so I really don’t want to believe that you have this much trouble with simple comprehension.

>>I believe I said that I have no problem with singing about
>>love, but with the dull and uninspiring way that these R&B
>>niggas go about it, putting no kind of thought or texture
>>into any of their lyrics or music.
>
>It's a constant criticism you have...you reference artists
>who primirily sing about love as lacking nuts...or singing
>for b*tches......nobody's pulling this out of thin
>air...just looking at your words.

let’s see… when I introduced the whole “singing for the bitches” issue, who were the two artists I compared and contrasted? Maxwell and D’Angelo, right? I said Max sings for the bitches and D doesn’t. but don’t both of them sing about love? so why did I exonerate D’Angelo (or Otis Redding, for that matter)?

think, Warren. THINK © Lyn Collins

>>for years, you’ve been obsessed with the idea that Afkap
>>just hates love.
>
>not obsessed at all...just wondering why singing about it
>seems to draw attacks from you.

yet most of the music I champion has lyrics that are full of romantic love

THINK © Lyn Collins

>but that’s the farthest thing from the
>>truth. or maybe it’s my fault. maybe I’m not expressing my
>>ideas clearly. but then again, other people seem to have
>>caught the point.
>
>and many people have seen your consistent attacks upon
>artists that sing about love, and have drawn the same
>conclusion that I have drawn.

who? where? everybody else in this post seems to have cottoned on to the ideas in it okay

THINK © Lyn Collins

> so what’s YOUR problem? is it more
>>comfortable to just hold a preset idea about me rather than
>>listening to what I actually say at any given point?
>
>no..I've listened to your points...and have no problem
>pointing out the inconsistencies.

READ before you respond, okay?

>>I mean, I don't
>>>listen to the Neptunes production and here all sorts of
>>>influences from all sorts of sources.....
>>
>>I listen to “In Search of..” and I hear hard rock, 70s AM
>>pop, bossa nova and country. that ain’t enough for you?
>
>Neptunes Production is what I said...which is not limited to
>the Nerd project....I did see Pharrell doing a nice lip sync
>on some awards show last night....oh yeah...and the copy of
>in search of I had ...I didn't hear all of those things..but
>maybe I had a different version.

or maybe you just had a tin ear, or a limited frame of reference by which to understand all the things going on in that record. that would probably explain why you didn’t get it, actually.

>>Plus, I don't think
>>>it's easy to distinguish mainstream hip hop and R&B
>>>today...they are pretty much the same thing. There in lies
>>>the problem...
>>
>>I said this already
>
>right...only a couple of years after I had started making
>the point...but better late then never.

yeah, that was a REAL revolution by you, Warren! NOBODY ever thought that before you started trotting it out every chance you got on this board.

dude, even the R&B and Hip-Hop charts in Billboard magazine are combined. so don’t give your self too much credit for stating the frigging obvious.

>>>they listen to their peers. or maybe they
>>>>listen to gospel. they tend to be infatuated with other
>>>>singers. have you ever noticed how excited R&B singers get
>>>>when they hear all kinds of pointless melismatics and shit?
>>>
>>>uh...no...I've never noticed that.
>>
>>you don’t hang out with singers enough, or read/watch the
>>number of interviews with them that I do
>
>As I explained to you...if an artist wants to make it today
>they must fit into the hip hop/R&b format...there is no
>other mainstream alternative for them...so thus, they focus
>on doing that...focusing on classic sould or funk or even
>jazz is not condusive for maintaining a career
>today...unfortunately.

then they need to broaden their horizons. like I said in #24 (which you probably didn’t read) Jungle Brothers were able to find a home for themselves in the electronica circuit when hip-hop audiences abandoned them. Run-DMC decided to mine the rap-rock market. even in reggae, where dancehall rules now and no roots artist can get a hit, Horace Andy has kept his career alive by working with Massive Attack, the Congos and Israel Vibration have done similar things. prior to her new mainstream push, Kelis couldn’t get noticed in R&B circles, but she was still able to keep afloat by working in the dance music community

sometimes, you got to DIVERSIFY and find a new audience for yourself.

>>but what good is it to be able to “blow” when you haven’t
>>got any substantial music supporting it? I mean, take Faith
>>Evans… I’ve noticed that a lot of singers really idolize
>>her; she’s a singer’s singer despite the fact that she’s
>>never made a single memorable record.
>
>true....but the reason for that is something that you seem
>to finally be accepting...the lack of musicianship...real
>bands in Black music is why it's degenerated so.

it’s not the musicianship… it’s the songwriting. and the fact that Faith just isn’t that interesting as a singer even though she’s technically proficient. sometimes it takes more than just being a good musician… this is what I’ve been trying to knock into your head for years

>>3 (count ‘em) THREE young R&B singers have sampled him on
>>their records this summer alone. some of them sample him two
>>or three times on the same album. I think that shows you
>>something right there
>>
>
>yeah what it shows me is that for whatever reason...folks
>have discovered his 30 year old records, and they've decided
>to sample him...

well, that was my friggin’ point.