RIP to Phife Dawg, the five foot assassin. What a dope album. I never knew Jarobi actually rapped, let alone could rap well! Busta on Mobius was reminiscent of Scenario. Much respect to everyone involved in this album's creation.

Hearing an 'in and dedicated' Phife is really bittersweet thing to me. Miss that dude

This has happened to me before when expecting a certain sound or vibe from an album that isn't there.

I'll have to revisit it in a few days and listen with "open ears."

But it wasn't what my ears wanted on first listen.

Doesn't mean I won't change my mind - I've certainly had that happened.

I wanted 1993 Tribe - it's 2016 and that Tribe no longer exists.

on that solo Renaissance Q-tip production shit.

which aint a bad thing to me.

>on that solo Renaissance Q-tip production shit.
That was a great Q-Tip record.

What I feel with this one (on first listen and not all of it yet - still very early) that this is the "Kamal the Abstract" production shit.

Doesn't seems as coherent (sonic-ly or lyrical-ly) as the Tribe album *I* wanted hear that is in my head. But BRL and TLM didn't either.

I'll be watching SNL, and I'll keep listening - but on *first blush* its not the Tribe record I wanted.

I have been wrong before - notably about Gangstarr's Hard to Earn and The Beatnuts's first full length album. Those took months before they clicked in *my* head.

I guess having "samples on live production" versus having "sample based production" really brought out a glaring difference for the group's chemistry. To me, Tip's production hasn't really took too much advances from The Renaissance on this album. That's why I made that analysis.

All I know is that this record seems to have more replay value than De La's album upon 1st day listens.....to me.

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

I was sold on track one and loving it track after track. Way better first impression than their last two. I don't know if it will have staying power like their first 3 classics but its very good stuff in 2016.

Sweet Christmas!!!

My goodness. That did my spirit well. I want to believe he heard the beat, lost his mind, and freestyled the whole thing in one take.

He's still got it

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

I really enjoy the music and vibe, though it's undoubtedly not a "Tribe" album no matter which album of theirs you want to compare it to. a lot of live instruments.

almost through my second listen, so far my biggest concern is that a lot of the lyrics feel half-done, there is a lot of mumbling or lines that shift direction mid-rhyme. it's awkward.

also not too impressed with Andre here, feels like his verse here and on Travi$ Scott's album shoulda swapped places.

and Jack White's (I assume) guitar outro to "Lost Somebody" feels lifted from a At the Drive-In track.

~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

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Listened twice through with my friends, and we all had a few chill-inducing moments. If this all Tip production-wise he deserves a lot of praise. Eclectic. He and Phife still sound great together. Will add on later.

...Phife spitting that truth. This is really HIP-HOP. Instruments and all. Haven't smiled this much listening to something for a while. I love it.

Man, when Busta comes in the first time, I yelled.

and poppin.

man OH MAN!!!!

This shit is beautiful!

Even with all the bullshit going on now, THIS WAS NEEDED!!!!!

It's like they knew DT was going to win and this is the first official artistic statement in response to this new era.

SNL will be the same for comedy w Dave Chappelle reacting for the nation in what has been one of the biggest political/entertainment forums this election cycle.

They updated the formula quite nicely.

Off the first few listens I like the first half of the album best.

And the first track Space Program?? Wheeeeeew!!!!!!!

And yes, it's better than the De La (tho the De La is dope) lol.

Total 180 by them in that regard here....

Kinda demo like almost...

and Mobius.....*HARD BLINK*

This shit is HARD BODY!

Happy, real happy.

I'll come back later.
__
I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

I ordered from the ATCQ website.
I get an error when I try to submit my zip code.

because I didn't wanna wait to get home and download it from the site.

Good luck with that...

pretty easy one too, check your inbox.

...first listen this is everything I could have asked for. Blew my expectations out the water.

This is just the album that was needed after this week.

It's deep. It's playful. It's fun. It's sad. It's hopeful. It's critical.

The back and forth is great.
Andre 3K!
We The People!

Lost Somebody is beautiful and heartbreaking. The way the track cuts short right after "no more crying" just like Phife'/ life was cut short.

I dunno about you but I love it.

Gotta dive back in and digest it further...

>
>Lost Somebody is beautiful and heartbreaking. The way the
>track cuts short right after "no more crying" just like
>Phife'/ life was cut short.
>

"... he's alright now!"

Piano sounds great.

A bit more than a "sample" I would say.

and i love it!!! until the bassline comes in @ 0.25
metric modulation fo yo ass

I got like 40 seconds into it and I had to cut it off.

shit sounded so good, I almost started crying in public. I did NOT expect that reaction from myself.

not sure when I'm gonna attempt to listen again. I gotta sit around people all day, lol.

but sip and vibe. Or you can ride around the city with the windows down and just take it all in.

and downloaded it to my phone. I'm not even gonna listen to it til tomorrow when I'm off and at home chillin. I'm gonna go out and sit on my deck and use my good headphones. Last weekend I had a short (3hr) road trip. That's how I listened to Common. Shit was so great.

Or shall I say on my side of the building? Most of these folks WFH on Fridays.

I'm staring, out of the massive windows in front of my desk, at Camden Yards and The Big Crabcake while this joint plays on repeat. Of course, I only have one ear bud in because I want to hear if someone from the other side of the building decides to sneak up on me.

That Bang & Olufsen is gonna be a treat to my ears on the ride home.

DIS GENERATION!

>I'm staring, out of the massive windows in front of my desk,
>at Camden Yards and The Big Crabcake while this joint plays on
>repeat.

I was visiting Boston for the first time, last weekend. Put on the common album and just walked through city. New city, new common, was a great way to digest.


werd.

I listened first thing this morning when I woke and damn I felt close to tears.

I had low expectations, I couldn't fathom how 18 years since their last album and 23 since my favourite LP of theirs that the vibe could be recaptured.

I love it!

keep the kleenex handy....HAHA!

on my 3rd listen now.. and it gets better each time..

Favorite joints so far:

The Space Program
We The People
Black Spasmodic
Ego (that 2001 sample holy shit!!!!)
The Donald

I was like SHIT! That bamma flowin!

Then, Anderson. Paak comes in.

So true. Makes me wonder how the other albums would have sounded if he decided to stay with the group. He took me by surprise.

if you're a younger fan and love kendrick and cole this album is def something you will love...

for those of us who grew up with Tribe I agree with the sentiments above, almost got emotional listening to it

I love it... then again I love the Love Movement and B,R,L too...

Tribe's already pristine discography has somehow improve

>if you're a younger fan and love kendrick and cole this album
>is def something you will love...
>
>for those of us who grew up with Tribe I agree with the
>sentiments above, almost got emotional listening to it
>
>I love it... then again I love the Love Movement and B,R,L
>too...
>
>Tribe's already pristine discography has somehow improve

Especially the first half. Good to hear Jarobi spitting bars.

Kamaal The Abstract and The Renaissance than any of the other Tribe albums. Those albums are good, but yeah

The production is a zillion time better on Renaissance.

I'm pulling out the Sony cans for this, just like I've done for every album they've done. Be back in a little while.

Switched that shit out for my Sony Turntable cans. Honestly, the production feels Tinny so the over the ear headphones really helped.


werd.

I'm only 7 tracks in but already first impression way better than BR&L and TLM were when they dropped. Will see how I feel after finishing and repeat listens but this shit is what I needed.

Songs without are good as well, but when the 5ft assassin gets on, CHILLLLLS.

Only listened once through, need to listen 8 more times to get all the nuances ... but it's a tasty treat for sure!

werd.

i don't care too much for new stuff from most 90s acts but i'm really liking this so far

The album is really good.

It's helping me get through this tough week.

It is bittersweet like a mofo though...

I really like Consequence on this record. His verses are well placed.

standouts:
KIDS...
EGO
BLACK SPASMODIC

but the entire album is awesome. So Happy today!!!

it sounds like tribe, yet it sounds like 2016.

i've been a little leery since the announcement, but i'm really loving it.

Love how meticulous this is sounding, beats and rhymes.

listened to it on a good pair of studio speakers and it sounded ehhh

love everything else though

That's the one complaint I have with the album. Love everything else.

and it's welcome to me...

Keeping it almost impromptu, hip hop and raw...

We all know they can do the clean, sheen shit...

I like that they flipped it a bit, but still kept it tribe.

werd.

even by Tribe standards. There isn't a hair out of place on the entire thing, and it's flawlessly executed.

Maybe the most endearing aspects of it are Tip and Phife's telepathic chemistry. You can tell they were in sync on the songs they worked on together, with "together" being the operative word. Both apart and complimentary, their emcee performances ground the album, leaving the music to go somewhere else. Everything feels like Tribe, no matter what they did sonically, but more importanly it *feels* like Tribe.

Q-Tip just moved up even further on the list of all-time greats, his flow and lyricism have taken another leap forward. The guy was on song with his heir apparent and he sounded both contemporary and masterful at the same time, and that point is driven home when you realize 3 Stacks is using one of Tip's flows. And Phife's vigor, whimsy and sharpness betrays the fact that he was literally dying during the recording of this album. I can't say enough how good it was to hear him and Tip in harmony, and Phife sounding and feeling like he did on Low End. And Jarobi low keyed MURDERED this album.

Even though the record is dark and experiental, that subliminal effect that Tribe has is still in effect. It's not angry, but aggressive and hopeful. I have no clue how they presented the current frustration and palpable dread of black people in America, while simulataneously offering an uplifting spirit with equal precision. This is the work of gods.

It's almost unheard of in Hip Hop for a group or artist to still be hitting creative high marks with almost thirty years in, but between them and De La, The Native Tongues showed off and showed out this year and once again showed us the handbook to the future...but this time as veterans and not newcomers.

