on itunes

Is this a teaser for the new album???

http://youtu.be/oVsiVf_eSYE

But it would be cool if it were.

*starts holding breath again*


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http://soundcloud.com/manic-choints/

www.twitter.com/itsmeManic

http://vimeo.com/mattferran

The fact that that's 1000 Deaths--with some new drums--is what is making me hopeful.

i would like to know who posted the video. and if it is d'angelo's
camp...why so cryptic?

the delusion continues...

https://twitter.com/nelsongeorge/status/542441146782199810


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no promo. no singles. no video. just release the album and let it be.

i'd dig that.

>no promo. no singles. no video. just release the album and
>let it be.
>
>i'd dig that.

same here.

but the label will want to make sure this hits. to reach those masses (again) he needs this type of big statement.

w that in mind, i kind of dig the black messiah/ 2nd coming type thing. cool imagery too. things fall apart style.

i just hope it doesn't get too serious. fortunately there will be songs like 'sugah daddy' and 'aint that easy' to lighten it up a bit.

but yeah... music first.

>w that in mind, i kind of dig the black messiah/ 2nd coming
>type thing. cool imagery too. things fall apart style.

Set the tone by frontloading your big "comeback" album with all kinds of Christ/Messiah imagery, so that when things get rough and you lose your nerve down the road, you have the ready-made excuse of blaming the audience for having too-high expectations of you!

>>w that in mind, i kind of dig the black messiah/ 2nd coming
>>type thing. cool imagery too. things fall apart style.
>
>Set the tone by frontloading your big "comeback" album with
>all kinds of Christ/Messiah imagery, so that when things get
>rough and you lose your nerve down the road, you have the
>ready-made excuse of blaming the audience for having too-high
>expectations of you!

what do you mean?

he could just put this out, go on a tour w his vanguards band & then quit.

we just have a title at the moment. 'black messiah' could mean, he's coming back to show the world how he thinks popular black music needs to be done. period.

doesn't say he has to do that every year, every decade or even ever again.

and whatever. it's marketing. do what gets eyes on you right?

this seems to be done in a tasteful way.

people will always check back for this guy (they just need a good reminder lol)

>
>this seems to be done in a tasteful way.
>


you're joking right?

because a more tasteful title would be called 'Humbled'

messiah...reaaaalllly feelin oneself after 15 years of mess

>because a more tasteful title would be called 'Humbled'



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it can be removed:

* If something actually drops
* If a label gives a bonafide date
* After a month there's still nothing more than speculation.

Sorry kap.

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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

I think I've really not got much new to say at this point anyway... just bring the music, let us hear.

Joking btw.



Sort of.


imcvspl - stay frosty!

the type of imagery...and the words of Dr. Khalid on the teaser...

is enough for afkap to spontaneously combust...lol. It's like the perfect storm.... a plethora of hate to come..

drink plenty of water brother...lol...

man..your review of this album avails you the opportunity to put the tools of hate into one mission.... it will be your opus..

THE POWER HATE COMPELLS YOU!!!!!

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

I mean there is no way I could have let that one pass..

before this...if someone would have said on the Lesson that D'Angelo is going to call his album Black Messiah and have the type of words and imagery in a teaser causing Afkap to spin into a whirlwind pyramid of hate....people would have laughed it off as a funny joke..

lol..

sorry...couldn't let that one pass...

I'm just saying stfu for now.

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Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP
ABOUT
THIS GUY.

..

>the type of imagery...and the words of Dr. Khalid on the
>teaser...
>
>is enough for afkap to spontaneously combust...lol. It's like
>the perfect storm.... a plethora of hate to come..
>
>drink plenty of water brother...lol...
>
>man..your review of this album avails you the opportunity to
>put the tools of hate into one mission.... it will be your
>opus..
>
>THE POWER HATE COMPELLS YOU!!!!!

I knew this title would be the ultimate "hater-bait" for the usual haters that are so dedicated and committed to hating on everything this man does (and doesn't do). The title is much deeper than the average simpleton/internet troll can comprehend and I know exactly where D is going with all of this. It's making a bold statement about black people in the USA and the fact many believe that black people in this country and worldwide are the true Tribe of Judah..(as was Christ the Messiah). Though in D's case..it's more hardcore (Yahweh Yahshua) based upon his spiritual upbringing and in saying this..I truly don't believe the title is on some narcissistic shit. There's a good reason why he chose to use 1000 Deaths w/Brother Malcom's speech as the trailer music. If you listen closely to some of the mumbled lyrics to the original demo of 1000 Deaths, then you'll totally get it (even though there are only a few lyrics you can actually make out). The brother is a lot deeper than most people are aware of and if in fact you have a soul, then it'll make sense to you. Unfortunately, most heads on "Okayhater" wasn't born with one and that of course makes it virtually impossible for them to look past the exterior because he's always judged and criticized by the haters for his laziness, addictions, dysfunctions, and lack of output over the years. And yeah...dude is probably a real character that lives up to all of that. But so was Sly, Marvin, George, and some of his other musical heroes. Genius cats are kinda bugged and with their talent comes all of these other things that puts them in a questionable light at times, but i take them as they are and i don't expect them to live up to any expectations I have of them. And of course just like with Voodoo, a lot of heads are not gonna get what he's on musically with this new album. But best believe..it's gonna be one of the best, most soulful and uncompromising albums ever made within the last 25 years or so. All those early Funkadelic albums that's he's been so heavily influenced by all these years away from the spotlight were on that same vibration and they packed some serious socio-political messages regarding black people in this country. Also, peep the recent GQ interview with Dave Chappelle where he briefly talks about D's radical outgoing message on his answering machine. I don't care what anyone says.."Black Messiah" is a DOPE and very fitting title for this next lp because I firmly believe that title alone is making a bold statement about the state of black music and black people in this country; especially with songs like 1000 Deaths and The Charade. With all this madness surrounding Eric Garner, Mike Brown, Trayvon, along with all this bullshit on the radio and especially on the net, people need some light and salvation and D wants to bring thru his music. You gotta admit...dude is sorely missed; regardless of all that other shit people always be trippin' on concerning him. I don't believe D thinks he himself is some messiah of any sort, but the title seems to come off like a metaphor and a desire to have his music to reach the ones that can be reached. Contrary to what many may think, real black music is a dying art form on the overground (mainstream) and he's truly one of the last of the greats who can help keep the torch lit in this game. And real talk, a lot of you nothing ass mf's on here hating on dude are like some of his biggest fans because if you weren't..then you wouldn't spend so much time on here finding the most creative ways to nitpick and tear his shit down all day/everyday. That shit gets old after a while and it always stir these bs debates about how unproductive and washed up this guy is. But I'm willing to bet anything that most of you mf's will be owning a copy of the lp when it drops; be it you going out to cop it with your own $ or you coming up on a bootleg copy. And of course once you've given it a good listen you're naturally gonna go in on him because the album doesn't live up to your bs expectations. The haters are still gonna hate because they (in truth) are nothing but overzealous music fans whose entire existence centers around tearing down others who secretly wish they could do what D does..(truth).

With that said, go on 'head D and do your thing good brother and know that I myself and MANY others are so looking forward to this new chapter.

http://i.qkme.me/3oz3v7.jpg

lol

obviously the album is coming out...

https://twitter.com/kwl_management/status/543113950456721408

UPDATE:
The YouTube link was up as a KWL tweet when I posted this but then disappeared less than a minute later lol

>https://twitter.com/kwl_management/status/543113950456721408

this link is dead now.

in fact...

Charade would be a nice first single too..... with a very timely video..

>in fact...
>
>Charade would be a nice first single too..... with a very
>timely video..


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He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

>>in fact...
>>
>>Charade would be a nice first single too..... with a very
>>timely video..
>
>
>silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk
>http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/
>
>"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.
>
>He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.
>
>R.I.P Jamie Hubley

not sure why this would conjure up such feelings...

>not sure why this would conjure up such feelings...

plus..

most of the hype around TTD came out of his own mouth...

This Black Messiah thing is over the top....but over the top is good....

D's status in contemporary Black music is a bit of a controversy....by going this route...he's owning it ya know..

think it's a great move...

and the title is from D like TTD's statements out his mouth

I just think its mad disrespectful and narcissistic esp after all the foibles Dangelo has had, not to mention 15 years to follow through where others made great shit year after year

its like those Voodoo liner notes again ..given all praise and glory as if this is the best music to be heard ever


>plus..
>
>most of the hype around TTD came out of his own mouth...
>
>This Black Messiah thing is over the top....but over the top
>is good....
>
>D's status in contemporary Black music is a bit of a
>controversy....by going this route...he's owning it ya know..
>
>think it's a great move...
>
>

I'm hoping there's a reason behind the title that's not related to him
But If it is, it's back to the same old thing again

I'm really hoping it's not "I'm here to save the world" thing

>I'm hoping there's a reason behind the title that's not
>related to him
>But If it is, it's back to the same old thing again
>
>I'm really hoping it's not "I'm here to save the world" thing

Liner notes:

“Black Messiah is a hell of a name for an album. It can easily be misunderstood. Many will think it’s about religion. Some will jump to the conclusion that I’m calling myself a Black Messiah. For me, the title is about all of us. It’s about the world. It’s about an idea we can all aspire to. We should all aspire to be a Black Messiah.

*

It’s about people rising up in Ferguson and in Egypt and in Occupy Wall Street and in every place where a community has had enough and decides to make change happen. It’s not about praising one charismatic leader but celebrating thousands of them. Not every song on this album is politically charged (though many are), but calling this album Black Messiah creates a landscape where these songs can live to the fullest. Black Messiah is not one man. It’s a feeling that, collectively, we are all that leader.”

>Liner notes:
>
>“Black Messiah is a hell of a name for an album. It can
>easily be misunderstood. Many will think it’s about
>religion. Some will jump to the conclusion that I’m calling
>myself a Black Messiah. For me, the title is about all of us.
>It’s about the world. It’s about an idea we can all aspire
>to. We should all aspire to be a Black Messiah.
>
>*
>
>It’s about people rising up in Ferguson and in Egypt and in
>Occupy Wall Street and in every place where a community has
>had enough and decides to make change happen. It’s not about
>praising one charismatic leader but celebrating thousands of
>them. Not every song on this album is politically charged
>(though many are), but calling this album Black Messiah
>creates a landscape where these songs can live to the fullest.
>Black Messiah is not one man. It’s a feeling that,
>collectively, we are all that leader.”

literally....with the knowledge that it will be taken literally by some...

thus making it a very clever title if you ask me...

but we shall see what it's all about

But if it's an ironic reference--ha ha ha nice one.

I'd think he'd be better served not even touching that issue at all and just concentrating on making good music.

>But if it's an ironic reference--ha ha ha nice one.

it's got people such as yourself over-analyzing...so I think it's a given that the title was designed to have some dual meaning in a sense..

>
>I'd think he'd be better served not even touching that issue
>at all and just concentrating on making good music.

I'm sure that's what you think....lol...

this Messiah shit isnt ironic, fresh or none of that

this is some bullshit is what it is

2uest prolly have something to do with it too lol

as already stated, the music should do the talking, not wink wink nudge nudge titles or labels

this is akin to Pookie going to The Carter just cause he got back to basics etc

Messiah..get thee entire fuck outta here with that

Because when folks came at him about his looks recently some fans and fans here were up in arms saying "but the music is tight and thats what counts"

Now this joker wanna act like he been the shit for every year gone and not a puddle of mess?

Black Messiah? "JJ take that picture off the wall!!"-Florida



>>But if it's an ironic reference--ha ha ha nice one.
>
>it's got people such as yourself over-analyzing...so I think
>it's a given that the title was designed to have some dual
>meaning in a sense..
>
>>
>>I'd think he'd be better served not even touching that issue
>>at all and just concentrating on making good music.
>
>I'm sure that's what you think....lol...
>
>
>

i see nothing wrong w/homie using a 'gimmick' to generate and/or stir interest in the album. artists have done that since art began. it's fine.

w/o knowing if this 'Black Messiah' thing is even about D'Angelo, i expect that if it's about D it's a reference to all of the expectation surrounding the project. he's embracing it and turning it back on us. he's laughing about it and we're to laugh w/him. and to enjoy the music.

Sly did som'n similar w/There's A Riot Goin On. that title was a gimmick - the title worked on 3 levels: 1) Sly and the Fam had been accused of creating a circumstance in Chicago that resulted in a riot after an audience was kept waiting for hrs for their show to begin, 2) Marvin Gaye had recently released a landmark album that posed the question What's Going On, 3) Sly used the title to comment on the rioting that'd been going on across the country since the mid-60s - he felt there should be no riots.

^ Sly did that and yet the music on the album wasn't overshadowed by the title. it wasn't compromised. that album is widely respected now as a classic.

so this Black Messiah thing doesn't necessarily have to hurt the music or the audience's appreciation of it.

it is to laugh.

laugh. enjoy yourself.

it's okay.

>i see nothing wrong w/homie using a 'gimmick' to generate
>and/or stir interest in the album. artists have done that
>since art began. it's fine.
>
>w/o knowing if this 'Black Messiah' thing is even about
>D'Angelo, i expect that if it's about D it's a reference to
>all of the expectation surrounding the project. he's
>embracing it and turning it back on us. he's laughing about
>it and we're to laugh w/him. and to enjoy the music.
>
>Sly did som'n similar w/There's A Riot Goin On. that title
>was a gimmick - the title worked on 3 levels: 1) Sly and the
>Fam had been accused of creating a circumstance in Chicago
>that resulted in a riot after an audience was kept waiting for
>hrs for their show to begin, 2) Marvin Gaye had recently
>released a landmark album that posed the question What's Going
>On, 3) Sly used the title to comment on the rioting that'd
>been going on across the country since the mid-60s - he felt
>there should be no riots.
>
>^ Sly did that and yet the music on the album wasn't
>overshadowed by the title. it wasn't compromised. that album
>is widely respected now as a classic.
>
>so this Black Messiah thing doesn't necessarily have to hurt
>the music or the audience's appreciation of it.
>
>it is to laugh.
>
>laugh. enjoy yourself.
>
>it's okay.

I get that but that the ego has landed stuff is dumb..and I dont think its for a laugh, I think he, 2uest, Leeds all believe he is NEO lol

its funny to me how people have so much to say about it being about the music...yet are the main ones catching feelings about a title they have no idea about the meaning....literal or not..

if the music should do the talking.... wait till the music comes out and then talk.

>its funny to me how people have so much to say about it being
>about the music...yet are the main ones catching feelings
>about a title they have no idea about the meaning....literal
>or not..
>
>if the music should do the talking.... wait till the music
>comes out and then talk.

cats are frustrated, angry, typing out paragraphs over a title.
haven't heard one song yet
shit is funny

over-analyzing like a mother

>its funny to me how people have so much to say about it being
>about the music...yet are the main ones catching feelings
>about a title they have no idea about the meaning....literal
>or not..
>
>if the music should do the talking.... wait till the music
>comes out and then talk.

who his comp???

he could hit a double and be a hall of famer right today...he ain't got to be Hank Aaron..

but he'll be fine...

my main thing has always been for dude's health really... He don't have to make any more records.... just live...be healthy..and if he can make it back to some level of success.... he can be an inspiration for people who have had those same type of issues....

either way it's a win win for him if we look at this in a practical sense...

>Black Messiah? "JJ take that picture off the wall!!"-Florida
>

pwahhhahaaaa...

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

That's not going to create unrealistic expectations for a dude who hasn't dropped anything in a decade and a half.

