According to Cube, inspired by the straight outta Compton movie

https://www.yahoo.com/music/news/ice-cube-says-dr-dres-straight-outta-compton-150845316.html

i forgot about those albums.

how quaint.

They state that the announcement of the release will be Saturday, not the release itself.....

http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/07/dr-dre-is-releasing-a-new-album-next-week/

that there's talk of a reunion tour for a group named N*ggaz With Attitudes, and the rumor is that Eminem will be replacing Eazy-E?!?!? I mean....what?! It's hilarious on its face but this dude will spend like 85% of the time censoring the lyrics! Why wouldn't it be Snoop or Kendrick?!

eminem in nwa BULLSHIT

all about them checks at this point. we accept ghostwriters in rap, a white dude in a group called niggaz with attitudes, etc. hip hip has been pimped out and hoed and is dead as I know it. the fact that cube and ren would even consider this shit is disappointing. snoop said he wouldn't do it out of respect for Eazy back when they attempted to do this in the early 00's because you can't replace Eazy.

pretty absurd thought.

any kind of sense in 99...and even that never happened. Whole new era, and it woulda just been a group making some modern hot songs without any message or true "attitude." At this point.............ha. MC Ren's stage presence is horrible nowadays, too.

But yes, that would have been a terrible idea.

is what a comment said, lol.

Detox has had 3,017,884,172,222,916,614,911 different release dates. Now we get "Hey! Dre's gonna release some kind of half album on August 1st, a kind of soundtrack to the NWA movie!"

"Oh wait no no. That's not what we meant. On August 1st, Dre will release the RELEASE date for the half album NWA movie soundtrack type thing......."

Ahahahahahaha. Wat bro.

I'd bet every single dollar I have plus probably take out a loan to bet more that August 1st comes and goes and we don't hear a fucking peep from this idiot.

>That's not what we meant. On August 1st, Dre will release the RELEASE date for the
>half album NWA movie soundtrack type thing......."
>

A surprise Dre album would prolly be seen as a good thing. Hype and singles would only hurt the project.

if he just released the album digitally w/o notice.

He needs no hype. The hype is built in.

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeJCyLPSVVM

colour me excited.

https://youtu.be/MED8cpQPIQw

Quick Thoughts:

So dope to see Jon Connor's aftermath stuff see some light, I was worried he'd end up like Bishop Lamont.
Seeing Ice Cube & Xzibit show up is awesome too.
Anyone know about Justus or COLD 187um?
Huge look for BJ the Chicago Kid, hope he stole a track for his album.
Candice Pillay is so random, she used to be on Bangledesh's (non-existent) label why he was the hot producer...she came up.
I wonder how many songs will make me say "Damn I miss Nate Dogg" when I hear the hook?





01. Intro f. Dr. Dre
02. Talk About It f. King Mez & Justus
03. Genocide f. Kendrick Lamar, Marsha Ambrosius & Candice Pillay
04. It’s All On Me f. Justus & BJ the Chicago Kid
05. All In a Day’s Work f. Anderson Paak & Marsha Ambrosius
06. Darkside/Gone f. King Mez, Marsha Ambrosius & Kendrick Lamar
07. Loose Cannons f. Xzibit & COLD 187um
08. Issues f. Ice Cube & Anderson Paak
09. Deep Water f. Kendrick Lamar & Justus
10. One Shot One Kill f. Snoop Dogg & Jon Connor
11. Just Another Day f. Asia Bryant & The Game
12. For the Love of Money f. Jill Scott & Jon Connor
13. Satisfiction f. Snoop Dogg, Marsha Ambrosius & King Mez
14. Animals f. Anderson Paak
15. Medicine Man f. Eminem, Candice Pillay & Anderson Paak
16. Talking To My Diary f. Dr. Dre

Hell Yeah!

Interesting to see him on this,as him and Dre had long-standing beef. He'd asserted that Dre stole his sound and beats on The Chronic. Glad they appear to have finally squashed it.

It also at least partially explains Xzibit bringing out Above the Law to perform with him at the recent Art of Rap concerts.

I never heard an album from Above The Law, but I love that record.

I'd recommend their first four releases: Living Like Hustlers, the Vocally Pimpin EP, Black Mafia Life, and Uncle Sam's Curse (that's the one with Black Superman). Their other two albums. Time Will Reveal and Legends, are really good too.

How does someone produce a record for you and then steal your sound

And regardless, the beats that he said Dre stole were on their second album "Black Mafia Life."

>And regardless, the beats that he said Dre stole were on
>their second album "Black Mafia Life."

I also believe at the time.. sometime around 93 or 94 that the entire G-Funk sound Dre was getting all the credit for creating for was actually created by him and ATL.

I'm kinda trolling but it's kinda true

So funky, all you can do is grit your teeth and knod your head.

if he's putting out I'm thinking its a good product but we shall see.

I think they pulled all his tapes from the web but what I heard of him had me puzzled as to why Dre was working with him.

When I think "white rapper from Texas" I think of Paul Wall (baby!), and I don't like that at all lol

Maybe he sounded slightly Drakeish but I could be wrong.

the suburbs of Dallas. Dallas has a completely different sound from the
rest of Texas hip-hop wise. Way more boom bap, alternative, or hipster
rap leanings there than the rest of Texas. It's a whatever they feel
like type sound a lot of times, which I think is dope. Can't cosign
this guy tho. Haven't heard enough. Just giving background of the scene
there.