This is really the last album, the fact that Phife isn't here to make another one and their contract is fulfilled drives the finality home. But this is one hell of a document to leave behind, and their legacy has come full circle in the process.

perfect way to go out, especially knowing they mended fences personally

PHEW - phife and kendrick. I love that Tip ISN'T on this. well played. I've listened to this over and over. short and sweet



werd.

But here we are.

even though he never gets the credit for being so.

Kendrick's verse is a whirlwind on that shit, Phife's sets the tone so nicely though, with those random word associations, quotables and everyman swagger.

I go back and forth on favorite track but that one wins out more times than it loses.

This song and by extension, this album is fucking beautiful.

at home rockin to this right now. She says that her favorite song at the moment is "Kids..." Damn! I feel good that I'm 2 for 2 with children who enjoy and appreciate MY music.

My 24 year old son sent me a snapshot of the album cover as it played through his phone. I've had him listening to Tribe, De La, etc. since he was in diapers.

45 ain't so bad at all. LOL

And this album is phenomenal. I hope they tour with De La, Common, and/or The Roots at the beginning of next year to bring that momentum to us live and direct! Live and direct!

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

it is a play through the end album
with no skip

This is just so timely on multiple levels for me right now. What an album.

I woulda pulled Kweli's verse on the Killing Season after he's done it gets real. Overall all pretty good a little all over the place but still good. Lost Somebody is terrific. Cons got busy on this album Jarobi did really well too. I like two a lot, side one I got register it more it the side that is kinda everywhere

So many thoughts but I'll just leave some preliminary ones here.

- first "disc" stronger than the second IMO
- that said "Conrad Tokyo" probly my favorite track on first listen
- such a Tribe album in terms of vibe (back and forth MCing, things like that) but can be compared to no Tribe album before it (a good thing)
- more traditional than De La's album production-wise in that it's more boom bap but it's no question a modern, updated sound even in its nostalgia
- so much more to take in lyrically on repeat listens but Phife sounds as good as ever lyrically and flow-wise and he and QTip didn't lose a step in terms of their comparability. They are so natural together. Sad we'll never get it again
- the guest spots work really well. Paak and Kendrick are highlights. But none sound forced
- nice to hear Jarobi and Consequence spitting
- I love how they didn't play up the "we're back!" Factor a bunch. They acted like they never left and it showed in the album's consistency and fluidity

More to come. But I'm so happy. So glad to have this and Common to calm me this week. And De La.

Mainly curious how involved Ali Shaheed Muhammad was with this.

.

I really needed this

have those OKPs who were all in justin and atruhead's threads HELLA skeptical collected their Ls

on the same track. This fucking year.

In the best possible way.

Still processing this album. Such an overwhelming listen--in a good way, of course.

So far I'm impressed, great to see the crew together again....still digesting...I wonder if Tip used a lot of beats from his "Last Zulu" release on this Tribe project?

Same for "Whateva Will Be".

Not saying it's a bad thing, but that's the feeling I get with Q-Tip singing.

need to give it a few more spins but so far so good. sounds like a good mix of all their previous albums with some updated sounds

i was also pleasantly surprised with busta, he came with it

oh and strangely enough my least favorite track is the paak one. i'm a huge fan but i could've done without him on there

http://pitchfork.com/news/69742-here-are-the-full-credits-for-the-new-tribe-called-quest-album/

1. “Space Program”

Written by Kamaal Fareed, Malik Izaak Taylor and Jarobi White
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / Jazz Merchant Music (ASCAP)/Universal Music- ZTunes, LLC / Alaric Publishing House (ASCAP)
Vocals by Q-Tip, Phife and Jarobi
Keyboards by Q-Tip and Masayuki “BIGYUKI” Hirano
Drums by Q-Tip
Bass by Louis Cato
Guitar by Chris Sholar

2. “We the People”

Written by Kamaal Fareed, Malik Izaak Taylor, Terrance Butler, Anthony Frank Iommi, John Osbourne and William Ward
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / Jazz Merchant Music (ASCAP)/Universal Music- ZTunes, LLC / Essex Music International, Inc. (ASCAP/PRS)
Vocals by Q-Tip and Phife
Bass by Q-Tip
Keyboards by Q-Tip and Casey Benjamin
Drum Programming by Q-Tip
Contains a sample of Black Sabbath’s “Behind The Wall Of Sleep”

3. “Whateva Will Be”

Written by Kamaal Fareed, Malik Izaak Taylor, Jarobi White, Dexter Mills and Winston Jones
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / Jazz Merchant Music (ASCAP)/Universal Music- ZTunes, LLC / Alaric Publishing House (ASCAP) / Songs by Cons Publishing (BMI) / Winston Jones Publishing
Vocals by Q-Tip, Phife, Jarobi and Consequence
Drums by Q-Tip
Consequence appears courtesy of Company of Greatness
Contains samples of Nairobi Sisters’ “Promised Land”

4. “Solid Wall of Sound”

Written by Kamaal Fareed, Malik Izaak Taylor, Trevor Smith and Jack White
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / Jazz Merchant Music (ASCAP)/Universal Music- ZTunes, LLC / Tziah Music/Songs of Kobalt Music Publishing (BMI) / Peppermint Stripe Music (BMI)
Vocals by Q-Tip, Phife, Busta Rhymes, Jack White and Elton John
Drums by Q-Tip
Bass by Q-Tip
Keyboards by Masayuki “BIGYUKI” Hirano
Piano by Elton John
Acoustic Guitar by Jack White
Jack White appears courtesy of Third Man Records
Elton John appears courtesy of Mercury Records Limited

5. “Dis Generation”

Written by Kamaal Fareed, Malik Izaak Taylor, Jarobi White, Trevor Smith, Headley Bennett, Huford Brown, Lloyd Ferguson, Robert Lyn, Jackie Mittoo, Leroy Sibblis, Fitzroy Simpson, Holgar Czukay, Michael Karoli, Jaki Liebezeit, Irmin Schmidt and Damo Suzuki
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / Jazz Merchant Music (ASCAP)/Universal Music- ZTunes, LLC / Alaric Publishing House (ASCAP) / Tziah Music/Songs of Kobalt Music Publishing (BMI) / Edward Kassner Associated Publishers Ltd./Downtown Music Publishing (ASCAP) / Music Sales Corporation (ASCAP) / Spoon Music (GEMA)
Vocals by Q-Tip, Phife, Jarobi and Busta Rhymes
Additional Phife Vocals Recorded by Michael Starita at Fantasy Studios, Berkeley, CA
Assistant Engineers at Fantasy Studios: Laura Gonzalez and Robert Kirby
Keyboards by Q-Tip
Drum Programming by Q-Tip
Contains samples of Musical Youth’s “Pass the Dutchie” and Can’s “Halleluhwah”

6. “Kids...”

Written by Kamaal Fareed and André Lauren Benjamin
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / BMG Monarch (ASCAP)/Gnat Booty Music (ASCAP)
Vocals by Q-Tip and André 3000
Drums by Q-Tip
Bass by Q-Tip
Keyboards by Casey Benjamin and Masayuki “BIGYUKI” Hirano

7. “Melatonin”

Written by Kamaal Fareed, Marsha Ambrosius, Hirano Masayuki and Louis Cato
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / BMG Chrysalis Music (BMI) / Hirano Masayuki (ASCAP) / Louis Cato (ASCAP)
Vocals by Q-Tip, Marsha Ambrosius and Abbey Smith
Drums by Q-Tip
Additional Drums by Mark Colenburg
Bass by Thaddaeus Tribbett
Additional Bass by Louis Cato
Fender Rhodes by Casey Benjamin
Synthesizer by Masayuki “BIGYUKI” Hirano
Drum Programming by Q-Tip
Guitar by Chris Sholar

8. “Enough!!”

Written by Kamaal Fareed
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP
Vocals by Q-Tip
Bass by Q-Tip
Keyboards by Masayuki “BIGYUKI” Hirano
Scratches by George “DJ Scratch” Spivey

9. “Mobius”

Written by Kamaal Fareed, Trevor Smith, Dexter Mills, Kerry Minnear, Derek Shulman, Philip Shulman and Raymond Shulman
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / Tziah Music/Songs of Kobalt Music Publishing (BMI) / Songs by Cons Publishing (BMI) / BMG Blue (PRS)/BMG Rights Management US LLC (BMI)
Vocals by Q-Tip, Busta Rhymes and Consequence
Bass by Q-Tip
Piano by Masayuki “BIGYUKI” Hirano
Organ by Casey Benjamin
Guitar by Blair Wells
Acoustic Guitar by Chris Sholar
Consequence appears courtesy of Company of Greatness
Contains a portion of the composition “Prologue,” written by Kerry Minnear, Derek Shulman, Philip Shulman and Raymond Shulman

10. Black Spasmodic

Written by Kamaal Fareed and Malik Izaak Taylor
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / Jazz Merchant Music (ASCAP)/Universal Music- ZTunes, LLC
Vocals by Q-Tip and Phife
Bass by Q-Tip

11. The Killing Season

Written by Kamaal Fareed, Jarobi White, Dexter Mills and Talib Kweli Greene
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / Alaric Publishing House (ASCAP) / Songs by Cons Publishing (BMI) / Pen Skills Music/Songs Of Windswept Pacific (BMI)
Vocals by Q-Tip, Jarobi, Consequence, Talib Kweli and Kanye West
Bass by Q-Tip
Keyboards by Masayuki “BIGYUKI” Hirano and Q-Tip
Guitar by Louis Cato
Consequence appears courtesy of Company of Greatness
Kanye West appears courtesy of Getting Out Our Dreams, Inc./Def Jam Recordings, a division of UMG Recordings, Inc.