Seriously this is perfect in keeping with the absent D we've all grown to know and love.
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perfect marketing.

most people forgot about you or don't even know about you.

this will have everybody talking about you.

in other words they will check you out.

perfect since people will eat up a savior in popular black music.

only thing is you have to back it up w music.

he probably can.

and even if he can't entirely...

they can always hide behind the "y'all don't get it yet, but you will in years to come" argument.

and people will eat that up too.

win win.

this campaign is solid.

and he doesn't even have to drop another record after this.

or at least people won't be expecting anything new within 5-15 yrs time.

>perfect marketing.
>
>most people forgot about you or don't even know about you.
>
>this will have everybody talking about you.
>
>in other words they will check you out.
>
>perfect since people will eat up a savior in popular black
>music.
>
>only thing is you have to back it up w music.
>
>he probably can.
>
>and even if he can't entirely...
>
>they can always hide behind the "y'all don't get it yet, but
>you will in years to come" argument.
>
>and people will eat that up too.
>
>win win.
>
>this campaign is solid.
>
>and he doesn't even have to drop another record after this.
>
>or at least people won't be expecting anything new within 5-15
>yrs time.

>only thing is you have to back it up w music.
>
>he probably can.

We're talking about a dude with 2 real albums.. one of which is called a classic by some and most of them were going to check for a new D album any way. The other one was an easier listen for a wider audience but it's close to 20 years old and truthfully isn't all that memorable to most. This approach would be foolish for a cat like Maxwell and he's stayed much more active and has a much richer catalog imo. There is nothing D has done to make me think he is going to roll off the mat and drop a 3rd album that's going to live up to a title 'Black Messiah' If he does then more power to him.

that's probably the joke.

when i saw the title i assumed so, at least.

i seriously doubt homeboy thinks he is the Black Messiah or that his album will save Black Music from __. i expect the title is a play on the expectations projected on the album by fans and critics and whatnot due to the long delay between this one and his last one.

when i saw the title i didn't take it literally. i expect D is having some fun w/this and i immediately decided to have fun w/him. i lightened up.

Maybe you're right

D'Angelo & The Vanguard
Black Messiah
https://twitter.com/HolidayKirk/status/543496813375156224

packaged and all.

we'll know soon enough.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2912062&mesg_id=2912062&page=#2912279

esp after reading that Alan Light/ Leeds interview on here.

and even if he's not - this ain't worth a single second of me having my panties bunched.

it's just not that deep for me.

if homie thinks he's actually the Black Messiah then LOL @ him. but right now i'm LOL WITH him b/c i assume he wants me to.

>and even if he's not - this ain't worth a single second of me
>having my panties bunched.
>
>it's just not that deep for me.
>
>if homie thinks he's actually the Black Messiah then LOL @
>him. but right now i'm LOL WITH him b/c i assume he wants me
>to.

it's better here.

>it's better here.

http://catetoblog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/dangelo-and-vanguard-black-messiah-new.html



Housequake retweeted
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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

looking forward to picking this up in stores.

smart how they credited the band too. esp after reading that alan light/ leeds interview on here.

...THAT'S FUCKING TUESDAAAAAY!!!


But, hey, whenever...!

That's what I'm thinking. OKP is talking about Monday, so maybe Monday Midnight EST for Itunes and Tuesday for in-store copies?

In order for it to be in stores by Tuesday, said stores would have had to know about it for at least a week in advance.

And don't you think somebody would have said something?


``they asked me what the meek would get. picture me: afraid to answer.``

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2014/193910

>And don't you think somebody would have said something?

``they asked me what the meek would get. picture me: afraid to answer.``

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2014/193910

>Is this a teaser for the new album???
>
>http://youtu.be/oVsiVf_eSYE
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
http://blackmessiah.splashthat.com/

Listening party on Sunday for New Yorkers

http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/12/dangelo-has-finished-black-messiah-his-first-new-album-in-14-years/


D’Angelo has finished his first new album in 14 years and will premiere it to the public during a listening session in New York on Sunday, December 14th. The follow-up to 2000’s Voodoo is titled Black Messiah and attributed to D’Angelo and his band the Vanguard.

Fans can RSVP to the listening session, which is being hosted by renowned African American writer Nelson George. The event takes place at the Dream Hotel in Chelsea beginning at 4pm.

In anticipation, the website for D’Angelo’s manager, Kevin Liles, has shared a brief teaser trailer for the album.

https://twitter.com/ij_rogers/status/543511138227335168

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZpgnYhzdkI

>

dude is THE number one d'angelo fan. always keeping the faith.

regardless of what I said I hope it's good

http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/IMG_20141209_173254602.jpg?wmode=transparent

http://pitchfork.com/news/57813-dangelo-finally-announces-long-awaited-new-album-black-messiah/

>

I mean obviously this was too long...and the reasons were nothing positive for D for sure...

but waiting for something has a payoff... of legit enthusiasm.....

which is a good thing....

hopefully...lol.

It was all the false starts and years of "its coming..its about finished..he's a guitar god now, It's due August 2012... here it comes" stuff that made it frustrating

if these hype machinists had shut the fuck up it wouldnt have been so ridiculous and frustrating



>I mean obviously this was too long...and the reasons were
>nothing positive for D for sure...
>
>but waiting for something has a payoff... of legit
>enthusiasm.....
>
>which is a good thing....
>
>hopefully...lol.

but yeah...

happy for him...

and for those of us who want some good music..

let's get some sounboard quality live stuff too...

fire just tweeted she has it. so it's out deah...

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=send_mesg&u_id=124104

>fire just tweeted she has it. so it's out deah...
>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=send_mesg&u_id=124104

linkorstfu

>fire just tweeted she has it. so it's out deah...
>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=send_mesg&u_id=124104

It may even be out by Monday, so it's literally a weekend away.

>It may even be out by Monday, so it's literally a weekend
>away.

Inbox please?

Thanks!

I really miss that feeling surrounding a new release.
Might even go at midnight.

i did that w/Beyonce's album and that was pretty exciting.

Just now seeing this thread (been away for a few days) and am physically giddy... packaged product = copped whenever it drops. Like, early morning trip to the record store giddy, which I haven't done in a loooooong time.

-thebigfunk

~ i could still snort you under the table ~

We are finally getting what we've been asking for. *the album*. That's all we wanted. No hype,no more stories,no stop and go's, just a title and a release date. I'm happy !!!


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Pretty much insuring this alias will be dead next week.

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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

"Phrase not found."

Come on, guys. This stuff writes itself. Proof positive that okp just ain't good ol'okp anymore.


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maxxx aint around no more

It's just too bad he chased away any new blood long before he did so.


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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/dangelo-new-album-black-messiah-20141212

D'Angelo Will Unveil New Album 'Black Messiah' at NYC Listening Party

The R&B singer will play the album in its entirety at an event hosted by Nelson George

By Jason Newman | December 12, 2014

After 14 years, numerous false starts and nearly two years of D'Angelo's next album being "99 percent done," the singer will unveil the follow-up to 2000's Voodoo this Sunday.

The R&B singer will play the completed album, Black Messiah, in its entirety at a listening session in New York hosted by writer Nelson George and organized by Red Bull Music Academy and Afropunk.

As Consequence of Sound notes, D'Angelo's manager Kevin Liles shared a mysterious teaser trailer to promote the album.
George and the singer sat down in May at New York's Brooklyn Museum for a public discussion. When the topic of "neo-soul" came up, D'Angelo hinted that he was embarking on a new musical direction with his own music. "I respect for what it is, but anytime you put a name on something, you just put it in a box," said D'Angelo. "You want to be in a position where you can grow as an artist. You never want to be told, 'Hey, well, you're a neo-soul artist.' Right now, I'm not. We're going someplace else."

D'Angelo also referenced his return to the spotlight, which began with a triumphant covers set at Bonnaroo 2012. Since then, whispers of a new album have appeared periodically.

Shortly after Bonnaroo, Questlove told Rolling Stone that D'Angelo had recorded nearly 30 tracks at Electric Lady, the same New York studio where the singer cut Voodoo. "He is about to take a radical 180 turn with this record," Questlove said at the time. "It's going to throw people off the same way that Prince's Dirty Mindthrew his R&B fanbase off. In the past few years, he's discovered Bowie and Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, Pet Sounds, Captain Beefheart and Zappa." At the time, Questlove said that the musician was experimenting with guitar arrangements and creating his own keyboard sounds.

In January 2013, Questlove told Billboard that D'Angelo's album was "99 percent done." "I would not be far off by saying this is probably my generation's version of Sly There's a Riot Goin' On," the drummer said. "It's potent. It's funky. It's an extremely hard pill to swallow.

"It's going to take you about 10 years to digest this record," he added. "Totally brilliant. Just the way this society works with music...being able to judge if something is a classic after the first listen, you can do that after 30 seconds on this. And the fact that we started this record in 2004, and it still sounds like it came out five years from now, it is a testament to the timelessness of it."

In a June interview, Liles said that the Bonnaroo show inspired D'Angelo to want to finish the album. "He very bluntly put it, 'Kev, the studio and the stage: that's my lifeblood. Now that I've touched it again, now that I see it again, I wanna be sure that the baby I'm about to have – the album – that I take it to the point where it's all it can be.'"

no one would listen

tuh

if any of ya'll can decipher even 50% of what he's saying in the song, let me know. thanks

>if any of ya'll can decipher even 50% of what he's saying in
>the song, let me know. thanks

"I just wish that I could open her up, to this deeper place of love", that's all I got, for now lol !!!

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R.I.P Jamie Hubley

BRING IT!

I was skeptical of this track based on the live performances - just a mediocre vamp - but this is great! The production detail and the piano performance slay.

Good start and good confidence builder (on the part of the listeners, I mean)


-thebigfunk

~ i could still snort you under the table ~

a studio version of. It definitely sounds good sonically. But I seriously have no clue what he's saying. I always looked at the D'Mumblo stuff from Voodoo as more joke than reality. Vocals were low. But you could understand what he was saying. This song though. The vocals are are up. But they're really hard to decipher with the effects added to them.

>if any of ya'll can decipher even 50% of what he's saying in
>the song, let me know. thanks

(also based on a live recording)

verse 2

(...) for my philosophy, on top of that i give you what you need
it's nice to me (...) smile, sometimes i gotta just ease it out, hold up, wait a minute
and even if i wanted to give her some of my love, i give her the pacifier (?)
(... ... ... ...)

this is the way i clap my baby on the butt
she got me hooked with only just one glance
she needs some spanking, baby that's what's up
i said i want to be the one she (... ... ... ...) romance

chorus 2

girl's got a worldly view
what's a sassy girl to do
my indecision never (...)
you best believe that i will be your shugah daddy

brown eyes that'll make you blue
eyes that'll see right through you
she crossed her fingers when she said her vows
she said i promise i'm going to sock it to you daddy

...people haven't heard "Sugah Daddy" already?
I'm kinda surprised. Or...maybe not really.
Maybe people don't seek out live bootlegs like we do *shrug*

That being said, I think people are going to snap when they hear "Another Life" and "Charade". I really enjoyed those live and have been waiting to hear how they translated in the studio setting.

>Maybe people don't seek out live bootlegs like we do *shrug*

i like it.

has a nola funk vibe to it.

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Go ahead and Loose your shit to this. If you don't get it I feel bad for ya!

hope the music is good. dissapointed some of these songs that have been doing the rounds are on there. did anyone really like really love that much? still, im hopeful. good to have him back. looks its real this time.

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*shrug*

not sure i believe that entirely, sounds like a way to deflect from the hype and self-aggrandisement of the title.

but hey, if it makes people become politically pro-active, then great.

ive never really thought of dangelo as a great thinker though really. i think his politics are basically learnt from hip hop and 70s soul. so im not really expecting to hear any great new ideas from him in that department.

...really underwhelming. It sounds unfinished :(

come on man...

nobody's conjecture should weigh more than the truth..

folks should just admit they over thought the meaning behind the title and just accept what dude said he meant by the title..

cos that isnt anyone talking about 'bring out your inner messiah', its a speech about JESUS! i would say dangelo, or his camp at least, are pretty okay with religious demagoguery comparisons... hes one video away from being pictured hanging on a cross. im just waiting for them to pull that out the bag.

>cos that isnt anyone talking about 'bring out your inner
>messiah', its a speech about JESUS! i would say dangelo, or
>his camp at least, are pretty okay with religious demagoguery
>comparisons... hes one video away from being pictured hanging
>on a cross. im just waiting for them to pull that out the
>bag.


and tell you exactly what they mean without you having to use any creative thought to figure out what they mean ..then yeah...maybe you wouldn't view it the way it's intended...

but I got it right away...


during the introduction to the book Malcolm X the FBI files...there is a copy of a memo that refers to them (them being the FBI) ... needing to stop the rise of a "Black Messiah"... that along with the imagery of a group of protestors raising their hands ....probably in reference to the Ferguson protests.... then adding the words of Dr. Khalid being specific about the Messiah or Divine figure being a Black man....It is clear that the title Black Messiah is referring to a populist type message that is timely to a group of people...Black people who are currently under attack in situations like we have seen with the police and even prior to that Trayvon Martin...

whereas previously the government...FBI made efforts to stop the rise of a Black Messiah to quell the rise of Freedom among Black people..... Police Brutality and a lack of justice again is attempting to suppress the rise of Black people...particularly the Black man..

if you recall D'Angelo's performance at the American Festival thing a couple years ago he dedicated the song Charade to Trayvon Martin...and spoke about how that represented a larger problem.....

somewhere on this promotional video or on something that was released there is a quote from the lyrics of Charade...All we wanted was a chance to talk, instead we got outlined in chalk....

I think with all that is happening recently ... that prompted D to change the title of the album..and rush the release...obviously because the hands up picture had to have been taken really recently....

but again..it all makes sense and to me is a very timely and clever title for the album.

Shit jams and has that grit that's been missing...

With that said....

1)i don't see this being a $ track...nice here I am again joint.

2) WTF is he saying...maybe he knows we call him Mumblo and he's playing to that.

3) I know damn well this didn't take 15 years to make. Was he really in the studio tinkering with this song for 15 years???

>1)i don't see this being a $ track...nice here I am again
>joint.

My guess is that's all it is supposed to be. Great tune, great performance, but it's not going to be a major radio hit and my guess is that whoever decided this would be the first to come out knew that.

fwiw, Voodoo had *one* "$" track and I'm convinced that was something of a fluke... by which I simply mean that Untitled was sort of out of place on the album, sonically, not unlike Left & Right (the $ track that wasn't). I'm glad he dropped the track, but anyone looking for it to wipe away all questions or doubts (esp. if they are already a "doubter") is fooling themselves... because if this album is anything like Voodoo (and the imagery and hints suggest it is), then it's probably going to be intended as an *album*.... pick any track off Voodoo besides the aforementioned, and they stand on their own for sure but they make much more sense in the context of the whole (imo).

>3) I know damn well this didn't take 15 years to make. Was he
>really in the studio tinkering with this song for 15 years???

Does it matter?

-thebigfunk

~ i could still snort you under the table ~

As far as this project is concerned with the current state of the biz
Someone put all their chips on him in hopes of a big win.
15 years in the electric lady wasn't cheap.

The quality of the record isn't the concern
Dude will deliver
And WE will support
The question is will it get over to the other side enough for folks to see a return on investment.
Ain't no way they're into this expecting to lose.

Would a tour help?

