>We can't even consistently get games at 1080p at 60 frames for
>either system. Trust me, they have been maxed.
>
>The graphical leap won't be HUGE this gen, but it will be
>substantial and noticeable now that everyone's gone high def.
>Plus with everyone still upgrading tube televisions & getting
>used to the new tech (tablets! smartphones! Hulu!) ive got a
>sneaking suspicion that if they make the systems look cool
>enough they will break records this Holiday season...the
>fetish for owning new tech the second it comes out is
>spreading.
>
>Now after the nerds/spoiled teens like us buy up the first few
>initial shipments the question is how long will it take the
>rest of the mainstream to upgrade...it felt like it took a
>long time for everyone to put their PS2's away and finally
>upgrade.

This is the reason that next Xbox needs the Tegra 8. The Tegra 3 looks better than a PSP. Smartphones caught up graphically on the high end. It's going to take a lot to convince the consumer to shell out $700 for a console and games.

It's going to take a lot for me to even consider it. I need three years of live and two games to even touch the box.

Then again anything is a step up graphically for a 360 owner after the debacle that was early 360 games.