12. “Lost Somebody”

Written by Kamaal Fareed, Jarobi White, Holgar Czukay, Michael Karoli, Jaki Liebezeit, Irmin Schmidt and Damo Suzuki
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / Alaric Publishing House (ASCAP) / Spoon Music (GEMA)
Vocals by Q-Tip, Jarobi and Katia Cadet
Bass by Q-Tip
Piano by Chris Bower
Guitar by Chris Sholar
Guitar by Chris Parks
Contains a sample of Can’s “Halleluhwah”

13. “Movin’ Backwards”

Written by Kamaal Fareed and Brandon Paak Anderson
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / Watch and Learn Publishing (BMI)
Vocals by Q-Tip and Anderson .Paak
Drums by Q-Tip
Bass by Q-Tip
Keyboards by Casey Benjamin
Guitar by Chris Sholar
Anderson .Paak appears courtesy of Aftermath Records

14. “Conrad Tokyo”

Written by Kamaal Fareed, Malik Izaak Taylor and Kendrick Lamar Duckworth
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / Jazz Merchant Music (ASCAP)/Universal Music- ZTunes, LLC / WB Music Corp. (ASCAP)/Hard Working Black Folks Inc. (ASCAP) and Top Dawg Music (ASCAP) all rights o/b/o itself, Hard Working Black Folks Inc. and Top Dawg Music admin. by WB Music Corp.
Vocals by Phife and Kendrick Lamar
Drum Programming by Q-Tip

15. “Ego”

Written by Kamaal Fareed and Jack White
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP / Peppermint Stripe Music (BMI)
Vocals by Q-Tip
Bass by Q-Tip and Louis Cato
Guitar by Jack White and Chris Sholar
Piano by Casey Benjamin
Scratches by George “DJ Scratch” Spivey

16. “The Donald”

Written by Kamaal Fareed
Published by U Betta Like My Muzik (ASCAP)/Songs of SMP
Vocals by Q-Tip, Phife and Busta Rhymes and Katia Cadet
Bass by Q-Tip
Guitar by Jack White and Louis Cato
Keyboards by Masayuki “BIGYUKI” Hirano
Scratches by George “DJ Scratch” Spivey

Executive Produced by ATCQ

Produced by Q-Tip
Co-Produced by Blair Wells
Recorded by Blair Wells and Q-Tip at the AbLab, NJ
Assistant Engineering: Gloria Kaba
Mixed by Q-Tip and Blair Wells at the AbLab, NJ except “The Space Program”, “We The People….”, “Solid Wall of Sound”, “Kids…”, “Melatonin”, “Enough!!” and “Lost Somebody”
Mixed by Q-Tip, Dave Kennedy and Blair Wells at the AbLab, NJ
Mastered by Vlado Meller at Vlado Meller Mastering
Mastering Assistant: Jeremy Lubsey
A&R: Michael Ostin and Kim Lumpkin
Project Consultation: Tracey Waples
A&R Admin: Bekah Connolly
Business Affairs: Stephanie Yu, Shane St. Hill and Robert Faulstich
Product Manager: Thom Skarzynski
Album Cover Designed by: Richard Prince
Epic Creative Director: Anita Boriboon
Management: Michael Ostin, Dion Liverpool, Monica Talavera, Kim Lumpkin
ATCQ Legal Representation: Julian K. Petty and Carron J. Mitchell for Nixon Peabody LLP
ATCQ Business Management: Kyle Tessiero for NKSFB, LLC.

Where is Ali?!?!?????





"I'm twenty-two, catch
In the prime of my life,
I don't have time to be a wife"

https://twitter.com/MeeshUniVerSoul
https://instagram.com/soul.con.fusion/

"She was on that tip about stoppin' the violence
About my people she was teachin' me..."

Stated in the Rolling Stone podcast that his biggest contribution was encouraging Phife to stick with this project. They show his picture teleconferencing with the others in this Complex piece. Also, looks like they'll be a documentary of some type by Complex released soon.
http://www.complex.com/music/making-of-a-tribe-called-quest-final-album

Man, I am hung up on Black Spasmodic right now. And Solid Wall of Sound.

but that kinda low key shows the TRUE influence/impact in sound that he had on the previous joints

Album is still good tho

not necessarily because it doesn't all sound pretty Tip-like, but these days so many big albums are so earnest in crediting everybody involved with the music even if all they did was turn a couple knobs while walking through the room.


~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

But yeah, the fact that he was working on Luke Cage means it would have been difficult to work on the album.

saw him open for Gogo Penguin a little bit ago

The credits say only Tip is on Enough, but this clearly isn't the case. Maybe Ali is similarly omitted?

Love all of it.

The only once I can definitely catch is the little very brief Bonita Applebum snippets in Enough.

I'm sure there are others; what else have you folks picked out?

n/m

of Solid Wall of Sound...and again as soon as the music ends on Conrad, Tokyo.

.

>The only once I can definitely catch is the little very brief
>Bonita Applebum snippets in Enough.

Love the rewarding repeated listens.

the starting of every album except People's Instinctive Travels has been music and words building up to the drum (Excursions, Steve Biko, Phony Rappers, Start It Up), they rehashed that on The Space Program as well

Both song choices were in my fav list for the album....

All is well.

Dude has legit stage presence.

Gave it three listens before posting, but yo "Solid Wall of Sound" is beautiful b.

>Gave it three listens before posting, but yo "Solid Wall of
>Sound" is beautiful b.

Better than BRL? I can't say that personally but its very dope to me..

that BR&L and TLM lacked.

I particularly loved Tip & Phife in unison in the beginning of The Space Program, then later in the song it's just Phife solo with the same words. The NBA references on Dis Generation made me smile too...RIP Phife. Hats off to Q-Tip on the amazing beats & rhymes. I'm just so happy that an album of this caliber exists, and it somehow came from ATCQ in 2016.

listened to the album for the first time this morning. 30 degrees out...I hit the street all Northfaced up and walked to the coffee spot. A shade over 2 miles each way. Nice, brisk walk with Tribe in the Bose cans. Thoughts after 1 complete listen:

Space Program is good...real good

Phife has some dope lines in We the People

Solid Wall of Sound might be my second favorite

I don't hate Kids...I feel like I should like it more than I do, though. Just a little wacky...I can't call it.

I don't usually care for rapper sex songs, but they made Enough work. It works. I like it.

They should have taken that 1st verse off of Mobius. The way Busta dismantled that track just wasn't fair...to anyone else.

Lost Somebody was tough

Conrad Tokyo made me smile ear to ear

We The People
Whateva Will Be
Melatonin (especially)

Off my first few listens, these seem like Kamaal The Abstract stuff.

Not saying it's a bad thing. I especially love Melatonin.

On one of the pages it speaks about how he already had beats and skeletons for a bunch of stuff. It does sound Kamaal The Abstract-like but with dope rhymes and with some proper editing to weed out the unneeded stuff that meandered on that album. Those songs you mentioned, especially Melatonin, is solo Tip stuff all the way. I love it.

http://www.okayplayer.com/news/secret-history-a-tribe-called-quest-we-got-it-from-here-thank-you-for-your-service.html

But hasn't it been revealed that the first 3 Tribe albums were essentially Qtip solo productions as well? That's what I've heard anyways. All this 'Qtip handled most of the production work' talk....how do people think the first three albums were made? Pretty sure Tip has already said 'I produced all the beats for the first three Tribe Called Quest albums'.

himself to be capable producer so people want to believe he was more influential than maybe he actually was. Personally I consider Tip the producer of Tribe, end of story.

That is if he wasn't already there to begin with.

I also think he's got a strong claim for greatest rapper/producer ever.

>I also think he's got a strong claim for greatest
>rapper/producer ever.

I think he can already claim that.

It has a sound similar to D'Angelo's Brown Sugar, Jon B.'s Cool Relax.
That's definitely Ali's sound.

That's it.

Tribe Tip somehow says more by saying less in the rhyme.

Solo Tip says more by saying more in the rhyme.

Either way Disc 2 is growing on me.

Noticed that Jarobi didn't get a writing credit for that song, so it might be a track that was conceived earlier, and Tip might have just had Jarobi drop a verse on it to make it a ATCQ song.

I know Kedrick was in the studio with Q-Tip 3 years ago.

http://2dopeboyz.com/2013/11/19/kendrick-lamar-q-tip-in-the-studio/

I can't really date his verse via any references but hopefully they have more stuff together in the can.

Can't stop playing the album.

I was thrilled to have another ATCQ Lp but this is pretty bad. Most def their worse album.

>I was thrilled to have another ATCQ Lp but this is pretty
>bad. Most def their worse album.

That would be The Love Movement

What don't you like?

>I was thrilled to have another ATCQ Lp but this is pretty
>bad. Most def their worse album.

Crack is wack....

.

I listened to it all weekend to let it sink in...man, Tribe came through! This LP is excellent and so timely...they really know how to start an album off. Jarobi goes off on the Space Program! Love hearing Phife & Tip together again.

http://www.okayplayer.com/news/secret-history-a-tribe-called-quest-we-got-it-from-here-thank-you-for-your-service.html


On Wednesday evening, New York City’s music community came together in the VW Dome at Queens PS 1 museum to hear A Tribe Called Quest’s final album We’ve Got It From Here…Thank You 4 Your Service for the first time. The assembled congregation comprised a who’s who of culture warriors including DJs, A&Rs, hip-hop journalists and most of the Okayplayer and Okayafrica staff as well Tribe’s extended family, management team and reps from Epic Records—all of whom had woken up that morning to learn that the KKK’s preferred candidate swept the crucial battleground states to win the electoral vote, becoming the President-Elect of the United States.