King Mez is from NC and used to be with 9th and Jamla.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACniuN0QHrg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2fZ0SW_LSg

Paak is a singer from the west.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF5RdUzQxjI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuuW6vF2QZQ

I don't know which type of Paak is gonna be on this record tho, both of those songs are SO different lol

Anderson Paak. He was going by the name of Breezy back then. AMAZing drummer as well. He could have easily made it as a touring musician. I'm fuck'n amazed to see him working w Dre now, on 4 songs no less. Last I heard from him he shared a track w Jonwayne, which was dope. Here's a lank: https://soundcloud.com/jonwayne/green-light-ft-anderson-paak

he got linked up w/ Dre
through Rapper Big Pooh's work w/ Dre?

Speaking of Rapper, he couldn't get a look on here?

don't know if any made the album though...

>I don't know which type of Paak is gonna be on this record
>tho, both of those songs are SO different lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBrtLJNvP4A

Don't remember hearing anything that made him really stand out.

No Quik?
Eiht?
King Tee?
And when you think of Compton nowadays you have to include YG

Would've been cool if this soundtrack was a mix of Compton past and present

YG would've been a good fit though

That kinda blows

kind of like how hbo now was itunes-only for 6 months or how call of duty dlc is only on xbox for a month or so

but Dre's business relationship with Apple might mean even longer/indefinite.

i feel like limiting the opportunities for ppl to buy the music just gives them an excuse to 'pirate' the music more often than it results in them signing up w/the exclusive retailer just to buy the music.

like right now there's a Prince song exclusively on Spotify. i wanted to hear it but didn't want to sign up for Spotify. so i looked elsewhere. *further comment w/held*

-lots of no names
-the protege' is heavily fetured (kendrick)
-old friends coming back for an appearance (snoop, cube, eminem, game)
-the surprise guest (Big hutch!!!!)
-ZERO features from popular artists of today (HELL YEAH)
-the lone solo track at the end

i'm optimistic. i wonder who helped with the beats tho. so far i only know of cardo & dj dahi

Saw cardiak and focus On twitter talking about it as well

- for starters, how could anyone be anything but excited about this? It came out of nowhere, we've heard nothing from it, and most of us haven't even heard of half the artists featured here save for the usual Dre collaborators. Will it let me down? Maybe (probably.) But the fact he's comfortable enough to put his name on the project and release it properly is really encouraging.

- "inspired by the movie" is a frail excuse to make an album but who cares? The last guy to use this same excuse was Jay-Z; he would release what remains his most inspired work post Black Album and revitalize his career.

- this is a power move for Apple Music. This is undeniably the biggest rap release since Watch the Throne, and maybe the biggest non Taylor Swift release since, I don't know, Eminem Show. If you're Apple and make a deal with artists like Drake,Trent Reznor, or Dr.Dre, THIS is exactly the kind of dream scenario you're deep down hoping for. Basically anyone who's paid attention to popular music in the last 20 years is going to want to hear this...and if the album is actually good this could alter the landscape.

The album will more than likely come and go in between his other business ventures. That's it. This is where things have been headed for a long time, at least the past decade or so.
I have no interest in hearing this record but the fact it's in the can after a few weeks is a pretty telling sign.

Clown behavior

Because everything boils down to "being mad" or "hating" with people like you. It's entirely possible to just not be interested in anything, it doesn't require disdain, but I wouldn't expect you and your ilk to understand anything beyond outrageous hyperbole.

but this new project actually has me excited. The prehype around the movie and seeing NWA back working together and now a Dre project inspred by Compton is a total throwback to my late teenage years. This has me reliving my youth...

...it's amazing.

if you think about it he didn't have to drop this album. He's one of the richest artists in the world and the apple deal skyrocketed that fact. So if he's confident enough to release an album, i'm sure it will be at least pretty damn good.

After all his last album was chronic 2001 and we live in a post TPAB world now...i'm sure dre wouldn't release a mediocre product and ruin his legacy after that

and who gives a fuck if they from Compton. Can't wait to hear these artists under Dre's tutelage.

King Mez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9VrLimm0zg&spfreload=10

Bj the Chicago Kid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0CG7NEzsTQ&spfreload=10

Anderson Paak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuuW6vF2QZQ&spfreload=10

Candace Pillay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg5OUf_znpQ&spfreload=10

Asia Bryant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKZUQAKTFiE&spfreload=10

Jon Conner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiYXMwyph_0&spfreload=10

How come Im just now hearing this cat

so he's been on 9th's label comps, Median's album, etc

What am I missing?

Did Dre "produce" all the beats?

Why would he be listed as a feature on 2 songs
off his own album??

>What am I missing?
>
>Did Dre "produce" all the beats?
>
>Why would he be listed as a feature on 2 songs
>off his own album??


Unless you're dying to hear a 50 yr. old billionaire rap about that life, I suggest you settle in and be happy he's at least putting out an album.

I honestly think he is the most over-rated persona
in rap.

I was just speaking to those saying "new Dre!"

Reads like a soundtrack that he stamped his
name on?

Dr. Dre is listed as the Artist for all songs, except "One Shot One Kill" by Jon Connor & "Just Another Day" by The Game.