I'm not sure how successful the US shows were a few years ago.
Did the MJB tour bring folks out....did the shows sell out?
He will get US to come out along with the so-called hipster crowd.
Will he get the Essence fest crowd?
Based on their reaction to the performance a few years ago....time will tell.

i will stop the armchair analysis for now
i am excited for him
all jokes aside, it was a huge thing for him to let this project go
I'm just trying to be realistic about the public reaction to his return

i love the sparseness of this track.

it's catchy, uptempo, funky and feel-good.

good ingredients to peak interest for the record.

not sure if they see this as the money track(s).

i'd say the money track is 'another life'.

they're probably saving that for later (as with untitled for voodoo).

he didn't work on this for 15 years.

i think he has a totally diff work ethic than most (meaning no work ethic).

the mumble is whatever. it didn't really bother me on voodoo.

he might have lyrics now, but took too long to re-record.

the label probably just ordered to distort some mumbles to finish the product.

not a BIG single

but a strong song to let people know hes back

its a weird choice, its a funk jam, not a catchy radio song

but it shows him as someone not compromising (though its also pretty upbeat, so its not like its too dark), not interested in competing with dj mustard or whoever

Dancing down the street with all the pageantry

Hey Rainbowchild! Fancy seeing you here! It's been a while! Lots of D'angelo action going on! Seems to be the big moment we've been hoping for!

Had to come and rejoice with him, only right.

4, if you want the encore of the character.

Mr. Archer is no different. We got his 1994/95 intro where we were all introduced & bonded with the guy.

His second act, where there were some endearing foilibles, some misgivings, transgressions, growth & discoveries. Stones were left unturned & im certain most of us felt that redemption was needed, or that he left his business unresolved.

Now we on to act 3? Redemption!

Has he been fucking with us all these years with that being a reference to how long D's absence was going to be?

Many moons ago, there was a hot thread where the 15th post mysteriously disappeared. Then qoolquest became 15.

cute

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Sugah Daddy lyrics

LOL I dig the lyrics but I know damn well he is not ennunciating a damn word of that.

Waiting over a decade for queef lyrics seems excessive, but I guess that's not for me to decide.

>Waiting over a decade for queef lyrics seems excessive, but I
>guess that's not for me to decide.

I hope he was high as fuck when he wrote that because if he wasn't…. :(

Y'know, he banks on the fact that nobody knows what the hell he's saying. I mean, he got on BET awards and performed quite a few times singing about queefs and we're just like, "...yeah totally man, whatever you say". I'm sure his camp has been laughing about that for a while now.

and i am pissed because

I Am Ready!

I tend to not have expectations on albums before I hear them, but I know some of us here don't have that in us. However I figured having the hyperbole in one place would keep the thread tidy.
This also goes for the people that will hate it when it drops, then force themselves to listen to it until they like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHgJFutF5vs

automatically the only ones who judge fairly and respond honestly?

considering that I haven't said anything about being unimpressed. But I do however think it's more plausible to listen to a work without a high or low expectation because you're not caught up in the hype either way.

Prayer, Betray My Heart, Back To The Future, shiiiiiiiiiiiitttttt !!!!! Welcome back,D. If you ever take this long again, though... lol !!! Y'all in for a treat. And no, I won't be sharing. It's worth the wait.

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He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

>

A friend of mine got a copy early, and he slid it to me. The second half of the album is awesome. You'll see.


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R.I.P Jamie Hubley

Can't wait to hear it tonight!!

for real. mind be blowin'

Yep yep. You're gonna love it,Warren. But, you already knew this lol !!!

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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

I'm hoping I don't have to stay up till mindnight PST..

but I will I think if I have to...

.........since we're on the westcoast.


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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

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R.I.P Jamie Hubley

Yep...Midnight....

Just heard it at a listening session...Worth the wait....

>Yep...Midnight....
>
>Just heard it at a listening session...Worth the wait....

It really is, isn't it ? Damn !!! I love "Ain't That Easy", better than the live versions I heard.


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R.I.P Jamie Hubley

I need to go jogging, or something. Too excited.

>I need to go jogging, or something. Too excited.

Ha ha !!!


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R.I.P Jamie Hubley

>Just heard it at a listening session...Worth the wait....

and methinks theyve been able to keep it under wraps because they haven't sent to manufacturing yet.

I really liked her solo album from 2003..

She's a very warm spirit and her lyrics are on point. She uses a lot of ...lofty vocab and I dig that in a soul song.

i most certainly agree!


..:::the oracle sound:::..

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www.DeFiantoracle.com

>

Guess i'll wait till it hits the store. But, for now i'll just rock with this download.


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Like, it's so dirty/grungy and beautiful.
Like they dragged the tape through the streets or something.
Or did 7 over dubs on it.

I dig that song a lot.
a lot.

a lot lot.

also side b is amazing.
prayer
betray my heart

lovely.

>Like, it's so dirty/grungy and beautiful.
>Like they dragged the tape through the streets or something.
>Or did 7 over dubs on it.
>
>I dig that song a lot.
>a lot.
>
>a lot lot.
>
>also side b is amazing.
>prayer
>betray my heart
>
>lovely.
>

*daps* regarding Side B.

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He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

>Like, it's so dirty/grungy and beautiful.
>Like they dragged the tape through the streets or something.
>Or did 7 over dubs on it.
>
>I dig that song a lot.
>a lot.

Agreed - everything about that track is wonderful... the layers, the restrained chaos that feels like it's about to spin out of control, the drums (!), and the undoubted nod to Riot on the bass in the intro and outro --- gorgeous stuff.

-thebigfunk

~ i could still snort you under the table ~

didn't think it could get better than the early version. will
be bumpin that shit in the car for a loooong time...lol


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"There is much temptation to use what has worked before,
even when it may exceed its effective scope."

"Roll me further bitch"

I wanna be mad and be like fuck this dude for making me wait damn near 15 years but this shit is just what I needed from a Black artist right now. "Back to the Future Part 1" is on repeat!

Yup. I want to stay mad about waiting so long for this record but it's damn near brilliant.

I listened to three tracks skimmed through the rest, I'll try to listen to the rest tonight after the kids go to sleep

I'm not trying to be funny
I really can't understand 95% of what he is saying

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/dangelo-black-messiah-listening-party?utm_source=noiseyfbus Lyric book right here.

I'm glad he doesn't enunciate the words "make/made the p*ssy fart"

haven't heard the other songs yet though.

But, was I spot on about the second half of the album ?


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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

Prayer and Another Life were the highlights for me upon first listen
On those, he takes it to the level that I wanted to hear....
The lyric book helped out a lot so I will have to go back to side a
But after a few listens....side B is where it's at!!

good stuff..

http://www.metrolyrics.com/news-story-dangelo-black-messiah-lyrics-revealed.html

Haven't been here in forever, but this is the first place I thought to come.

Yes!

On my first listen right now...

Wow...This is insane!!
It's really finally here
Literally been dreaming bout this!

All of Side B is nuts, but that song in particular gave me the same feeling after hearing "The Root"

Love betray my heart. So great.

I said on Twitter BMH woulda fit on Voodoo but I couldn't figure out why I thohhh that.

It is the similarity to Root!

My favorite song on the album. Actually the best song I've heard in at least a few years.

the shit!

maaan, listen. sheeeit.

love the vibe...and some really solid songs on here..

I'm going to bed ..but looking forward to really getting into this..


man...2014 ends with a New Funkadelic album full of funky tracks...and a New D'Angelo album...

I'm not mad....lol.

>love the vibe...and some really solid songs on here..
>
>I'm going to bed ..but looking forward to really getting into
>this..
>
>
>man...2014 ends with a New Funkadelic album full of funky
>tracks...and a New D'Angelo album...
>
>I'm not mad....lol.


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R.I.P Jamie Hubley

Believe it!

I am very much a fan of the introspection of Voodoo and this is so much more sophisticated and in consistent pocket.

Jesus - the album has been out for a few hours - circulating for a few days - simmering for *15 years* and you have already signed, sealed, delivered a final opinion on its place in his (admittedly small) discography?

My humble proposal: let's all just listen and enjoy... worry about contextualizing, situating, categorizing, ranking, assigning quantitative and qualitative merits and demerits until we've actually had a chance to soak it in a bit...

-thebigfunk

~ i could still snort you under the table ~

D's best work. Can't tell me nothin!!!

Almost done with my first listen.
Betray My Heart stood out to now.
Another Day just about to start.
Gonna finish that one, then off to sleep.
I just "got" twigs, and now she's bumped.
This for the next several days at least.

Ain't That Easy
Tutu
Betray My Heart
Another Life
The Charade

This is really good

Their haven't been a lot of exciting moments in mainstream R&B this year so I'm interested to see how this plays on Black Radio, BET, Revolt, etc. A tour will go a long way in helping to tell the story as well. Good to see people buzzing/talking about an R&B record. Been to long since that has happened.

Just beautiful stuff. Fucking well done.


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now i just can't wait to listen to the album!

I can't wait to hear this but I'm gonna wait till I can get the cd in my hand for that old time unwrap the cd experience.

I really hope I'm not disappointed!

cotdammit D dropped!!!!!!!

this year...

The rest of the cuts are amazing compared to this song. SERIOUSLY

Betray My Heart
Back to the Future
1000 Deaths
Really Love
Another Life

etc are all stellar and "Sugah Daddy" is zzz.

there is no 'worst joint'

They can take their same sound n style from 15 years earlier and create an album without having to hop on a single trend.

No Mustard on the beat ho, no "bad bitches in my section," not even the rap feature as he had on "Left, right"...no blatant track for the ladies, just all him and what he did on his last album.

I do wonder how the under 21 crowd is going to receive it...they never really had a chance to enjoy this sound in the mainstream, so it might go over their head. But I know there's some folks in that crowd who will be inspired by it, especially the young artists who go for a soulful sound.

this is clearly 30+ music...if youngins get it cool..if not, whatever.

His core audience is elsewhere and for damn sure they don't want hear him over a fucking mustard beat

think about it...some of them weren't born when Brown Sugar was out...

others were in elementary school when Untitled blew up...

It's not his lane...

I really think it depends on what kind of 21 and under audience we're talking about because as much as people want to lump everyone that young all together there are most definitely different crowds within that age bracket. I could see the Low End Theory kind of youngsters really digging this.

>I do wonder how the under 21 crowd is going to receive
>it...they never really had a chance to enjoy this sound in the
>mainstream, so it might go over their head. But I know there's
>some folks in that crowd who will be inspired by it,
>especially the young artists who go for a soulful sound.

Can't disrespect the youngsters who had no control over what got played to them in their lifetime.

I'm 21... and the only people my age or younger that I know will listen to this (and also know about Brown Sugar & Voodoo) are musicians

Even though they didn't grow up on it, as a musician they can't avoid the influences

LOL

I think especially in Black music. Rock bands like AC/DC & Iron Maiden can keep doing their same style and basically giving their fans what they want without trying to reinvent the wheel and keep their core fan base happy. I'd be hard pressed to think of a recent Black artist who has been "allowed" or willing to do this. Maybe Too Short?

>They can take their same sound n style from 15 years earlier
>and create an album without having to hop on a single trend.
>
>No Mustard on the beat ho, no "bad bitches in my section," not
>even the rap feature as he had on "Left, right"...no blatant
>track for the ladies, just all him and what he did on his last
>album.

That's one of the best things about this record. This is D'angelo for better or worse. No records with Migos or T Pain or a hot 16 from Niki or Drake. It's D and his crew doing his Prince influenced, Dilla thing that he's been doing.
>
>I do wonder how the under 21 crowd is going to receive
>it...they never really had a chance to enjoy this sound in the
>mainstream, so it might go over their head. But I know there's
>some folks in that crowd who will be inspired by it,
>especially the young artists who go for a soulful sound.

Forget the under 21 crowd...I'm wondering about the under 30 crowd! 15 years is a long ass time. I think musicians & beat heads will dig it because it has a certain grit to it that I think they will appreciate and I think their favorite older producer (9th Wonder, Quest, Madlib, etc) will rave about it so much it will at least make them curious about it. I also think the Silverlake/Williamsberg hipsters will dig it as well. I went to Amoeba to buy a physical copy and they were bumping it in the store. When I bought my copy the guy behind the register said that everyone who came in to buy that album bought more than 1 copy and that a few people have been asking about the vinyl.

Not sure if my kids are any indication, but my two oldest (19 and 15) don't really truck with D'angelo at all. The grooves don't catch for them I guess, and they can't stand his singing/mumbling.

The wife and I ran through Voodoo one night with them, and they were just clowning each song.

i'll give him that.

hope things are good for you brother..


God bless

thanks cool and the best to you brother. peace

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I'm just amazed! I'm really enjoying this album so far! That lyrical booklet online really helped as well. After hearing the studio version of "Sugar Daddy", I felt that this was going to be necessary. It is actually quite brilliant. People will have no choice but to hunt for these lyrics if they don't have a physical copy. Disappointed that the digital booklet wasn't delivered with this. But hey, after 15 years, I guess I just need to shut the fuck on up about that.
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For those who don't want to pay for Itunes and then pay for physical, know that it's on Rdio, which means it's probably on Spotify too (haven't checked yet).

Listening now... A few thoughts:
- I've done my best to keep my expectations in check over the years... and I've *never* begrudged dude for taking his time, going through his shit. No sweat off my back, and I have no stake in a musician releasing something they're not ready to release yet... just figured the album will come when it comes, and it will be what it will be - good, bad, amazing, terrible, transcendent, a hot mess. To have it here is great, and hopefully dude's in a good place about it... good reminder that all art is a gift.

- Esp. since half-way through the record and shit is sounding really great so far. Sonically, compositionally, performance - who knows *when* these tracks were recorded, but you can definitely feel some work was laid into this. Won't make grand pronouncements on its worth yet, but no question that this is going to be an album worth really spending time with, engaging with. Hope that as listeners we can find some space to devote some real attention to it.

- I understand why folks want lyrics, complain about not being able to understand him... but in truth it's good to hear him blurring his words again w/this record... one of the things that puts and keeps Voodoo in my absolute favorite records of all time is its creative and intense approach to vocals. On that album, the vocals became instruments in and of themselves. Not just the *voice* as *an* instrument, but the full arrangement of vocals... words didn't matter as much as the dense (and unpredictable) harmonies that often left the melody floating unhinged, hinted at but undecipherable... vocals that were as much (probably more?) about texture and uncertain tonalities as they were about delivering a hook and a meaning. It's something I've come to appreciate more and more over the years, something my younger ears weren't ready for...

So to hear him taking that approach to vocals even further here (again, first impressions) is a real pleasure. All the tweaks and glitches and absences on a cut like Sugah Daddy really shows off that approach, I think...

Alright, back to listening. Side note: is Tutu this album's "The Root" - 2/4 meter (?), asymmetrical in pattern, so you're caught in something of a loop? Good stuff!




-thebigfunk

~ i could still snort you under the table ~

:)

even Maxx came back for this. I really do like this album. Picks up right where Voodoo left off, and thankfully didn't fall into the cliches that were advertised about the "sound" of this album.

"The Charade" is one of my favorite songs in a long time. So is "Another Love".

real glad to hear this from him. hopefully the next don't take 10 000 years.

only heard it once all the way through on my ipod (who knows what i will think when i get the cd), which in itself is a weird experience, and not one i expected to have for a long time yet. i dont think it exactly JUSTIFIES the period its taken, but it doesnt dissapoint either.

my main thoughts while listening to it are, this could have been made in 1997. im slightly dumbfounde by the datedness/stodginess of some of its rockier elements. hes far from a bad guitarist, but hes not a great guitarist either, and i think id prefer to hear more rhythm guitar on this than slightly corny dubbed on acid freakouts (hes no eddie hazel). the rockier drum parts also sound a bit 90s. erykah did funk-rock better on mamas gun. i guess i dont really like his taste in rock all that much, and think its a little on the corny side (honestly, i think hes also looking in the wrong places, hes sounding more 90s BRC than tv on the radio - i wonder if dangelo ever checked out desperate youth bloodthirsty babes?) moreover, i just dont GET the insistence on wanting to become rockier. whats good for the goose (prince) isnt necessarily good for the gander.

other than that, hey, this is a cool little album. i think the shorter song lengths are good for dangelo. back to the future (corny title aside), betray my heart, really love, and the door are some of the best songs hes written (though im aware all the songs i like most are the type that blue note might put out lol). i also love the vocals on this. as ive prob said before, hes made 'hiding' into an artform. 1000 deaths is one of the most interesting (if not always that sure-footed) things hes done (it should have been the first song really), but i like straighter sounding dangelo a lot too. aint that easy makes me think of joan armatrading or chrissie hynde or 80s tina turner even.

its an interesting album, its dangelo showing how versatile he is, so it doesnt always hang together that well (in some ways i think the disparity between his ambition, his reserve, and his comfort zone is most apparent on this album than any other, but not necessarily in a bad way, but it also says that 'the dangelo sound' is pretty much what was there on voodoo, esp the dilla drums, i guess thats here to stay). its actually his most prince-like album in that respect. i dont think he pulls it all off perfectly, but its a really good third album. if he actually puts another one out in the next year, i think it will seem better, and not have to be so significant. and i really hope he does.

all in all, i give it 4.5 abs out of 6.