Woken up, that is, assuming they had slept at all in the previous 24 hours. The emotions people brought with them into that room ranged from shock to despondency to anger to a surreal, punch-drunk sense of disconnection. It is safe to say that everyone present welcomed the moment of community, if only to reaffirm their sanity by commiserating with old friends over a world that seemed to have lost its damn mind overnight. It’s also safe to say that the expectations placed on the music we were all about to hear were crazily, dizzily, high. They were probably dangerously high right from the moment the existence of a new ATCQ album was confirmed—the return of a game-changing force in music 18 years in the making. A reunion embarked upon on the very eve of one member’s untimely passing. But in that moment of post-election shock, most everyone in the room, consciously or not, rationally or not, was asking even more of A Tribe Called Quest. Most of us were looking to Tribe’s music to—if not save the damn world—then certainly to restore order to our little universe.

Impossibly, against all odds, as the first few bars of their track “Space Program” came on, A Tribe Called Quest delivered the bars, recorded months previously, that expressed exactly what everyone in that room needed to hear: “We got to get it together forever / Got to get it together for brothers / got to get it together for sisters / For mothers and fathers and dead n****s… We got to make something happen.”

All of which is to say that if you had to quickly sum up this album in a single word, if, say, you needed to email it to someone urgently, the single word subject line of that email would doubtless be: “important.” Important not just in a musicological sense (it is that) because A Tribe Called Quest’s album turns out to be less of a grand opus proclaiming the peak of the group’s sonic evolution, and much more a living document of the collective spirit and the simple, selfless camaraderie that gave the group life in the first place.

The musical groups we idolize—whether we imagine them as starship crews, cliques of cool kids or nomadic bands of hippie outlaws—are in some sense models of who we want to be, our ideal group-selves if you will. For that reason, nothing hurts a true devotee of hip-hop more than surveying the catalogue of pioneering progressive artists of a certain era who preached unity yet couldn’t keep their little 2 and 3-man crews together. This is why this audio record of Busta Rhymes, Consequence, Jarobi, Ali Shaheed Muhammad and—at it’s center—Phife Dawg and Q-Tip—rediscovering their chemistry line by line, celebrating the fierce joy of brotherhood as they spar in the creative mock combat of friends pushing each other toward excellence—is so important. It is a blueprint for how to get it together.

All of which is simply to frame why recording—in the moment—the history of this album is also important. For many of us, this album will be intertwined with a capital-H in History. We will remember that Tribe reunited on The Tonight Show the day after the Paris bombings. We will always remember where we were when we got the news that Phife Dawg was no longer among us. We will remember that we first heard this album while we were still trying to fathom the phrase ‘President Trump’. But the history of the creation itself—the process, the obstacles, the bubble and hiss of group chemistry, the decision to put out a new album at all—may be even more important. Because whether you are listening from within this moment of national division and pessimism, or listening outside of time, they are notes on how to get it right–and how to get it back right when it’s gone wrong.

Key members of A Tribe Called Quest’s inner circle provided the Secret History that follows, including our founder Questlove of The Roots, arguably Tribe’s #1 fan, who presided over their reunion on Jimmy Fallon’s set, Phife’s manager and best friend Dion Liverpool AKA DJ Rasta Root, his widow Deisha Taylor and Q-Tip’s longtime friend and Beats 1 collaborator Gary Harris (better known to many as “the man who signed D’Angelo”). Additionally, Q-Tip, Busta, Jarobi and Cons shared more insights and anecdotes about the album’s creation in conversation with Omar Dubois at the PS1 listening session.

Read on to receive the lessons their stories revealed.




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i understand that he was busy with Luke Cage while they were recording, & i understand that he might not actually have even played that big a role in their other albums either.

but, the production on this new album feels lacking overall. too much emphasis on bare guitars & bass. needs finishing touches that Ali Shaheed could've tweaked in certain places.

& there was a gap of time between this release date & Luke Cage. They shoulda figured out a way to have him play even a final minimal role, especially since its the last album they'll ever make.

and i see that i'm still waiting for EVERY SINGLE album in my sig from back then.

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haha

Bob Power's touch.

other than that im happy with it, but its a lot less "jazzy" than vintage tribe

Bob's work was so key in the end result that he really was an important group member.

i love the album; it does sound like an album made with computers in the 2010s.

It is fitting that he quarterbacked the album, and it should be appreciated for what it is, not what it isn't.

I know he did Cool Relax

Pardon me for getting my shameless plug on. I will that I think it's extremely dope, and wrote a lot about it. Could have written more; I didn't even get to mention two on my favorite tracks (Melatonin and Whatever Will Be).

http://www.albumism.com/reviews/a-tribe-called-quest-we-got-it-from-here-thank-you-4-your-service

My friend pointed out how much Jarobi sounds like Mike G from the JBs on this. And Tip''s got some People's Instinctive flow going. Cons is perfection on this. "Fuck you, and who you think I should be/Forward Movement". Damn. Great track.

when I first heard Whateva Will Be, the bassline stood out to me like I heard it before. Then I realized that it's the same sample used in Kurious' "Mansion & A Yacht" feat. Sadat X & Mike G. Just listened again and Jarobi does sound like him...great song.




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That Kurious joint was flames!

I KNEW THAT SHIT SOUNDED FAMILIAR!!! lol

Peace,

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The way it's mixed and everything. This record is just as much as nod to their history as itbis progressive.

i like the use of the congos....sounds like go-go

A few people said they liked the rawness of it but I'm having a hard time getting past how unpolished it sounds.

It starts out very strong but I feel like it doesn't hold. Lost someone could have been so much stronger but it was lacking....

its def better than TLM but behind BRL

>its def better than TLM but behind BRL

That's all I wanted. The album is a monster all the way through The Killing Season. Then falls off a little. I dig 2 of the last 5 songs.

It is a really really good album...I know it will grow on me...

when they realize the song is about replacing hate with love, and that they subbed out "Donald Trump" with "Phife Dawg" throughout the song.

they were wondering why Trump isn't mentioned in a song with his name on it.

Has nothing to do with donald trump, other than the vocal snippet that they cut off that just says donald

Go back to bashing Midnight

>Has nothing to do with donald trump, other than the vocal
>snippet that they cut off that just says donald


This^^^^is not true.....Yep, Don Juice was def. Phife's nickname...

But there's def. a meaning behind the song....

This is my jam. Reminds me of their playful style!!!

3000 and Tip has such a nice collabo in here... they should do an album together.


I ain't even gon' lie, I was probably high
Just forgot to call you back, simple as that
I ain't no almanac, so lick my dictionary
I might just call a cab 'cause I dig canary
Yellow accents on a dark bitch
I met her back when she kept all her carpet
I'm well aware all that shit is fantasy
I double dare y'all to fuck your plan B
That's ta mean a mamma's mannerisms
That mean, don't mean to get vulgar, but it some
Hoes in this bitch like a box of donuts
It's colder out than a bitch standing on the corner
Condolences to niggas that got erased
I pour out some liquor on the cops' graves
Mmm, digital church bells
Ringin' 'cross the street, show it work well


(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) For real (For real?)
For real (For real)
Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) For real (For real?)
For real (For real)


I don't wanna get up, no, I don't wanna go to school
I don't wanna be the best, don't wanna follow rules
Mom, I think you fuckin' lied to me
Three Stacks said all this shit is fantasy
It's my time, gon' put a little life to it
If life's an obstacle then I'mma bike through it
I see her like a kiddie on the carousel
If I hurl while I go around, what the hell
And that went well, so I'm compelled
To have visions of getting chicken while my friends get jailed
My young nigga motto was, "Fuck it, I'm already grown"
And I dream of when I'm 16, I'm out my home
That petty though, cut my mama boyfriend though
It's kinda lull like this old head hustle, yo
He cognizant of a nigga ride and die
I see us getting money through my green eyes


(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) For real (For real?)
For real (For real)


Yeah, all the kids, all the what, uh, what


Yeah, all the badass kids, uh
Kids say I'm the shit
I'm Chick-fil-A nuggets made on the french fries
The spicy Popeyes and Red Lobster biscuits
And girls scout thin mints
Pardon my penmanship, but oh shit
It's like I'm hungry now again
And I can't do nothing about it because my teeth are all rotted
And my mom and my pop, they just grand
And empathize with me 'cause they were little
Too bad they can't get back they "'member when's"
The grown-up stories don't work
In the court of the kiddies', the judgement is in
And while y'all doing all y'all bids, y'all reminisce as kids
Fuck it, kids, the grown-ups want on up
They stood on the corner like you want some
Time, and probably felt like a loner
Smelled like a stoner, snuck through their
So when they question you about who or who you ain't voting
Complaining that you always moaning, never saying good morning
Storming out my house and slamming doors like you pay your bills
They been through it too, though
They were kids like you, though
But what if they che nudo and hand you with the cheat code
Through a game you just start playing, no extra man
Leave you reckless on the court with no high percentage shot
Just a bunch of, "You got it, nigga, just give it what you got"
Yeah, a little different on the yacht, but ain't gon' lie, I miss kayaking
I love the young niggas, and they do too, they just be acting
Like a bunch of retired tired thesbians, a bit too salty
Shit, their blood pressure high, why?
They don't play no more, probably


(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
(Kids) Kids, don't you know how all this shit is fantasy?
A Tribe Called Quest - Kids... ft André 3000 (Lyrics)
A Tribe Called Quest - Kids... ft André 3000 (Lyrics)
A Tribe Called Quest - Kids... ft André 3000 (Lyrics)
A Tribe Called Quest - Kids... ft. André 3000 Lyrics
A Tribe Called Quest - Kids... ft. André 3000 Lyrics
A Tribe Called Quest - Kids... ft. André 3000 Lyrics
A Tribe Called Quest - Kids... ft. André 3000 Lyrics
A Tribe Called Quest - We Got It From Here... Thank You 4 Your Service

Love the album, hate the song.

Reminds me of "Benz Friendz" on Future's Honest album, totally out of place, sounds whack and I don't care what they two of them are rapping about. Totally useless for me.

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it started out like "eh, not my favorite but I don't hate it" and quickly progressed to "I fuckin can't stand this song", lol. I deleted it so the album flows right on through without it coming on.