Finale, Verbal Kent, Apollo Brown and now THIS in the next coupla months?! No more beatmaking til ´16 lol...

I'd also like to hear the entire version of this song from Kendrick's Beats Pill commercial...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thtPhtMcdlY

It's a Dre album

Get excited, because he makes great music

No reason to be sad or mad, and I don't want a market
analysis of the streaming industry

Just listen to the music when it drops

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

For some people, the East Coast vs West Coast shit never ended.

http://2dopeboyz.com/2015/08/03/dj-rhettmatic-confirms-dr-dre-dj-premier-anderson-paak-collaboration/

All the Dre convo's the past few years and this dude drops this bomb to a luke warm response and people hating on a fucking tracklist? I'm excited as hell...

How often do we even hear projects anymore where we haven't heard 5 songs b4 it comes out, and I salute Dre for using some young's that people aren't familiar with.

Also, I salute Dre for admitting Detox probably sucked, because the leaks sure made it seem that way, and wait, we get a fucking premier/dre track?!?! I can't wait!


@rob_starrk

i see the plan. i see whats coming. they aint slick lol.

who could take long time and still got turkeys all bent.

this cat takes longer than Michael Jackson and Sade combined and he still got turkeys clucking over what he gonna do or put out.


i expect this to have a few bangers and i like to see him go out on top.

he did the thing over and over

....at least for some of it

...he ought to. He's GOT to. I don't want to hear any "I Need A Doctor" type shit from this.

...................

Do I have to install/sign up for anything to be able to listen to the stream?

n/m

super dope for him..

over some preemo too!!

Change the title. I can't wait to hear this album

This story connects dots now too

http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/01/meet-dr-dres-latest-protege-23-year-old-white-rapper-justin-mohrle/

Im at a loss as to what Dre sees in this kid.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/station/idra.1027639986

First track is fire! Dre is rapping like Future on this track but im not mad...

GENOCIDE.

shit is riding so far tho.

It's crazy hearing his Kendrick flow.

And it's still an "evolved" Dre flow.

it works for me,

>shit is riding so far tho.

He's one of the 'I hate how my voice sounds' cats. No surprise that his voice is switched up. It's super refreshing to hear rappers rapping like it's important to them even if the topics are what they are. Somebody said it on here that too many rappers be rapping like they don't really have time to bother with rapping. And I was steady clapping to that cuz I hear it sometimes too.

The production is what I went in looking for and yep...it's there, so I'm happy off 1.5 listens. I'll wake up in the morning and ride around with it for more. All in a day's work is my shit!

Dre fucking did it.

Production has that widescreen sound.

Dre pulling these Kendrick flows sounds surprisingly good.

2-3 song stretch in the middle thats a mess but that could sound better (or worse on more listens).

Love the Primo track.

Not sure about Justus but he doesn't ruin anything.

would have thought Dre would have changed his flows from Kendrick...

Album is dope though...

And if he did... was he doing this at the same time as TPAB?!

Kendrick probably had a hand in it too...and its very impressive if he was doing this and TPAB...impressive...

Unlistenable.

The one thing Dre used to have going for him as a rapper was his voice/delivery.

Now he's 50 years old and rapping like a fucking alien and screaming in weird ass monster voices and shit. Fuck this.

...a few minutes ago. I'm so perplexed by what's going on vocally.

>Unlistenable.
>
>The one thing Dre used to have going for him as a rapper was
>his voice/delivery.
>
>Now he's 50 years old and rapping like a fucking alien and
>screaming in weird ass monster voices and shit. Fuck this.

Snoop doesn't even sound like himself, which is always a shame.

SMH.

Maybe I'll get used to it, but vocally this is just grating. Even a lot of the singing sounds awful.

I liked For The Love of Money a lot though.

prolly my fave track now.

thank you!

"man this is probably the dopest beat on here...."

...turns out it's a Primo joint. No wonder.

I'll give a top 5 and give it another listen or two before I give my random thoughts. In order of appearance:

1. It's All on Me
2. All in a Day's Work
3. Just Another Day
4. Animals
5. Talking to My Diary


Edit: I'll put down one thought after one listen cause it's a certainty: Anderson Paak is the fucking *truth*.

>Edit: I'll put down one thought after one listen cause it's a
>certainty: Anderson Paak is the fucking *truth*.

If you haven't, check out his stuff. Very happy for him

Animals is far and away my favorite track. The beat is flames and I love the social commentary, and Paak's voice is flawless on that beat.

vocals are a little weird, but the songwriting itself and quality of the music is obviously superb. You know about 90 seconds into a lot of these songs that they're good.

Its a 7/10 at best to me.
Kendrick makes it for me.
None of those unknown names stood out.

Paying 14 dollars for an album digital and having to play connect the dots to figure out who did what is hella annoying.

Some of these niggas old as hell and haven't changed much content-wise at all. Also too much Dre rapping. That's the one thing I didn't want. A 50 year old gangsta rapper. Kendrick did his thing. Xzibit did his thing too. Would have preferred more features from the younger emcees from Cali. Also, who used that beat at the beginning of "Issues"? It has Madlib or Oh No written all over it.

>Also, who
>used that beat at the beginning of "Issues"? It has Madlib or
>Oh No written all over it.

>Also too much Dre rapping. That's the one
>thing I didn't want. A 50 year old gangsta rapper.


i wish he only had a few verses at the most. it just feels like the tracks are stuck in mud every time he's on the mic.

