Anybody know?

(Anybody care?)

since she left that nigga her career has been a downward spiral, and finally Jiv said 3 Lp's of underperformance time to cut losses.

I really need to start taking notes lol
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in this Ciara saga.

For me, I know it's not because I wish Ciara ill in any way, but it's just that she seems to epitomize a certain era in the music business... and watching the downward trajectory of her career is like literally watching the music industry crumble.

If Ciara gets dropped, it becomes official that the Age of the Video Star is over.

(And I'm not sure what it means for Janet's future albums considering that Cici is cut from the Janet mold... probably nothing; Janet is trying to change her steez anyway)

Also, I guess Ciara is compelling because despite the fact that it's been clear to everybody that she's been in trouble the past few years, she insists on putting up the appearance that nothing is wrong and hasn't attempted to adapt to the changing market at all.

but she was more than a video star... let's not act like that girl didn't string together some classic or close to classic albums. Having one of the best producer teams ever while they were in their prime was huge. Ciara has basically rode the coattails of a couple singles for years now. Sooner or later her career was going to come to a stop just off the fact she hasn't released anything worth a damn since album #2.
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Janet was a video darling, video don't mean shit anymore, so to laugh at Ciara is foolish, Janet's success had more to do with her video than any talent she had, her stage show game was the beginning of the coregrapher plans out my whole show feel that Usher/Britney template.

If she was coming the same way now as she did in her prime. It's all about the songs and Janet had songs for days.
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>It's all about the songs and Janet had songs for days.

I don't have the depth of knowledge/experience wit her you guys do (my little sister at age 12 or so jamming to 'Nasty Boys' = hard to overcome), but it seems to me that over the past few years she's really refocusing her image on elegance, like she's setting out to conquer the Quiet Storm market instead of remaining a pop star.

I want to make a crack about dueting on standards with Rod Stewart. *shrug*

Long story sort I say she's a big enough star, and nipplegate is far enough behind her, that any declining video appeal is overcomeable with good marketing and material.

LOL

it's 1 reason i wasn't willing to drop $170 to see her upcoming concert.

i remember this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tr0G7TDIhM

I'm going to that damn show.

.. Let a nigga not hate too much and say I'd definitely holla.

on her new album... like literally...


www.twitter.com/spathegod

shit, she could have been in micMajestic's post

she's been selling sex since she got in the door.

is still about fucking.......and another form of selling sex, just this time in the 'look but dont touch' capacity>

now.

really though it was just that her new songs seem to lack any sort of memorable content.

I never really liked that song much though so maybe I'm the wrong person to comment on it.

I don't really consider Ciara to be much more of an act worth studying as anyone like Regina, Tiffany, Cathy Dennis, Ashanti or any other dance-pop or pop-r&b 'artist' of past generations.

Having said that, I haven't listen to her last 3 albums.

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a licky boom boom down

>Having said that, I haven't listen to her last 3 albums.

i BOUGHT her 2nd album. BOUGHT it. that was 2006, granted, the last year ppl bought albums. i actually liked it a lot.

but when she came back, she was just.....wack. trying too hard, being uninteresting & very generic. she waited too long to come out w/an album, and rihanna had completely crowded out the not-beyonce space for black pop chicks.

>but when she came back, she was just.....wack. trying too
>hard, being uninteresting & very generic. she waited too long
>to come out w/an album, and rihanna had completely crowded out
>the not-beyonce space for black pop chicks.

after her collabo with t-pain completely & utterly flopped, it just REEKED of desperation. collab w/JT, p-pop all over the video....it was just sad. & then even THAT was barely a hit. yet she doubled down on that on the next project w/"ride."

her career makes me yearn for the days when artists figured they couldn't make a career out of music, and when you did the "where are they now?" segments, they were off doing something COMPLETELY non-music related like being a lawyer or owning a light mfg company lol*. now folks jump through hoops to try to stretch that 15 minutes out for as long as possible.

*like on unsung, 1 of the members of heatwave (i think) left to become a stockbroker. really? that's unthinkable nowadays.

I think fucking 50cent really killed her career, He's like a virus at this point and she's infected.

i guess they couldn't shepherd two dancers who can't sing at the same time. triage dictated that they would concentrated on the one more likely to make them more money.

there's folks in here that own Ciara albums?

She hasn't made many enjoyable songs past that, but that was her peak.

in the same boat as Ashanti and both counted for a couple of years each and then went wood.

Ciara's albums went glad bag and Jive sent and Her Bow Wow with a Perm looking self packing See Ya!!

