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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Picking it up 2morrow!!! Excited!!

You get a $20 coupon along with a free game that is $19.99 or under

I'm very tempted

Not sure if I want to pick this game up @ launch, but that could maybe convince me.

but, i don't know if there are any kmarts in MN anymore.

edit: still plenty, but not many in the cities. minnetonka might be closest to you. http://www.allstays.com/c/kmart-minnesota-locations.htm

That's pretty close

if it's the one off lyndale.

same for best buy (online orders only, not in-store)

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/la-noire

meaning some more technical glitches.

has it been said anywhere else?

strange considering IGN is clowned for being M$ fanboys

*shrug* nothing that seems game breaking

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I've been building in my head since this game was announced. I understand it's not based on the same sort of semi-real time engine that Blade Runner was so the core plot of the game isn't going to be based entirely on your actions (in fact as best I can tell there's not necessarily a core plot, it's more like Law & Order) but, still. The way the game is played has been described has been reminding me of that classic point and click adventure since I first started reading about it. I'm going to be in line tonight if I can find a ride there, otherwise I'll have to wait until tomorrow afternoon and that'll be a little saddening.

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Hopefully it's here by wednesday

bout to fire it up

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and got a $20 gaming coupon and a free game. I got Mass Effect 2 for Xbox 360 for free.

I'm just not into RPGs. But I'm going to give it a whirl. Hell I never finished Fallout 3.

Fallout 3 just got waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy too long with all the missions I was doing AFTER reaching lvl. 20. either let me keep leveling up, or shorten the damn game.

the story in ME2 is nice, and while the combat is a bit clunky at first, by the end of the game it feels natural and you end up looking forward to it every time.

That's the only reason I don't want to play ME2. I want that full experience, plus I'm sort of wary of spending time on RPGs these days anyway.


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Thankfully I have a 360 as well so I don't have to miss out. The comic did a pretty decent job of making the big decisions so the story line could carry on from the first game into number 2.

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you get a free game plus a $20 coupon for what, games @ Kmart? Or is it for something online?

link w/the details.
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you get a free game of your choice $19.99 or less, a $20 (in-store) gaming coupon that activates 5 days later and allows you to come back to the store and get $20 off of anything gaming related, and you get LA Noire all for $60.

I think I'll stop by Kmart on my way home from work

I really wish I knew where a K Mart was

The free game is a bonus offer, and I'm not sure if it expired or not. The folks at the Kmart I went to were nice, but didn't know about the deal. I may still be able to get a free game if I send an email to someone in Kmart corporate, but not sure if I wanna bother.

Still a good deal though.

Is the gameplay any different?

In fact, if you go into it thinking its GTA set in the 40's you will be immensely disappointed.

>In fact, if you go into it thinking its GTA set in the 40's
>you will be immensely disappointed.

I don't want another GTA, they're getting stale IMO. I think I might pick up a copy.

I'm not getting the impression you'll be able to roam around after the game is done, but who knows? I haven't tried the Streets of L.A. setting yet, which just puts you out there solving street cases instead of desk cases. The desk cases are just too interesting and they do a good job of making you feel like you need a little sense of urgency during the mission, which has usually been backed up by messages like "If you would have arrived at this and this just a little sooner, you could have done this and this..." after the mission is completed.

I still haven't five-starred a case; I've got a bunch of fours and two threes. The last case I did I only got 2 out of 7 questions right but I found all but one clue so I still got my man. It was close though; the other guy was trying to skip town and if I'd have made a wrong move or two I probably would have missed him and convicted the wrong guy.

I also turned the clue hints off after the first mission shows you the clue above the window; I figured if they're going to try and hide stuff from you like that, I'd rather get the proper satisfaction for being clever enough to look up for something like that. It's still pretty easy to find clues though since you can just do the standard Monkey's Island "click everything that moves and interact with it every way you can" strategy.

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Not realizing not everything you can pick up is necessarily a clue



... OR IS IT?!?!

other than that there are many differences

there is a lot more thinking involved, and you really have to be able to read suspects and put together the clues to ask the right questions.

but is it open world? Yes.
Go anywhere, take any car? Yes.
signature R* storytelling? Yes.
Map challenges/unlockables? Yes.