I like the album!

And I also agree it could have been done earlier.

But who are we to judge how long it should take to make an album?

Nevertheless, I must admit I thought there would never be a new album...but here it is!

Sure it is not as revolutionary sound as Brown Sugar or even Voodoo, but it is good!

I'm fine with the more "rock and guitar oriented" vibe since the chord progressions are not completely crazy and totally abstract.

Sometimes I find the way he sings a bit too over played (I'm not so sure it's the right word but I hope you'll get my point) but overall I'm into it, I still like his voice and vibes and that's nice.

Looking forward to putting my hands on the vinyl.

So good job D and I also hope it'll not take 15 years to get a new album!

Cheers from France and stay cool and easy!

>if he actually puts another one out in the next year, i think
>it will seem better, and not have to be so significant. and i
>really hope he does.
>

Or at least, not necessarily on these tracks.

sheeeeeiiit


does it really matter?

for all my fans who keep my name in their mouth: http://i.imgur.com/v2xNOpS.jpg

LOL
i'm too busy being a geeked out fan who's immensely pleased w/what i'm hearing.

the more i listen to the album the more i like it.

Good reply tho. ill preface with three points

1)Rock is my primary genre.

2)Moderating these boards heavily during that time I was so turned off to D'angelo I only listened to voodoo from front to back in the last five years or so, LOL.

3) I hate modern 'black rock' (really funk rock) and pretty much everything you kinda described below:
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=17&topic_id=46841&mesg_id=46841&page=7

>my main thoughts while listening to it are, this could have
>been made in 1997. im slightly dumbfounde by the
>datedness/stodginess of some of its rockier elements. hes far
>from a bad guitarist, but hes not a great guitarist either,
>and i think id prefer to hear more rhythm guitar on this than
>slightly corny dubbed on acid freakouts (hes no eddie hazel).
>the rockier drum parts also sound a bit 90s. erykah did
>funk-rock better on mamas gun. i guess i dont really like his
>taste in rock all that much, and think its a little on the
>corny side (honestly, i think hes also looking in the wrong
>places, hes sounding more 90s BRC than tv on the radio - i
>wonder if dangelo ever checked out desperate youth
>bloodthirsty babes?) moreover, i just dont GET the insistence
>on wanting to become rockier. whats good for the goose
>(prince) isnt necessarily good for the gander.


The thing is much of the great rock music in the past 25 years or so have been made by decisively shitty guitarists* or at least a heavy focus on texture and restraint as opposed to Stevie Vai skill. It's interesting you bring up TV on the Radio, because most of their interesting songs...outside of a solid gospel vocal core, is pretty much all drum beats and instruments used as textures. It's why I like the funk rock elements on the record out of anything ive heard since the 80's(minus living color) its not at the forefront and buried in the mix.

For even a 'great' funk rock band 1000's deaths would have had that main riff repeated with a simple verse chorus verse with some wah wah 10 minute long solo at the bridge, extra loud over the vocals. It's simple, but tastefully used, and really the parlament/funk vocals are are a bigger part of the melody of the chorus then the guitars.

Basically, either because of his lack of skill (or imho, his good songwriting ear) he buries the funk element depper in the mix so its NOT so cheezy. Which is why I think it succeeds when other records fail (pretty much all the neo-soul rock experiments including Badu). The acid freakouts could have been background strings, its decisively underplayed and smartly so.

>The thing is much of the great rock music in the past 25 years
>or so have been made by decisively shitty guitarists* or at
>least a heavy focus on texture and restraint as opposed to
>Stevie Vai skill. It's interesting you bring up TV on the
>Radio, because most of their interesting songs...outside of a
>solid gospel vocal core, is pretty much all drum beats and
>instruments used as textures. It's why I like the funk rock
>elements on the record out of anything ive heard since the
>80's(minus living color) its not at the forefront and buried
>in the mix.

i guess it sounds like R&B-rock, i.e more like sandra st victor, or miguel maybe, than mothers finest or the chamber brothers. actually the first song is quite a bit like van hunt (if not vocally). and that is something im fine with, but i think i maybe expected something a little more subtle or textured than dangelo doing straighter-edged funky pop-rock. bilal actually did some more interesting rock-ish stuff on airtights revenge. im not hating, i still like these songs, im just a little surprised. maybe its cos of the title that i didnt expect princey pop-rock like charade (which i love btw) on this... the whole first half is basically dangelo making his bid for hey 'i can do rock too'.

I'd say that is an astute and fair-minded review, though I'd give it a 4 out of 6.

i've only had a chance to listen to the 1st 4 or 5 tracks on the way home today, but my FIRST thought was that "1,000 Deaths" SHOULD have been the opening track to the record without a doubt....THAT one's a tone setter. it eeks OUT of the speakers and comes to GET you...

similar to your thoughts here....

>1000 deaths is one
>of the most interesting (if not always that sure-footed)
>things hes done (it should have been the first song really),
>

...gonna listen to the entire record tomorrow...

record

this album probably wouldn't have worked in 2001 during the fall of the House of Arie

i'm sure it woulda played for us which i think of as a success

not sure if it woulda hit overall like VooDoo especially in the great Neo-Soul crash of '02

Soulquarians had the staying power tho, so who know.

this joint is very enjoyable tho. i'd have proabably liked it then too.

But I will momentarily.

Goddamn this nigga made my day!

> Goddamn this nigga made my day!

The way naysayers act like he's Lil Wayne on the guitar..D'angelo put his foot into this project and dude can play his ass off.


Instagram: ascensionmusic

damn it i need liner notes...these digital copies left us short changed.

Instagram: ascensionmusic

Yep...he's doing the bulk of the guitar work from what I've been told....

No specifics
So the myth continues
My guess is that that the mind blowing solos goes to Jesse

the lyric sheet on Vice says 'IN' but everything else i'm seeing has 'TO'.

any idea which it is?

btw...this song is THE JAM. and reminds me of 'Africa Talks To You' in all the right ways.

>the lyric sheet on Vice says 'IN' but everything else i'm
>seeing has 'TO'.
>
>any idea which it is?
>
>btw...this song is THE JAM. and reminds me of 'Africa Talks
>To You' in all the right ways.


Its Back to the Future... parts 1 and 2


part one he says "I been wondering.. if its only my abdomen... yall been listening toooo"

well said Yo....

This is a classic!!!!!

http://noisey.vice.com/ja/blog/dangelo-black-messiah-listening-party

^^ scroll down.

after hearing "Betray My Heart" last night at that session is the same as it is this morning....Shit eating grin....

Side A
AIN'T THAT EASY
1000 DEATHS
THE CHARADE
SUGAH DADDY
REALLY LOVE

Side B
BACK TO THE FUTURE (PART I)
TILL IT'S DONE (TUTU)
PRAYER
BETRAY MY HEART
THE DOOR
BACK TO THE FUTURE (PART II)
ANOTHER LIFE

Swiped from Okayplayers front page that none of us forum members actually check out, lol

"The 15-years-in-the making follow-up to Voodoo hits iTunes at 12:00AM EST with CD and 2xLP vinyl release coming next week"

>Swiped from Okayplayers front page that none of us forum
>members actually check out, lol
>
>"The 15-years-in-the making follow-up to Voodoo hits iTunes at
>12:00AM EST with CD and 2xLP vinyl release coming next week"
>

*inserts sad face*

More traditional record stores should have it.

not all of us have to be THE FIRST to speak. lol

or he could just be busy.

I got the record Sunday afternoon. I have listened to it 3 times and I am still digesting it. It's a bit hard to listen to it "naked," free of all the misleading hype from the likes of 15 and fireOK but I think I have been able to block out those voices.

I probably will not be commenting on the album, though. (Not here, anyway.)

Only thing I will say is that Ascension is absolutely correct: the guitar-playing on this is top-notch (whoever is actually playing). It's not Frank Zappa, of course... I don't understand why 15 would even make such a comparison rather than, say, Catfish Collins or David Williams even. I dig it, because I generally prefer rhythm guitarists to lead guitarists anyway.

>I got the record Sunday afternoon. I have listened to it 3
>times and I am still digesting it. It's a bit hard to listen
>to it "naked," free of all the misleading hype from the likes
>of 15 and fireOK but I think I have been able to block out
>those voices.

I'm curious why that would be so hard for you to do. I would think you should be able to judge music on its own merits.

I think it's telling that you find it difficult not to do that, being that you pride yourself on giving commentary about music. A person who does that...you know it should be automatic.... done without any effort at all to judge something based upon its own merits and not what others have said...

that's pretty telling 'kap...

>I'm curious why that would be so hard for you to do. I would
>think you should be able to judge music on its own merits.

As human beings, we are ALL influenced by things that we see, hear, taste, touch, etc.

The human brain is so suggestible that simple leading questions can be used to create entire false memories in people's minds.

It's not about being "weak-minded" or "strong-willed"... That is simply the way the brain works. Anybody who claims his brain works differently from that is deceiving himself.

Unless of course, he has worked hard to insulate himself and reject all outside stimulus, maybe by using a sensory-deprivation tank.

Now, when ?uest says D plays guitar like Frank Zappa you have to know that I didn't take that seriously for even one second. Even without listening to D'Angelo play one note, I already know it is highly unlikely that D is going to achieve Frank's one-in-a-million singular talent in five years.

Still... that statement is has entered my head, and it will influence me in one way or another--negatively or positively--when I am listening to D's guitar playing.

When you have all these people in D's camp talking about how "futuristic" his new music is.. I don't take it seriously either because I know D's influences and in recent interviews, he's still talking about the same influences he was talking about 17 years ago. So yeah... I expect it to be more or less the same sound.

But that statement is still already in my head, and it affects me.

There is NO such thing as "listening to music on its own terms." It doesn't exist. Every piece of music, every piece of art has a context in which it is evaluated. It is patently impossible to listen to music without some social influence shaping the way you receive it (in your case, I reckon that social influence would be something along the lines of "He is doing something nobody else is doing today, and for that alone he must be praised." That's not "listening to music on its own terms"... just so you know. You are just as influenced by contextual factors as anybody else)

I hope I have been able to explain this sufficiently, but Coolidge, I am pretty sure you will still go out of your way to misinterpret it. Still, I beg you to find it in your heart to do me one small favor:

Do not try to extend this conversation with me, as you will find no reply forthcoming. I have neither the time nor the desire to get into a drawn-out thing with you right now so please... don't even bother.

Just enjoy the record and leave me be.

Thanks!

>>I'm curious why that would be so hard for you to do. I
>would
>>think you should be able to judge music on its own merits.
>
>As human beings, we are ALL influenced by things that we see,
>hear, taste, touch, etc.
>
>The human brain is so suggestible that simple leading
>questions can be used to create entire false memories in
>people's minds.
>
>It's not about being "weak-minded" or "strong-willed"... That
>is simply the way the brain works. Anybody who claims his
>brain works differently from that is deceiving himself.


you are correct here...but humans can reach a level where they utilize their own CHOICE on how to judge something. People can make the efforts to be subjective or objective. We have the ability to control that, and usually when we have jobs or are in situations that require us to do so, we do it because it's the right thing to do.




>
>Unless of course, he has worked hard to insulate himself and
>reject all outside stimulus, maybe by using a
>sensory-deprivation tank.

these things are not mutually exclusive...you can be immersed in other people's opinions, yet have a strong hold or your own views...and put that into practice when you are analyzing something. Other people's opinions of something only have as much power over us as we are willing to give.





>Now, when ?uest says D plays guitar like Frank Zappa you have
>to know that I didn't take that seriously for even one second.
>Even without listening to D'Angelo play one note, I already
>know it is highly unlikely that D is going to achieve his
>one-in-a-million singular talent in five years.


If you chose to ignore all that was said about the album before you heard it..you could do that. It's not about having a weak or strong mind..it's about YOUR priorities.....YOUR intention to judge something on it's own merits or not...

when I purchased this album...what ANYONE had said about it was nowhere in my mind. Why would it be?


>
>Still... that statement is has entered my head, and it will
>influence me in one way or another--negatively or
>positively--when I am listening to D's guitar playing.


again.... it's in your mind now because you've decided you want it to be there. And thus, you have decided not to judge the music on it's merits...

and I appreciate your honesty with that...and I'm not being critical of your priorities at all...

I'm just saying that your choice to place so much value on what other's have said about a record impacts how YOU view the record.

I would say that's part of why there have been so many exchanges with you about music because you are "debating" what someone else thinks of something instead of supporting what YOU think of it.



>When you have all these people in D's camp talking about how
>"futuristic" his new music is.. I don't take it seriously
>either because I know D's influences and in recent interviews,
>he's still talking about the same influences he was talking
>about 17 years ago. So yeah... I expect it to be more or less
>the same sound.


again.... what difference does it make what they said about it?

again..not saying your are weak minded....not at all... But I think it's a bit misleading to claim to be speaking about an album based on it's merits, when you're really just countering what others said about the album before it came out.

that type of analyzing seems less than authentic...

it's more about other people than about the record itself.

thus you get into debates that turn personal.... YOU have made it personal and not about the music.


>
>But that statement is still already in my head, and it affects
>me.

it may be in your head...but you have the ability to NOT let that impact how you view an album..

what other people say about music shouldn't mean so much to you..

of all people you because you have your own taste in music..and you view yourself as an expert in certain areas....if there is anyone who should not be considering what others say about a piece of music it should be you.


>
>There is NO such thing as "listening to music on its own
>terms."

uh..yeah it is. Most people I know do it....


It doesn't exist. Every piece of music, every piece of
>art has a context in which it is evaluated.

that context is based upon whichever priority the listener has decided to utilize..

it's a choice they have made.


It is patently
>impossible to listen to music without some social influence
>shaping the way you receive it (in your case, I reckon that
>social influence would be something along the lines of "He is
>doing something nobody else is doing today, and for that alone
>he must be praised." That's not "listening to music on its own
>terms"... just so you know. You are just as influenced by
>contextual factors as anybody else)

again....you couldn't be more off base...which is why you shouldn't even be considering what my priority is with the release.... other than the fact that it's wrong....your opinions are based too much on what other's are saying.....



>
>I hope I have been able to explain this sufficiently, but
>Coolidge, I am pretty sure you will still go out of your way
>to misinterpret it. Still, I beg you to find it in your heart
>to do me one small favor:
>
>Do not try to extend this conversation with me, as you will
>find no reply forthcoming. I have neither the time nor the
>desire to get into a drawn-out thing with you right now so
>please... don't even bother.
>
>Just enjoy the record and leave me be.
>
>Thanks!


just makes sure you point out that what you say about the record is based upon what others said about it before it came out..and not about the record.... if that's what you choose to have as a priority..the debate should be person-to-person, and not looked at as a analysis of the record...

which by the way is really good.....

you'd probably dig it if you gave it a chance....

best wishes to you man....

sheesh.