...wanted to tell my fellow Lessonheads that I played guitars on the outro of "For the Love of Money." Incredible experience, and I'm just in awe to be a part of such an amazingly produced album.

how did the opportunity come about and what happened ? what was it like in the studio?

*oh yeah and congrats!!

I've been working with Connor, he and I go way way back. My parts for that song weren't done at Dre's studio, although I have been there for other sessions many a night since I moved to LA last year.

It's inspiring to hear true visionaries at work. I know this reply probably isn't ripe with details but the camp in general is pretty private and honestly it's just simple- everyone who was a part of this process is just fucking outstanding at what they do. I'm obviously biased, but man...Connor's album is going to floor people.

Good for you. Must have been an incredible, exciting, uber-informative experience.

awesome to hear man

Congrats, that's awesome.

>...wanted to tell my fellow Lessonheads that I played guitars
>on the outro of "For the Love of Money." Incredible
>experience, and I'm just in awe to be a part of such an
>amazingly produced album.


Congrats homie....That's pretty fucking big.......

that is a great accomplishment. peace

!

He could've given that man a guest verse.

That's sad yo.

Thats pretty huge, 187um has been beefing with Dre since 1992ish...

That was on point

Am I the only one not impressed by the new talent he's pushing on this album? They were cool but none of them will be stars IMO

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Surprised how modern the production is along with the flows; which is a good and bad. Not sure I like Snoop being so...non-Snoopish, lol.

On first listen its a worthy album to bear the Dre name, nothing sticks out for me the way they did immediately on 2001 however

not an "official" soundtrack

The modern sound is good and bad.

The vocals, including what you said about Snoop, are kind of perplexing. It's got a TDE feel which I am lukewarm about. I wanted more straight up rhyming rather than the old-Eminem style verses with all kinds of sound effects and voice effects interrupting the rhymes.

The beats are uber-complex and I may even go as far as to say that a lot of it is over-produced, though I always say I have historically preferred Dre's beats to be layered and complex a la The Chronic/Efil4zaggin as opposed to simplistic and clean a la 2001 and the bulk of his 00s work.

So ... that's some basic stuff. But I'll be back with way more thoughts after I get through it a third time.

One way or the other it's sorta exciting to be able to say "yo I'm listening to the new Dre album." Haven't said that since I was 15 and I was bootlegging early versions of What's the Difference, The Watcher and Fuck You and playing them for a non-alcoholic high school freshmen party I was at and gauging reactions.

definitely more than i liked 2001. though there's nothing knocking me over like 'Xxplosive' and 'The Next Episode'. still...after 2 listens i'm all about it.

I'm not even a HUGE Dre stan but I really like this

lot of nitpicky complaints above, but hey, this IS the lesson...



I love the experimental flows... I don't want the Chronic 2001 part II in 2015... I like how modern the album feels but also feels "classic dre" I'm impresssed with how he meshed those 2 worlds, and as usual the quality of Dre's music from an engineering level is at it's own level... I think it's cool he got most of the usual suspects (game, em, snoop, X, kendrick) but would've liked Kurupt and my east coast bias hit me a few times when I thought damn, I wish either jay or nas or jada were on this track or that track... But at least Premier is on here, dre/premo collab lived up to hype for sure. If this it for Dre definitely finishes 3-3 imo

I desperately want Kendrick to do an album fully produced by Dre

immaculately produced.

much more "lush" and "musical" than his previous projects.

i also saw some knocks on the vocals above. I actually really like them! all sound hungry and inspired.

and "animals"...damn. on repeat now.

this shit sounds good to my ears.....The beat flips r dope....

Kendrick on his MVP shit...Dre shocks me again...I'm gonna shut up....

Yeah, Kendrick should shut up any naysayers with this performance.

definitely no still dre, next episode or xxplosive type tracks

kendrick sounds great, as expected

or, the album formerly known as Detox...

Some of these are definitely how I expected that to sound.

Big fan of the production on a lot of it.

Looking forward to hearing the the instrumental version, to be honest...

Also, shout out to them for sampling "Spirits of Ancient Egypt" by Wings on the second half of "Darkside/Gone."

The good:
most of the beats
Kendrick
Xzibit
Anderson Paak
"One Shot, One Kill"
"Genocide"
"Deep Water"
"Animals" (Primo did his thing)
"Issues" and "Medicine Men" are decent enough

The not-so-bad (and sometimes bad):
Dre sounds awful as a rapper.
STOP FUCKING SHRIEKING AT ME!!!! The yelling derails "Loose Cannons" and almost fucks up "Deep Water."
King Mez and Justus - Stars are not born
The album isn't much fun

I mean, "The Chronic" was mostly blunted beats and lyrics sessions, but you could tell everyone was enjoying themselves. This album seems waaaay too overwrought. And yeah, after a while, everyone starts to sound like Kendrick.

>The good:
>most of the beats
>Kendrick
>Xzibit
>Anderson Paak
>"One Shot, One Kill"
>"Genocide"
>"Deep Water"
>"Animals" (Primo did his thing)
>"Issues" and "Medicine Men" are decent enough
>
>The not-so-bad (and sometimes bad):
>Dre sounds awful as a rapper.
>STOP FUCKING SHRIEKING AT ME!!!! The yelling derails "Loose
>Cannons" and almost fucks up "Deep Water."
>King Mez and Justus - Stars are not born
>The album isn't much fun
>
>I mean, "The Chronic" was mostly blunted beats and lyrics
>sessions, but you could tell everyone was enjoying themselves.
>This album seems waaaay too overwrought. And yeah, after a
>while, everyone starts to sound like Kendrick.