But it's way more directed than GTA, and you are on a tighter leash. You can't just rob and stomp people or draw your gun at will and start shooting or anything. A lot of what you can and can't do is contextual.
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When you walk out from the briefing. Now that's that Rockstar touch I love. Give me stuff that means nothing but just makes you feel more like the character you're playing.

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I like how they don't even explain what you did wrong, you just get your ass handed to you for it. But, but...I do want answers. Damn.

I did some street crimes though and caused some accidents to the tune of $744 which is probably like the equivalent of $4,000 now. So I guess that probably moved me from 3 to 2.


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feeling good y'all. hard (detective) work pays off.

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That's the only thing from the reviews that I'm not really happy with. The story must be totally linear.

I'm still looking forward to receiving my copy though. Hopefully it'll come today.

You can get a case WRONG, but you WILL solve it. You'll just be a disappointment to your superiors. They like to note the DA is happy with your findings, though.

If you're a fan of the Wire though you might like that touch. Sometimes you get the wrong guy but he can still be prosecuted, and you realize that's all that matters in 1947 L.A. or anywhere. It's like Red Dead Redemption in that way, it plays the morals of the period against the morals of now and sheds a light on why things have developed how they have.


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This was my main concern going in as well, but I played up through the first real interrogation mission last night and it seems to be structured in a way where you can still blow it, say by accidentally shooting a suspect or accidentally backing your car into a crime scene, running over a corpse (Both of which I did)

There just don't seem to be any dead ends when it comes to interrogation. But still... I found myself invested enough that I really cared about getting those questions right, so the challenge/fun factor was still there.

To get to the X-Box games

But I could tell from her body language and facial expressions that she was lying just to get out of having to walk 20 feet. I asked someone else and was checking out within minutes.

So I'm pretty much already awesome at this game.

has nothing to do with gaming, but has to do with the fact that i hate that type of laziness with a passion.

It makes me laugh. I suppose its the same actor and all but damn is it identical and hard for me not to think of Mad Men

Damn I wish I had more time to play this tho. Only played my first detective case, and not all the way through. Stupid obligations. Shit seems fun so far. Got it for PS3

if this game was based or even loosely based on the East Rawlins books. Curious how the stuff with the shrink in the newspaper headlines will tie into the main story.

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Naked City DLC = FREE
Case of the Missing Badge DLC= Free

Me and my one year old stared at the book and photo negatives (gamestop exclusive) for like an hour. I've only started the first mission, saved right before entering the gun shop. I love the feel of it. I love just push square for directions. I love that I dont have to drive everywhere (Hold triangle outside the whip), and I too have turned the clues off- i thought that was the point. Heavy Rain's facial tech is still by Far the best in any game, this dont come close, but I am loving this so far!! Also copped Demon's Souls for free with my points from gamestop. Heard good things but this looks way to RPG for my tastes. Anybody played it?

As for the DLC, they gotta give me my PSN back first. Oh wait, it is back. I'm on it.

Nevermind, the Store is still dead. Dagnabbit.

Also, it does kind of suck to drive around since you get penalized for running into ANYTHING when the case is all said and done, but you do have to drive around (in a police vehicle) if you want to get the street cases and those cases are really useful for boosting rank and getting new suits/intuition points.

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>Also, it does kind of suck to drive around since you get
>penalized for running into ANYTHING when the case is all said
>and done, but you do have to drive around (in a police
>vehicle) if you want to get the street cases and those cases
>are really useful for boosting rank and getting new
>suits/intuition points.

I five-starred the jewel store shooting case and I had nasty accident with a trolley car. Granted, that's the only accident I had while doign that case, so I'm thinking that's why it didn't hurt me too much. I'm guessing the accidents will only hurt you if you do prolonged damage on the road or if you just carelessly run pedestrians over.

I caught that too

i said out loud "you ain't supposed to motherfucker"

I thought the faces looked familiar and when I saw Parkman from "Heroes", it was obvious. I can also see the difference in the facial animations on this game; it doesn't look like a kung-fu movie dubbing. I do have a hard time tellin' when to accuse the person of lying or showing doubt by the face/movements, but u can usually accuse them of lying if you have hard evidence. The overall movement looks good and it's really fluid, but it doesn't seem like u have a lot of control; Phelps will jump and climb on his own depending where you are.

