh, Bubba Sparxx is on the Dungeon Family album, he's white too, just like me, now I guess I'll buy it."

Nasty like the freaky deaky at your local sleazy speakeasy - MF Doom
79534, actually
Posted by Dove, Mon Nov-19-01 02:33 PM
and unfortunately
there are some people who do think this way.

>>But I don't think anyone is gonna say "ooh, Bubba Sparxx is on the Dungeon Family album, he's white too, just like me, now I guess I'll buy it."


79535, RE: actually
Posted by johnny_domino, Mon Nov-19-01 02:51 PM
yeah, I dunno, I guess I'm just so far away from buying an album for just one song, let alone one person on a song that you've never even heard before, it seems so wrong.

Nasty like the freaky deaky at your local sleazy speakeasy - MF Doom
79536, You stink, brush your ass.
Posted by guest, Mon Nov-19-01 06:26 PM
so what
that is my opinion and I am sticking to it
it is like buying chet baker instead of MIles Davis
like buying elvis instead of Chuck Berry
I do not like most white rappers
The only white rappers I like are MC Search and the Beastie Boys.


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79537, But you are wrong
Posted by HardRom, Mon Nov-19-01 06:38 PM
About Bubba paying the bills for the DF. I think that OutKast is doing the bill payin' just fine. Bubba has one album that debuted pretty high with over 100 000 sold first week. Not bad, but on the other had, OutKast have 4 platinum plus albums, with Stankonia selling over 500 000 first week and certified 4X platinum. OutKast have more fans (Black and White) than Bubba. So he is on the album because he is a friend of the Dungeon, nothing more.
79538, so you won't buy DF?
Posted by Dove, Tue Nov-20-01 01:50 AM

79539, RE: WHOA!!!!!!!
Posted by guest, Mon Nov-26-01 06:54 PM
>yes, thet is what I said.
> Tons of people
>don't have a clue who
>DF is. Bubba soldifies
>DF's white fan base.
>It is that simple.
>Good marketing for the commidification
>of culture.
>
>co-opted rap music
>
>besides as big as the Dungeon
>Family, somebody else
>
>could have rapped, like a female.
>
>
>let me be up front
>
>I dis-like white rappers
>not becasue they are white, but
>they way they go about
>the commidification of my culture
>worries me
>
>More power 2 him, cause we
>taking they bitches.
>
>
>Once rap music is co-opted by
>whites, maybe black "musicians" will
>seek to re-invent music once
>again. Rap aint gone
>last 4-ever.
>
>Rock, Jazz, Blues, everything else, now
>Rap.

Things only change when you are willing to let them. Relations between races have never been as good as they are now but I am aware that they are still nowhere close to perfect. Rock, jazz and blues were created at a time when KKK members marched the streets of washington D.C., before the civil rights movement started. Rap music is a true post civil rights movement art form that might have been created by one race, but it has impacted many different races. To say the DF is not pro black because they rapped with a white boy is absurd. It is people with your beliefs, in my opinion, that are responsible for delaying a positive change in our culture. Is a perfect world one where nobody steals from eachother or one where nobody needs to steal from eachother? White people don't want to take hiphop music from anyone. In the fifties, they didn't want to take rock either, but they did want to take the money. Whites saw that this new music was taking over and they got a bunch of white singers to remake popular rock songs in order to make money off of it. When I see the C.W.A. (CRACKERS With Authority) Do a remake of Fuck the Police and call it "thank you officer", Ill see a problem. Until then, All I see is a world moving forward and you left behind.


"How ignorance is in the breath as innocence" - Ceelo

If America is majority white, then the prisons another country like James Baldwin" - Kweli

"Try not to say shoot around my daughter, she already know the blast"
-Common
79540, naive
Posted by Dove, Mon Nov-26-01 10:27 PM
>>>White people don't want to take hiphop music from anyone. In the fifties, they didn't want to take rock either, but they did want to take the money. Whites saw that this new music was taking over and they got a bunch of white singers to remake popular rock songs in order to make money off of it.


this is just naive - although I know you don't mean anything bad by saying it.

White cats blatantly stole culture and styles to latch on to the music the kids were really digging, signed Black artists to contracts to make money off them and then didn't pay them properly - if at all. Black artists ended up with nothing in the end of the game while the white boys got all the glory.

