and I have a big enough arsenal and friends who can coach me on the gear so I have the gear to compete. I just find it tedious to have to hit the tower to pull guns that are useful in any way just for Crucible (stuff I already have maxed out, when I'm only playing to level weapons at this point), because only a small subset of weapons in the game are even tenable in PvP, and then you just get mowed down by shotguns or snipers half the time anyway. I tried so hard to forgive or understand it, but after spending time back in Battlefield, it's just impossible to even tolerate the Crucible.

The level design is terrible, the game objectives are so weak, the balance is off, I just can't underscore enough that the levels are really poorly designed, it's just not good...

I'll fuck with the 'horde' mode in the DLC, if that's true, though...