>>>>>dre:
>>>>>straight outta compton
>>>>>100 miles and runnin'
>>>>>niggaz4life
>>>>>the chronic
>>>>>doggystyle
>>>>>2001
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>rza:
>>>>>36 chambers
>>>>>only built 4 cuban linx
>>>>>liquid swordz
>>>>>ironman
>>>>>
>>>>>...and "sunshower" and "12 jewelz"...
>>>>>
>>>>>rza by a hair.
>>>>
>>>>>tical
>>>>>return
>>>>
>>>>not classics my dude
>>>
>>>bullshit. go back to 94-95. "bring the pain" "all i need"
>>>"shimmy" "brooklyn zoo"...fuck outta here!
>>
>>Tical and Return to the 36 Chambers were not classics. OB4CL
>&
>>Liquid Swords yes. y'all niggas are too generous with the
>>classic word
>
>whatever. talk to any person who came of age around 93-96 and
>they can tell you where they were when they first heard those
>albums and how it made them feel. "i was in my homie's car,
>getting high and he put that shit on...blew my mind!" that's
>classic.

i'm 34 so i was definitely around to hear the shit when it was first released. OB4CL & Liquid Swords got the approval stamp. Tical & Return to the 36 Chambers didn't. You were high that's why it blew your mind. K.I.M.

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>>>
>>>>
>>>>>supreme clientele (kinda-sorta...he and ghost co-produced
>>>>it)
>>>>
>>>>how can RZA get props for this album when he hardly
>>produced
>>>>any tracks on it?!!?!
>>>
>>>rza's involvement with "supreme" mirrors dre's involvement
>>in
>>>"2001" (scott storch and mel man) and "the chronic" (daz).
>>>other guys made/started the beats...rza and ghost finished
>>it
>>>and made it an album.
>>
>>not the same. Dre got actual production credits. RZA got
>>credit for two joints. shit is not the same
>
>"producer" is for the final product. any knucklehead with an
>mpc can make a beat. it's takes someone with vision to
>produce the song/album. both rza and dre have that
>vision...but they have two different work styles leading up to
>that final point (outsource v. diy). it just so happens that
>rza (with ghost) took a more dre-like role with "supreme"...to
>say that rza just "produced two beats" for that album is
>ludicrous. he threaded the whole project together! puffy
>ain't never touched a beat machine in his life, but look at
>how many "production credits" he got! it's not as cut and dry
>as you think it is.

look at all my other responses. i'm not arguing this bullshit anymore.

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