Oh wait... we were talking about the fifties right?
79541, RE: naive
Posted by guest, Wed Nov-28-01 08:22 PM
Hold up, I think I mistated what I was trying to say with that one. I know that white people stole music and culture from blacks with virtually every music form such as rock, blues, and jazz. That is a fact and I would be naive if I disagreed. But what I meant was that they would have (and did) done the same with any music regardless of what genre it was. This culture theft was not an isolated incident. But it was more to capitalize off of the success than to join in the appreciation. If whites truly had respect for what was being created, they would have respected the people who were doing it. I am saying that after the cultural revolution of the 60's and the civil rights movement, I see that respect versus simply the goal of capitalizing off of music. In the fifties, kids who listened to Elvis or whatever other popular white rock musicians were around could still be a very racist and ignorant person and still fit in to mainstream america. Find me a KKK member who listens to hip-hop, but hates blacks, and listens only to em, and bubba sparxx, AND fits into mainstream america. Dude doesn't exist because mainstream doesnt want him to. And despite all of negative aspects of our society, and believe me there are many, I see this as a positive change. And that was all I was trying to get at. I don't see the point of feeling disapointed because a rap group raps with a white guy. The basic point of why racism is so stupid is something that we are now teaching our kids by the time they are in first grade. We are all different, and thats ok. Despite the fact that what has resulted from hundreds of years of discrimination and oppression towards African Americans is still very evident in todays society, I think that many problems would be resolved if everybody just realized that point. No sep. 11, NO holocaust, no slavery.
It is a fact that things need to change everywhere in the world if we dont want to blow ourselves out of the universe in the next 1000 years. But nothing is going to get solved if people still place emphasis on race. Im white, so what? I am completely aware of what people who share my same skin pigment are responsible for. And in all sincere honesty, if there was anything that I could do to change what has happened in the past that my people have done, I would do it. But the fact remains, you cannot change history. You cannot go back, thats sort of our fatal error. We are all going to make mistakes sometime in life and theres not shit we can do to change that. Some mistakes only lead to bigger mistakes and that what happens. Its not an excuse but it is what happens. Hate happens for a variety of reasons. Ignorance, anger, lust, envy, etc... but what happens as a result is much more severe than what causes it. We cannot change history but we can learn from it. And I think that the most valuable lesson it can teach us is that if we dont accept eachother, none of this bullshit will end, it will just come around in a different way.

Now that I have said way more than I planned on... Im out.

Peace.


"How ignorance is in the breath as innocence" - Ceelo

If America is majority white, then the prisons another country like James Baldwin" - Kweli

"Try not to say shoot around my daughter, she already know the blast"
-Common
79542, okay then
Posted by Dove, Thu Nov-29-01 12:31 AM
I understand where you're coming from - however

>Find me a KKK member who listens to hip-hop, but hates blacks, and listens only to em, and bubba sparxx, AND fits into mainstream america. Dude doesn't exist because mainstream doesnt want him to.

They don't have to be a card-holding member of the KKK to be this type of person. There are cats out here who are racist as shit but who get a hard on every time they pop in a Hip Hop cd.

I guess you have to see it to believe it, and I've seen it.
Thanks for telling me more of your thoughts tho - your approach to the conversation is appreciated. :-)

Dove
~Sheepish Lordess of Chaos~

You should never ever doubt what nobody is sure about ~ Willy Wonka
79543, wow
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79544, JUST got it!
Posted by Dove, Fri Nov-16-01 04:26 PM
will be back l8r with thoughts
79545, Someone give a song-by-song breakdown?
Posted by el_rey, Mon Nov-19-01 05:25 AM
thank yuh.

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79546, co-sign
Posted by L_O_Quent, Mon Nov-19-01 09:43 AM
that's what I was looking for.

I feel the single.
79547, my review
Posted by Dove, Mon Nov-19-01 11:09 AM
it's not song by song but i think u can get the idea
this will be up at rapsheet.com

Dungeon Family
Even In Darkness (Arista)