You think he just scraped together old works?
It'd be impressive if he did this from scratch after seeing the movie

after 1 listen i haven't much to say lol....need to give this a few more spins

After 1 listen I thought it was cool but not anything amazing. I'll probably listen to it 2 or 3 more times before forgetting about it.

While many of us can't really get into the ones that aren't our favorites

Perhaps this is one of those albums that gets better the longer you digest

But all that loud screevhingg and constant hammering on my brain makes it hard to give it that time

Coming back to it a year from now might reveal more flavor to many of us

Besides a HUGE letdown to me, lemme see, try n stay positive...

- a lot of musical ideas rangin from good to genius, mos of them not so good in execution, and mos of them way too short.

- A record with beautiful dynamics thruout, mostly mix but also melodywise.

- A great moment in hip hop history where two legends collab on a dope track.

- A chance to hear a lotta dope emcees drop verses, some real solid.

That about sums it up to me.

Now, a coupla ?s -

- Wheres the instant classic cuts, that has that timeless feel?

- What happened to Dres calm delivery? (I know, Kendrick...)

- Wheres the slammin drums?

- Wheres the thick westcoastish soundscapes that he helped build, and can we get em back?

...And so on, and so on...

I just watched some studio footage coupla days ago, Snoop went with a WHOLE LOTTA west coast heavyhitters and created MONSTER upon MONSTERS of beats for a record called Detox. That was just half an hour outa round 15 yrs. Of production for another Dre album.

How much AMAZING material was lost and replaced by the mess that is this project?

I can understand Dre not wantin to follow up with carbon Melman or Storch, but at least keep that sound you helped create in the mix. Sure sure, you say, its in there. For bout a coupla minutes max.

I can understand Dre bein inspired by his youth in Compton and in the music biz, and wantin to tap into that energy, but why the beats reflect what is hot amongst the youth today (I.E. Trap) and not what was?

Aight, ima stop for now with concludin that the Dre x Premier collabo was all I wanted it to be.

>I just watched some studio footage coupla days ago, Snoop went
>with a WHOLE LOTTA west coast heavyhitters and created MONSTER
>upon MONSTERS of beats for a record called Detox. That was
>just half an hour outa round 15 yrs. Of production for another
>Dre album.

oh shut the fuck up. you want to talk about detox sessions? heres one of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV_HC8xLdcg

thank god we dodged this bullet

Thats hundreds of top notch

- DJ Quik...

- Battlecat...

- Hi-Tek...

- Focus... beats, plus

- 5 confirmed Premier beats!!!

Aint nobody tryna dodge that.

Look no further than Animals for proof of what this album coulda been...

and he let it play through twice. I had the same reaction to this as I did the Slum album (if you can call it that) from earlier this year: I didn't dislike it, but I'll probably never play it again. The production comes off as the musical version of the old man in the club, showing up in clothes the young boys wear knowing he's well beyond that sort of thing.
If he wanted to make a companion piece to the movie (not interested in that either) after being inspired by it, I think that's a great thing-sometimes taking a look back at yourself can have that effect on an artistic person. But Dre and the rest of his peers (Primo, Pete, etc) are entitled at this point to indulge creatively in whatever they choose, and I can respect that.

It's solid for what it is, but it doesn't push the envelope in any real way. And for Dr. Dre, that's a bit of a letdown. I really wish dj quik had some production on compton, but I'm happy dj premier has a joint on this since it's dr. dre's last album.

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>But Dre and the
>rest of his peers (Primo, Pete, etc) are entitled at this
>point to indulge creatively in whatever they choose, and I can
>respect that.

Feel the same sentiment, but sometimes they play the creative game too safe, just like Jay.

"The production comes off as the musical version of the old man in the club, showing up in clothes the young boys wear knowing he's well beyond that sort of thing."

spot on. wow.

Lupe & Kendrick collab, I could hear it on the Genocide beat.

On the hook

Which might be too generous.

Too loud.
Too unfocused.
Too many unknown featured artists who are instantly forgettable.

I want to expand on that last point. When you listen to The Chronic, everyone single guest is distinguishable and memorable. Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, Rage, RBX, etc. None of these newbies hit me the same way after three listens. If Dre was going to give them this opportunity on this stage, he better have made sure they did something special, which isn't the case and ultimately makes this another Chronic 2001.

this is somewhere ahead of Aftermath Presents tho...

couple of spots are iffy, but overall i am really liking it.

anyway after a couple of listens i definitely dig it. I stopped caring for detox years ago so this came as a huge surprise and had ZERO expectations.

