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76229, RE: Okay.
Posted by lonesome_d, Thu Mar-08-07 11:15 PM

>I didn't say I'm better versed... I never said that... what I
>said was to be clear... is that my insight counts...
>and if your talking about driving a bus...
>who do you speak to... a cab driver or a bus driver?
>it's pretty simple homie.

Yes, but you don't have to be a race car driver to enjoy a NASCAR race.

Your analogy would at least make sense if you only brought up the fact that you play (again, without providing any evidence of this) when discussing technique, ability, performance, etc. But you frequently use it to justify your own opinions on music appreciation, which is a different beast altogether, and as proof of the extent of your knowledge, which it has squat to do with.

>(But I can't work with you feeling as though you're entitled
>to comment on music you have never listened to.)
>
>Huge ASSumption don't you think?

#61: me: "Jim Booker, fiddler for Taylor's Kentucky Boys"

#63, you: "Jim Booke's version of People Get Ready isn't conscious music?"

You didn't even get the right era, let alone the right guy.

>Actually that's not what I said... I listed various forms of
>black music... from jazz to blues...

#39: "Keep in mind... blues was the only voice we had at the time..."

When I mentioned other genres besides the obligatory jazz and gospel, you replied in #53: "You must be kidding."

>you harped on one sentence cause that's all you had.

As I said earlier, the concept of that one sentence was what caught my eye, and the only thing I found partiuclarly interesting in the initial post. If you didn't want to discuss that part of your thesis, you should have said so. Or not replied to me at all.

>And then
>you brought up Jug music... which depending on how you
>classify it...

Jug bands belnded all kinds of styles together. Sometimes they're classified as blues, sometimes as jazz, sometimes they played country.

>haha... either way... My statement still stands.
>Cause again, whether jug music or jazz... it was a reflection
>of the people who made it was it not? Are you telling me
>there was no racism or poverty in the south?

Why would I tell you that?

Of course it was a reflection of the people who made it... who frequently, like any other Americans at any time, ESPECIALLY poor ones, indulged in violence, drug and alcohol abuse, and infidelity, and this showed up in SOME OF the music. To me, those elements are neither "pro-Black" nor "conscious," so I wouldn't consider the songs they appear in to be so either.

>(, and that you don't feel that you need to be in order to
>voice any opinions on it.)
>
>ASSumptions again?

#349: "I don't have to listen..."