Just when I gave up on finding an album that could make my spine tingle the way Stankonia can, the Dungeon Family brings another volume of unprecedented innovation to the table. I forgot just how much I missed Goodie Mob. I forgot how seductive Witchdoctor's vocals were. I forgot how funky the Dungeon Family as a collective could be. Perhaps the piles of cellophane crap littering the new music racks at stores have convoluted my memory - or perhaps it's just been a year too long to get that vibe that Stankonia delivered. Like slow cooked gumbo on a cold day, Even In Darkness feeds your brain cells and fulfills your quest for all things crunk - all you can do is sit back and enjoy the feeling. Rico Wade heads the feisty clan of soulful emcees: Cee-Lo, Sleepy Brown, Big Rube, Mr. DJ, Bigg Gipp, Khujo, Backbone, Andre 3000, Big Boi, T-Mo, Witchdoctor, Ray, and Freddie Calhoun - with each lyricist bringing his own flare to the montage of musical mastery that Even In Darkness serves.
After listening to the album for three days straight, I am still hard pressed to find a favorite track. The first single from the album "Trans DF Express" playfully bounces back and forth as Andre 3000 drops yet another classic verse. "On & On & On" pushes relentlessly with a coiling Arabian lick as Bigg Gipp, Big Boi, T-Mo, Witchdoctor and Khujo do lyrical back flips over the beat and R&B crooner Nivea adds a dainty touch to the track. "Follow The Light" provides a hopeful view of success with a contagious hook, while "Crooked Booty" playfully reminds us that being broke isn't the worst thing that could happen. "Crooked Booty" is also the song most likely to spark a dance craze. "Excalibur" pounds with anthematic authenticity, fueled by 'Cee-Lo Sinatra and the DF Corral' on the chorus. "What Is Rap" gives Witchdoctor and Big Rube the podium to question what Hip Hop is really all about. Cee-Lo's high-pitched vocals spearhead the consistency of the project, and his intellectual singsong is more soothing than a deep muscle massage.
Overall the album is a continual highlight of creative integrity, and the only setback is that fourteen tracks just don't seem to be enough. I'm just being selfish because, like the old saying goes, quality counts more than quantity. Perhaps some of these other emcees cramming fifteen tracks of pure bullshit alongside five decent songs should take some notes. An hour of solid performance is more satisfying than a double dose of four-minute let downs, and it's not hard to press rewind when it's an enjoyable experience. Dungeon Family has produced a modern-day funkateer club - Hip Hop mixed with blues mixed with soul mixed with humor mixed with metaphoric genius. Even In Darkness is a truly satisfying slice of southern style.

Dove
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79548, that was beautiful
Posted by el_rey, Mon Nov-19-01 12:21 PM
as always Dove! ;-)

My question? Are there any questionable (aka: Mamcita-eque?) tracks that should be ... avoided?

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79549, honestly no
Posted by Dove, Mon Nov-19-01 01:49 PM
beginning to end it's just tight - lots of different emotions in the music...
79550, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Posted by el_rey, Tue Nov-20-01 05:38 AM
Just (finally -- I've had it for a few days now) hear it last night -- like 4 times in a row!

This album is the shit! The funk is alive and well with the DF, y'all. I generally like the first half of the album better than the second, but overall this is an amazing album. The first two joints (after the intro) are off the meter.

WOW. I can't wait to get back home to bump that ish again. Hip-hop's not dead y'all.

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79551, we tried to tell ya!
Posted by Dove, Tue Nov-20-01 09:50 AM
:-)
79552, yo se ...
Posted by el_rey, Tue Nov-20-01 09:58 AM
I need to get my ears cleaned anyway ... :*

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he'd be incarcerated
with the rest of the brothers
while uh
the devil would have a great
apartment
on the upper east side
be a guest v.j.
on total request live" - Me'Shell
(god.fear.money)
79553, *handing u a q-tip*
Posted by Dove, Wed Nov-21-01 09:24 AM

79554, You make me want Cee-Lo
Posted by PlucK, Sun Dec-02-01 08:58 PM
With his "short-stoppin" arse. When's his comin out. Or did I miss it. My empty pockets have forced me to sleep on alot of joints I want. Cee-lo's one.

Have ya heard any reviews of it, singles.

'preciate it.

PlucK.

79555, RE: Dungeon Family - Even In Darkness (The Album)
Posted by Don_Jawnson, Mon Nov-19-01 02:47 PM
forver pimping is my shit. who woulda fucking thought, that an album with cee lo, dre and big boi on it, that the best joint would come from cool breeze? FP is a minute and half of.....fuck, it makes me want to go out and buy a caddy, and drive it thru atlanta with the music loud as fuck, til someone jacks me and i have to fondle the nuts of truck drivers to get back home.....yeah...FP is the shit.

the beat for that track is insane too.


jawn f kennedy


79556, call him mr. bitch
Posted by squeeg, Wed Nov-21-01 12:31 PM
Mister, BITCH.

________________________________________
Now Playing: Ghostface Killah - 'Bulletproof Wallets...Director's Cut'

01. Intro
02. The Sun (featuring Raekwon, Slick Rick & The RZA)
03. Maxine
04. The Watch
05. Flowers {original} (featuring Raekwon, Method Man & Superb)
06. Never Be The Same Again. (featuring Carl Thomas & Raekwon)
07. Teddy Skit
08. Theodore (featuring Trife & Twiz)
09. Ghost Showers
10. Strawberry (featuring Killah Sin)
11. Figure 8 Skit
12. The Forest {with bridge}
13. The Juks (featuring Trife & Superb)
14. Walking Through The Darkness (featuring Tekitha)
15. Jealousy
16. Good Times {clean} (featuring Raekwon & Superb)
17. The Hilton (featuring Raekwon)
18. Interlude
19. Love Session (featuring Ruff Endz)
20. Street Chemistry

Total Running Time - 57:50


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79557, YES!!!!!
Posted by orchid, Thu Nov-29-01 07:11 AM
That is my favorite part of the ENTIRE album!
79558, RE: Rob-O says...
Posted by jigga, Wed Nov-21-01 03:48 PM
...like Whoa

it makes
>me want to go out
>and buy a caddy, and
>drive it thru atlanta with
>the music loud as fuck,
>til someone jacks me and
>i have to fondle the
>nuts of truck drivers to
>get back home.....yeah...FP is the shit.

