i thought i worked backwards when in fact everyone else is working backwards...write the song first and the put the music to it. yet another thing rap has turned wrong in music becuz in hip-hop, you usually write to the beat...but somewhere along the line...r&b started following that trend...and then mainstream rock.rap started to follow...and now everyone's fucked up. i agree, write a good damn song first and then complete the shit. cuz when you write to the beat...you just try to flow over it nicely and that limits what you can say and that's why so many artists talk about nothing.