>I probably will not be commenting on the album, though. (Not
>here, anyway.)
>


you better stfu with that nonsense and come with it

Because at this point, a new record by D'Angelo is kinda like watching a dog play the piano.

It's kinda irrelevant to critique how well the dog is or isn't playing... The headline is the fact that the dog is playing at all, y'know?

>Because at this point, a new record by D'Angelo is kinda like
>watching a dog play the piano.
>
>It's kinda irrelevant to critique how well the dog is or isn't
>playing... The headline is the fact that the dog is playing at
>all, y'know?

on the real, though... do you REALLY wanna hear from me?

Everybody is over the moon with ecstasy.... I'm actually enjoying watching how unified in joy everybody is, especially considering how bitter and spiteful this place usually is.

Why does it matter what I think? Just enjoy yourself lol

eat crow now that it's been released?

LOL

like: for what?

as if 14 yrs of absence and false-starts and false-promises and exaggerated hype didn't happen?

i mean, i'm excited as hell about the record being out and i'm glad i like it as much as i do. but i don't feel a smidge of guilt about my complaints about the annoying hype coming from the D'Fenders and the Others over the last 14 yrs. b/c it was some bullshit. LOL

Folks talking about "I TOLE you so!" like we didn't just wait almost 20 years... I mean, nobody doubted that he'd probably release music again *someday* but scheduling is definitely a relevant point.

And I find it interesting that you say this

>but i don't feel a smidge of
>guilt about my complaints about the annoying hype coming from
>the D'Fenders and the Others over the last 14 yrs. b/c it was
>some bullshit. LOL

oh wait... you said you DON'T.

I was about to say I feel you there, because I *do* kinda feel it... even though I know I shouldn't because, like you said, that was some bullshit.

>as if 14 yrs of absence and false-starts and false-promises
>and exaggerated hype didn't happen?
>
>i mean, i'm excited as hell about the record being out and i'm
>glad i like it as much as i do. but i don't feel a smidge of
>guilt about my complaints about the annoying hype coming from
>the D'Fenders and the Others over the last 14 yrs. b/c it was
>some bullshit. LOL

>eat crow now that it's been released?
>
>LOL
>
>like: for what?
>
>as if 14 yrs of absence and false-starts and false-promises
>and exaggerated hype didn't happen?
>
>i mean, i'm excited as hell about the record being out and i'm
>glad i like it as much as i do. but i don't feel a smidge of
>guilt about my complaints about the annoying hype coming from
>the D'Fenders and the Others over the last 14 yrs. b/c it was
>some bullshit. LOL

........what I wanted all along. The album. So,no crow on my damn plate lol !!!




>eat crow now that it's been released?
>
>LOL
>
>like: for what?
>
>as if 14 yrs of absence and false-starts and false-promises
>and exaggerated hype didn't happen?
>
>i mean, i'm excited as hell about the record being out and i'm
>glad i like it as much as i do. but i don't feel a smidge of
>guilt about my complaints about the annoying hype coming from
>the D'Fenders and the Others over the last 14 yrs. b/c it was
>some bullshit. LOL


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He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

>on the real, though... do you REALLY wanna hear from me?


No, but we all need some closure! lol

and actually yeah, I actually DO want to see your measured response(s)

I fully dont expect you to give it much praise just on general purposes of having 15 years of the hype AND battles over Dangelo with Warren, so it would be interested in how you finnagle a review, but would alsolike to see what you do like about the release


>Everybody is over the moon with ecstasy.... I'm actually
>enjoying watching how unified in joy everybody is, especially
>considering how bitter and spiteful this place usually is.
>
>Why does it matter what I think? Just enjoy yourself lol

I already stated why..Im not in ecstasy like the others, and it took a while for me to GET Voodoo so Im expecting this one to hit me even harder later

it doesnt truly matter what u think, but stop this coy shit "oh Im not going to say my thoughts on it here" bullshit after spending the better part of the past decade actually doing so

fucking prima donna shit I swear

Especially since you said that you're not necessarily mindblown yourself... I can understand why you would want to hear from someone like me lol

I'll speak more about it later then... for now I will say that it is (mostly) an enjoyable listen but it's not mindblowing for me.

I feel some lessons have been learned over the past 15 years... there's a few points of growth over Voodoo (better harmonies and melodies, more efforts to deliver a lead voice instrumentally, fewer attempts at "Funk"). There are also some problems which have remained doggedly unaddressed (reliance on overproduction to disguise anemic songwriting, etc).

As a whole, though... the thing that is bugging me most is that apart from Another Life, I find it emotionally remote. I have my theories as to why, but I'll save that for later too.

(Unless you really wanna hear it now... but for real, I'm really digging how happy everybody is and I take no pleasure in being the guy who walks into the party when everybody's having fun and starts pointing out why the party's not really as fun as they think it is)

But it's a good album. Very good. Probably not a classic for the ages... but does it have to be?

>As a whole, though... the thing that is bugging me most is
>that apart from Another Life, I find it emotionally remote.

id be interested to hear your take on it but i just see it as dangelo being a technician, a craftsman more than the (western?) ideal of the artist as an individual with someone profound and personal to present to the world. or more than that, hes just a shy/reserved kind of personality, both as a person it seems and on record as a singer/musician. the sooner he/people accept that, the better i think. he doesnt have anything he wants to *say* or share with people, apart from a few political-ish messages, hes more interested in what they hear. its purely about the music, in and of itself, for the most part. so far, he hasnt ever seemed like much of a rick james, or a kanye. unless theres one waiting to come out, im not sure.

>I'm actually
>enjoying watching how unified in joy everybody is, especially
>considering how bitter and spiteful this place usually is.
>
>Why does it matter what I think? Just enjoy yourself lol

Only reason I chimed in at all was because I had posted last week and doubted this was even going to drop.

So as you said THAT really is the story here. Everything that has followed I would have expected had it just been 60 minutes of D farting.. and this is better than that.

>So as you said THAT really is the story here. Everything that
>has followed I would have expected had it just been 60 minutes
>of D farting.. and this is better than that.
>
>

at least...

all you got to do is insert the song titles...


lol..

just release it...folks waitin for that compare and contrast of songwriting prowess on this one v. those j.a.n.u.s. snippets..

lol..

really.

just quit.

over the last decade.... times when nobody on this board was even thinking about posting about D'Angelo... afkap would come out the woodworks rehashing D'hate that had been tired and played out 5 years at least before he would post it..

now he doesn't want to speak on it??? lolol..

miss me with that...

he doesn't have to respond.... not at all.... but he didn't have to waste people's time for all those years when D' wasn't releasing records either.....

so you should do what he's doing... ignore me...

you've probably noticed over the years that requests for Warren Coolidge by other posters not to speak on something haven't achieved it's desired goal...

so take note of what you're saying...and just let it go...

.

i saw Af respond to posts about D but i don't recall seeing him author one - at least not in the last 10 yrs or so. but memory of OKP isn't exhaustive - largely b/c i don't care.

if Af did that then you win. you're the superior one. everybody sees it. why keep harping on it?

just move the hell on. it'll make you look like the bigger person. to just let go of whatever y'all griped about for 14 yrs.

just move on and let go and never speak of it again. that's how you win. that's how you maintain your superiority. if you keep dragging this old, tired dead horse out for another beating you look like the fool.

just let go. sheesh.

the album is out now. you were right, he was wrong. you win. you got more hoes than him. you got more dick than him. congratulations.

>i saw Af respond to posts about D but i don't recall seeing
>him author one - at least not in the last 10 yrs or so. but
>memory of OKP isn't exhaustive - largely b/c i don't care.

and if you're trying to say that you don't recall afkap making any posts about d'angelo over the last decade than you are either purposely forgetful, or you don't know enough about this topic to be playing captain save em for him..

dude he just made a post a few months ago asking why people didn't agree with him that j.a.n.u.s. was a better songwriter than d'angelo...he posted soundcloud clips of #### as examples..

that post he authored within the last 6 months easy...





>if Af did that then you win. you're the superior one.
>everybody sees it. why keep harping on it?

nobody's trying to win or be superior to anyone...

again..you putting too much on this....

like I mentioned..there were times in the last decade where the ONLY person speaking on D'Angelo was afkap....

for him now to act like he's james brown getting escorted off the stage with a cap over his sholders by Freddie Ray is pretty funny to me..

again..not a judgement against afkap...have nothing against the guy at all..

but to bail out on a debate that he was the torch bearer about for years ..if I want to playfully jab at the guy about it...he nor you should have any problem with that...



>just move the hell on. it'll make you look like the bigger
>person. to just let go of whatever y'all griped about for 14
>yrs.


dude honestly... Who are you to tell Warren Coolidge to move on? lol. Honestly ..I don't need your approval to post, nor does your opinion of what I'm posting about matters...

the issue would be dead right now if you were trying to be the post monitor....

so let it go bruh...move on....


>just move on and let go and never speak of it again.


you're wasting your time man.....


you should understand that the likelihood of me continuing to speak on this is drastically increased by you asking me not to...lol You know that..you didn't just start posting here yesterday..

if you want me to stop..your best bet is to ignore the posts..

its' not that big a deal man..




that's
>how you win. that's how you maintain your superiority. if
>you keep dragging this old, tired dead horse out for another
>beating you look like the fool.
>
>just let go. sheesh.

tired dead horse???

dude..

you got this backwards man...

ain't nobody trying to win anything...


>
>the album is out now. you were right, he was wrong. you win.
> you got more hoes than him. you got more dick than him.
>congratulations.

dude..

it's not that serious....

It's a bit hard to listen
>to it "naked," free of all the misleading hype from the likes
>of 15 and fireOK but I think I have been able to block out
>those voices.


I pretty much knew what the reception would be though... came here to confirm after I was done with a full listen.

I'm happy they happy

>I'm happy they happy

As a music fan, it's just inspiring to see so many people this passionate about an album... I am not mad at all.

we gave up
she patiently waited
and now she got the last laugh because he stopped by to pay a visit

>

Since 1976

wanna put that shit on repeat all day

>

and it happened again w/'Another Life' and 'Betray My Heart'.

i'm not sure exactly why either. lol

no bullshit

me and my lady been going through some SHIT

i was in the computer lab at school, that shit came on, i brought it back, and the "your patient with me" line did some thing to my soul along with the harmony and doo wah

drove to her job, surprised her at work, and took her on a date

shieeet

been looking forward to it since I heard it from the Euro sets he did a couple years ago...

certainly wasn't disappointed..

has that Delfonics vibe to the music...

has a anthem vibe to it ya know....

Thanks Mr. Archer!

Bumpin in the STEREO:
Gladys Knight&The Pips
Toni/Babyface-L,M,&D
Abbey Lincoln-Wholly Earth
Dianne Reeves-Beautiful Life
La La-Self titled

I think it means something when you finish the album and throw it right back on. Not for further disection but because it was that good that you want to listen again.

Good work sir D. Didn't think you could pull it off.

not really.
i thought his albums were nice. but I never give then as much burn as
other folks did.

one of the problems i had was with how mellow d'angelo was.



but this?

the rock influence sorta gives this stuff some bite.
i really do love this album.
another life?

i mean damn.
i love the joint from the teaser, too.

i have no idea what he's saying on this record.
ask me if it matters.

it don't.

this is really really good.

http://www.metrolyrics.com/news-story-dangelo-black-messiah-lyrics-revealed.html

I will likely buy a physical copy as well.

Anxiously awaiting the tour, because I *still* haven't had a chance to see D play live yet (long story).

But truthfully I had almost the same experience I had with Voodoo

This seems like it might be cool
Ok this is taking a while to build
Oh this is the song huh
Zone out from boredom before the end

It's just clear now this cat ain't for me... and that's fine. I just need a dude that can take these type of ideas and sounds and wrap them around a good song that can stand up on it's own.. all the production stuff and mumbling for atmosphere may appeal to some but still comes off to me like a dude covering his weaknesses rather than going to a strength. I've been disappointed in Van Hunt for some of the same reasons.

But really I'm not here to argue because truth be told I'm not interested in dude enough at this point to even bother.

But props to him for getting this out there... and the explanation for the title is good enough I guess.. I don't buy it but then I don't have to.

you might grow to like it....

and that people are receiving it the way they are.



this all played out beautifully.



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is some magical shit tho!



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1000 deaths - here the Khalid Abdul Muhammad vocal sample works better. didn't like it in the teaser because of the combo of the album name and the source of the sample. i still think the album title and sample source are a questionable decision.
the track is dope tho.

the charade - this was the tune live and it doesn't disappoint here.

really love - i've been vibin to the demo for years... sounds a little overproduced now but i guess i'll warm up to it. anyone know where the spanish sample in the beginning is from / what it says?

tutu - this the shit people are anticipating from this dude...

prayer - has a prayer ever sounded that funky?


he really came thru after all. funny to see all the charter members to come out for this.
imo if you liked voodoo this is a perfect continuation. album's coherent. he has his own style that he pulls off really well. won't please everybody but who is?
as a fan you wish this would've been released with less delays. but i really dig that they finally kinda just dropped this out of the blue now.
on to the next one lol.

>prayer - has a prayer ever sounded that funky?

Everytime that song ends, I want that guitar solo to go longer and longer. I'm going to have to splurge for the expensive as hell ticket prices and see him perform the album live. I would imagine he will rock out in a live setting.

Hyped to hear this joint...gonna old school it, and wait to cop...One!

I really like

The Charade
Really Love
Back to The Future

from best buy. Good thing the price of oil is down. About to go riding with this joint...

I haven't heard it yet but still, 340 responses in a few days and it's not a Nas/Jay/Kanye/whatever record either and people are discussing music and being happy... Even if the album will suck, it's great to see...

tbh, i checked for the album at 6:00 AM
just to be a part of the fun.

we all like something together.
that makes me feel not so alone in the universe.

the second half, from really love onwards, is pretty much perfect.
its very much an album for an older demographic... which i guess is what you need these days to sell anything.
and it could really have been finished and just sat on all these years - if someone told me that was the case (though i know its not), i wouldnt be surprised.
its the neo soul/R&B equivalent to my bloody valentine's MBV in that sense, an album so mythical and long rumoured (though that one started in the 90s), that its hard to know where to place it exactly... like for all the things he said he didnt wanna be, hes actually still all those things on this record. its not an album that makes you see dangelo in a new way, it just confirms what we already knew, and maybe improves them a bit.
im glad its out though. it made my day a happier one lol.

Dope. Gotta give it some more spins.

Damn, looking at some of the names in here.. the funk is so strong it sent us into a...

*looks into camera*

#ThatSite Time Machine.

WHERE Y'ALL BEEN??? I NEEDED THE COMPANY.

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Yah, it's not the best record.

I think it sits well with some top-notch records. But this in no way surpasses some of Stevie's chief work or a myriad of others. I give it mad props and it is at least my favorite, but not the best record ever recorded. naw.

Why settle for less?

Now i just have to convince Jehan you aren't actually insane

jehan's pretty perceptive.

N/m

I was going to check tomorrow, but after hearing The Charade I went back out to the store tonight.

oR gEtTiNg hIs ToNgUe PiErCeD??

WTF.

play it and let it just ride.

this album feels perfect right now, i swear.

This is a great fucking record. Except for the first half of The Door.

But once track 3 hits, it never let's up

And I agree with you. The Charade is the first peak of the show.

i get he's trying to do funkadelic, but it's only a meh effort for me. track 3 is the first time i my jaw hit the ground, but far from the last.

Is there a release date for wax?

Highly doubt I can afford to cop what I'm sure will be expensive as fuck tickets, but I'm very curious how this record will translate when he tours for this album.

