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92128, Windows 2000 installed and now external is not recognized.
Posted by 13Rose, Sun Jan-21-07 07:28 PM
My mother's computer had XP but the hard drive was super small. She has a 160 gig external and to make the computer run smoother I installed 2000. Once I did that the external no longer showed up. What am I doing wrong here. Help a brother out people. I need this external to show up.
92130, why did you install windows 2000?
Posted by Rjcc, Sun Jan-21-07 07:34 PM
also, have you installed all the updates and how is the drive connected.



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92134, Because the hard drive is way too small for XP
Posted by 13Rose, Sun Jan-21-07 07:46 PM
With 2000 at least the machine can run smooth.
92135, hint: BUY A BIGGER HARD DRIVE
Posted by Rjcc, Sun Jan-21-07 07:55 PM
unless you make minimum wage, it would cost you less in hours than troubleshooting and reisntalling all your shit.


you still didn't say how it was connected you fucking moron


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92138, check this out. I'm nobody's FUCKING MORON.
Posted by 13Rose, Sun Jan-21-07 08:10 PM
I lost my connection before I could edit and tell you. It's connected via USB. Now calm the fuck down and ANSWER MY QUESTION!







ha.
92139, have you checked to see if it needs a specific driver for win 2k
Posted by Rjcc, Sun Jan-21-07 08:16 PM
is it recognized in device manager as being connected.

have you downloaded all the windows updates


and why didn't you just buy a bigger hard drive and save all of us some fucking time

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92395, 2000 doesn't support USB. That you didn't know that should be a hint.
Posted by Triptych, Tue Jan-23-07 02:19 PM
RJCC's an ass, but he's right. If you don't know that 2000 doesn't support USB, and you're trying to troubleshoot for her, you're WAAAAAY better off getting a bigger hard drive and sticking with XP.
92166, huh?
Posted by Up In Smoke, Mon Jan-22-07 03:24 AM
Windows XP uses like 3 gigs, just save your time and put XP back on there
92169, or spend shit, 40 bucks and get a much bigger drive
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jan-22-07 03:27 AM

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92136, I don't fuck with Externals don't know how they work but
Posted by Whatever Nevermind, Sun Jan-21-07 07:59 PM
mabey a driver issue I don't know if they even had them I do if you have an internal master with 2000 and internal slave with xp it wont work.
92152, ^^^^ still has windows 2000 ^^^^
Posted by Allah, Mon Jan-22-07 12:12 AM
......
92159, FOH. The Doc's still using Windows 2000!
Posted by Dr Claw, Mon Jan-22-07 01:48 AM
and this is a weird thing indeed.

The Doc doesn't understand the problem.

Is it a USB external drive?

Did it come with drivers and ish?

Win 2000 is usually good about recognizing external drives, esp. if they're USB.
92161, I don't think it was so good out of the box
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jan-22-07 02:09 AM
but you'd figure once all the service packs were on it would be good to go


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92162, Well yeah.
Posted by Dr Claw, Mon Jan-22-07 02:19 AM
SP4 is pretty easy to get though.

Why didn't XP recognize that drive, THe Doc wonders.
92163, I think XP did recognize the drive
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jan-22-07 02:22 AM
it';s not working now that they went to 200.

going to 200 at this stage of the game is a waste of time though, and I liked windows 2000, it's just not worth the hassle, especially for somebodys mothers computer.

it makes zero sense.


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92362, It's a plug and play USB drive.
Posted by 13Rose, Tue Jan-23-07 12:13 PM
nothing to install. I'm not at my mothers now so I can't work on it until maybe the weekend. However I am appreciative of all the feedback, even from the asshole RJCC.
92367, The Doc would just reinstall WinXP
Posted by Dr Claw, Tue Jan-23-07 12:33 PM
and try it again.

Something else had to be hosing up the speed.

If you stick Windows 2000 (which The Doc uses), there's a grip of configurations The Doc makes to use it at home, starting with the deactivation of a bunch of services that just don't need to be used.

Here's a list of the services on Win2000, some of which you can and should disable for home use

(this was swiped from a page, but The Doc can't find the original link):

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# Alerter service
This service is only needed for sending administrative alerts. Used to notify admins when a server is in trouble. Set it to Manual on a home PC.