It doesn't seem as challenging or maybe I just need to get deeper into the game. The hardest part seems to be interrogation and the street crimes are really easy. I've only got one 5-star rating and I'm distinguished overall, 4-star. I wear the Broderick suit so that may have something to do with it; I haven't died that much. One death was a big glitch; I ran to climb down a ladder and died against the damn wall! He was the above the hole and just started hemorrhaging in slow motion; it was really weird.

Shooting seems pretty easy, but fighting is my favorite part. I wish there were more fights; most of the chases end with them giving up or gettin' shot up lol


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i'm only on the third or so traffic case (car crash into the billboard) and everything is a little too rote. finally figured out you could turn off the music cues for evidence.

i think they also should have provided more questions to ask suspects, some that would shut the interview down, instead of just making it reliant on the truth/doubt/lie scale.

And I'm not very far along in the game at all

I guess they had some downtime

the stand-in bartender in the case involving the hit and run murder? His face looked familiar, but I couldn't place him since its been a while since I've seen him on the show. If there's a third Mad Men actor/actress after that case, don't spoil it for me.

(Not Ken Kosgrove)

Now it makes sense - the show and the game had the same casting directors.

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I mean, the city is freakin' huge, but you have so little control and opportunity to explore the city. Just seems like a waste.

Not to mention the city is no where as interactive as past GTA's. I know you are a cop and can't go around just beating up or shooting people at random like in GTA, but there is literally nothing else for you to do in the city but street crimes and the assigned cases.

Even the Old West in RDR was more interactive.

that part is chafing me a bit.

And honestly, I wish everyone would STFU about the facial technology. It's really not that damn impressive. And honestly, It's 2011. I EXPECT realistic faces. I'm not gonna drool over it.


btw, I just made it to the homicide desk, so we'll see if anything opens up a bit from there.
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>I mean, the city is freakin' huge, but you have so little
>control and opportunity to explore the city. Just seems like a
>waste.

First off - I just got a 360 and the last 2 games I played on it were GTA 4 and RDR. So I could use a breather from the sandbox stuff.

Second - in a way, isn't that MORE realistic? I live in LA and despite having a huge city to "explore", I generally don't just wander into storefronts on a whim or attempt interactions with random passers by. I got shit to do and places to be.

And it probably speaks to how much I'm enjoying the missions that I'm more focused on getting to the crime scene than I am finding Union Station or something like that. There's a real sense of urgency to everything. For me at least. I mean, I discovered a landmark yesterday according to a notification that popped up on screen, but I couldn't even be bothered to look at it. Lives were at stake!

That said - if I need a break from the core storyline, or eventually wrap it all up, I'm hoping there is some exploring to be done. Even if it's just driving around searching for landmarks.


>Not to mention the city is no where as interactive as past
>GTA's. I know you are a cop and can't go around just beating
>up or shooting people at random like in GTA, but there is
>literally nothing else for you to do in the city but street
>crimes and the assigned cases.

Okay, but in Super Mario Bros there is literally nothing else to do but eat mushrooms and save princesses. Didn't hurt the gaming experience.

>And honestly, I wish everyone would STFU about the facial
>technology. It's really not that damn impressive. And
>honestly, It's 2011. I EXPECT realistic faces. I'm not gonna
>drool over it.

I'm pretty impressed by it but again, I just got a 360. I'm still kind of impressed that games don't use cartridges anymore. So take it with a grain of salt.

>First off - I just got a 360 and the last 2 games I played on
>it were GTA 4 and RDR. So I could use a breather from the
>sandbox stuff.
>
>Second - in a way, isn't that MORE realistic? I live in LA and
>despite having a huge city to "explore", I generally don't
>just wander into storefronts on a whim or attempt interactions
>with random passers by. I got shit to do and places to be.
>That said - if I need a break from the core storyline, or
>eventually wrap it all up, I'm hoping there is some exploring
>to be done. Even if it's just driving around searching for
>landmarks.
>

Meh, yes and no. Getting to a crime scene in time is more about sequence than actual time spent getting there. Otherwise they wouldn't have you doing the side street crimes which are always happening in the middle of a case.

and realistic and immersive are two different things. Yeah, I got places to be and things to do, but diversion is nice. And to me, you don't tout how much you went to painstaking lengths to recreate 1940's L.A. if I only get to see/experience a tiny slice of it or the ones just expressly for missions.


>Okay, but in Super Mario Bros there is literally nothing else
>to do but eat mushrooms and save princesses. Didn't hurt the
>gaming experience.

