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Topic subjectMicrosoft is coming for Wacom
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300982, Microsoft is coming for Wacom
Posted by hardware, Wed Oct-26-16 01:33 PM
this post is going wood, but fuck it.

the monopoly is winding down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Z-l-nSlN0

Also, i aint know that many people didn't know Cintiqs existed
300983, Another board I was on was complaining about Wacom being lazy
Posted by BigReg, Wed Oct-26-16 04:30 PM
basically that their high end is still HIGH END and worth it, but their products are generally overpriced and its about time others started going for their necks.

>this post is going wood, but fuck it.
>
>the monopoly is winding down
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Z-l-nSlN0
>
>Also, i aint know that many people didn't know Cintiqs
>existed
300984, UC Logic and Huion already eating away at the low end
Posted by hardware, Wed Oct-26-16 04:52 PM
especially UC Logic making Wacom look very overpriced.
they don't have as many bells and whistles, but they make the $600-700 difference look suspect.
Now MS has an all in one solution thats a better deal if you're starting from scratch.
I'd much prefer this on my desk than two huge monitors.

I think Wacom got too comfortable and i'm surprised the reintroduction of the stylus in consumer tech, a better stylus, didn't have them switching it up a little.

Why get a Companion when you can get a Surface book?
Why get one of their smaller monitors over an Artisul D13?

Wacom is gonna get lost in the sauce before too long. They need to work on offering more at the <$1k level and the >$1500 level.

I SHOULD be able to get at least a 22in tablet monitor for under $700 with a Wacom digitizer in it.
300985, that video didnt show the 3d capabilities
Posted by RobOne4, Thu Oct-27-16 01:44 AM
https://gfycat.com/BreakableFlippantHapuku

just saw this on reddit and this shit is amazing.
300986, Wow
Posted by xangeluvr, Thu Oct-27-16 09:35 AM
That looks slick as hell.
300988, i'd be interested to see if Blender/Maya integrates the dial
Posted by hardware, Thu Oct-27-16 10:48 AM
301431, FOCK. Its a wrap.
Posted by Castro, Wed Dec-21-16 11:36 AM
301003, Still haven't seen too many Wacom comparisons oddly
Posted by hardware, Fri Oct-28-16 11:17 AM
people seem to think a touch screen and a pen digitizer are the same tech
301407, great overview and review
Posted by xangeluvr, Sat Dec-17-16 03:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NhyDiiaXic
301409, yeah the all-in-one aspect is a blessing and a curse
Posted by hardware, Sat Dec-17-16 12:56 PM
more of a curse imo.
301418, RE: yeah the all-in-one aspect is a blessing and a curse
Posted by xangeluvr, Mon Dec-19-16 12:14 AM
Yeah, i mean the thing is frickin beautiful, but yes the all in one aspect really relegates it to a small specific demographic. I'm not buying that thing unless I can upgrade it when I need more.
301419, yeah you buy a Cintiq and it lasts for at least 10 years
Posted by hardware, Mon Dec-19-16 11:57 AM
you can swap computers 3 times or more in that span so you def get your money's worth
301432, Yeah but this is like getting an iMac and a Cintiq.
Posted by Castro, Wed Dec-21-16 11:37 AM
And iMacs maxed out are good for at least 5 years.
301433, not really
Posted by hardware, Wed Dec-21-16 11:11 PM
its not really touching an iMac spec-wise
and its not really touching a Cintiq pen-wise which is the real dealbreaker

you could kind of get over the specs if the pen was up to par, but the surface pen isn't even close to Wacom (or UC-Logic for that matter) and Microsoft still hasn't addressed the awful line jitter. If i'm supposed to pay that much for what its supposed to do, i'd expect fewer compromises on the digitizer.
301440, I expect them to fix this. This is the boldest thing
Posted by Castro, Thu Dec-22-16 10:00 AM
they have done in a while.
301446, its been 4 years and N-trig still falling short.
Posted by hardware, Thu Dec-22-16 11:08 PM
N-trig still suffers from the same jitter as alternative pen tablets and tablet displays on Windows for whatever reason. The Surface pen doesn't seem to have been given an upgrade; 1024 compared to Wacom's +8000. Even the $500 Monoprice 22in sitting in front of me has a pen with 2048. 1024 is acceptable on the Surface Pro and even the Book, but its hard to recommend having that on the desk. It doesn't even have tilt control.

i realize i've done such a heel turn in this post. lol