# Clipbook service
This service is a relic of NT3.x. Used to support Clipbook Viewer which allows remote viewing of the clipbook. Default for workstation is manual. Ensure it is set to manual or disabled.

# Computer Browser
The browser service is used to maintain the list of PCs you see in Network Neighborhood. This is normally a server function. A home user can set this to Manual.

# Distributed Link Tracking Client
W2K/XP service. Distributed Link Tracking Client sends notifications of files moving between NTFS volumes in a network domain. A home user can set this to Manual.

# Distributed Transaction Coordinator
W2K/XP service. Coordinates transactions that are distributed across two or more databases, message queues, file systems, or other transaction-protected resource managers. A home user can set this to Manual.

# DNS Client
W2K/XP service. Resolves and caches Domain Name System (DNS) names. This is normally provided by your ISP. Set to Manual and if you have name resolution problems, return it to Automatic.

# Fax Service
W2K/XP service. Set to Manual if you don't need fax services.

# Indexing Service
W2K/XP service. Fastfind functionality. Improves text searches. For more info see Disable FindFast. For day to day performance, I would disable it.

# Internet Connection Sharing
W2K/XP service. If you are want to share an Internet connection for your home network, then set this to Automatic. If not, leave this set to Manual.

# IPSEC Policy Agent
W2K/XP service. Manages IP security policy and starts the ISAKMP/Oakley (IKE) and the IP security driver. If not, leave this set to Manual.

# Messenger service
This service can be used to send messages. When it receives messages, they pop up on the console. With email, whats the point? Really not useful on a home PC.

# Netlogon service
Logging onto a domain? Leave it. Otherwise set it to Manual.

# Network DDE
Supports network transport of DDE (Dynamic Data Exchange) connections. Such connectivity is mostly a relic from the NT 3.x days.

# NT LM Security Support Provider
Provides security to remote procedure call (RPC) programs that use transports other than named pipes. A home user can set this to Manual

# Performance Logs and Alerts
A home user can set this to Manual.

# Plug and Play
Gives something like PnP functionality but unless you are using unimodem modems, don't bother.

# QoS RSVP
W2K/XP service. Provides network signaling and local traffic control setup functionality for QoS-aware programs and control applets. A home user can set this to Manual.

# Remote Registry Service
W2K/XP service. Allows remote registry manipulation. A home user can set this to Manual.

# Routing and Remote Access
W2K/XP service. Offers routing services to businesses in local area and wide area network environments. A home user can set this to Manual.

# Runas service
W2K/XP service. Enables starting processes under alternate credentials. A home user can set this to Manual.

# Security Accounts Manager
W2K/XP service. Stores security information for local user accounts. A home user can set this to Manual unless you are using Local Security Policy Editor.

# Smart Card
W2K/XP service. Manages and controls access to a smart card inserted into a smart card reader attached to the computer. It is set to manual by default. Leave it there.

# Smart Card Helper
W2K/XP service. Provides support for legacy smart card readers attached to the computer. It is set to manual by default. Leave it there.

# Server service
You can disable the server service unless you are sharing files on your hard drive or your printer. If you have a DSL or cable modem, stop this service. Hackers will get nowhere if you do.

# Spooler
Print Spooler service in W2K/XP. Spooler in NT. Loads files to memory for later printing. If you don't have a printer, you can set it to manual.

# TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper
Provides support for name resolution via a lookup of the LMHosts file. If you are not using LMHOSTS name resolution, you can set it to Manual.

# Telephony Service
Provides Telephony API (TAPI) support for programs that control telephony devices and IP based voice connections on the local computer and, through the LAN, on servers that are also running the service. Normally set to Manual on workstations. Leave it on Manual.

# Telnet
Allows a remote user to log on to the system and run console programs using the command line. Default is Manual. Leave it.

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then get up on SP4 (Microsoft lets you download this from their site).

It's what The Doc's been using after finally getting rid of Windows 98 (in 2004-05, yes, The Doc knows...)