The good

-King mez..boy oh boy he destroyed "talk about it" and overall i feel he's best out of all them new proteges
-Kendrick stole the show...he absolutely killed his verses
-Justus is just a mini drake but hey...them hooks worked
-Anderson.Paak got potential to become a star
-Xzibit brought me back to the restless era, sick!
-Snoop on "one shoot kill" brought back snoop doggy dogg from the dead..haven't heard him spit like that in over 10 years, amazing!
-no old farts featured just for nostalgia value.
-the beats except for a couple of duds are fantastic and the mixing is impeccable
-love the skits and all the beat switches all over the album (the kendrick/TDE influence is evident)

The bad

-jon connor is fucking bland
-cube didn't fit this album at all
-cold 187 um was a wasted feature
-i feel like marsha's vocals are losing strenght
-the eminem track was bad as expected
-2-3 of them beats are unacceptable on a dre album

The verdict

8/10

i had an hell of a time listening to this record for the first time, and the following ones were fun as well. i'm sure it won't leave my rotation any soon. if this is really his grand finale i'm happy with it. like i said i had ZERO expectations for a dre album in 2015.

then i always rewind. "Doctor's orders...go fuck yourself." i love that line.

Everybody, old & new, like the rest of Black Hippy, Quik, YG, Ty$, etc.

RIP to Nate Dogg....It just seems like if it's a Dre album all of them need to be around somehow..

The vocal style on here takes a little while to get used to (sometimes I couldn't even recognize who was who rappin).

But overall I dig the album...no classic..and no stand out single hits...but a good album.

i mean, have you heard kurupt in the last 6/7 years? yuck.

i appreciate the fact he didn't put them on the album for the fuck of it.

not seeing chronic or chronic 2001. kendrick was the star of the show, sadly cube didn't feel right. Snoop was cool. not feeling the newbies. you truly miss Nate Dogg. big void.

Yup... You've summed up how I feel pretty much!

before I write anything, these are just knee jerk first listen reactions, though I can't really see a record like this growing on me at all (but you never know), anyway:

This album doesn't really have any tracks in their entirety that blow me away, though "Just Another Day", "Animal" and "Talking To My Diary" are standouts. Pretty much, for me at least, the positives here are Kendrick Lamar and the fact that no track, as a whole, is flat out horrible (excpet for "Talk About It", those vocals are fucking terrible). The negatives are that, although these beats kind of bang, they just sound so average, especially coming from Dr. Dre. I know it's stupid to make statements like this, because I have no idea how this record was created, but this production honestly sounds like something Dre could do easily. It just sounds like he didn't really challenge himself musically and/or just threw this album together very (maybe too?) fast. Again, I know this is an extremely unfair comparison due to the time difference, but in the past 2 albums it seems to me like Dre was making a big statment with his production, whereas here you could find these beats on your typical mainstream rap album probably. The best beat here was probably the Premo track or the last song. Another thing, a lot of these hooks are just horrible (and in some cases horribly cliche). In addition to that, though I was hype that Dre went with some guests that I hadn't heard of, all of these dudes are just kind of meh on the mic. All the lyrical highlights come from guests who are not the previously unkown (or unkown to me) guys who Dre brought in (see, Snoop, Em, Kendrick). I'm underwhelmed to be honest, but thats ok because I didn't even expect to hear any new Dre in the first place.

Unlike what seems like the past 10-15 years of Dre beats, I wasn't hearing super-sterile mix, slow, heavy piano chord and string beats or quirky, circus sideshow Eminem stuff. It sounded good and I might even eff with an instrumental version of this album.

As noted by others, I didn't like all the yelling, screaming, and strained/emotional vocals.

Off one listen it's a good, 3 outta 5 mic type album.

I'm surprised there isn't really any obvious radio/club hits or joints that will enter the West Coast Classic canon. If this was someone who dropped albums every 1 to 2 years this release would make more "sense" to me. It's well produced and a good listen, screaming vocals aside. But as his first album in 16 years and possibly last release ever, it's an odd way to go out.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

after having heard the album a few times and given a rest for a day i found that 'Animals' was the song that stuck w/me. i wanted to hear it again.

'Satisfiction' too. and 'For the Love of Money'. 'Genocide' has a tremendous beat and though i don't see it as a single i think it'll live as a classic.

>after having heard the album a few times and given a rest for
>a day i found that 'Animals' was the song that stuck w/me. i
>wanted to hear it again.
>
>'Satisfiction' too. and 'For the Love of Money'. 'Genocide'
>has a tremendous beat and though i don't see it as a single i
>think it'll live as a classic.

Agree with everything above besides For the Love of Money. I liked that song but it wasn't one I immediately cared to revisit. Those were Animals, Genocide, Just Another Day and Satisfiction. Everything else I liked at varying levels, and have gone through the album thrice now. Only tracks I outright do not like at all are Issues and Loose Cannons (though Xzibit's verse nearly saved the latter). I'm also extremely lukewarm on Talk About It, especially as an album opener.

this record is such a snoozer
the reference track for Topless is better than pretty much everything on here

But that ref track is a straight smoove banger!!!

An album based on that? Wouldve made my day.

are my shit.

Surprised with the lukewarm reception... took me until last night to listen to it because I was expecting to be underwhelmed and I'm only half way through (Mr Robot took precedence once the food was ready) , but the lady and I were rockin' to this when I was cooking dinner last night.

First thoughts are mainly that most of the vocals are GOOD ENOUGH, not standout, but absolutely good enough because the production is fucking FLAMES. Pretty much every track was knocking my head off up to "One Shot, One Kill" which was the first that struck me as a bit by-numbers, just wasn't moving me much, but Genocide through to Deep Water left me with my fucking mouth hanging open. How has Dre managed to use AWWWLLL the stock 2015 production ideas and made something sounding this FRESH, but this DRE? It's still got that lean, it's still sounding like it needs to come out of a '64 lowrider.

