Looks like some of ya'll got your wish...

After more than a decades worth of bangers behind them, the dynamic duo of G.ifted U.nlimited R.hymes U.niversal & the almighty Primo, have called it quits (collectively). No swipe available, I got the word directly from Guru's boy Gusmo (*see Sililoquy Of Chaos*), as he was reaching out to me via AOL-IM in efforts to get me Guru's new solo wax (he's Guru's wax/college radio promo cat now or something).

I initially was clowning, saying he shoulda said something to GURU about his new album cover (w/ the strange shot of Guru holding a sword infront of the green numbers & letters Matrix pattern). He said that decision was all up to Guru, & how he's his own man. Then he dropped 'Gangstarr's broke up' outta nowhere...

After the Ownerz, alotta folks voiced their desire to see this happen, well here it is.

I know I'ma miss em together...

Thoughts...?

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..i could see if BEP broke up, but guru & premier??? ..shit delete what u said and my reply here and shit is all good.

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Zing to you Morpheus looking Guru. ZING!

That is my new favorite phrase.


Speaking of tragedies, I'm gonna miss Gang Starr but it was inevitable since The Ownerz...

me and al_sharp were locked up with his boys this weekend.

u quick as a mutha on that 'good riddance' tip...

(pours out a little while throwing on daily operation)

this is something i haven't wanted to believe for a couple years. i was hoping they'd broken up temporarily like before.

oh well

I need more than I spoke to so and so and he said that... If this is true this would be a tragedy.

nooooooooooooo!

do they file for divorce? stop sleeping together?

they broke tha fugg up, i.e.; are no longer recording material as a group. U dumb as hell huh...?

>they broke tha fugg up, i.e.; are no longer recording
>material as a group. U dumb as hell huh...?

you think that guru and primo have been in the studio 9-5 every day since the late 80s? years passed in between some of their albums. when they record together, they're a group, when they're not recording together they're not a group. i doubt there's a document binding them together as "group". don't even bother responding if you can only grasp the kindergartener-level aspect of what i am saying.

damn...

I'm just using the words that Gusmo, a cat in their circle, used, & you come with this 'did they stop sleeping together' homo bullshit. Get a life homo, cus your e-life is pretty sad...

we can have a group

record contract???

you mean they werent a group before they had a contract?

to acknowledging validity in the term 'group' by defending the fact that they were a group before their contract? You're a circle jerk, for real...

Sp drops dead while jerking off to his copy of "Moment of Truth".

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this cant be true. after the Ownerz, primo said they were in the studio again. i was just thinking that its been a damn long time since he said that. im so sad, this is terrible news. gang starr was "ONE OF THE BEST YET" and i saw them performing not too long ago. saw them about a year ago @ toads place in new haven AND @ bbkings last march. as legit as this post sounds, i aint believn nutn til i see sum newz.

why y'all acting like this is a shocker (or new)?

not to add more tears to your sadness....UTFO broke up too

*shrug*

they put out a good album in 2003

that's more recent than black star, tribe, and the fugees

c'mon man

f'rill

owners was what we call "last gasp"

did anyone REALLY think they'd get another shot?

most aficionados off-the-break should agree that 'the ownerz' was still solid.

granted, it might not be on 'moment of truth' level, but describing it as a dying breath is to be misinformed.


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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

*takes whole bottle of painkillers*

*stabs self repeatedly in the stomach and chest*

*sets apartment ablaze*

*shoots self in head*
















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*dead*

f**kin' blood coming out his head and asks stupid questions like...




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...DETROIT...WHAT...

..woudnt than be somethin

generic primo beats just wouldnt cut it; you'd have to make it special.

We'll probably next see Guru on the Surreal Life.

hilarious.

Ownerz was a good album but a group of their stature would deserve a true "goodbye" album.

this post is filed under PB&J until further evidence is found...

they had a good run, i ain't so mad, as long as premo is still producing for other cats

i love them and they had a long career

even if they aren't going to be making records, it definitely sucks that they won't be touring

.

(in my best Primo scruffy rant voice)

..for real, if its true its sad ..but as long as primo aint hangin it up, the spirit of gang starr lives on

as a crew. Surprised its taken this long for it to get "out there"

guru is CRAZY imo

Even though Primo haz admitted dat they have broken up before (more than once) I doubt dat Guru'z wordz mean much (even though he'z da only one who deservez da right to uze da name GangStarr) since he waz da one cauzin' all da beef between him & Primo.