92165, its too big
Posted by Up In Smoke, Mon Jan-22-07 03:23 AM
windows nt only can see up to 137 gigs or something like that, try partitioning it into 2 100gigs
92168, ???? NTFS was made for big drives
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92174, I'm not talking about NTFS
Posted by Up In Smoke, Mon Jan-22-07 04:51 AM
http://techpatterns.com/forums/about260.html

I never really used NT, so I don't how common this problem is, if he has all the updates it's not a problem I guess
92190, what else would he have used?
Posted by Rjcc, Mon Jan-22-07 11:07 AM
the drive has to be ntfs formatted, so the 137gb issue doesn't apply, but 2000 has no problem recognizing fat32 drives over that size either. it just can't make them by default


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92445, ah, I mistunderstood that issue
Posted by Up In Smoke, Tue Jan-23-07 05:15 PM
I though it had a problem reading over 137, not making them
92298, Just to update you all ...
Posted by 13Rose, Tue Jan-23-07 12:03 AM
I downloaded the updates for Windows 2000. Still no juice on recognizing the drive. When the computer had XP it recognized the drive and all was good. I installed 2000 on the computer because it was running extremely slow and I thought it was because there was too much of a strain using XP. The computer now runs smooth but no external to be found. And my mother only uses this computer to go online and play poker.

Any other suggestions?

My cousin recommended I update the BIOS. I've never done that before so any help is appreciated.
92301, your cousins a moron too
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jan-23-07 12:19 AM
you haven't even tried all the suggestions in this post

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92336, WTF!?! Mods calling people morans. Fuckin' Assholes.
Posted by BreezeBoogie, Tue Jan-23-07 10:27 AM
n/m
92363, anybody who switches OSs before checking compatibility
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jan-23-07 12:14 PM
on stuff they "really need", especially when there is a better option available, is a moron.

not that I haven't done it, but its still a moronic thing to do


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92394, 2000 doesn't support USB out of the box. You have to find drivers.
Posted by Triptych, Tue Jan-23-07 02:17 PM
2000 is a BAD idea. A BAAAD idea. Is M$ even supporting anymore.

Buy her a bigger hard drive and save yourself some trouble.
92404, Even Windows 98 supported USB
Posted by BreezeBoogie, Tue Jan-23-07 02:48 PM
out of the box. Windows 95 had marginal Windows support.
92410, yeah, but you still needed device specific drivers in 98
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jan-23-07 02:53 PM
plug and play usb really wasn't true more than 50% of the time until xp service pack 2


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92412, I know that. But win2k did not.
Posted by Triptych, Tue Jan-23-07 02:55 PM
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92409, with all the service packs, in theory it should work
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jan-23-07 02:52 PM
the problem is , even in 2000, usb is mostly working "in theory"


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92414, Yeah like sp5 or some shit.
Posted by Triptych, Tue Jan-23-07 02:56 PM
Anyway, HT has spoken. XP.
92420, indeed.
Posted by Nopayne, Tue Jan-23-07 03:15 PM
No more security updates for win2k. Go back to XP

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92456, Okay,
Posted by 13Rose, Tue Jan-23-07 06:34 PM
I've taken what all of you have said into consideration. I'm gonna buy another internal and re-install XP.
92459, welcome to our world
Posted by Rjcc, Tue Jan-23-07 06:51 PM
where things are calculated by how much of your time it will potentially waste on bullshit.

good choice.


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92473, wait... you actually took our advice...
Posted by Triptych, Tue Jan-23-07 09:06 PM
damn. You need to instruct everyone else who comes in here looking for help on how to ack right.
92574, man, i am glad I have a mac
Posted by sevencents, Wed Jan-24-07 02:39 PM

7c
92602, oh shut the fuck up
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jan-24-07 03:46 PM
if you had a mac and installed an operating system from 1999 you wouldn't be able to hook up shit to it either


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92603, no, no rjcc. You have to bring them SLOWLY back into reality.
Posted by Triptych, Wed Jan-24-07 03:48 PM
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92615, RE: oh shut the fuck up
Posted by sevencents, Wed Jan-24-07 04:58 PM
>if you had a mac and installed an operating system from 1999
>you wouldn't be able to hook up shit to it either
>

which is why i am glad that I am on a mac. We don't install operating systems from 1999. this is 2007.

7c
92638, ...
Posted by Rjcc, Wed Jan-24-07 07:33 PM
omg you're a fucking moron.



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92646, back away....you must back away...
Posted by Dr Claw, Wed Jan-24-07 09:12 PM
92647, This stuff always cracks me up.
Posted by Nopayne, Wed Jan-24-07 09:14 PM
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92660, Vista drops Jan. 30. /nm/
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