LOL just kidding. to each his own. this could have been 3K feat. Tip just as well.

Hate me a little strong for me personally but I definitely dislike it in the context of this album. I usually skip it, which makes me sad.

The beat does nothing for me and the chorus is whatever.

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Childish Gambino - Awaken, My Love!
Bruno Mars - 24K Magic
DVSN - Sept. 5th
Solange - A Seat At The Table


"life is a heist, and the strong get a percentage" - Black Thought

I really feel like 90's hiphop dad in the whip since the Tribe
dropped lol.

The credits have Tip on vocals, but he doesn't have a verse in the song. It's just Cons and Busta.

on "repeat 1" for the entire commute home yesterday

... are SO familiar but I can't figure it out and it's driving me fucking insane. I can't be sure but I think it's a recent hip-hop song that has the same style guitar licks and the same kind of distant/echoing sound to it, if that makes sense.

I know the above is pathetic and could probably describe like 3 trillion songs so go easy on me. It's just killing me that I can't come up with it and I didn't know where else to turn haha. Someone help !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRqHpuAXhU4

.

and I didn't recognize the sample, was all week like "damn that shit sounds familiar" lmao

I like this one too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEjJbVarzYg

... over the summer, and when I went to "whosampled.com" to see if I could figure out what I was looking for this was one of the results that came up because it also sampled Pass the Dutchie.

...stellar production....Jarobi pulls a Phife.....Three Stacks sounds like he should be a member of Tribe.....Kendrick brings it short and sweet....

Phife? Tears....

What a wonderful surprise. Salute to Tip (went in on the rhymes)....Exceptional producer.......

>
>...stellar production....Jarobi pulls a Phife.....Three Stacks
>sounds like he should be a member of Tribe.....Kendrick brings
>it short and sweet....
>
>Phife? Tears....
>
>What a wonderful surprise. Salute to Tip (went in on the
>rhymes)....Exceptional producer.......

Gotta add Cons and Busta. They def delivered!

Kids just throws the vibe off for me. I love this album though. Can't even put into words how it really makes me feel. It's such a bright spot in such a shitty year.

>Kids just throws the vibe off for me. I love this album
>though. Can't even put into words how it really makes me feel.
>It's such a bright spot in such a shitty year.

That was hugely disappointing, specifically because it feels like a wasted opportunity for two greats. But you nailed it, the track sticks out like a sore thumb. Everything was rolling and grooving up to that point and that song was just a massive left turn out of nowhere.

I figured I may like it more on subsequent listens but that hasn't happened.

Maybe it'll stand up better on its own but as a part of this album it's not very good IMO. Mostly due to the beat.

but that's the beauty of music. It speaks to different people.

Basically...Kids is flames....

But I listened again tonite and man, maybe it's just in the wrong place. Cause that beat is just so different from what comes before and immediately after. It's just jolting each time.

>That was hugely disappointing, specifically because it feels
>like a wasted opportunity for two greats. But you nailed it,
>the track sticks out like a sore thumb. Everything was rolling
>and grooving up to that point and that song was just a massive
>left turn out of nowhere.
>
>I figured I may like it more on subsequent listens but that
>hasn't happened.
>
>Maybe it'll stand up better on its own but as a part of this
>album it's not very good IMO. Mostly due to the beat.

Exactly. When I heard Andre would be a feature, I expected something much better. Not knocking anyone who likes it, but the beat doesn't work in the flow of the album IMO.

that drum programming at the end of lost somebody? Ruins the song IMO. Not sure what Tip was doing.

I was walking down the street vibing off the album. When that part happened I literally laughed out loud. It didn't make any sense. Sound like some kids were in the studio playing around with the drum machine and it got recorded with the song. I actually said something like "WTF, Tip?", lol.

Probably due to the abrupt cut off at the end.

so the question is why?

I figure it's to symbolise everything going wrong as a person is dying. The same way how when the song stops abruptly at the end half way through her singing - that symbolises Phife's life getting cut short well before it should have.

It's symbolic

I like it.

Dope album, much love to ATCQ!

>so the question is why?
>
>I figure it's to symbolise everything going wrong as a person
>is dying. The same way how when the song stops abruptly at the
>end half way through her singing - that symbolises Phife's
>life getting cut short well before it should have.
>
>It's symbolic
>
>I like it.
>
>Dope album, much love to ATCQ!

but i could see some people being bothered by it

https://youtu.be/IT51ExRCsIQ?t=1m33s

>https://youtu.be/IT51ExRCsIQ?t=1m33s


"I'm twenty-two, catch
In the prime of my life,
I don't have time to be a wife"

https://twitter.com/MeeshUniVerSoul
https://instagram.com/soul.con.fusion/

"She was on that tip about stoppin' the violence
About my people she was teachin' me..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT51ExRCsIQ&feature=youtu.be&t=2m25s

CBS this Morning podcast. It's pretty dope and revealing. I especially enjoyed the part about the Tribe mural at the Nu Cleaners.

Edit: find it on iTunes or http://podtail.com/podcast/cbs-this-morning/rapper-and-producer-q-tip-on-his-influences-m/

The way this song honors Phife, from his verse, to Q-Tip's verse about how Phife speaks to him now, just wow.

You can hear the love between them, like Phife left this earth knowing him and Q-Tip were brothers again.

Best hip-hop album of 2016, imo.

Them starting the song off rhyming together makes me want to shed tears man. And when says," Trini Gladiator" I smile every damn time.
"You better flame em in the Js that they standing in/ Ostracize their memory for not remembering". Tip shines like a muthafucka on the whole album.

This album is everything I could've wanted. Most importantly it's authentic for the group and the individuals. Smh, can't get over the quality.

Even Pitchfork is properly showing love
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22607-we-got-it-from-here-thank-you-4-your-service/

>Most importantly
>it's authentic for the group and the individuals.

This is what I've been saying to everyone about this album. After 18 years, that's the hardest thing to pull off IMO. Because there's so many things pulling you in different directions. Balancing what you think the core fans want, trying not to abandon the old sound while at the same time making something that sounds updated and modern, etc. It can't be easy. But they pulled it off so naturally and flawlessly and created the perfect bookend to their legacy. It's nostalgic and modern all the same. They intertwined the two so organically. I can't say enough about it.

>You can hear the love between them, like Phife left this earth
>knowing him and Q-Tip were brothers again.

^^^ this times a million. Makes me so happy knowing that. Of all the artists we've lost that I was a fan of, Phife hurt the most. There was always just something so endearing about him that drew me to him, and obviously so many others. He just seemed so genuine and authentic at all times. So to know that he passed on good terms with Tip, a relationship that obviously caused him a lot of pain over the years, puts me at ease.

:(

the production is on point on each songs.

as much as I love common's electric circus, was he trying
to go for this production for the album?

>as much as I love common's electric circus, was he trying
>to go for this production for the album?

I love both. But this album isn't nearly as experimental and risky as EC was, for better or worse.

When the album was first announced, I was skeptical because I thought the label was making a cash grab and putting out a bunch of unreleased tracks and labeling as a fully fleshed-out album from Tribe.

After a while I figured Tip wouldn't put out something that half-stepped because he cares too much about his legacy and about Tribe's track record. When 15 and some other folks who heard the record left some positive comments around the net, I was fully on board.

I'm so glad I was wrong about this project. It took about 5 or 7 listens to really adapt to the change in sound from their last album, but this is dope.

Another poster above said the best thing about the sound in that the album is still Tribe, but modern. It shows that the band has grown in their musical tastes and also in their social conscious since most of the record has some form of social insight within the lyrics. 15 mentioned how The Roots actively sought to be more socially aware and serious with their music and that's what Tribe has done here. There are still some jams on the record, but this sounds less like something that would be on at a block party and more like an album that would be played in a car with two people who have more a more sophisticated view of the world than when they were in the twenties.

My sister was amazed at how cohesive it is and the level of detailing in this album. And for them just recording over the past year or so after being apart, this is a really good album. I'd put it a bit behind Beats, Rhymes, and Life, but I really like BR&L so that's not a knock on Thank You 4 Your Service.

I copped.

just to show love. Got 2 other buddies to buy it at that price. Gotta make sure the support is shown.

Sounds like the album is selling pretty well, but I must admit I'm confused as to how exactly streams and such are measured in that regard.

Not seeing it

Full price now

Just buy the CD and Amazon gives you the MP3s.
Unless this one is excluded somehow?? I'm not seeing the normal Autorip: Includes FREE MP3 version of this album.

once you get the CD you can rip it yourself :) For $6.99 you'll be legal.

https://www.amazon.com/got-Here-Thank-Your-service/dp/B01LTHY42W/r

I wonder why the preorder from Tribe's website isn't shipping until the 29th when the CD is in stores today

Haven't bought music there in years, but I was next door to one this afternoon so I went for it.

I'm still tripping off the fact that this album even exists.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

Late pass me, lol. First 4 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzFg70It4Pc

http://djbooth.net/news/entry/2016-11-16-tribe-we-got-it-from-here-album-debut-1

"It didn't take long for the world to celebrate the release of A Tribe Called Quest's semi-posthumous reunion album, We got it from Here… Thank You 4 Your service. Just a couple days after the album's release, the group's entire discography was charting on Billboard, and today it looks like they're in for even more good news—their first number one album since 1998's A Love Movement.

Billboard is forecasting that when the new charts are revealed this Sunday, Tribe will be sitting on top, projecting that the album will accumulate approximately 120,000 equivalent album units (a mixture of sales and streams). The larger point is that, at least for one week, we should rejoice in the mathematical proof that the world really does want a powerful new album from a classic group, something we also saw with De La Soul's success. "

and his campaign

I bought the CD so I'm in there. Good for Tribe - not pointing a finger at them.