If I hear it from dem both or even frum Premeir himself den I would accept da newz of dem breakin' up.

But we all know dat dem breakin' up doezn't mean dat they will never do muzik together again.

i hope this isn't true. guru is just alright when he ventures off and does his solo shit. he needs dj premier. facts are facts. i know they were unhappy with virgin, so i hope this is just a move to get out of that situation. i hate these fuckin' record labels. i believe jive is the biggest reason that a tribe called quest broke up back in '98.

I mean... DAMN...

*waits for Premo and Rakim to form a group*

okay - so yeah its moments like these when having a log-in named after a group/artist is really dumb, but ive been here too long to change.

plus i had 'greeneyedbandit' a looooooong ass time ago, but i forgot the password before i changed it. (in addition to being original, im also a genius).

ANYWAY AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL GROUP - Well, they already put in a lot of work. Time off/retirement isn't a bad thing. If you are still waiting for GangStarr to change the game, you apparently have missed one of the greatest groups in hip-hop's influence on their art.

As long as I'm still allowed to keep the albums I have - I'm not sweating it.

that last album proved that it was time to call it quits...at least I got 10 bucks for it at the cd exchange...

they had a great run, but it was time

>GURU about his new album cover (w/ the strange shot of Guru
>holding a sword infront of the green numbers & letters Matrix
>pattern).

that shit is ridiculous.

And now for a moment of PIFF:

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Big wheels BIG grill, wrist chill BIG deal!
I BIG deal... fifth steel givin 'em 8
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peace,
-ram

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im pretty sure they still have a couble albums left in their contract.

yall frontin.
i wont believe this, till i see it for myself.

fuck yall, im abotu to make tonight a gangstarr night.
talkin about gangstarr aint hittin...

yall lame asses.

peace,
-ram

This is GANGSTARR we talkin' bout folks. Don't let The Ownerz get you twisted. They were PIFFIN' before PIFFIN' was PIFFIN'...

we all love GS but guru is on some other isht these days

...a cats personal issues shouldn't bother u so much, whats guru ur roommate?? does he leave the toilet seat up?? ..pipe down and enjoy the music ..owners was a VERY SOLID ALBUM ..one of the best that dropped in 03 ..alot of u would prefer the tinkerbell© shit anyway, lol

>guru ur roommate?? does he leave the toilet seat up??

this chick is on some straight entertainment tonight shit.

like we dont care how well you know "celebs"

peace,
-ram

doesn't give fuck what you think

let me guess, you don't think i have allllllll their albums ?

wrong!

keep it moving....

i have met guru and dude was on some other isht (malik b type isht)

oh yeah, eat a dick

bitch!

>i have met guru and dude was on some other isht (malik b type
>isht)

ur a real silly one... some of the greatest artists of all time were on some next shit.. lol@malik b shit.. get off his balls already.. like u perfect and shit..

>oh yeah, eat a dick
>bitch!

chicks with dix huh.. nasty yo

it's okay
take your meds and you'll be aight

poor guy...

Nowhere in this post did I say that this shouldn't happen. While cats in this post (& on this site on the regular) refer to 'Ownerz' primarily, they discount the trailblazing this duo did throughout the 90's. I just hate seeing those facts ignored...

you know i have love for GS but this is old news

need a tissue ?

But that last album was pretty weak, and I don't think they could do much but tarnish the legacy at this point.

>But that last album was pretty weak, and I don't think they
>could do much but tarnish the legacy at this point.

how can u say u love gang starr and say these songs are weak:

Skillz
Werdz From The Ghetto Child
Rite Where U Stand
Zonin'
Same Team, No Games
Deadly Habitz
PLAYTAWIN
Riot Akt
The Ownerz

shit.. u wernt feelin these???

I liked some of the songs (Skillz, Rite Where U Stand, Deadly Habitz was allright), but by and large it just didn't have many standout tracks, in fact, aside from Skillz, the best of it would have been just album tracks on their other albums, not standouts. It's been awhile since I listened, so maybe I'm neglecting a good song or two, but I would rate their albums that I own

5 stars- Step in the Arena
5 stars- Moment of Truth (maybe 4 3/4, or 4 1/2, on further reflection)
5 stars- Hard To Earn
4 1/2 stars- Daily Operation
3 stars- The Ownerz

So yeah, it's well below the standard of their previous work, and it ranks as one of the biggest disappointments (in terms of how much I anticipated it, vs. how much I actually enjoyed it and felt compelled to listen to it) of recent years.