Horrible analogy. Totally different type of game, in a totally different type of era.



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>btw, I just made it to the homicide desk, so we'll see if
>anything opens up a bit from there.

I'm hoping the game allows you to be a 'bad' cop in that you are able to plant evidence and frame suspect in the vein that in prior Rockstar games you are able to go rogue and be a villain and complete missions. If this is an option, I'd probably only do this upon completion of the game.

> I know you are a cop and can't go around just beating
>up or shooting people at random like in GTA

even fuck around and call it "gta noire" or some shit

for one, rockstar has BEEN saying for months what the game was gonna be like

and the other thing is...if you want *that* game, play GTA...this is SUPPOSED to be a different type of game, but set in an open world

the fact that the guy who runs team bondi is the guy who ran the development of "the getaway" makes tons of sense to me...this game has some of the feel of that game (and ppl are whining about the same things they did w/ that game)

aside: did "the getaway" basically invent the automatic health regeneration? remember, you had to lean up against something to recover in that one, but its the earliest game i can remember where health wasn't regenerated through "packs" or "food" or what have you...

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Um, I thought of Winback but that was just the cover system, yea?

Maybe it was the Getaway, I remember really disliking it when the game came out but mainly because it took forever for your health to come back. I still don't prefer regeneration but you can tell it's pretty much what we're stuck with now.

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>time is flying
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>Um, I thought of Winback but that was just the cover system,
>yea?

never played that one

>Maybe it was the Getaway, I remember really disliking it when
>the game came out but mainly because it took forever for your
>health to come back. I still don't prefer regeneration but you
>can tell it's pretty much what we're stuck with now.

yeah, i like it better i think...i played MOH: frontline (the HD version that was on the MOH ltd edition--didn't buy it, borrowed it...played frontline more than the new moh, lol) and remembered what it was like to have to find health packs in a shooter...also you had to beat the WHOLE level, no checkpoints, haha....and that's from '02 also i think (maybe '01?)

getaway was one of my favorite ps2 games period. but there wasn't much to do after beating the game and i never played the 2nd one b/c i don't think i had a ps2 when it came out.

I think I just heard average things about it. Honestly I'm a little disappointed this game isn't a little more like The Getaway, there's a lot of obvious Rockstar elements in this one. The Getaway was very gritty and realistic, right down to the fact it'd take like 20 minutes to get to a mission sometimes and the cops would bust your ass for bad driving before you could even get to the case (...maybe that kind of sucked), but they had a lot of interesting storylines and missions in there like busting into the police station. Really underrated game. Hopefully Team Bondi sticks with Rockstar and can make a game more Getaway style next, that was one of the games that emphasized story over action and really got over on it.


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never played the second, and the first one i think i only made it to the big boat, but never survived.

Getaway 2 was no way near as good as the 1st one. Fun game nonetheless.

1982!

I had to look that up. As far as I know, The Getaway was the first modern game to do it, unless you count regenerative shields like in Halo.

I loved the idea of The Getaway games, but they just weren't much fun to play IMO. The controls were awful and driving felt like a chore. Hopefully the series is brought back one day and made decent.

>for one, rockstar has BEEN saying for months what the game
>was gonna be like
>
>and the other thing is...if you want *that* game, play
>GTA...this is SUPPOSED to be a different type of game, but set
>in an open world

They BEEN touting a faithfully recreated L.A. to roam and explore, and the level of interactivity with the city itself is the lowest of any of their open world games.

And that's what you expect from a R* game.

For the record, I said that I liked the game. I don't expect just a 1940's GTA. I like the fact that they are making you think.

But people are fulla shit if they said they expected a linear game with NO real side quests/extras.

You trying to tell me, you bought an open world R* game and didn't expect any side quests beyond just looking for landmarks? Or that they couldn't have thrown in some side plot/minigame AT ALL for you to play?

Nah B.

Storytelling - great.
Atmosphere - great.
Immersiveness - great.
Huge, huge city with no interactivity so far other than police boxes and landmarks? - they could've done better.