My biggest question is how did Dre produce 16 tracks of releasable music and NOT call it Detox? He must love that monkey on his back...

get it get it get it get it.

I know I didn't! thought the beats were cool enough, but I thought the rapping sucked. then I wasn't interested in the beats anymore; they were kinda bland. "still DRE" was everywhere and I was over it. then "forgot about dre" came out as a single and I hated it even more!

but then summer rolled around and I saw the up in smoke tour, and I saw how these songs BANGED in arenas, and I started to come around. especially "the next episode," which was the summer single. shit just overpowered all the nerdy stuff I was listening to at the time ("nia," the J5 album, even the MMLP).

I was amazed at how these sparse songs could have so much power. "Xxplosive" was like what, only 4 different sounds?? "Ackrite" same thing.

and finally digesting albums like "fantastic vol 2"--with simple-sounding (but not simple at all!) beats and rhymes more concerned with vibe than complex acrobatics--made me fully appreciate 2001. dre stripped off all the g-funk samples and hooks from his sound, moved away from the dramatic mike dean-sounding live instrument/synth thing (e.g. "nas is coming"), and went into the millennium with his stripped-down, clean, and LOUD version of boom bap.

now I think it's a classic. probably up there with "the chronic" in terms of quality and creativity.

SOOO...I'm gonna give "compton" some time to marinate before I fully judge it. I suspect i'll warm to it just like I did 2001. whereas 2001 was a back-to-basics kinda record, "compton" is striking me as HUGE pop effort, in the spirit of an MJ album. can't be mad at that.

>whereas 2001 was a back-to-basics kinda record,
>"compton" is striking me as HUGE pop effort, in the spirit of
>an MJ album. can't be mad at that.

I see this album as actually anti-pop, sans "Animals". There's no blatant single attempts, none of that.

Who knows though. Knowing Dre there will be like 7 power singles from this album that change the course of rap and I'll have my foot in my mouth.

>I see this album as actually anti-pop, sans "Animals". There's
>no blatant single attempts, none of that.

man I know, what could be some singles on this album... "animals"? "for the love of money"? "it's all on me"? he definitely didn't try to conquer radio with a "nuthin but a g thang" or "still DRE" with this one.

as for my "MJ pop" comment, I was thinking more in terms of production and not necessarily "hits". like this big, huge, clean, refined sound with multiple layers. thinking about it now, I probably used MJ cuz that "murda" harmony at the end of "genocide" reminded me of the vox arrangement on "streetwalker" for whatever reason!

>Who knows though. Knowing Dre there will be like 7 power
>singles from this album that change the course of rap and I'll
>have my foot in my mouth.

haha, me too!

>as for my "MJ pop" comment, I was thinking more in terms of
>production and not necessarily "hits". like this big, huge,
>clean, refined sound with multiple layers. thinking about it
>now, I probably used MJ cuz that "murda" harmony at the end of
>"genocide" reminded me of the vox arrangement on
>"streetwalker" for whatever reason!

Word. I agree with this wholeheartedly. There was definitely a focus on Dre's part in making the sound on this big and almost haunting. Lots of layers, I'd almost go as far as to say "overproduced" though I don't want to sound like I'm being critical. The production is top-notch.

If there's anything I want to criticize about this album it's the vocals.

the highs on that one ('Next Ep', 'Xxplosive', 'Still Dre', 'Forgot About Dre') are higher than the highs on Compton ('Animals', 'Genocide', 'For the Love of Money', 'Satisfiction', 'Deep Water', 'Talking to My Diary') but overall i find 2001 to be so uneven i don't consider it a classic album. maybe i should listen again - it's been a few years.

>the highs on that one ('Next Ep', 'Xxplosive', 'Still Dre',
>'Forgot About Dre') are higher than the highs on Compton
>('Animals', 'Genocide', 'For the Love of Money',
>'Satisfiction', 'Deep Water', 'Talking to My Diary') but
>overall i find 2001 to be so uneven i don't consider it a
>classic album. maybe i should listen again - it's been a few
>years.

...but it's based on just how high the highs were/are and the staying power of the albums 10-12 GREAT songs. But there's absolutely some fat that could be trimmed from that album. I actually just listened to it (2001) last week and confirmed this long-standing opinion of mine. I think Light Speed (too boring and redundant sounding), Murder Ink (boring take on that sample), Housewife (redundant because it was on 2 other albums at the time), and all the skits could be cut (the skits served no purpose) and the album would be much stronger as a cohesive sounding final product. But like I said, I still consider it a classic because those highs were ludicrously high and have immense staying power.

the highs on 2001 are undisputed classic tracks, IMO...but not the album. i'll dig that mugg out soon to find out if i've changed my mind.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/20935-compton/

Where are people getting the credits from?

and the physicals that drop on 8/21 should have liner notes.

Siri just played 'Xxplosive' right after 'Talking to My Diary'. God. Damn. I forgot how much I love this fucking track. Shit.

I play it once a month probably, at the very least. Shit still sounds as fresh as the first time I heard it. That beat is brilliant in its simplicity. And Nate Dogg...god, Nate Dogg......couldn't ever possibly say enough about his performance on that track. "Don't wanna treat you wrong, don't wanna lead ya on, here baby hit the bong, while the West Coast rolls alooooooong" ugghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that shit is fucking FIRE.