But 120,000 of the "mixture" seems so small for music.

Do kids listen to music anymore???

If so is the 120,000 number so low strictly because of pirating??

I would guess people are still listening, albeit once or twice on a subscription music service.

Disc 2 is beastly and that just highlights that one weakness.

How is the mastering / mixing vs the streaming / iTunes version?

I like the album, but the mixing really takes me out of jamming to the music.

I'll probably buy the CD just to get a high quality version of the music and support the group, but if the mixing quality is better I'll make the buy sooner than later.

The 24bit version from hdtracks.com is the best, there's a significant difference between the regular CD FLAC vs the 24 bit (800 vs 1600 kb/sec).

I don't know if you listen to lossless but if you think the streamed (192 kb / 320kb) is bad then you'll probably enjoy the lossless version more or the 24bit if you want to spend the money on a digital release.

I had the same reaction to The Renassiance and that is "there's not a fucking thing out of place on this record."

Tribe understands 'vibe' more than any other artist in hip-hop.

I'm surprised to see a few complaints above.

De La, Common, and now Tribe.

Unbelievable work from our legends.

"Maybe VH1 has a show that you can waste your time with"

At first I was like "yes! I hate those fucking shows"

Then I was like "wait, does Tip know his boy was in one of those shows?"

I'm sure he's in the know on that one.

>I'm sure he's in the know on that one.

I wonder if Consequence is like "yeah that shit is wack"

even though you could make the argument that it did something for his career, as far as visibility goes.

>Then I was like "wait, does Tip know his boy was in one of
>those shows?"

Thx

Thankfully, they didn't do the cheap digipak with no booklet thing.


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That's what it cost at Best Buy. Couldn't believe how sad the CD section looked there, first time buying a CD there in years. All the album lyrics are in the notes.

but both sound amazingly plush. i can't wait to buy this album and hear it in full. hopefully in another week or so i'll be able to cop on itunes.

Not one track gets me hyped...gives me that 'screw face', hard neck snap, big bop while walking down the street, super charged up while driving in traffic. It is definitely a chill vibe type of album and it's cool.

This album reminds me that as the artists I consider 'classic' get older, their sound evolve and won't hit as hard as when they were newer on the scene needing something to prove. I am feeling Q-tip's 'The Renaissance' more than this Tribe album....and it is not necessarily a bad thing....it just is what it is.

De La/Common's newer album is also in the chill vibe category. Not one track is going to have me jumpin' in the air, wavin' my hands, losing my shit. Just minimal funk groove and witty word play. And that's........cool. I guess as men in their 40's, they can't be continuously doing that hype shit. Even though when Busta jumps on a track, that dude brings the energy, and the contrast is especially glaring on this new Tribe album.

Tribe's album will get play as background music to reading or chores around the house. I was hoping the collaborations could've had a more profound effect the same way Brand Nubian, or L.O.N.S. did back in the day...because there are some A+ guests on here. Everyone just did okay....maybe I need a few more spins and should just let the album grow some more.

>Not one track gets me hyped...gives me that 'screw face',
>hard neck snap, big bop while walking down the street, super
>charged up while driving in traffic.
>
>This album reminds me that as the artists I consider 'classic'
>get older, their sound evolve and won't hit as hard as when
>they were newer on the scene needing something to prove.

I have a hard time coming to terms with it...but yes. I'm a fan of 90's boom bap and when my favorite artists come with those 'quiet storm' instrumentals, it reminds me of getting older and needing to switch up.

But tracks in the vein of Kendrick's "Alright","King Kunta", J. Cole's "Firing Squad" (...where even Wacka Flocka snaps off on), or Drake's "One Dance" is all I ask for. Tracks that get you bouncing or moving.....this Tribe album doesn't do it. Outside of the first track, I can't see this album being performed live where the crowd gets going. They would have to refer to the older stuff in the catalogue. The production is still top notch and has cool groovy vibes....but even though I am older, I still would like to throw my hands up to a new song that is not in their 'classics' catalogue.

.

Well, not exactly. Almost. It is cool. Definitely adds a bop to my step and Cons and Busta bring it. I feel it is almost there, but should be more. The way Busta comes, it doesn't match the track. The rambunctious energy over something chill. I think this might be the main problem for me. Mobius is still dope though.

When the beat switch during Consequence's verse and you here the bass line groove, you feel/know the dungeon dragon is about to rip shit and of course, Busta does in usual fashion.

Nothing wrong with it not being your cup of tea, but Tribe basically gave us the Hip Hop version of Sly Stone's There's A Riot Goin' On with this album.

the way they all go back and forth and rap certain parts in harmony...DAMN, it almost makes me cry that Phife is not here to see how his fans are reacting to this album.

I'm at the point where I'm kind of trying to see if I can get bored of it haha. Playing it on loop at work, on the ride to/from work, at home.

It's not happening.

The only thing that's happening is what I consider my favorite songs may change from day to day, but I'm not skipping anything. Not even close to skipping anything.

__
I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

Beats, Rhymes & Phife aired last night and the CRWN joint is on Tidal. I don't have either one and was curious how both turned out....anybody got a link?


*CROCKER*

word booty.

HSUBAKCITS




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I have tidal and I watched the CRWN interview....

it was less of an interview and more of a "remember the time when" session...

some the the highlights is Tip is great at impressions...

Busta is an actual member of Tribe Called Quest Now....

They planning more music from Tribe and a tour.

Busta shouts out Dinco from Leaders but still has beef with Charlie and basically called him a selfish bastard....

Ali was not there.... Busta, jarobi, Cons, and Tip were there...


oh originally they were just doing an EP but decided to do a full album.

new Tribe music?

Can this be seen as a whole somewhere? This Revolt site has the trailer only

Songs that I'll play like 10 times in a row at a time, and they'll be in my head all day. Right now it's Movin Backwards, and that just started yesterday.

Dis Generation, Black Spasmodic, Mobius, Enough, Melatonin, and Lost Somebody have all gotten the same treatment at other times. And I'm sure there's more favorites to come.

I'm so happy with everything about this album. Getting quality Jodeci, D'Angelo, and Tribe albums in the last year and a half or so....never thought any of that would happen.

ole girl singing at the end just puts me in a trance.

.

You can preorder it at a few places, including this site.

been a little broke recently, so this is a great day to be able to cop this digitally and listen to it. i still think Common's album is the best lyrically, but this is the best overall album i've heard all year. what a beautiful album. truly amazing. can't wait for the vinyl. i'm copping twice as soon as that drops. everyone really put their heart into this. everyone. this NEEDS to go at least gold just on the strength of how great it is. i see now what some people say about "Kids." it doesn't fit the album as far as the flow goes. i still like it, but it does kinda kill the flow of the album.

some post here in the Lesson asked if we're running out of samples. there's no such thing. even OLD 'overused' samples can be used if they're worked right.

and Tip or whomever worked the hell out of 'Bennie and the Jets'. we all know the song but som'n about it sounds fresh on 'Solid Wall of Sound'. and having Elton appear to play some live keys and sing new lyrics helped for sure.

on my first few listens to the album this song and 'Dis Generation' stood out big time. i keep going back to them.

i'm not caught up in ranking the album in Tribe's discography (it's #3, btw) b/c i'm too busy enjoying it. it's fresh. dope. i dig it.

This one caught me as well...

I love bennie and the jets.... I have never heard anyone rhyme over the piano and crowd clap section....

the emcees all come off and their interplay is dope.

I love how Tip'S cadence on the Ego chorus is the same as Busta on Scenario. The genius of this album is how they point back and move forward at the same time.

I kept wondering why I felt I heard "Space Program" somewhere before by Tribe. I realized it reminded me so much of "The Jam" from BR&L.

Space Program is the Tribe-iest song on "We Got it From Here" to me!! It's classic Tribe, as my friend put it


"I'm twenty-two, catch
In the prime of my life,
I don't have time to be a wife"

https://twitter.com/MeeshUniVerSoul
https://instagram.com/soul.con.fusion/

"She was on that tip about stoppin' the violence
About my people she was teachin' me..."

And "Jam" is one of my all time favorite Tribe songs.

Good pick up. They're definitely similarly paced.

reminds you of the (this is gonna look terrible typed, lol) ba dote, dot. ba dote, dote. ba doooooo, doooooo, doooooo, dote...from The Jam.

Those keys throughout make it very Tribe like.

.

Streams?

If all the Tribes CD's sold at an average price of $7 then they've only made $420,000 off the physical sales.

If streams pay $0.0084 a play then they'd they get like $8400 from a million plays.

Maybe artists need to release albums as Netflix originals?

Tour. Label advances. Licensing. Merch.

of course, my sig is one of mine, but also...

...so Swaggy coulda broke up with IG, I aint' surprised that they broke up on IG (Cons really came nice on this album)

...I got the half moon clip that's banana, a good planner...a new anger like a larger Bruce Banner.

The old lady saw us on the lawn with the Henny...turn the pool party into the one from McKinney

they wanna see my downfall, turn a good day into a downpour

>of course, my sig is one of mine, but also...
>
>...so Swaggy coulda broke up with IG, I aint' surprised that
>they broke up on IG (Cons really came nice on this album)
>
>...I got the half moon clip that's banana, a good planner...a
>new anger like a larger Bruce Banner.
>
>The old lady saw us on the lawn with the Henny...turn the pool
>party into the one from McKinney
>
>they wanna see my downfall, turn a good day into a downpour
>

And good lord @ Black...Spasmodic. Entire song. Tip's verse is my favorite verse on the whole album. That and Busta on Mobius.

- How dare you touch mic with flows uncertain?

- Especially when they see you in the lobby at the label and they don't seem able to outstretch they hands and admit they fans...

Phife 'talking to Tip' for the whole verse...so glorious.

.

All the vocal samples referencing Donald Trump were removed from "The Donald" on Spotify and iTunes.