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>They BEEN touting a faithfully recreated L.A. to roam and
>explore

the game delivers that, it just doesn't allow you to run around shootin folks up

it is a faithfully recreated LA (i assume, not from LA lol) and you can roam and explore (collect all the cars, view the faithfully recreated areas, do the "streets of la" where you drive around and answer calls--for each desk too)

>and the level of interactivity with the city itself
>is the lowest of any of their open world games.

i think that's a GOOD thing for THIS game, and i don't recall the press on the game touting it's interactivity, mainly the previews were about the game entirely separate from it being in an open world

the game is as good as games that are straight 1 player non-open-world games, the open world is a bonus almost

>And that's what you expect from a R* game.

that's what you expect from gta or rdr...rockstar has more games than that

>For the record, I said that I liked the game. I don't expect
>just a 1940's GTA. I like the fact that they are making you
>think.
>But people are fulla shit if they said they expected a linear
>game with NO real side quests/extras.

it has 20+ missions, 40 calls you can answer, 100 cars to collect, a big city to drive around and check out

it's a very stripped down city to be sure but i think, honestly, that's what they were going for w/ this game, the point of THIS game was not to do all that, but to focus on what else the game brings

and while you mad they're probably using this game (and rdr) to perfect their ideas for the next gta


>You trying to tell me, you bought an open world R* game and
>didn't expect any side quests beyond just looking for
>landmarks? Or that they couldn't have thrown in some side
>plot/minigame AT ALL for you to play?


they could've put in morebut this is what they put out (and i'm sure there's dlc coming too), and i think it's calculated

and it's dope and original

and really the 40 "side" missions are nice when you consider the 20+ cases (mine came w/ two extra bonus cases for DL also) are a great game in and of themselves

a lot of ppl don't even fuck with all that shit they packed into gta/rdr anyway (not enough to care a lot if the game provided is dope and original)



>Storytelling - great.
>Atmosphere - great.
>Immersiveness - great.
>Huge, huge city with no interactivity so far other than police
>boxes and landmarks? - they could've done better.

see how everything you qualified as "great" is basis stuff (hence you only needing one word for each) about videogames, but you had to make a whole sentence about the thing you're complaining about? that's because it's not something that's essential for a great video game, your just pissy that there's not more shit for you to do when it's done

i could see myself playing these cases over quite a few times

glad i spent the money on it (or the trade ins lol)

I loved Getaway!!! It was my first non sports game since Ninja Gaiden on Nintendo.

I haven't started playing LA Noire yet...still playing Crysis 2.

Very intelligent and well informed people like myself who read up on this stuff already knew L.A. wasn’t going to be a GTA/Red Dead style open world game, but I imagine many casual consumers just see the Rockstar logo and assume.

Anyone else getting that?

Everytime I hit "Doubt" I'm hoping for kind of a Columbo swag, but instead Phelps is like "TELL ME THE TRUTH OR I WILL BEAT YOUR ASS"

Damn son

He talks to everybody like he wants to toss them into the gas chamber. Witnesses, co-workers, etc.

i had to pause the game so i could step away because i was dying.

I don't know, all of a sudden it feels a lot less well written and plotted. Lots of cool sets though, they still have that going for them. But the storyline feels more game-y and so do the things you do.


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ikemoses just pointed this out to me.

"...and pardon if it sounds a lil wheezy,
it's not Wayne mothafers, got asthma, it's not easy"

when i found out that the game didn't do 1080p, but then i discovered the black and white option and all was forgiven.

I mean, the three options are Lie, Doubt, Truth, but if you think that mofo is lying, how is that different from doubting what they're saying?

Even picking truth sometimes has him saying some old seemingly random shit.

I wish it had a more ME style dialogue trees.


Maybe I'm just being nitpicky, but do far I'm kinda "meh" on it so far. It's just been a bunch of trial and error for me.

>if you
>think that mofo is lying, how is that different from doubting
>what they're saying?

doubt is if you don't think they're telling the truth but can't prove it, when you choose lie you have to produce evidence from your notebook to catch them in the lie


i think this game is confusing a lot of ppl b/c it's not too out there yet it's not too standard either...im loving the balance myself

doubt basically just means to press them for more information.

lie means you know they're lying and can prove it.

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I'll try again tonight. I just kept going back through the interrogations over and over til I got em right.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/20/be-a-better-l-a-noire-interrogator/
partial swipe --

Get your facts straight
We know it's tempting, what with the witness or potential suspect standing right there, to just charge in and start asking them questions, but hold your horses. Before you tuck into the questioning, you'll want to unearth all the available evidence beforehand. Of course, you'll wanna comb the crime scene for every clue (you'll know you found them all when the pensive music stops). But your prep can start even earlier by making sure you take your interrogations in the proper order, namely: If you're given the option between traveling to a potential witness or potential suspect, always go with the witness first. It's sometimes tough to tell one from the other, but the right choice will insure you have all the facts you need. Then, and only then, should you ask your first question.