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Man wtf is wrong with the Ownerz? i thought it was on point on both sides. Imma be mad if this is true, there's too few cold cats left in this game and i dont need to lose them too. yeah and Guru def needs Premo, its just aint the same over other cats beats even if they big name producers...its just aint premo

>Man wtf is wrong with the Ownerz? i thought it was on point
>on both sides.

peace,
-ram

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the beats were not great, but not bad either, but Guru was just not up to par on that album. He sounded lazy, old, and mad.

...but Guru had that "trifecta" on that Bald Head Slick and the Click album, not the Ownerz...Premier doesn't let him spit BS on his tracks.

Ownerz will go down in Gang Starr lore as the "angry" album. Guru was P.O.ed, so was Premier, and it shows in the tracks...there's definitely an air of tension on the track. As far as Guru was concerned, there were only two major points points that really were "wack":

- recycling of a verse he had "freestyled" on "Capture (Militia Part III)"

- going overboard with the greasy talk/braggadocio on several tracks

some might mention the "degweez" line but that was hilarious especially with the way that atruhead pointed it out:

"degweez

that's horrible"

LMAO.

Guru's performance on "Sabotage", and "Zonin" pretty much kept the any other minor shortfalls in check.

Their legacy lives on tho.

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No frontin' I'm sad this is happening like this. I'd rather they hung it up together as a group than break up and do solos. Guru sounds best with Preme but hey I'm just a fan..so...oh well..

i have no idea what to write. thats insane... peace.

maybe Ownerz wasn't their best album, but it was definetly a worhty album. i dont know why yall be hating on it so much. of course moment of truth, step in the arena, hard to earn, etc... were all classics, but the ownerz wasn't bad at all for all the rubish that is out now. o well, im still waiting for a more official word than this

That some sad news, but the party can't last forever I guess..
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i liked the Ownerz because the beats were tight but Guru not so much,

shit though, i guess i sortof agree with the idea that they went out on top, Daily Operation and Step into the Arena are top 50 hip hop albums of all time IMO

Oh yeah. they had a good run but its time.

Damn man, that just fucked my whole shit up... Thoes two will be back......... Right?
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that it was a greatest hits joint.

But on the real,I'd cop a digitally re-mastered Gangstarr boxset.

Bonus Instrumental Discs

a DVD of all their videos and a behind the scenes documentary on Gangstarr.

and it sold well at that!
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was good, but I'm talking the works.Instrumentals for all the tracks,bundled with their videos and a documentary.More of a Box set than a greatest hits CD.

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guru changed that album cover

I don't care who his boy is, When I read it in a a interview from Guru or Premier, then I will believe it

And I haven't much to say on this split cause it's apparent the union wasn't working for a long time.

where did u hear about this "gang starr in '06"? and where did u hear it was a box set?

I'm waiting for official word. This just cannot stand. I'm used to them doing their own thing (Jazzamatazz, Baldhead Slick and the Clique) but it has, and always will be, Guru and Premier. So The Ownerz didn't set the world ablaze like so many people wanted it to. I'm not buying the breakup shit just yet.


However....



If it does prove true, you better put be on suicide alert like they had to do my brother when EPMD broke up.


*puts on Credit Is Due, then Mass Appeal for 5 hours in constant prayer vigil*

they're caught up in litigation w/ Virgin right now. They thought they were done w/ their contract and ready to go elsewhere, Virgin said "you got more". GS are trying to make the Hits & Vids set the last, but Virgin saying Hits don't count, you owe another full studio set...

*sound familiar Tribe fans?*

Tribe "broke up" cause they were mad at Jive. Took a few years off, Jive put out a Hits set and a Rarities set. Tribe thought that finished their contract, said "We're back together!". Jive said "Oh, good. Now that you're together again, remember that Hits sets don't count in your contract. Anything you record together is ours. We put those comps out just to keep fresh product in the market" Tribe "breaks up" again...

As far as GangStarr goes, I'm kinda glad, cause now that Jermaine Dupri is head of Urban EMI, do we really want Guru rapping to Dupri's bells (on a sure sign of the end times, a Primo/Dupri CO-PRODUCTION???? *shivers*)

this is somewhat sad to me. That Matrix looking album cover design for Guru's album shows his solo decision making is iffy.

Phil