Long story longer - I returned the PowerSPEC because I was having money anxieties, but then 2 weeks later drove back to Microcenter and saw it was in the Open Box section for $300 off.

So I bought it back - I'm having weird anxiety around money.

But this machine is SOLID. Super fast. Temperatures and noise are OKAY - but I keep it in a cabinet so it doesn't get as much airflow as it might need.

But if you got a microcenter near by it's worth a look - especially in the open box section. the parts alone cost more than I got it for.

They had an 10850k machine with a 3080 in open box for $2100 too.