Score one for physical media.

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an actual disc. I haven't even cracked the shrink wrap. May buy a few more copies for keepsakes.

I just noticed it a couple days ago while listening via Spotify at work.

Either way, fuck Donald Trump, just because.



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>Either way, fuck Donald Trump, just because.


yes.. but i wonder why it was even there in the first place? doesn't seem to have anything to do with the song..

but another thing to consider is that Tip and them said they were working on this album until 2 or 3 days before it was released. it's possible that after the song was made, as Prezident Cheeto's campaign was picking up more and more steam, Tip decide to add a layer to the song, an oblique critique or subliminal message, that turns their loving celebration of their deceased brother into a larger statement about love over hate.

but another thing to consider is that Tip and them said they were working on this album until 2 or 3 days before it was released. it's possible that after the song was made, as Prezident Cheeto's campaign was picking up more and more steam, Tip decide to add a layer to the song, an oblique critique or subliminal message, that turns their loving celebration of their deceased brother into a larger statement about love over hate.

I have the physical CD and it says "donald"
werd.

>

This is my favorite album in a loooong time. It sounds self-aware in the right way. IE: Tribe has a great feel for why people like them. And they were clearly at work on an album full of those types of songs.

I don't care which songs were meant for Tip's album. It all works on me. I'm likely guilty of being a 'QTip can do no wrong on the music' type, but eff it. THIS IS GOOD. And it doesn't sound good 'for some older guys making an album'. It sounds good cuz it is good.

I don't have any snazzy way to talk about it. I LOVE this album.

And once again, Paak shows up on something and SHINES cuz he's a grand artist. I hope the general public doesn't fail him. He deserves attention and love. It seems like at least the black folk award shows are pushing him.

"How I 'posed to know how home feels. I ain't even on my home field."

>And it
>doesn't sound good 'for some older guys making an album'. It
>sounds good cuz it is good.

Yes yes yes yes yes. Exactly.


>And once again, Paak shows up on something and SHINES cuz he's
>a grand artist. I hope the general public doesn't fail him. He
>deserves attention and love. It seems like at least the black
>folk award shows are pushing him.

YES.

and the one I mentioned..."they wanna see my downfall, turn a good day into a downpour". I been walking around saying that in my head for the last week or so.

Email I received:

Thank you for your purchase from A Tribe Called Quest's Official Store. Unfortunately, overwhelming demand has caused production delays. As a result, your items will begin shipping next week instead of this week as expected.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely yours,
A Tribe Called Quest Official Store

We'll just have to wait...

>Email I received:
>
>Unfortunately, overwhelming demand has caused
>production delays.

It's not Tribe's fault and all, at least I'm assuming as much, and complaining about things won't help, but I don't understand what that sentence means. The emotional mind-state for fans wanting the vinyl cause it get delayed somehow?

so they delayed the shipment so that they could produce more vinyl and ship them all at the same time.

Just a heads up to people who either bought it (and didn't see the email) or were planning on buying it.

I was explaining my mindset when I initially saw that e-mail myself and was confused with that specific sentence. You provided a service since I have to imagine that delay will hit retailers worse since folks that bought the album directly from the fan site should in theory get it first.

**edit**

I wonder what kind of delay there will be for online and brick and mortar stores getting it in stock.

But they now have moved up into probably a top 5 position definitely. I think I'd put only Run-DMC and the Furious 5 ahead of them at this point.

No link, but he said quitting wasn't Phife's M.O.

Living high ain't hard to do
She'll be in a cloud somewhere...

Man, this album just won't stop. It's the jawn that just keeps on giving.

Two masters going to WORK so effortlessly. I bet all those folk who said this song was bad think Tribe is the greatest group of the two as well. When we all know who that is.

Y'all trippin (c) Russell Westbrook

stops the flow of the album.

>stops the flow of the album.

To me it enhances the flow the album. Coming after what's arguably the best song on the album. It kind of lightens the vibe with a up tempo, playful song. The beat smooths out the great harshness in the sound of "Dis Generation." And the beat is jammin' and the wordplay, masterful.

>I bet all those
>folk who said this song was bad think Tribe is the greatest
>group of the two as well.

>>I bet all those
>>folk who said this song was bad think Tribe is the greatest
>>group of the two as well.
>

Okay, you may be right. But Tribe had had a cult following. Still does.

.

but I guess there's only a few of us who digs this track!!! oh well.

.

>Two masters going to WORK so effortlessly. I bet all those
>folk who said this song was bad think Tribe is the greatest
>group of the two as well. When we all know who that is.

like, what are we even doing here

for the record I like Kids

sad I can only find official video for Dis Generation, also did We the People and started Mobious before credits stopped right before Busta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DOOu3wPQfE



but did find fan video of Mobious and Award tour:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVG6m_FIYSU

and even though "Kids" doesn't flow right where its' placed on the album, and even though Kweli's verse is meh, i still don't skip them. and still haven't even BEGUN to tire of this album.

but Cons and Jorobi bring it back...plus the chorus is dope.

i deal with Kweli's verse because it's short, does honestly have a great last line, and leads to 'Ye's chorus.

because Phife wouldn't have wanted them to quit. I can go for more Tribe albums.

rolling and get away from backlash. There were and still are a good amount of people who are on the "Tip is evil and only out for money" online who can't wait to hate on the remaining members. A name change might make sense, and maybe head off the inevitable "but it ain't ATCQ without Phife" critique that would smother any future release under the original name. But I guess that's speculation for another day.

Album is still dope and if 2016 was good for anything it was the triumphant return of the Tribe! Tip's flow on Whateva Will Be is life giving.

I wouldn't hate on the new Tribe crew, but would prefer a name change without Phife in the mix...just my two...

has the tribe vibe but still sounds fresh. favorite songs change, and the album is still enjoyable after many repeat listens. I hope they keep recording as Tribe with Busta.

>

More than I expected, and still gives off that OG Tribe goodness I grew up on.

I support them - and I purchased the CD - but this one only has a few tracks that might make a ATCQ playlist in iTunes - but I don't see myself going back to it as much as anything pre Beats Rhyme and Life.

Now take some tracks from this and put it on Q-Tips Renaissance (and remove some of the tracks there) and then that would be a near classic album.

Any why do they rhyme things with Henny so much?

That will be my new rap name: Henny YoungMan.

Edit: Still the best rap album of the year for me - but the highs are getting lower in rap for me.

>Now take some tracks from this and put it on Q-Tips
>Renaissance (and remove some of the tracks there) and then
>that would be a near classic album.

I love both, but just curious which you'd pick from WGIFH and which you would cut from The Renaissance

Can you think of many artists whose classic work undeniably stands in the same circle as the music that followed 20+ years later, though?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that this is the best Tribe album, but it's way better than I think anyone predicted it could have been and it's something of an anomaly for any artist (particularly in hip hop) in terms of longevity.

>Can you think of many artists whose classic work undeniably
>stands in the same circle as the music that followed 20+ years
>later, though?
I can, but it's few and far between.

D'Angelo had 15 years between Voodoo and Black Messiah.
Steely Dan - 20 years between Gaucho and Two Against Nature.
Devo - 20 years between Smooth Noodle Maps and Something for Everybody.

I think Devo's arc is more what I wanted from Tribe and from De La Soul. (I know people here generally don't *love* Devo.) Devo had a string of disappointing albums starting in 1984 and going until 1990. Then they pretty much called it quits - with some soundtrack work and scattered live shows in between.

Then in 2010 they did the unthinkable - they released an album that is as good as anything they've ever done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUqcgabS86A

It kept the essence of Devo intact - it's darkly humorous AND overly earnest. Its cynical even about its own message of hope, but hopeful despite its cynical-ness. It's still the Devo people remember from the 80's (even if 80's Devo is different than the "best" 70's Devo.) It's the album that could have followed Oh No! It's Devo. And yes, it has a few clunkers on it - but definitely the kind of clunkers most of their albums have. it was like they took a HARD look at their career and decided what their "true path" was vs. what they actually did.

Same with Steely Dan - Two Against Nature, while not as good as Gaucho definitely continues exactly where it left off.

I think the issue with the Tribe album, for me, is that it does continue where Q-Tip's Renaissance left off - and that's not where the Tribe *I* wanted to hear was. Matter of a fact, in my mind, I wanted Tribe to pick up Midnight Marauders and not BR&L or TLM. (See Devo above.)

And De La Soul seemed to not only get older and more mature - they seemed to have lost their sense of fun and silliness along the way. That's the direction they'd been going in since Stakes is High - but I wanted them to be having more fun.

I'm looking for more humor and self-awareness from Tribe and De La Soul - and these albums are largely missing it.

Again, this is still my favorite 2016 rap album (but then again I still haven't heard Common's new record.)

These are just opinions - Tribe won - they got a #1 record - AND they got money from my pocket :)



(Other people have mentioned PortisHead, Dinosaur Jr., Pixies, Kate Bush, and to a lesser extent The Cars and Bowie.)

Chuck D quote that I couldn't quite make a point with, but resonates still: "'Gangsta rappers' sound is laid-back because their lives are hectic. I like hectic music because my life is laid back."

>I'm looking for more humor and self-awareness from Tribe and
>De La Soul - and these albums are largely missing it.
>

You're not gonna get humor from most Black men approaching 50 during these times in America.

>>I'm looking for more humor and self-awareness from Tribe
>and
>>De La Soul - and these albums are largely missing it.
>>
>
>You're not gonna get humor from most Black men approaching 50
>during these times in America.

Like 1988 was "Happy Days?" It may be that they've gotten older and less fun on record.

But what happened to things like Parappa The Rapper song? or Funky Towel?

In 2012 we go First Serve - which I think is a fun album and genuinely made me laugh - especially the Barry Manilow interpolation.