Black Messiah has arrived! #1 on iTunes in USA and 20 other markets!!!

D’Angelo’s surprise NEW album has reached #1 on iTunes in 20 markets thus far including
Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Greece, Japan, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, South Africa, Sweden, and Switzerland
Top 10 in an additional 16 markets such as
#2- France, Portugal
#4- UK
#5- Austria
#6- Germany

annonce Friday, get they hype out there, listening party Sunday so people assume its gonna leak soon then bam, drop the album on itunes that night. I wanted the physical but couldn't wait and was anxious so didn't even allow myself to wait for a leak, fuck it 10 bucks. haha first itunes purchase ever and I ain't mad.

would have been cool with a booklet but now he prob gets some people to buy twice to get the physical as well, I might be one of those dudes.

.

this album is absolutely stellar. it's been years since i couldn't tear myself away from listening to new music. i just can't wrap my brain around some of the explanations for the harsher commentary. it runs the gamut from "it's overproduced/it's smoke & mirrors/it's vapid" to flat out, "f*ck this sh*t and his mumbling ass". sometimes it seems as though people are peeved that it took as long as it did and they were expecting more. but alas, i chalk it up to differing tastes and what speaks to varying palates.

Till It's Done, Back to the Future, In Another Life, The Charade? man listen. i absolutely saw what they did there in incorporating some of the nuances of material used for his shows over the past couple of years and i so appreciate it. i'm in the lab. i can sit for hours and dissect every note and i'm enthralled to do it.

i'm like a fat kid with free run of a bakery after hours. can't say how much i adore this. i'm very pleased. BRAVO D', 15, Kendra (poetic lyrics), Q-Tip, Pino, Roy and anybody else who had anything to do with this!!! the thirst has been quenched. and if it took another 14 years to produce another one of these, i'd be right there. wish them all the success and recognition this album deserves. *curtsies* i'm out.

My goodness...

>My goodness...

The whole song just hits me (HUH!). I can't play it loud enough or enough times to get over it/past it. I can't move off of this song long enough to listen to the 2nd half of the album. And according to most, that's where this album really blows fans of it away!? Wow.

Really Love...this song is probably my favorite kind of D'Angelo song..the bluesy funk, the pace, the layered vocals, the way the song 'opens up' a little more every time you hear it again but still somehow keep you guessing because things don't happen when they are 'supposed to', AND YES...the way the vocals go from typical D'Lo 'I love the way this sounds BUT WHAT IS HE SAYING!?' to something that you digest and care about, etc. All of that.

My now-older ears are more trained to listen up, it is all the better. I loved Voodoo, but I rode around listening to it with the booklet in my passenger seat just in-case I needed to read what he was saying on 'The Root' again. It was around April before I had most of the lyrics down. That was my last year of college. And before OKP for me. I came here for Common after LWFC. And I still hear Voodoo and LWFC as cousins.

Towards the end when his D'Lo cooing/vamp stuff comes in almost out of nowhere on a bed of strings...get out of here! I just smile at this. This song is like sitting and clowning with an old friend who is back up on his feet after years of being off the scene going through some rough stuff. I'm overjoyed and borderline emotional about this album showing up after all this time. Forget borderline...I'm just happy about this thing existing after all this time. Voodoo/LWFC ran my music-listening life for a good while.

I did a good job of 'ignoring' D'Angelo news, snippets, and songs once it become clear to me that he wasn't coming back for a while if ever. I kinda sorta heard Really Love in 2009, but I didn't get into it because I wanted the finished thing whenever that was. And wow...

And the hint around about an album on Friday --> drop the album Sunday night was the right way to do it. Honestly, we live in a world where almost no one should be bringing up a 'finna be' album until it is done/coming soon (ie: less than 2 weeks). That sitting around for a year or more OR dealing with delays and shenanigans is bull (looks to Detox if I thought it was coming). And yeah, I'm bringing that up in a D'Angelo thread. Where else?

I'm gonna write a(nother) super long thing about this actual album once I'm ready. Activate M50x...

so gorgeous and perfectly used. after listening to the quest leak for so long, i appreciate how well the fleshed out the song. doesn't sound overproduced in my opinion.

I agree.

I kind of wish I never heard the bootleg but then on the other hand having heard the bootleg and then the fully mastered version you can just appreciate the sheer beauty of this song.

I used to say this about "The Root" but "Really Love" could be the most beautiful song that I ever heard.

Peace,

Nij

I can see this record influencing a generation of new musicians in the way that Riot did
Which would mean his purpose in this world isn't to be the next ______
But to influence the next ______

like really...

kind of stuck on that one right now..

has a Junie Morrison vibe to ...like When we do era Junie..


real cool...


and I mean..

"if you're wondering...about the shape I'm in ..I hope it ain't my abdomen...that you're referring to.."

lol..


right...own it man...

fukk it...

This album is amazing. I've already bought it twice!

One of the things that really stands out when listening to it is how much time they must have spent on this in the studio.

First because of the overall sound - all the layered vocals and instruments (specifically the guitars, Roy's horn parts, and all of the keyboard instruments) had to take forever to track. Voodoo had the sound of a jam session - a bunch of musicians playing together and basically just recording everything and pulling out some tracks. But this record sounds like they were painstakingly tracking everything and separately layering it. Must have been a BEAST to mix and master it.

The second reason is when listening to the album you can tell that Russell Elevado and Quest and them were telling the truth for all these years when they'd be talking about "just left the Studio with D", and "album's almost done" (telling the truth about all the time working on the album, not the hyperbole with comparisons to Zappa and such.)

So who paid for all that time? Was RCA footing the bill year after year for it, without knowing if D would ever actually deliver the record? Meanwhile the entire industry shifted and people really weren't making albums with this kind of budget. I'd love to know how much was spent on making the album...even the biggest mainstream pop acts who are still doing platinum numbers aren't spending this much $$$. What kind of pressure were they giving him about getting it out there so they could start recouping on their investment?

Today is about that one and 1000 Deaths.

Apparently I've played Another Life 23 times since Sunday night. Lol. So I might chill on that one.

... I plan on stopping by Park Ave CDs to get a physical.

professional writers will have a hard time reviewing this album, because
it's hard to write about it without sounding like you're talking out of your ass.

part of this is questlove's fault. quest is a low key genius when it comes
to creating a mythology. when he was struggling to blow up in the early days with the roots, he made sure that other alternative black artists got signed to his label.
partly because that's what good friends do. but mostly because he knew that
ppl like to like things that are part of a movement.

you don't like the temptations-- you like the Motown sound.
you don't like prince-- it's the Minneapolis sound.
we're not just the roots-- we're a collective. this is a neo soul movement.

knowing that questlove is always picturing his own Wikipedia page even as he
lives his life, it's hard not to think that his constant diefication of dangelo was
questlove playing a long game of chess.

"yeah d'angelo is a beast on guitar now. he's on that Eddie hazel shit."

i laughed when he said that, because the statement is ridiculous on it's face.
but it's like quest telling us not to picture a purple polar bear.
now that i have heard the album-- it's impossible not to think of Eddie hazel.
which makes me skeptical of my own thoughts when i say that this album does remind me of a lot of my favorite legends. quest planted the idea in my head that d'angelo was capable of this type of material.

and although I've only heard the album 6 times... i can't shake the feeling that this album might be a work of genius that will be go down in the ages
as one of the all time great albums.


I'm going to center my review around the album closer-- "another life,"
because that's the song that i feel is most likely to
still sound brilliant after the excitement of a long awaited album wears off
and all we have is the material itself.

"another life" is a brilliant record.
it has the soul of so many brilliant influences in its DNA.

the first thing you hear is the Philly sound influence.
think back to how you feel when you hear the opening notes to "you make me feel brand new". The sound of that harpisichord is so pure
it makes you believe in the goofy parts of being in love.

D'angelo captures that. But this is more than a throwback record.
D'angelo also digs into the prince well by stacking the vocals so thick
and putting a jolt of sex appeal in this record. The stylistics were asexual and pure.
"another life" captures the purity but also let's you know he also wants to kiss you in the
"places that please."

That line isn't shock value or prurient for the sake of it.
He believes sex would be magical as the opening harpisichord on "you make me feel brand new." It would be a true consummation. The ethereal aspects of love
firmly grounded in the bodies actually touching each other.

This isn't a fantasy-- it's a dream come to life.


Then there's the mystical aspect of it. He loves this woman so completely that
he wants to take her to the hidden aspects of his psyche.
exploring all the rooms in his mind that normally stay locked.

and just when he's laid out a perfect picture,
the hook comes in and stabs you in the chest.
it's not quite to be. "in another life," he happily laments to himself.
"i bet you wouldn't know." he smiles to himself because the dreams he has of this love affair is like some inside joke she hasn't quite gotten yet.

this is beautiful, heartbreaking stuff.



but let's be clear-- some of what i hear in this album may be quest overhyping it.
the myth is that this genius has been slaving away in the studio, cooking up something that's 10 years ahead of its time. He's been studying p-funk and Beatles albums.

because i heard that myth, i listen to the album and search for references.
and the truth is, i can hear them.

various guitar effects sound like they were recorded under water.
the you focus on one guitar lick and get lost in it and then realize that there
is another counter melody going at the same time that's equally good
and you think, when is the last time i've heard this much going on in a record.
and now-- without realizing it-- you're thinking of p-funk's "motor booty affair."

dammit quest.

is that actually there, or did you make me imagine it?




i want to talk about the engineering on this record. so many nuances.
for instance-- another song that will likely stand the test of time is "the charade."
there's a handclap that comes in in the down-beat of every fourth measure.

the handclap is so perfect there, it really adds to the groove.
but what adds to the mystery of this album is that the hand clap doesn't just clap on the fourth measure. they used some effect so that it sounds like something is zooming in, whizzing by like a slow bullet, and then the impact is that hand clap on the fourth measure.

the hand clap is so perfect, but the fact that the sound started 3 beats back before landing on that down beat makes it seem that every aspect of this album
was planned. every sound you hear is everything fitting in it's right place.

if funk is all about the one, putting a handclap there instead of a bass
is a subtle subversion of the essence of funk.
d'anglelo's funk always was more subtly disquieting rather than
knocking your ass off with a groove.

this album feels like he broke funk down under a microscope
and then rebuilt it. he was always subtle, but he went inside of that subtlety and added more sonic detail.

the ride cymbals ring out forever.
you can hear every nuance of every snare drum.
this album has more information in it than "Paul's Boutique."
it could take a decade to hear everything they put into it.
(wait... I'm just repeating what is heard questlove say, aren't i?)


this album is impossible to process.



so what's my view of the album.
we know what quest built a myth of d'anglelo...
and in order for this album to be a success, it had to validate the myth.

does it succeed at that?



maybe it's just old questlove interviews talking, but i say the answer is yes.
this album validates the myth.
there is enough here that ppl that already believe will be able to sink their ears into this one for another 10 years.

if questlove wanted to make sure this album lives, he did a perfect job.
dropping an album called "black messiah" at Christmas time,
when racial anxiety is boiling over in the backdrop of fergesun and garner...
that will make this album connect with listeners long after the initial press has worn off.

and while it's impossible to know whether I'd place this album on the list of greats
if quest didn't plant the idea in my head for a decade...
the fact is he did. and then he delivered an album that is so solid that
it doesn't make me scoff at the idea.

quest created the myth, and the album doesn't break the trance.

and really, maybe that's what music is missing these days.
we need more than just the tunes. we also need something to believe in.
is dangelo that guy?

well, no.
i don't believe in dangelo as the savior of black music.
apparently, neither does dangelo.

but i do believe in this album.

hype or no hype, this music is something music lovers have needed for a very long time.


A+

all of this.

Thanks..stuff like this helps me work through my digestion process on this album. Excellent.

>professional writers will have a hard time reviewing this
>album, because
>it's hard to write about it without sounding like you're
>talking out of your ass.
>
>part of this is questlove's fault. quest is a low key genius
>when it comes
>to creating a mythology. when he was struggling to blow up in
>the early days with the roots, he made sure that other
>alternative black artists got signed to his label.
>partly because that's what good friends do. but mostly because
>he knew that
>ppl like to like things that are part of a movement.
>
>you don't like the temptations-- you like the Motown sound.
>you don't like prince-- it's the Minneapolis sound.
>we're not just the roots-- we're a collective. this is a neo
>soul movement.
>
>knowing that questlove is always picturing his own Wikipedia
>page even as he
>lives his life, it's hard not to think that his constant
>diefication of dangelo was
>questlove playing a long game of chess.
>
>"yeah d'angelo is a beast on guitar now. he's on that Eddie
>hazel shit."
>
>i laughed when he said that, because the statement is
>ridiculous on it's face.
>but it's like quest telling us not to picture a purple polar
>bear.
>now that i have heard the album-- it's impossible not to think
>of Eddie hazel.
>which makes me skeptical of my own thoughts when i say that
>this album does remind me of a lot of my favorite legends.
>quest planted the idea in my head that d'angelo was capable of
>this type of material.
>
>and although I've only heard the album 6 times... i can't
>shake the feeling that this album might be a work of genius
>that will be go down in the ages
>as one of the all time great albums.
>
>
>I'm going to center my review around the album closer--
>"another life,"
>because that's the song that i feel is most likely to
>still sound brilliant after the excitement of a long awaited
>album wears off
>and all we have is the material itself.
>
>"another life" is a brilliant record.
>it has the soul of so many brilliant influences in its DNA.
>
>the first thing you hear is the Philly sound influence.
>think back to how you feel when you hear the opening notes to
>"you make me feel brand new". The sound of that harpisichord
>is so pure
>it makes you believe in the goofy parts of being in love.
>
>D'angelo captures that. But this is more than a throwback
>record.
>D'angelo also digs into the prince well by stacking the vocals
>so thick
>and putting a jolt of sex appeal in this record. The
>stylistics were asexual and pure.
>"another life" captures the purity but also let's you know he
>also wants to kiss you in the
>"places that please."
>
>That line isn't shock value or prurient for the sake of it.
>He believes sex would be magical as the opening harpisichord
>on "you make me feel brand new." It would be a true
>consummation. The ethereal aspects of love
>firmly grounded in the bodies actually touching each other.
>
>This isn't a fantasy-- it's a dream come to life.
>
>
>Then there's the mystical aspect of it. He loves this woman so
>completely that
>he wants to take her to the hidden aspects of his psyche.
>exploring all the rooms in his mind that normally stay locked.
>
>
>and just when he's laid out a perfect picture,
>the hook comes in and stabs you in the chest.
>it's not quite to be. "in another life," he happily laments to
>himself.
>"i bet you wouldn't know." he smiles to himself because the
>dreams he has of this love affair is like some inside joke she
>hasn't quite gotten yet.
>
>this is beautiful, heartbreaking stuff.
>
>
>
>but let's be clear-- some of what i hear in this album may be
>quest overhyping it.
>the myth is that this genius has been slaving away in the
>studio, cooking up something that's 10 years ahead of its
>time. He's been studying p-funk and Beatles albums.
>
>because i heard that myth, i listen to the album and search
>for references.
>and the truth is, i can hear them.
>
>various guitar effects sound like they were recorded under
>water.
>the you focus on one guitar lick and get lost in it and then
>realize that there
>is another counter melody going at the same time that's
>equally good
>and you think, when is the last time i've heard this much
>going on in a record.
>and now-- without realizing it-- you're thinking of p-funk's
>"motor booty affair."
>
>dammit quest.
>
>is that actually there, or did you make me imagine it?
>
>
>
>
>i want to talk about the engineering on this record. so many
>nuances.
>for instance-- another song that will likely stand the test of
>time is "the charade."
>there's a handclap that comes in in the down-beat of every
>fourth measure.
>
>the handclap is so perfect there, it really adds to the
>groove.
>but what adds to the mystery of this album is that the hand
>clap doesn't just clap on the fourth measure. they used some
>effect so that it sounds like something is zooming in,
>whizzing by like a slow bullet, and then the impact is that
>hand clap on the fourth measure.
>
>the hand clap is so perfect, but the fact that the sound
>started 3 beats back before landing on that down beat makes it
>seem that every aspect of this album
>was planned. every sound you hear is everything fitting in
>it's right place.
>
>if funk is all about the one, putting a handclap there instead
>of a bass
>is a subtle subversion of the essence of funk.
>d'anglelo's funk always was more subtly disquieting rather
>than
>knocking your ass off with a groove.
>
>this album feels like he broke funk down under a microscope
>and then rebuilt it. he was always subtle, but he went inside
>of that subtlety and added more sonic detail.
>
>the ride cymbals ring out forever.
>you can hear every nuance of every snare drum.
>this album has more information in it than "Paul's Boutique."
>it could take a decade to hear everything they put into it.
>(wait... I'm just repeating what is heard questlove say,
>aren't i?)
>
>
>this album is impossible to process.
>
>
>
>so what's my view of the album.
>we know what quest built a myth of d'anglelo...
>and in order for this album to be a success, it had to
>validate the myth.
>
>does it succeed at that?
>
>
>
>maybe it's just old questlove interviews talking, but i say
>the answer is yes.
>this album validates the myth.
>there is enough here that ppl that already believe will be
>able to sink their ears into this one for another 10 years.
>
>if questlove wanted to make sure this album lives, he did a
>perfect job.
>dropping an album called "black messiah" at Christmas time,
>when racial anxiety is boiling over in the backdrop of
>fergesun and garner...
>that will make this album connect with listeners long after
>the initial press has worn off.
>
>and while it's impossible to know whether I'd place this album
>on the list of greats
>if quest didn't plant the idea in my head for a decade...
>the fact is he did. and then he delivered an album that is so
>solid that
>it doesn't make me scoff at the idea.
>
>quest created the myth, and the album doesn't break the
>trance.
>
>and really, maybe that's what music is missing these days.
>we need more than just the tunes. we also need something to
>believe in.
>is dangelo that guy?
>
>well, no.
>i don't believe in dangelo as the savior of black music.
>apparently, neither does dangelo.
>
>but i do believe in this album.
>
>hype or no hype, this music is something music lovers have
>needed for a very long time.
>
>
>A+
>