Look lively!
The moments after you ask your question are crucial. You can't rewatch an answer, so you have to keep your eyes peeled and locked to the screen for the entirety of every reply.


Listen to your heart
As you're watching every answer, it's important to follow your instinct. Almost without exception, no gesture, whether it be a sideways glance or a lower lip bite is unintentional. Don't convince yourself you're chasing shadows; if it looks like something is fishy, something almost certainly is.

The truth of the matter
In a testament to Team Bondi's faith in humankind, the very first option you're given for responding to any answer is "Truth." It's important to remember that if your interview subject is being curt or even flat out rude, it doesn't mean they're hiding something. The person may just be a jerk. But if they give you a straight with no tells -- like facial quirks or fidgets -- and you don't have anything to prove the statement wrong, this is the proper choice.

I don't doubt you're lying
The two options that throw most rookies are "Doubt" and "Lie," so here's the key difference: You have to be able to prove a lie. That means, you have to have evidence in your notebook that specifically contradicts the statement the witness is making. Generally speaking, "Doubt" is more appropriate if you think the witness is giving you a half-truth or holding back info.



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I've learned that I'm terrible with names, and keep having to refer to my handy dandy notebook mid-interrogation just to remind myself of who the murder victim was

I've also learned that not all skepticism is good when it comes to detective work. I often second guess my own evidence, feeling that it seems a little too circumstantial to convict someone with.

And finally, I'm too trusting of the dames. A classic noir no-no.

I invent complicated backstories to decide why people might or might not be lying and what the evidence really means and what they had for breakfast this morning....then pick the wrong choice.

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The game requires more (or maybe just different) thinking than the average video game, but it's pretty easy to over-do it. I'm trying to think of these cases less like actual crimes (ie What would I do if I were a real detective) and more like short films (ie What would probably happen next in this movie)

I'm sure the game will catch me off guard eventually with a plot twist or two, but right now I'm my own biggest enemy in that regard

And then realized on the NEXT question, after I'd gotten her wrong, that I had the evidence I just hadn't paid attention enough to what happened before I met her to call her out.

Needless to say, our interview went 0/3. :(

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I was trying to interview that dude about the killing at the bar and I kept getting interrupted by folk in my house and was missing his body language and whatnot and messing up.

at the same time i'm playin

1. i assume everyone is lying.
2. im a terrible driver.

>2. im a terrible driver.

the driving is pretty easy tho' considering the cars and I like how your partner can give directions too.


"...and pardon if it sounds a lil wheezy,
it's not Wayne mothafers, got asthma, it's not easy"

seeing how fast i can weave through traffic without crashing into other cars, that doesnt last long, thats usually when i ask someone else for their car.

Not particularly challenging or complex, but incredibly fun

Also do people realize that Team Bondi did the majority of this game not Rockstar, Rockstar helped on some things but they mostly helped with the bankroll.

>Team Bondi did the majority of
>this game not Rockstar, Rockstar helped on some things but
>they mostly helped with the bankroll.

i'm sure that the resources Rockstar had from gta (old dma) and rdr (old angel studios) and even mafia ii(developed by a subsidiary of 2k which is over rockstar) were helpful to the developing process, but Bondi did the game

The fuck y'all doing that I'm not?

I just chase them until they give up or shoot it out in an intense hostage situation

when the prompt comes up, tap x repeatedly (think running in rdr) and phelps will speed up his run and if he gets close enough tackle the guy he's chasing

in three sittings.

i'm only doing a case or two at a time, though. i've been taking it slow so far, trying to enjoy it.

one 10-15 hour shot and then complain that it got repetitive.

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I cant sit on my ass for 15 hours and play a game

Longer cases I might have to break up into 2 sessions that might happen nights apart from each other. As if my memory wasn't bad enough.

and are going through it for the 2nd time. This was as of Friday. So they might have beaten it a second time already. I think they need helpe.

loved the plot/story of the game


but i've only done like 10 of the radio call missions, and there's 2 more cases to DL when the store's back up

Some of these people have nooo reason to be lying. Like bitch you arent a suspect you just saw some shit from across the street.

some people be throwing me off just cause I totally trust them when really I got to doubt their ass.


