>was that your impression when KRS spit that line 15-20 years
>ago
>
>'then they wind up shooting they cousin, and they buggin'

word because the album title is obviously a *direct* quote of that line which is in *direct* reference to the context of the quote as played out for the *entire* project. (<<sarcasm, congrats on passing hip-hop 104 though).

>you obviously put alot of thought into your reply

And you obviously didn't pay close enough attention and jumped to conclusions for yours.

>but this is where you lost...

implying that i lost. lost what? was there something up for debate. was i trying to win something, or maybe just have an intelligent conversation with my boy Bomb?

>
>"But it isn't perfect and that's probably what makes it the
>most difficult. I'm probably not the only one but I'm so tired
>of hearing plodding drums on Roots projects. Even if they are
>crisp and strong sounding when they just plod along all sparse
>I just keep thinking c'mon.... give the drummer some. Then the
>singers are all so (sorry) tone deaf it just kills me. Like I
>know that the quirky not quite on key shit is hip right now,
>but for me its just a huge disconnect. Get some strong
>vocalists and some fucking harmonies on those hooks and you
>could sell the message better. Lastly it's hard to believe
>Black Thought and even Dice on this mainly because they are
>spitting the same as when they aren't doing the lyrical theme
>for the album. Like the spit is raw but the content of it
>doesn't emote proper. Porn is the saving grace in this respect
>because he is able to embody the emotion of the
>characterization."

Love the way you selectively chose to leave out the part where I explicitly say it's not perfect and in fact a difficult listen.

>^^^why would anything else even matter

Because the topic of discussion isn't whether or not the album is good but rather the state of the group and how the album fits in with their legacy.

>if it's not good, why can't we just say it's not good

You can say whatever you want to.

>SON! It's not a good album.

Thanks for sharing. Just note that nowhere in my post did I say it was good. Nor did I even say I liked the album. Closest I came is saying I like the direction that The Roots are going. But even that was contextualized for me as an individual who enjoys off kilter shit. But despite that I clearly imply the execution was lacking which was the point of the paragraph you selectively swiped.

>You can get all insightful, reach for logic about the deeper
>meaning of the lyrics, concept, etc...
>
>but when we're talking about music

Actually we're talking about something more than music. We're talking about art intended to carry a message not just entertain. You want to be entertained, it's quite obvious The Roots albums are no longer targeted toward you. If you want to be engaged in something which may have a meaning more profound then what you hear on the surface then maybe you should continue to listen. Doesn't bother me either way, I'm just saying don't dismiss what they are doing as being sub standard. They've changed their standards. Evaluate it on its own merits or find something else.

>if the music isn't good, why would any of this other BS plea
>cops that folks are quick to hide behind even factor in
>
>MFers tryin' to convince themselves to like it

No one's trying to convince anyone of anything, let alone myself. I'm just trying to provide context which you either got or missed completely. If you missed it completely maybe it wasn't meant for you at all.

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