Ima listen to this shit right now thank you very much.

I was actually kinda upset that erykah didn't put the "xxplosive" version of "bag lady" on "mama's gun." at least as a bonus track or somethin.

and wonder if dre was listening to raekwon's "rainy dayz" when he made this song.

If Royce hadn't spouted his mouth off on the radio this song would've been totally different.

It rings a bell and I know I read about it years ago but I don't remember the details.

followed immediately by reading Royce's 25 essential songs on Complex and reading a bunch of articles off of that.

Anyway all of this refreshed my memory about The Way I Be Pimpin' (which I had forgot about entirely) but didn't really explain the "Royce going off on the radio" comment so I still need explanation of that. Haha. Thanks.

He said in interview with Vibe that Em sat "Dre down like a pupil and coach him on rhymes." Dre got pissed, and cut just about all the tracks that Royce wrote for Dre on 2001. Thus, "The Way I Be Pimpin" became "XXXplosive."

LOL

Kurupt's verse hit me so hard i used to rewind the track to the beginning again after it finished.

>Kurupt's verse hit me so hard i used to rewind the track to
>the beginning again after it finished.

Ahahaha. Yes.

I don't like the hooks. I don't like the way Dre sounds when he raps. A lot of the beats sound too busy. I do like Kendrick on it. And I like Animals. But a lot of it doesn't seem like fun or interesting or memorable music that'll I be coming back to in three months, let alone sixteen years

imeangoddamnitjustsoundslikeachantorsomeshitandmostofthetimetheyrereallynotsayingshit

It wasn't a bad album per se. It's just not an album I want to hear from Dre.

Snoop and Dre do Kendrick karaoke? No thanks.

I want to hear Dre sound like Dre has always sounded. Dre rapping with K-dot's flow is the WORST. And Snoop is even worse than Dre at it.

Premo beat was dope (of course).

Anderson Paak sounds like he'd be at home on one of the last few Roots albums (sounded Dice Raw-ish).

For the Love of Money bangs.
Kendrick is dope as usual.
Xzibit did his thing. Em wasn't bad. Game even dropped a nice verse.

Cube's verse was wack but wasn't expecting much. Glad he was on it though.

King Mez and Justus don't bring much.

It was missing a lot tho.

Should have been classic Dre beats with a who's who of West Coast MC's. Same formula as always.
Dre mostly sounded like shit.
Definitely won't have the lasting legacy his first two albums have.
It has its moments though.

Like I said, not bad, but I expect better from Dre.

at all.

LOL

Gone within seconds.

Some songs are messed up by their endings (the yelling on Loose Cannons and the beat that Eminem raps over on Medicine Man).

I don't care for Dre's voice on this. didn't even realize it was him at first. and like most everyone has said, Cube was a wasted verse. Justus and King Mez didn't impress me. Kendrick and Anderson.Paak own this album.

Xzibit and Game were dope, Xzibit way more so. Cold 187um was dope too. Genocide is the most Dre sounding song. Animals is my favorite song, and the team up lives up to the hype, at least for me.

Snoop sounds the hungriest he's sounded in years on One Shot One Kill. I like some of Jon Connor's stuff, but his verse here is kinda throwaway.

It's a good album, not great but really good

i'm not understanding the i don't like it cuz it doesn't sound like dre and etc type posts. i mean, is it good music or not? i say yes and won't let my expectations ruin my enjoyment of it.

Reminds me of latter career Prince. You can hear that it's made by someone who
is talented and extremely knowledgeable about the *parts* which create good music,
but those parts do not create anything strong overall or anything that sticks.
Ultimately, it's just 'ok' (mediocre) music.
I can't believe there isn't ONE song on here that say "Damn!"
The better songs on here sound like something that's leading up to a great song
(or "Damn!" moment, if you will), but that moment never comes.
The only thing I'm amazed by, here, is how mediocre the whole thing is.
Very well mixed and engineered tho! lol.

Was listening in the car and I couldn't wait to get to the next album... Shit is just hard to listen to... There's a few good tracks, a few good beats, but that's it...

I'd still much rather hear everything he did for Detox... Just release all the demos and reference tracks and anything else in a big ass box set... I'd pay $50 for it...

by the luke warm response. This album is incredible to me. One shot one kill is probably my favorite rap song in 5 years. I don't get the hate.

most people here at least like the album.

Dre dropped an album worthy of his deep catalog.

Dope album, sounds so so good. Surprisingly strong melodies throughout.

you can definitely hear the influence of To Pimp a Butterfly on this album.

Probably my favorite dre album musically, put the lyrics are the same nothing, so far.

>put the lyrics are
>the same nothing, so far.

No clue why Dre feels the need to rap like Kendrick. I think Animals should be a single, really love the message in it. Did take me a little bit to get used to Anderson Paak, not really hearing what y'all are hearing with him, voice is kinda annoying. Overall, I probably will never listen to this album again.

i thought it would have remained exclusively on itunes for a bit longer

as for the album itself, it's pretty underwhelming. there is a lot of stellar production value but most of the beats and non-kendrick rappers are forgettable. they are very well made though

"animals" is ridiculous. i wonder how long premier has been holding on to that beat b/c it sounds like something he made during the peak-of-his-powers phase of his career