Loved this:
>this album has more information in it than "Paul's Boutique."

I've been thinking about that mythology that exists on this after going to work Monday and mentioning it was out two co-workers didn't seem to care. One doesn't really listen to soul, the other seemed to be more interested in Maxwell...which had me wondering how I'd feel if I wasn't on Okayplayer. I know I'd still dig it but would I be blaring it as loud to pick out details?

>Loved this:
>>this album has more information in it than "Paul's
>Boutique."
>
>I've been thinking about that mythology that exists on this
>after going to work Monday and mentioning it was out two
>co-workers didn't seem to care. One doesn't really listen to
>soul, the other seemed to be more interested in
>Maxwell...which had me wondering how I'd feel if I wasn't on
>Okayplayer. I know I'd still dig it but would I be blaring it
>as loud to pick out details?

I think you would. That's a big part of the 'D'Angelo thing' to me. Voodoo was some of that. And Quest spent a lot of time explaining things about that album here to expose/confirm that there was a lot going on with the album. And frankly, it spoiled me dramatically. It took me to a place where it almost 'ruined' 'easier' albums for me for a while. I had to get used to listening to the average jam/hit again.

I THINK I'm capable of processing lots more information now compared to 2000 and I'm still 'working through' this album, so I'm interested in the details now that this album exists. I was far less into the info before.

Thank you good sir

regarding ?uest creating the d'myth...

a lot of us believed that d'angelo was THE ONE before he and ?uest were even involved with one another.

"brown sugar" made that much of an impact. and in retrospect, that with "u will know"--HUGE HUGE project that was trusted with d'angelo (and his bro)'s songwriting.

matter of fact, my first roots album was "illadelph" solely because d'angelo was featured. (now, of course, i'm a total roots stan, but it all started cuz d'angelo)

and the only reason why i started coming 'round okp (99) was because of d'angelo.

?uest's praise of d'angelo--as well as praise from the likes of clapton and bb king--only verified my belief that d'angelo was the saviour. i felt that way back in 95.

That song is pure perfection.

---
If you release what is within u, what u release will save you. If you do not release what is within u, what u do not release will destroy u.

www.pitchblackgold.bandcamp.com

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/4672130/high-fidelity-it-s-really-fucking-good-o-s.gif

picked up the cd at Best Buy yesterday after a day of listening to the 256kbps iTunes joints, and put the AIFF's on my pod.

No contest. Highs are crisper, lows are smoother, you can really feel the space in the mix more. If you're like me and listen to most of your music on headphones on your commute, cop that CD!


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http://soundcloud.com/manic-choints/

www.twitter.com/itsmeManic

http://vimeo.com/mattferran

http://www.hdtracks.com/black-messiah-209416

never even seen this site before! this will be separating me from my money very soon.

now, onto comparing the hi-res 96/24 digi to the itunes...

I cosign this.
I copped the iTunes at midnight. Bumped it a bunch. Burned it to a CD, rode out to it.
Then went and copped the CD... put it in the whip.

No comparison! NIGHT AND DAY.
CD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itunes

peace,
6

I love it but it does seem less crisp than recent Roots albums. Amazon shipment can't come soon enough.

for the album to sound better. I'm barely wrapping my mind around individual songs and trying to put it all back together. But hell...to Best Buy I go. I gotta get this album for my parents anyway...

>picked up the cd at Best Buy yesterday after a day of
>listening to the 256kbps iTunes joints, and put the AIFF's on
>my pod.
>
>No contest. Highs are crisper, lows are smoother, you can
>really feel the space in the mix more. If you're like me
>and listen to most of your music on headphones on your
>commute, cop that CD!
>
>
>**************************************************
>
>http://soundcloud.com/manic-choints/
>
>www.twitter.com/itsmeManic
>
>http://vimeo.com/mattferran

I DL'd the MP3's from amazon for $10, but will a rip of the CD sound better?

are there lyrics in the CD credits booklet?

no.

>

pure excellence! This and the Diamond District remix album are gonna
ride me right into 2015 in style!

had to trek out to willyburg and cop @ roughtrade
he byke!
looking forward to the live show with jesse & kendra
missed the brooklyn bowl because of sell out, he canceled the summer outside show, so looking forward to his live return

have to let it marinate some more but

the charade
really love
prayer
another life
back to the future pt 1

are my favorites right now.

with this album. The existence. The excellence. The eventual but extended effort that had to go into this whenever they started/finished it. The repeated 'EEEEE' rhymes throughout Another Life piercing your ears awesomely. The ease with which D'Angelo earned whatever amount of 'forgiveness' I thought I was going to stubbornly hold over his head before this album hit my life Sunday night. The fact that everyone who has ever typed into these boxes on these boards is probably going to type SOMETHING about this album. It is THE album for this board, which I still love and thank to this day for a slew of discoveries and discussions...

The real, deep, and heavily nerdy Prince homage after years of hearing some occasional 'Prince-ish' falsetto and Fisher Price: My First Time Jacking Prince Ya'll type of stuff. The layers of sounds, vocals, drums, and bass. The strings where there's strings. The funk. The soul. The lyrics. The dedication to the delivery in the D'Angelo way. The growth, timing tricks, and changes of so many of the songs as they attack your comfort with how songs are supposed to go. Or maybe moreso an attack on how I've gotten used to how songs DON'T go anywhere because I've been listening to too many folks sing over 'beats' that basically don't change for 4 minutes.

If I wasn't such a dork, I'd be embarrassed about how much I like this album right now. I'll spare the outlandish superlatives I have in the chamber for this album after 'more than it should be in this amount of time' number of listens to the whole thing and half of the songs on individual repeat. I'm gonna try to not fall onto any of the words that we've ruined over the years here.

And since I listened to it with the lyrics in front of me, I pretty much know what he's saying on every song. And it is worth it for me. And yeah, that's not nothing as we all know.

I'm now failing to not hit back and relisten to Another Life. Its been roughly 30 minutes worth of listens in a row as I wrote this. When he vamp battles himself (High D'Lo vs Deep D'Lo) starting at around the 4:40 mark, I smile like a jackass because he gave me the classic 'blacking out at the end of a song and letting what you've been given come out of you however it comes out' thing that I love so much when gifted/talented enough people do it (think about the end of Try a Little Tenderness or Al Green singing Living For You on Soul Train).

This is grand. Have we ruined 'grand'? Can I say 'grand'? Okay...for now, let's go with grand. This album is *cuss words of your choice* grand.

Jimaveli

>on itunes
>
>Is this a teaser for the new album???
>
>http://youtu.be/oVsiVf_eSYE
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I want most of these jams to be twice as long and I wouldnt be mad

flows together. Perfect, concise sequencing of the album. Impressive given how rushed the album was put together according to the NY Times article regarding Black Messiah.

Glad it's doing numbers worldwide too!

Really Love
1000 Deaths (those drums and bass (Pino!)... Dilla dawg never dies)
Aint That Easy
Another Life
Back to the Future Pt. I
Til It's Done (Tutu)

have saved my fucn soul in these time socio-politically and personally, yes that deep...

Sugah Daddy (which is the accidental Purdie drumming Quest spoke of in that RBMA lecture)
The Charade
Break My Heart

are damn good as well

i think The Door is weak, and I don't know about Prayer. some times i dig it, other I skip it

S'posedly that bass on 1000 Deaths is all D'. I'm impressed honestly.

summertime, sweatin, sittin on the porch, whistling, sippin on lemonade, passin a blunt music lol

i don't doubt it growing on me

'The Door' and 'Prayer' have emerged as my least faves on the record. i haven't found myself repeating those (like 'Another Life') and i've skipped them a few times. but when i do listen to them i dig them just not as much as some of the other tracks (like 'Really Love' and '1000 Deaths').

it's off-putting at first....you don't know what to think of it then BAM!

>and I don't know about Prayer. some
>times i dig it, other I skip it

i'm not even religious, but it HIT ME hard yesterday--which was a day i'd been dreading all week.

that's all i got right now

>>and I don't know about Prayer. some
>>times i dig it, other I skip it
>
>i'm not even religious, but it HIT ME hard yesterday--which
>was a day i'd been dreading all week.
>
>
>
>


silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/17/arts/music/dangelos-black-messiah-was-released-in-a-rush.html?_r=0

interesting stuff...

After 3 years hiatus.

like, that guitar sound is straight from that album. weird.

on this record

Yeah, I pretty much love this, seriously. It's honestly some of the best music I've heard in a long time, in any genre. Incredible album!

..."Focus on the Past your ass will be has what" - Dre3000

Are they available anywhere online? I got the mp3, pre-ordered the vinyl. Not trying to buy the CD too.

Just bought it this morning. CD booklet is mostly just photos and song credits. Apparently the vinyl is the only one with the lyrics.

And is there a Nelson George forward? Don't you want to scan that for your friends?

Two months is just enough time to let the record soak in.

Headphones on, Really Love, Back to the Future (part I), Til Its Done, Betray My Heart, Another Life, on rotation.

They're back on Earth, I'm in nirvana.

14 years, worth the wait.

Fuck, this album's a treat. Like smelling a perfume from back in the day, it takes me back.

that one with all the prog shit on it.

i enjoyed that album, but at times it did seem "lost".

conversely, i'm really impressed at how d'angelo tried all these different explorative, guitar-driven, fuzzy, lush, jagged elements, but was able to execute it in a way that feels really coherent overall as an album (but still loose for feel).

amazed.

could very well be the best album ever recorded.

>that one with all the prog shit on it.
>
>i enjoyed that album, but at times it did seem "lost".
>
>conversely, i'm really impressed at how d'angelo tried all
>these different explorative, guitar-driven, fuzzy, lush,
>jagged elements, but was able to execute it in a way that
>feels really coherent overall as an album (but still loose for
>feel).
>
>amazed.
>
>could very well be the best album ever recorded.
>
>
>

It's definitely one of the greats. Rolling Stones magazine just gave it four stars. Somebody commented that, if U2 released this album, it would get six. I don't doubt.

>It's definitely one of the greats. Rolling Stones magazine
>just gave it four stars. Somebody commented that, if U2
>released this album, it would get six. I don't doubt.

haha! well at least it's good to know that d'angelo isn't squarely in RS' preferred "dad rock" zone.

>It's definitely one of the greats. Rolling Stones magazine
>just gave it four stars. Somebody commented that, if U2
>released this album, it would get six. I don't doubt.

Rolling Stone also gave Voodoo 3/5 stars, they called it unfocused and unabsorbing lol.

the Soul Menz tour....

First of all, I don't even know what you call this shit.........besides great.

What I do know is that I will never forget my first listen thru to this album, which was one of my more memorable musical listening experiences I've had in awhile listening to a new record.

I'd been sorta off the grid since Thursday, first up in the Redwoods in Sebastopol then the rest of the weekend in downtown SF for a Bachelor Party weekend with friends from home.

I vaguely saw mid-last-week that D'Angelo was putting out an album called 'Black Messiah' title alone almost seemed too funny/surreal for me to not think I had seen it in a dream or made that up in my head somehow.

Might have saw something else over the weekend on twitter, from someone I follow on here but never actually studied anything long enough for it to really register.

Sunday night doing the whole long-ass drive solo on I-5 from SF to LA after stopping off to watch the second half of the Eagle game, still nothing.

At some point around Paso Robles, the mundane-ness of the drive (about 380 miles on the same damn stretch of road with long portions of it just either farms or prisons), patches of thick fog and complete lack of other cars on the road had me feeling so exhausted that neck started to feel like a bobblehead trying to keep my head upright on it.

Shit, I gotta get off the road ASAP and at least take a damn nap.

Pull into a rest area, park and proceed to Lean Back like Fat Joe & Terror Squad.

Sleep for a couple hours on and off until we start getting into the 3 AM or so area.

I'm trying to dip back into Santa Monica by 6 AM so that I miss the morning rush hour, have time to get home, relax, shower and clean up before a 10 AM meeting that I can't miss.

Pound an energy drink, hop back on the road, somewhere around 4:45 gas looking a little low to maybe make the full go to LA, stop to gas up for the last time at some gas-station/subway/Jack-in-the-Box up in the mountains, the wind is whipping through me to a point I'm visibly shaking while some trucker on the other side of the pump looking at me and actually asking him 'son, you really that cold out here?!" while I'm trying to get the gas handle into the car with my teeth fucking chattering as I say "yeah!" in all sincerity.

For whatever reason when I got back in the car, I decide to type 'D'Angelo' into Spotify just to see, then there it is (Black Messiah) looking like it just got uploaded that morning.

You gotta be fucking kidding me.

I'm almost laughing thinking, 'WTF is happening on OKP right now with this shit?' or even 'has it been so long it might not even matter there anymore?'.

Felt like a kid discovering a Christmas present around the folks house that you were supposed to get years ago and weren't even sure was something you really cared about much anymore.

But there's no time to think long about that stuff or waste time investigating, I am after all trying to finish up the last bit of this mission.

Hop back on the exit to The 5, hit play on my iPhone and somewhere around the 30-second mark of "Ain't That Easy" when those Funkadelic vocals come in and soon I get that "oh shit" feeling, maybe I even said that to myself before turning up the volume a bit more and start pressing down on the gas pedal a bit harder.

WAZE, you just keep me posted on whether there's cops around, I gotta get home and this D is gonna help me do it.