>Ciara's albums went glad bag and Jive sent and Her Bow Wow
>with a Perm looking self packing See Ya!!

but not by much.... that's actually a pretty good comparison
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Ciara had big hits, but she didn't have the album thang going for her as Ashanti. I mean Ashanti got 4 albums including a Christmas Album out before her ship sanked.

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Found a 2008 cut by Girlicious that Jazze Pha wrote and produced. I don't know if it was a single or whatever cuz I don't know who Girlicious is. But it reminded me of old Ciara.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLwcB2f-DSo

I saw that "Ride" video but the sound was off, what are her 3 best songs ?

You sound like you go to the club regularly... Even in France, I'm sure "Goodies" and 1,2 Step" at least must have gotten play, if nothing else...

I went to regular club like 5 times last year, well maybe more if I include the holidays but I barely discover any songs at the club, I've never asked my friends "what's that song they're playing ?". Maybe I heard one of her songs but I honestly can't remember. I couldn't hum or name one of her track to save my live. I know she's cute and a bit manish when she moves but that's all.

> I know she's cute and a bit manish when
>she moves but that's all.

LOL

"oh" featuring ludacris: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSYCI4K5qGM
"promise": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcGWy7xUZQE

Goodies...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtC92pzp5vw

1, 2 Step...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EcHjq1W8v4

First ever Greatest hits EP
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>First ever Greatest hits EP

LOL

>First ever Greatest hits EP

Fu-Schnickens & Shaq both have greatest hits releases.

Actually, Jive issues greatest hits for everyone. And we've yet to see Ciara's greatest hits, so maybe you're right.

even though the group only has 2 albums of material.

LOL @ that.

Cappadonna has a greatest hits as well.

I think Brandy has a double-disc length Anthology.

LOL

http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/114885625-greatest-hits

To be fair, I think (hope) it is only available digitally on sites like Itunes and Spotify but still...

>I think Brandy has a double-disc length Anthology.

LOL. i really, really loved the beat to "oh." i desperately wanted a rap remix to it with all ATL rappers, but that never came to be.

Im sure she has better songs than those, you know when you dig into those mainstream R&B artists you always find at least one gem. My fav on your list is promise. Goodies is alright, but I can't picture people really getting down on a song like this.

>Im sure she has better songs than those

'Promise' is her best song.

the best Ciara songs are:

I Run It
Promise
You Can Get It

...these stand head and shoulders above the rest. Amazing songs.

She made a "NIGGER" album and was released amongst giants. They( JIVE) wasn't fucking with that MJ album and then R.kelly as well. Plus Kanye and Nicki wiped they funk on the charts and Eminem still has his sperm on the charts. BET banned the video and the other video was too much like a mix of janet videography. Her album is hot but not over the top compared to the material relesed on the saame date. The sales goes to her team though and little to the label so that's the good thing. I think she's going on tour. I think she was done it took too long to record the album still this was her baby and the fanbase couldn't push the sales harder but it's going to sell for the long time. I'm sure she'll get signed to Def jam or Universal

http://sandrarose.com/images6/ciara_KFC.jpg

I found this yesterday, I hope it's a joke

http://tinyurl.com/5sjcc66

*sighs* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!


Kilt that bitch.

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the movie was produced in maybe 2008, yet never could quite make its way to even a DVD release, let alone theaters. now it's out on the net for anyone & everyone to see. she's having a BAD week.

LOL I gotta check that out

cuz for the longest the website didn't even have a trailer....yet i was determined to see it through to the bitter end lmao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Sj0MaBGy8

I wasn't convinced they had even shot a frame of film... Those exuberant blurbs were obviously referring to the show and not the theoretical movie.

LOL

>Those
>exuberant blurbs were obviously referring to the show and not
>the theoretical movie.

I need to grab the rest of the movie today....I REALLY wanna see if they tried to have Ciara act like she could actually sing. The young version of her character was ok. Pitchy.

I am glad I wasn't the only one who was mystified as to why this movie was even being made starring Ciara though.

i thought it was still languishing in pre-production, never to progress to actual production. b/c it was such a horrible idea. i figured the producers/lenders saw the light and were gonna let the project die.

the credits gave ciara a producer credit. they just couldn't close the loop.....not sure why they couldn't even get it out on DVD, b/c the part 1 i was watching last night was high-quality video. it seemed done.

amazing.

Just a few years ago, Ciara was the toast of the town. When you thought she was winning, you were all on her ass cheeks.

Now that she's slipped on the commerical front, you act like you were never on her in the first place.

I guess Rihanna or Nicki Minaj will face the same treatment in the a year or two when the media backs away from them and finds someone else younger, hotter and dumber to hype up.

b/c i don't remember many Lessonaires being on her jock when she came out.

as if posters in the lesson are giving them mad props, too. lol. i think he posted that on the wrong message board.

