His shows sell out nationwide, he rocks venues with 10,000 people. It's not like he has a crew of 50 people rapping along - he's got a huge fan base, and he is actually in GOAT discussions.

And it's not only that he "has" those types of songs - it's that he has those types of songs, they're dope, and that they're on the same albums as his hit singles and shit. Now maybe you don't like them, sure. That's fine. But if he's got those songs in his catalog, he's got critical acclaim for those songs, AND he's got crowds of 10,000 people rapping along to those songs, then there's a discussion there.

If you disagree with someone, that's fine. If you think Jay's songs of that type aren't dope, then that's a matter of opinion. But completely dismissing peoples' arguments as by saying that "that has nothing to do with this" and "nobody cares" is bullshit.