De la and Tribe were had a light-ness to many of their songs - while not being lightweight - and I don't quite hear as much as that as *I * would like.

I couldn't have asked for a better album from Tribe. Sonically and lyrically wonderful. I've listened to this album at least 40 times all the way through while at work or home, and haven't gotten tired of it yet.

Unless I'm forgetting something.

I haven't listened all the way through enough times though.....because I keep getting stuck on certain songs and hitting rewind over and over to replay them.

i can think of at least 7-8 great rap albums, but only Tribe and Common MOVED me in an emotional way. De La, Kendrick, and Schoolboy all released albums i thought were great/near classic, but they didn't move me emotionally like those two.

Listened to that Elzhi album last week for the first time, FIRE.

Then finally tried the Comm afterwards because people here and elsewhere that I trust were swearing by it.

Felt like I was listening to more of Comm's Selma/PeaceLoveAndGap breathy/earnest/Hollywood/'message' rap, with Jill Scott hooks.

I couldn't get thru three songs, then again I've been pretty much done with Comm since Finding Forever and him being TI's daddy in American Gangster.

Can't take his music remotely to heart these days.

I'd rather hear the young rappers energy, old dudes that are still spitting hard like Elzhi/Run The Jewelz, even The Lox, or a collective that are making a full body of work like this Tribe album.

The De La Soul I wanted to love, it was cool, alright in parts, 'Pain' was one of my favorite joints for the late summer, overall too long, I kinda feel handle on their lack of fun (can't go there on the Tribe record at all, fun/joy all thru it) and De La still haven't made a great album without Prince Paul for my money.

I'm old enough to cop 3 Feet when it dropped on cassette though, folks a few years younger on OKP that came in on Stakes or even The Grind Date tend to feel differently because that's the De La they first encountered or they like the 'true school' sound of that or a Roots album like Game Theory more than I do.

The Tribe is an instant classic though.

Best record of the year in any genre to me: http://www.somethinginthewudder.com/home/2016/12/1/streaming-consciously-the-sixteen-sweetest-albums-of-20sickdream

Rap music is in a great place with the balance of everybody right now, far better than 10 or even 15 years ago to me.

Rock is dead as a door nail though.

My bad on all the digressions, I just don't get around here as much anymore so was just piggybacking your post and tossing a bunch of thoughts out.

Happy New Year.

peace.

and other "rapper/actor/activists"
in this post...
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13085349&mesg_id=13085349&listing_type=search

People literally in there proving
you wrong, but you making it clear
that you're not concerned with facts.

Something interesting about mouthy
white dudes like you and Anonymous
(and Anthony Fantano), trying to
determine what's "real" Hip Hop...
yall really like the mystique around
Black rappers. They have to be "aggressive"
(you just said it) or feared... just
like the guy singing about not being
"afraid of Ice Cube anymore."
Chill with all that trying to keep Black
men in your boxes.
Shout out to Denny, Brew, and Justin,
because at least they don't be on that
silly shit.
Then you pull the whole "I was old enough
to buy _____ album" to try and validate
yourself LOL. Yeah so were most of us,
and we still appreciate the guy.
Yeah he played TI's dad in a movie.
Wtf does that have to do with anything?
You stay getting lost in your own words,
just loving to read your own typing.
MashComp's compliments done went to
your head.

you can also keep that little attempt to crowbar me into some argument you're having with others or injecting other useless names into the convo and assigning their words to me.

Common hasn't made good music in awhile.

Most Common fans, of which I consider myself to be despite that, wouldn't vehemently disagree, until a few who I know cited this album as a return to form.

I don't hate the dude, just said I haven't cared much for his music since Finding Forever.

A rapper falling off doesn't invalidate his past work for me.

>and other "rapper/actor/activists"
>in this post...
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13085349&mesg_id=13085349&listing_type=search
>
>People literally in there proving
>you wrong, but you making it clear
>that you're not concerned with facts.
>

Do you know what literally means?


>Something interesting about mouthy
>white dudes like you and Anonymous
>(and Anthony Fantano), trying to
>determine what's "real" Hip Hop...

I don't know who that is or what you're talking about, I do know you won't find evidence of me discussing or declaring anything about what's "real" hip-hop.

And I have no idea who Anthony Fantano is.

Meanwhile the last time I saw the OKP you mentioned, he was trying to check me for saying E-40 could rap, which should be obvious to anybody even if you don't like his music.

So basically in my recent experience, both you and him are two different sides of the coin to me, coming in guns blazing, talking personal about people you don't know, over a musical opinion you don't share.

*Milk Dee voice*

"I Don't Care."

>yall really like the mystique around
>Black rappers.

that right?

Says the guy who cites Tupac as a prime example of activism?

K.

>They have to be "aggressive"
>(you just said it)
no, I didn't say that.

I said that when it comes to vet rappers, I want dudes that are still "spitting hard" as in "rapping their ass off".


I then cited Elzhi, Run The Jewels and The Lox as mostly because they've all put out projects in the last couple months that I've enjoyed.

To me Common hasn't been rapping at that level in awhile, nor does he possess the intangibles some of the younger cats with different energy and skillsets possess, while he also hasn't been part of a group that's made a masterpiece recently like Tribe Called Quest.

>or feared...
huh? I fear Tribe Called Quest, KDot and Anderson Paak?

just
>like the guy singing about not being
>"afraid of Ice Cube anymore."

no idea what guy you're referring to, nor do I care to hear any more from whoever authored such a quote.

>Chill with all that trying to keep Black
>men in your boxes.

again, sounds like you're arguing with someone else, while using it to debate some murky point you think you're making with me.

>Shout out to Denny, Brew, and Justin,
>because at least they don't be on that
>silly shit.
>Then you pull the whole "I was old enough
>to buy _____ album" to try and validate
>yourself LOL.

huh

how does stating I'm old enough to remember when 3 Feet came out an attempt to "validate myself"?

All that means is that I'm 40, heading towards 41 and hopefully beyond.


>Yeah so were most of us,
>and we still appreciate the guy.

I was talking about the generational gap between my age group and millennials on down with De La fans that I've noticed here.

Same with the "Game Theory is the best Roots album" crowd.

And I don't begrudge any of them their opinion, just saying I know which age/introductory-point demo they would tend to skew if I was a betting man.

That wasn't even about Common.


Just a completely unscientific trend that I've noticed here over the past 18 years.

You can accept or reject it, check for or forget it.

>Yeah he played TI's dad in a movie.
>Wtf does that have to do with anything?

It was funny when I first saw it.

And it still is when I watch it now.

>You stay getting lost in your own words,
>just loving to read your own typing.
>MashComp's compliments done went to
>your head.
>
No idea what compliments you're referring to, Mash is a good dude though.

I don't even post here anymore to waste time trying to dissect whatever weird shit you're on here.

Half that album is filler and there's only 10 songs on it. How did they manage that?

.

>Shout out to Denny, Brew, and Justin,
>because at least they don't be on that
>silly shit.

Funny you decided to bring me up in response to Bomb not liking Common when I've been on here praising that album as potentially being my favorite album this year.

Proves you are talking just to talk without checking your facts.

Looks like Spicer will be getting fired soon...maybe you can apply for his position...you seem pretty qualified.

>and De La still haven't made a great album without
>Prince Paul for my money.

Blows me away that anyone could feel this way.


>I'm old enough to cop 3 Feet when it dropped on cassette
>though, folks a few years younger on OKP that came in on
>Stakes or even The Grind Date tend to feel differently because
>that's the De La they first encountered or they like the 'true
>school' sound of that or a Roots album like Game Theory more
>than I do.

But I guess this kind of explains the thought process/different perspective you're coming from. Still had to express my shock but I can at least understand that you and I are coming from different perspectives. Though, I got into De La around when Buhloone Mindstate was released ...

they haven't made any actual bad albums, the ones after Paul just aren't at the level of the first three to me.

Part of the reason is probably due to the post-Biz-Gilbert-O-Sullivan case, those kind of sonic collage, sample-driven albums (particularly the first two) were no longer financially or legally feasible to make.

Another part is probably Industry Rule #4080.

But another legitimate is losing a Hall of Fame producer who it is now obvious was fairly instrumental (no pun) in injecting a good deal of the levity and humor into the mix, which was a big part of their early work.

It's not like they've made any duds like later-era PE, Run-DMC or Wu-Tang.

I'd also say Tribe hasn't made a great album since '93 either until this new album.

But that's not really the same thing because they haven't been actively recording as a group during that span.

Probably mentioned it in the album thread, but I'm really not feeling the musical end of things. It's just too... I dunno... soft.

At least I like Common as an MC again. He's not my issue with it.

Even the one with Ghetto Dreams w/ Nas(which was dope) that was supposed to be great, didn't do much for me. I don't know, maybe it's me. I'll check it out eventually though.

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take away Love Star, and it's on par with any album Common has ever released.

riggins' beats are good. common just doesn't do it for me on them.

especially Here in After and Exodus

and sure - it might be less whimsical than previous versions, but they came out the box as per usual and the more I listen to that album the more I love it.


werd.

http://www.largeup.com/2017/01/09/interview-engineer-david-kennedy/

http://drinkchamps.com/index.php/episodes/episode-55-w-a-tribe-called-quest-drinkchamps/

about to check this out...


*CROCKER*

word booty.

HSUBAKCITS




http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r9/chowyunskinny/Gold%20Chef/iron_chef.jpg

that needed to be as long as the Naughty By Nature one.

I can say that, without a doubt, my favorite song is Conrad,Tokyo. Damn near every song on here is a banger, but CT really set itself apart for me. The tone of Phife's verse is just...wow. I wanted to wait and make sure I wasn't being a prisoner of the moment, too. As soon as Movin Backwards is about to end, I get excited because I know CT is about to come on.

And even if he weren't dead, he still would've been. His verses are short and poignant, and it works astoundingly.