All the circumstances leading up to that point were completely by accident but I tell you this.......there will never be any backdrop I can imagine for this dude re-entering my musical world than flying up, down, around mountains on a completely empty California Interstate Highway (save lines of trucks in the far lane I was blowing by on the left) with the sky gradually lightening up towards the dawn.

By "1000 Deaths" I'm wondering 'did I blow something on these speakers? Is this mixed right?' then turning up further only to discover moments of clarity in the sonic assault that let me know this was all by design.

At that point the road/sound/sky is almost making me feel as if inside my own videogame.

Then the beauty of "The Charade", which I had heard in grainy youtube footage earlier but was now sounding like the best Prince song P hasn't made in 25 years.

What the fuck is he even saying on most of these songs?

No idea.

Which Funkadelic, Prince or Voodoo track does this one or that one remind me of during this part?

No matter.

What song here can even remotely be sold as a single?

Who gives a fuck.

The face-scrunches, head bops, steering-column slaps and "WTF was that?-s' continued for the duration of the drive and took me home from around Castaic to the Wilshire Exit of the 405 in easily record time as I was 'travel-in-at-the-speed-of-light-en-in' without thought or care.

That 'Another Life' with the "Thank You For Talkin To Me Africa" style bass line that starts it and that funksetto D pulls out on the verse (maybe my favorite vocal moment in an album filled with great vocal moments, I might have even got a little cloudy-eyed for a second) and then the chorus being the perfect coda for the album along with my own re-entry into the real world on a Monday morning after a weekend of fun-filled madness.

As I pulled into my neighborhood with the album ending I just turned off the stereo altogether so nothing else could interrupt the memory of what I just heard.

It left me with that same feeling you'd get if you just landed on a plane at the end of a cross-country flight after seeing a movie you really didn't expect to be great and/or traveling by train then reading the last few satisfying pages just as you pulled into the station of your final destination.

That shit stays with you.......and you can carry through the rest of your day still kinda caught in that trance.

I walked into that meeting relaxed, feeling equipped with some extra little bit of something the rest of the folks in the room did not yet have and may not ever know.

By the time I walked out, smiles abounded and it seemed like they could even sense that in me.

For that morning alone, forevermore, I gotta say......Thank you, D.

I ain't gonna even act like I waited 15 years for this record, because I really stopped actively thinking about it or ever believing/caring whether it would ever come out so long ago that it just feels brand-new to me now........maybe even more than anything else since it seems sent from another dimension of time where we still sat and experienced albums like this.

But yeah, to echo what I saw Fire mention above, this album does indeed toss Voodoo down a long set of stairs.

^^^THE BAR HAS BEEN RAISED^^^

peace.

Good read. Appreciate that.

I enjoyed reading this. Listening to this album is an event.

And I'll disclose here since we're mostly geeked out over this album: I've been 'cloudy-eyed' 3 times over this album (so far):

- Really love: 'When you look at me, I open up instantly' with the way the strings wrap around the vocal. Probably the 4th listen..
- Really love: 'I'm not an easy man to overstand, you feel me. But girl you're patient with me. Doo Doo Wah, I'm in Really Love with You'. Right before this lyric, he pulled a timing trick by not going fully through with the 'I'm in Really Love with you'. He stopped it at 'Love' to go into the next line. Killed me. It was like my 8th listen to the song.
- The last 2 minutes of Another Life...the 12th time I listened to it and it was time for him to black out/vamp/whatever the end of a song is called when there's basically no new lyrics left but the singer 'brings it home' by saying the chorus a few more times with ad libs and general hollering and the instrumentation amps up even more to say 'hey...we're serious right now and you need to know for sure that if we were in another damn life, I totally bet that you wouldn't know AND/OR that you were my girl'.

Jimaveli

>First of all, I don't even know what you call this
>shit.........besides great.
>
>What I do know is that I will never forget my first listen
>thru to this album, which was one of my more memorable musical
>listening experiences I've had in awhile listening to a new
>record.
>
>I'd been sorta off the grid since Thursday, first up in the
>Redwoods in Sebastopol then the rest of the weekend in
>downtown SF for a Bachelor Party weekend with friends from
>home.
>
>I vaguely saw mid-last-week that D'Angelo was putting out an
>album called 'Black Messiah' title alone almost seemed too
>funny/surreal for me to not think I had seen it in a dream or
>made that up in my head somehow.
>
>Might have saw something else over the weekend on twitter,
>from someone I follow on here but never actually studied
>anything long enough for it to really register.
>
>Sunday night doing the whole long-ass drive solo on I-5 from
>SF to LA after stopping off to watch the second half of the
>Eagle game, still nothing.
>
>At some point around Paso Robles, the mundane-ness of the
>drive (about 380 miles on the same damn stretch of road with
>long portions of it just either farms or prisons), patches of
>thick fog and complete lack of other cars on the road had me
>feeling so exhausted that neck started to feel like a
>bobblehead trying to keep my head upright on it.
>
>Shit, I gotta get off the road ASAP and at least take a damn
>nap.
>
>Pull into a rest area, park and proceed to Lean Back like Fat
>Joe & Terror Squad.
>
>Sleep for a couple hours on and off until we start getting
>into the 3 AM or so area.
>
>I'm trying to dip back into Santa Monica by 6 AM so that I
>miss the morning rush hour, have time to get home, relax,
>shower and clean up before a 10 AM meeting that I can't miss.
>
>Pound an energy drink, hop back on the road, somewhere around
>4:45 gas looking a little low to maybe make the full go to LA,
>stop to gas up for the last time at some
>gas-station/subway/Jack-in-the-Box up in the mountains, the
>wind is whipping through me to a point I'm visibly shaking
>while some trucker on the other side of the pump looking at me
>and actually asking him 'son, you really that cold out here?!"
>while I'm trying to get the gas handle into the car with my
>teeth fucking chattering as I say "yeah!" in all sincerity.
>
>For whatever reason when I got back in the car, I decide to
>type 'D'Angelo' into Spotify just to see, then there it is
>(Black Messiah) looking like it just got uploaded that
>morning.
>
>You gotta be fucking kidding me.
>
>I'm almost laughing thinking, 'WTF is happening on OKP right
>now with this shit?' or even 'has it been so long it might not
>even matter there anymore?'.
>
>Felt like a kid discovering a Christmas present around the
>folks house that you were supposed to get years ago and
>weren't even sure was something you really cared about much
>anymore.
>
>But there's no time to think long about that stuff or waste
>time investigating, I am after all trying to finish up the
>last bit of this mission.
>
>Hop back on the exit to The 5, hit play on my iPhone and
>somewhere around the 30-second mark of "Ain't That Easy" when
>those Funkadelic vocals come in and soon I get that "oh shit"
>feeling, maybe I even said that to myself before turning up
>the volume a bit more and start pressing down on the gas pedal
>a bit harder.
>
>WAZE, you just keep me posted on whether there's cops around,
>I gotta get home and this D is gonna help me do it.
>
>All the circumstances leading up to that point were completely
>by accident but I tell you this.......there will never be any
>backdrop I can imagine for this dude re-entering my musical
>world than flying up, down, around mountains on a completely
>empty California Interstate Highway (save lines of trucks in
>the far lane I was blowing by on the left) with the sky
>gradually lightening up towards the dawn.
>
>By "1000 Deaths" I'm wondering 'did I blow something on these
>speakers? Is this mixed right?' then turning up further only
>to discover moments of clarity in the sonic assault that let
>me know this was all by design.
>
>At that point the road/sound/sky is almost making me feel as
>if inside my own videogame.
>
>Then the beauty of "The Charade", which I had heard in grainy
>youtube footage earlier but was now sounding like the best
>Prince song P hasn't made in 25 years.
>
>What the fuck is he even saying on most of these songs?
>
>No idea.
>
>Which Funkadelic, Prince or Voodoo track does this one or that
>one remind me of during this part?
>
>No matter.
>
>What song here can even remotely be sold as a single?
>
>Who gives a fuck.
>
>The face-scrunches, head bops, steering-column slaps and "WTF
>was that?-s' continued for the duration of the drive and took
>me home from around Castaic to the Wilshire Exit of the 405 in
>easily record time as I was
>'travel-in-at-the-speed-of-light-en-in' without thought or
>care.
>
>That 'Another Life' with the "Thank You For Talkin To Me
>Africa" style bass line that starts it and that funksetto D
>pulls out on the verse (maybe my favorite vocal moment in an
>album filled with great vocal moments, I might have even got a
>little cloudy-eyed for a second) and then the chorus being the
>perfect coda for the album along with my own re-entry into the
>real world on a Monday morning after a weekend of fun-filled
>madness.
>
>As I pulled into my neighborhood with the album ending I just
>turned off the stereo altogether so nothing else could
>interrupt the memory of what I just heard.
>
>It left me with that same feeling you'd get if you just landed
>on a plane at the end of a cross-country flight after seeing a
>movie you really didn't expect to be great and/or traveling by
>train then reading the last few satisfying pages just as you
>pulled into the station of your final destination.
>
>That shit stays with you.......and you can carry through the
>rest of your day still kinda caught in that trance.
>
>I walked into that meeting relaxed, feeling equipped with some
>extra little bit of something the rest of the folks in the
>room did not yet have and may not ever know.
>
>By the time I walked out, smiles abounded and it seemed like
>they could even sense that in me.
>
>For that morning alone, forevermore, I gotta say......Thank
>you, D.
>
>I ain't gonna even act like I waited 15 years for this record,
>because I really stopped actively thinking about it or ever
>believing/caring whether it would ever come out so long ago
>that it just feels brand-new to me now........maybe even more
>than anything else since it seems sent from another dimension
>of time where we still sat and experienced albums like this.
>
>But yeah, to echo what I saw Fire mention above, this album
>does indeed toss Voodoo down a long set of stairs.
>
>^^^THE BAR HAS BEEN RAISED^^^
>
>peace.

thank you!!

although I was on the 101 between Santa Rosa and San Jose

That seems to be common theme here, and possibly the best part of this album for me...
Headphones shine a serious light on the depth of the mix.
(I'm looking forward to hearing the actual cd.)

I'm still living with this album every chance I get, but in 2 days it has definitely made some progress. The guitar work is hands down the best thus far on his albums. Betray My Heart has some serious chops (and no I am not talking about chicken grease intro).
I feel in love with Ain't That Easy when I heard the live version.
Makes sense to me it's the first track. At first I didn't feel it measured up to the live version, but has grown on me...it's like it has multiple chapters in one track. Great song tho.
I'd like the know the various session players on each track, and especially the guitars used.

Really Love is good, very theatrical album.
The Door works for me finally after 5 listens.
Back To The Future is a terrible name.

I don't know much about the album lyrics, but the "songwriting" seems to be lacking, too much filler...I love vamps as much as the next guy, but that's when Grant Green is playing over them.

I don't want to speak to soon, but I think I'm disappointed.

It's hard to put into words but the whole soulquarian thing was so important to so many of us. When it disbanded and Dilla passed I felt like a part of me left too. And over the years my concern was not so much about D making another album but just "being okay" after everything he went through.

So hearing this album is more so a grateful experience than anything because I'm happy he is alive and well and also the spirit of Dilla, Tip and ?uest's involvement takes me back to a time when this "sound" was my soundtrack.

With that said, there is not much I can add to what has already been said about the music. Listening to it I went through a range of emotions, from shedding tears to having a huge smile on my face to the hard head nod. I mean the mix and drums on 1,000 deaths...really!?!. The nods to Prince on The Charade, again the drums on Till Its Done, I LOVED The Door instantly, Prayer is amazing, Another Life especially the vocals at the end I mean come on!

It was a beautiful experience hearing this today and like many have said I'm grateful it exists and we can all come together to enjoy it.

>It's hard to put into words but the whole soulquarian thing
>was so important to so many of us. When it disbanded and Dilla
>passed I felt like a part of me left too. And over the years
>my concern was not so much about D making another album but
>just "being okay" after everything he went through.
>
>So hearing this album is more so a grateful experience than
>anything because I'm happy he is alive and well and also the
>spirit of Dilla, Tip and ?uest's involvement takes me back to
>a time when this "sound" was my soundtrack.
>
>With that said, there is not much I can add to what has
>already been said about the music. Listening to it I went
>through a range of emotions, from shedding tears to having a
>huge smile on my face to the hard head nod.
>
>It was a beautiful experience hearing this today and like many
>have said I'm grateful it exists and we can all come together
>to enjoy it.

I concur. I'm glad you touched on this, as I think many of feel the same way. Regardless of what are opinions are of the various material.

>It's hard to put into words but the whole soulquarian thing
>was so important to so many of us. When it disbanded and Dilla
>passed I felt like a part of me left too. And over the years
>my concern was not so much about D making another album but
>just "being okay" after everything he went through.
>
>So hearing this album is more so a grateful experience than
>anything because I'm happy he is alive and well and also the
>spirit of Dilla, Tip and ?uest's involvement takes me back to
>a time when this "sound" was my soundtrack.
>
>With that said, there is not much I can add to what has
>already been said about the music. Listening to it I went
>through a range of emotions, from shedding tears to having a
>huge smile on my face to the hard head nod.
>
>It was a beautiful experience hearing this today and like many
>have said I'm grateful it exists and we can all come together
>to enjoy it.

I concur. I'm glad you touched on this, as I think many of feel the same way. Regardless of what are opinions are of the various material.

and that Black Messiah dropped…

The experience of hearing this album for the first time is something I will never forget. My jaw was hitting the floor, my face was scrunching up like dammnn!! I knew the album would be good, but this good? I couldn't believe my ears.

Like they say 'don't u miss the feeling music gave u back in the day?' Well I finally got that feeling back.

It's also great to see this place come alive. 500 posts!

as far as I'm concerned. Maybe they wanted a more conventional track to start the album.

and it doesn't work as well as track 2, side 1, IMO.

after having listened to the album about 20 times i'm right now listening to a playlist i made:

Ain't That Easy
Back To the Future Part 1
Sugah Daddy
Really Love
Prayer
1000 Deaths
The Charade
Till It's Done
Betray My Heart
The Door
BTTF 2
Another Life

...b/c i want to hear '1000 Deaths' as track 1, side 2.

That's an excellent ordering. I reserved the 3rd slot for Prayer but either way it's awesome.

>>>cut and pasted from ?uest's "up for an hour" post...

theme of "ain't that easy" speaks directly to his fans--all of us who stuck around for 15 years.

it's been printed everywhere, but my favorite line on the whole album is "i tell you this sincerely/i need the comfort of your lovin/to bring out the best in me." that shit makes me emotional. super poignant moment.

i'm glad he addressed "us" first, before he explored his own inner dialogue on "1000 deaths". "1000 deaths" is the most bad ass song on the album, but i think it woulda been a buzz kill to make that shit first.

>>>>cut and pasted from ?uest's "up for an hour" post...
>
>theme of "ain't that easy" speaks directly to his fans--all of
>us who stuck around for 15 years.
>
>it's been printed everywhere, but my favorite line on the
>whole album is "i tell you this sincerely/i need the comfort
>of your lovin/to bring out the best in me." that shit makes me
>emotional. super poignant moment.
>


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The way that the instrumentation simplifies during the crescendos...I mean, I don't think I've ever heard anything quite like this before. And as meticulously planned as it must have been, D makes it seem completely organic.

is more like mid 90s prince in 'rock' mode

>The way that the instrumentation simplifies during the
>crescendos...I mean, I don't think I've ever heard anything
>quite like this before. And as meticulously planned as it must
>have been, D makes it seem completely organic.

>

Is that it was rushed and pieced together at the last minute from analog recording material at the last minute, at least according to the NY Times article. The album sounds as if the mastering took a while to cobble and piece together, but to have to rush it out from analog material and for it to sound to seamlessly put together is pretty remarkable.