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174285, RE: you are a funny motherfucker, man.
Posted by vee-lover, Fri Feb-10-12 05:50 PM
>>fact alone he played multiple instruments...before he
>>released his 1st cd
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>You mean "album," youngblood.
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>And for your information, a LOT of people knew how to play
>multiple instruments back then. What made them call Prince a
>genius was more than that... it started out as pure marketing,
>a way for them to piggyback off Stevie's shine. But he soon
>was able to live up to the hype via his songwriting and
>performance.

who are these "a lot of ppl" you're referring to? And how many were able to do it before they were 21? Yes, part of it for Prine was marketing but I just watched a documentary on Prince and how all the ppl at warner bros. were amazed when he was brought to them at his ability to play all the instruments...and for that reason the head execs at the label said "they knew they had a genius on their hands." And that was before the release of FOR YOU....even upon knowing he could play every instrument, they still didn't want to give him complete control over his music and wanted him to bring in other produces...and yet, they knew by then he was multi-talented.
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>But it was NOT because of playing multiple instruments. Ray
>Parker Jr. also played all the instruments on his albums and
>nobody was calling him a genius.

Ray Parker mainly just played guitar on his albums...so much for being accurate.

>LMAO you are funny. When did I say that I hadn't heard "U Will
>Know"?

no, you said I hadn't heard of him writing songs before he was 21.
>
>I'm just not sure how writing a song on the Jason's Lyric
>soundtrack automatically = genius.

how many 20 yrs old have there been in recent memory that were writing material for other ppl? furtermore, how many of them were self taught musicians?
>
>You must have some pretty low fucking standards.

no you're just one of these nitpicking lesson head nerd mofos who try and critique everything as if you're a writer for some magazine.
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>And for the record, D'Angelo was 20 when Jason's Lyric and "U
>WIll Know" came out... not 16. He might have originally
>written the song when he was 16, but I haven't heard the
>original version and I'm pretty sure you haven't. So neither
>one of us is in a position to speak about its genius.

I said he was writing material for his church choir for at 16. Anyway, how many 19 or 20 yr old songwriters out there now?

>I don't think either one is a work of genius, but I think
>Prince's debut has more moments on it that signal a future
>genius. Grooves like "Soft n Wet" sounded like shit nobody had
>ever heard before while D'Angelo's shit sounded like stuff
>from 20 years before. Prince was totally futuristic while D
>was retro.

hahahahahahahaha....and you say I'm funny. "For you" was a good record for its time but in noway does that ALBUM compare to "Brown Sugar," it was largely praised because it was a 17 yr old kid who wrote and played all the instruments foh....and BS didn't sound like something from 20 yrs ago, it had musical influences from the past but it sounded very current because of the HipHop element. Talk abt revisionist history - nobody was saying Prince's early stuff was genius or signs of things to come...smh
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>And by the way, Prince was being called a genius not before
>anybody had heard a song from him... it was based on "Just As
>Long As We're Together/Jelly Jam," which he recorded
>singlehandedly in the studio while WB executives looked on...
>and it IS a pretty hot jam, funkier than anything D has ever
>done.
>
>So let's be accurate about stuff here, shall we?

k....
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>>>Only thing he played on Brown Sugar was keys, man.
>>
>>I suggest you go and check the credits then...
>
>Fool, I just posted the credits for you to see, so what are
>you talking about?

I got the album dumbass mofo and I'm looking at the credits for who got the credit...besides, I/we KNOW he can play all those instruments because I've seen him do it. so that's a moot point anyway.
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