DAMN!!! Is it really that good? I bought it yesterday but still aint listened 2 it yet cuz Ive been peepin Ghostface the whole time but thats certainly gonna be one of the 1st tracks I skip 2.

>the beat for that track is
>insane too.

Always good 2 hear. Cool Breeze is always nice over sick beats

Screw you guys...I'm goin home -Cartman

The mother of civilization, wants 2 know my occupation, home location and means of transportation. The correct combination unlocks her placenta. Ive got a cellular phone w/ a rubba antenna, own a 3 story house, drive a 4 door Ac, favorite song of all time, Mobb Deeps hit it from the back...then jet. -Ras Kass

...she said, "Do you have a car? Is your shit up 2 par?" Damn! a nigga need a resume just sittin at tha bar! -Ras Kass

Cuz bitches are like flies(why)they attract 2 the best shit. -Ras Kass

Cowards make a little cheese, then enlarge artificially, like Pamela Anderson Lee's double D's, please! I'm bangin from Belize 2 Tel Aviv in tha Red Sea racin Saddam Hussien on Kawasaki jet skies. -Ras Kass

18 willin rednecks, sendin me death threats, cuz their niece fantasize about wet sex, when I'm in her headsets. -Opio from Souls of Mischief

Tryin 2 do all I can do in this car...her mom's Jaguar -A-plus from Souls of Mischief

You think you're able 2 label the Hiero sound? You still havent found a comparable variable -Del

You live on the edge? I live on the San Andreas. -Evidence

I AINT GOT TIME 4 NO JIBBA JABBA!!!-Mr.T





79559, Very Solid
Posted by HardRom, Sun Nov-25-01 08:29 PM
Seriously, this is the best hip hop album this year. The songs are so diverse, the production is excellent, and the MC's just rip it. Follow the Light, On&On&On, 6 Minutes are all hot. And Rollin' and especially Excalibur are truly on some next level. I just can't get over Excalibur! One setback is that Andre is on only 3 songs, but it really doesn't hurt the album. This is because Cee-Lo and Big Boi kill it. Also, Big Rube and even Big Gipp come real strong.
This album is just all around Goodness.
79560, Follow The Light
Posted by spirit, Mon Nov-26-01 02:10 AM
"Follow The Light" is my jawn for now. Cee-Lo murders his verse and he KNOWS it cuz he starts laughing at the end like "I done ripped that shit!".

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

“Freestyle” is coming to Washington DC!! OKP Majrleaguer and myself have collaborated to bring this critically acclaimed film to the DC hip-hop massive.

“Freestyle” is a documentary on the art of freestyling, featuring performances from Mos Def, Pharoah Monche, Planet Asia, Freestyle Fellowship, Supernatural, JUICE, and many others (including footage of the now legendary Supernatural/Craig G battle). The film also features a rarely seen freestyle session between Tupac and Biggie shortly before the two men’s rivalry and subsequent murders (and they are so joyous as they rhyme, it is hard to imagine they would become bitter enemies later in their lives). The film also features commentary from Talib Kweli, The Last Poets, Toni Blackmon (of Freestyle Union) and many more.

What: “Freestyle” documentary
When: Tuesday, November 27th 9:15pm (with encore dates from December 3rd-6th, 9:30pm every night)
Where: Visions Theater (1927 Florida Avenue NW, off of Florida and Connecticut)
How Much: $6
For More Info: http://www.visionsdc.com

On the 27th, there will be an introduction by the director Kevin Fitzgerald and Q&A afterward

PLEASE SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!

(and show up EARLY, the place only has 200 seats)

Also, be on the lookout for the after-event NOVEMBER 27th (ignore the other date I put up earlier), featuring performances by former Rawkus Recordings artist Shabaam Sadeeq and other local underground luminaries (sponsored by Raptivism, with other sponsors to be announced). It goes down at the Kaffa House (1212 U St NW), 10pm-2am.

Send questions to alancpage@aol.com

79561, I love that part too
Posted by Dove, Mon Nov-26-01 03:02 PM
his voice is so slurred but I just dig it! lol
79562, cee-lo: the savior
Posted by HotSpittable, Sat Dec-01-01 09:46 PM
ahhh shit man. cee-lo sounds like he's trying to steal everyone's show and all their future shows with this one. on every song he's on he outshines everyone else. damn he's good. really, really effin' good.

fave tracks so far are: roughly all of 'em