and it's seemed to me that she was *the* hero of a lot of today's r&b chicks

on the flipside is mary j. blige?

did she grow up in the gospel choir tradition?

'cause when she first started, she was very rough. hell, she's flat on record. that in itself wouldn't seem to be a product of all that training that you and fire spoke on- and yet again (to me) it would seem that she *does* have a church influence in her voice.

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on the (ugh) idol singers- it's not so much vocal runs as vocal diarrhea. eff that.