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137837, are you sure about this?
Posted by The Damaja, Tue Oct-19-10 05:16 PM
>basically there is no way a white individual is going to make
>a change gon come...AND there is no way sam cooke is making
>that song without the context of the black experience at that
>time..basically ur fucking crazy lol..

i think you're greatly exaggerating
A Change Is Gonna Come is not really much different from say
The Way It Is by Bruce Hornsby, or many other songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NAGhiVqdg&feature=related
sure there's a few words in the lyrics that sort of give away what background Sam Cooke's from, but are you SURE you aren't perhaps building up the difference to be much more than it really is?

>to remove the social context from the music that was being
>made by blacks at differents points in time is ridiculous..to
>chop it up to PURE individual talent is negating the black
>experience...and thats from africa to america...i mean i get
>it, most whites, european and amerian emphasize the
>individual...most ethnicities that are of color emphasize the
>group dynamic...not mad at that, you jus need to realize that
>you cannot do away with the collective experience jus kuz u
>dont like it..

the collective experience doesn't make music
sure it influences individuals who make the music. they may even make music ABOUT their experience that others can relate to
but those others have got no creative stake in the process. nothing they personally did affected it

when i know i've done nothing to contribute to something, it's a pretty big clue to me that i aint got shit to do with it