>>Sure 13 to 16 year old kids are riding out to Keef...That's
>>what teenagers do...
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>>I'm not mad at that....
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>>I'm more upset with grown ass black folks who should know
>>better than to be championing this bullshit...
>>
>>And I'm especially mad at grown ass white cultural bloggers
>>and fellow magazine/music writers backing the Chief Keefs
>and
>>Trinidad James' of the world...But at least James is
>>harmless...He's "funny" in that, ig-nant ass bamma way...
>
>Obviously there has to be an appeal because someone likes it;
>it's not as if hipsters/cultural* bloggers, etc..buy records.
>They download them or get to review em for free. When someone
>cracked on Trini James being an internet only phenom DJ Ristic
>pointed out its one of his hottest records in real life based
>off his last few parties. Kanye West bogarded 'I Don't Like'
>and it was a huge hit earlier in the year...
>

yeah somebody likes it.... Somebody likes having people boo-boo on them too. So it would be out of bounds to form an opinion on that too???

lol...come on.


>I just can't see how we draw the line here with the Chief Keef
>of the worlds when Mobb Deep were sprewing the same nonsense
>around the same age. Just because rappers now are all in
>their mid 30's doesn't mean that teenagers weren't killing
>each other on wax (and rapping about it) years ago.
>
>I just find it hypocritical for us to be like, 'Chief
>Keef'...artistically bereft music that contributes to the
>downfall of society!
>
>When we were debating N.W.A's non-nomination to the Rock N
>Roll Hall of fame, lol. What was their positive contribution
>to the world lyrically outside of catchy rape songs if we have
>to judge music based on it's morals?

regarding NWA.... When Easy E and NWA initially came out...before they were so-called cross over successes.... The only way they got on the radio...KDAY and the like was to have alternative versions of their records...

now these alternative versions not only had the curse words removed...but they had the lyrics changed that changed the entire premise of the songs....The one I specificlly remember was Dope man...where parts of the chorus where changed to say DON'T BE the Dopeman.... The whole idea of the so-called gangster rap being an exposse of the bad part of life...a deterant so to speak wasn't just an intangible concept...the songs were changed to have lyrics that EXPLICITLY were deterants....DON'T be the dopeman....DON'T smoke weed... DON'T kill people...


Once that type of music got a chance to get widespread exposure on major labels... Those explicit deterant elements were gone.... The negative things in the music became flat out exploitive entertainment....






>
>This Chief Keef album sucks because well, it just sucks, but
>his 'Back from the Dead' mixtape from earlier in the year
>deserved the buzz. The jury remains out on Trini-James, but
>'All Gold Everything' is a great song with stiff, but
>memorable, lines.
>
>I just don't see how we as hip-hop fans can get on our Tipper
>Gore.

You don't see how Hip hop fans can have discerning opinions? You don't see how hip hop fans can have opinions have make judgement on things?

those are human traits....