>Maybe i'm really bringing a lot of my own personal baggage and
>experiences to the conversation I know people like this in my
>real life, and their divorce from what the rest of American
>culture is doing shows up in things non-musical and they are
>often unable to connect/empathize with folks that don't share
>their specific proclivities...leading to a pretty insular
>life. This may or may not be the case with everyone here
>bigging up the "ipod lifestyle", not passing any judgment.

...except i'm passing a little judgment, i'll admit it. LOL

but yeah. i assume a certain amount of w/drawal from society wrapped around all of this in part b/c of my life experience and those i know. and it saddens me.