The fairweather adoration for Minaj and Rihanna is sickening to me. It's so fake. They only get love from OKP because they're current pop-media darlings. Not because they make great music. I expect that from Popjustice or TMZ but not a site of snarky, psuedo-intellectual music snobs.

When was anybody here praising Ciara? Or, for that matter, RIhanna or Nicki Minaj?

There's a couple of folks here and there who like their music okay, but hardly anybody who really rides for them.

Sure, posts about them do get a lot of attention because they're both attractive women. But I've not seen any overpowering adoration for their music.

I still call bullshit.

Go into GD right now.

There are motherfuckers (most of whom I suspect to be gay males) who were ready to bite my head off when I suggested that Nicki isn't all that. Or that her "achievements" aren't as impressive as they delude themselves in believing that they are.

Ditto with Rihanna.

They get tons of praise around these parts. Their only distractors are the types who turn their noses up at anything commercial. But since OKPs are so obsessed with an artist's record sales and level of fame, they may be in the minority.

(1) nobody in the lesson is riding hard for any of those people
(2) nobody in that GD post is riding for nicki minaj; they're calling out your lack of logical reasoning skills.
(3) you're a fucking idiot.

at people in general. Not OKP specifically, you dumb ass. READ next time.

And Nicki's fake ass gets kissed all over this site. You and the rest of her gay male bastion were ready to lynch me in one post over there when I pointed out that her "success" wasn't all that impressive. So, please STFU. And your posts show who the true idiot is. LOL.

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....there is now way ciara was ever built up like that smh....

must aint heard Evolution

Crush knocked too.

but if i were to choose songs by ciara that someone should hear -- the tippy-top of her output -- she gets 3 songs. most of the stuff on evolution is fun & cool, but forgettable.

She was poised to be the next urban pop star and she tried waaay too hard to just be a pop star. She lost the urban edge that made her dope. That and a whole album with The Dream wasn't a good idea...btw how the hell is dude still doing whole albums. He had bad results Ciara, Mariah, that wack ass Vanity Six clone group he tried to put together. Dude, must have a hell of an agent...but I digress. Bottom line, if she stayed in her lane then she would have been cool. She tried too hard to take it to the next level before she had a solid fanbase that would follow her.

but for a full length? His songwriting sucks. Beat-wise I think he does some interesting things but sometimes his steeze just seems like a forced combo of faux Prince, faux Kells and a whole lot of other stuff in between.

http://www.rap-up.com/2011/02/14/ciara-prays-for-label-to-release-her/


Shooting back at rumors that Jive Records had dropped Ciara from its roster, the R&B princess is telling her side of the story. In a Facebook post on her page, CiCi tells her fans that she has asked to be released from her contract with Jive after they failed to give her control over decisions regarding her past two albums. She explains that with her latest single “Gimmie That,” the label tried to prevent the track from getting play on the radio and that she had to fund its promotion out of her own pocket. Get the full scoop from Ciara herself.


This week the net has been a buzz of the rumor that I have been dropped from my label. At this point that rumor is false.. It is true that I have asked and I pray that my label will release me. I have had some great times and success with my label, but sometimes like all great things, its at that point where I feel we don’t share the same views on who I am as a artist. The past two albums have been very frustrating for me. At times there were songs I chose to lead a project and I was ignored! This project, I even tried to get Gimmie Dat started I spent tens of thousands of my own money only to hear the radio pds tell me my label didn’t want the song played. I even spent more than one hundred thousand dollars out of my pocket on the video to bring my vision to it and still no label support. I do understand that some labels are not financially supporting their artists and I have become one of them. You, my fans, know that I strive to do my best to deliver to my you the best songs and creative vision I possibly can. I’m dedicated to my music, performance and to my fans! I’ve tried to be a team player with the label only to have compromised what I truly believed.. And was not given the right opportunity to promote and inform my fans of the release of this album..I have so much of me as a artist I still want to give to the world and my fans. A release would allow me to go be creative with people who care and understand me as a artist. In a short time, I will be able to bring to you a new music energy and a visual excitement! Thank you so much for standing by me through the good, bad, and the confusion. I love you all.

Love Ciara

Moved out of Atlanta and tried to become the next Kardashian or Paris Hilton with a tiny dog and got LOST in the sauce. Bitch you black tho! They dont give a shit about u! She went out to L.A. and lost touch with the people. Good for her ass.

mainly because folks said "eh.....you look way sexier with clothes on"

I might have missed that...

a lot of ppl actually bought into said sexiness at that point. Those pics as I recall were all the rave and I believe it was about the time Promise dropped..