>>>>dre:
>>>>straight outta compton
>>>>100 miles and runnin'
>>>>niggaz4life
>>>>the chronic
>>>>doggystyle
>>>>2001
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>rza:
>>>>36 chambers
>>>>only built 4 cuban linx
>>>>liquid swordz
>>>>ironman
>>>>
>>>>...and "sunshower" and "12 jewelz"...
>>>>
>>>>rza by a hair.
>>>
>>>>tical
>>>>return
>>>
>>>not classics my dude
>>
>>bullshit. go back to 94-95. "bring the pain" "all i need"
>>"shimmy" "brooklyn zoo"...fuck outta here!
>
>Tical and Return to the 36 Chambers were not classics. OB4CL &
>Liquid Swords yes. y'all niggas are too generous with the
>classic word

whatever. talk to any person who came of age around 93-96 and they can tell you where they were when they first heard those albums and how it made them feel. "i was in my homie's car, getting high and he put that shit on...blew my mind!" that's classic.

>
>>
>>>
>>>>supreme clientele (kinda-sorta...he and ghost co-produced
>>>it)
>>>
>>>how can RZA get props for this album when he hardly
>produced
>>>any tracks on it?!!?!
>>
>>rza's involvement with "supreme" mirrors dre's involvement
>in
>>"2001" (scott storch and mel man) and "the chronic" (daz).
>>other guys made/started the beats...rza and ghost finished
>it
>>and made it an album.
>
>not the same. Dre got actual production credits. RZA got
>credit for two joints. shit is not the same

"producer" is for the final product. any knucklehead with an mpc can make a beat. it's takes someone with vision to produce the song/album. both rza and dre have that vision...but they have two different work styles leading up to that final point (outsource v. diy). it just so happens that rza (with ghost) took a more dre-like role with "supreme"...to say that rza just "produced two beats" for that album is ludicrous. he threaded the whole project together! puffy ain't never touched a beat machine in his life, but look at how many "production credits" he got! it's not as cut and dry as you think it is.

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