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There's very little tedious travel and nothing feels stale.

ERROR OCCURED DURING STARTUP OPPERATION... ANYBODY ELSE GET HIS SHIT. KINDA SALTY ABOUT IT

In case some here don't know, its only available once you clear a set of cases for Traffic, Homicide, and Vice. In the beginning of the game when you at the silloutete menu option, keep scrolling until you get to the CASES option. Once there, select the type of cases you cleared and Free Roam will be the last option. Did it briefly for the Traffic Desk cases mainly to finish up the street crimes. I also saw some of the secret cars while taking care of the street crimes. Some of the designs are interesting to say the least. Its a shame the secret cars don't have police radios and therefore can't be used during cases. I don't think you can save the cars in any sort of garage for future use at all.

Is there any difference between them all, besides the types of street crimes that are available?

But yeah, I finally dipped around town just to sight see. It is SO cool to having those "holy shit, I've been here... 60 years later!" moments. It's equally cool having those "Holy shit that's what this place used to look like?!" moments as well.

I was kind of disappointed to not see any hand/footprints in front of Grauman's though.

Biggest letdown so far: Apparently Amoeba Records doesn't exist yet.

>Is there any difference between them all, besides the types
>of street crimes that are available?

That's a good question, and I've only completed the Traffic cases, so I can't speak with complete knowledge. I'm assuming the Homicide and Vice will allow for the Free Roam because I was only able to do 10 or so street cases while Free Roaming the Traffic Desk cases. I'm assuming the Homicide and Vice desk street crimes will be similar since I doubt the game will put too much effort in deviating the street crimes and the Traffic desk street cases didn't involve Traffic related crimes at all.

If you can though, check out the secret cars while in Free Roam mode. Some very bugged out designs.

>I don't think you can save the cars in any
>sort of garage for future use at all.

makes me much less inclined to seek the cars out if i cant store them anywhere.

The one thing this game lacks, and what Rockstar is usally excellent at, is offering variety and side activities away from the story.

GTA and RDR had minigames and a variety of other side missions like races.

LA Noire really doesnt offer much exiting to do in the city and it hurts its replay value. Searching for cars I cant save and finding landmarks isnt very rewarding or is gonna keep me coming back once I beat all the street crimes.


I love the game, but this has to be the worst replay value for any Rockstar game.

again, i'm not feeling this criticism of the game

if you want to do all that other shit, play rdr or gta or wait for the next gta

the stripped down nature of this is the point, imo...it would have corrupted their vision to throw in a bunch of stuff just to extend replay value for entitled gamers who don't have the patience to enjoy the subtelties of this game

this isnt Heavy Rain with 20 endings and every single choice you make changes the game drastically.

its a great game and i thoroughly enjoyed my playthrough of it tonight, but the replay value arguement is very valid.

Nicely done for what it is, but I don't see myself replaying the game over and over when the outcomes are the same and the only thing you can improve is your case rating. I might do it for the achievement, but that's a lot of non-skippable exposition to watch over and over again.
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"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..."
-unknown

"To Each His Reach"
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I don't even have the desire to go back and do street crimes. I'm pretty much through with the game. I'll probably sell it or let my boy take it.

to get inFamous 2. Decent game with good acting and a nice story, but there's no real long term replay value to the game.

Where the world runs in real-time around you and you have various cases to solve, but depending on how you go about solving them you miss things or things happen around you that adjust minor details of the story all the way through to the ending which could branch in 12 or 15 different ways, some large number. All the cases and evidence remained the same, as did the basic storyline and eventual path you had to take to the ending, but you could kill or not kill some of the suspects, arrest or not arrest certain suspects, chase or not chase certain people. All of which affected both your investigations and your storyline.

That's what I was hoping, and what I hope we can still get from some company inspired by this game. Blade Runner was one of my favorite games ever; even just a mere HD update of that game for consoles as DLC would make me overjoyed.

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I keep missing that one piece of evidence or question, or do something in the wrong order that would have opened up a whole new dimension to the case (I check online afterwards to see what I may have missed) but somehow still wind up getting the highest commendation.

So I'm solving the cases and getting those promotions but still not feeling right or resolved about it. That's fucking me up mentally, but in a cool, noiry way.

the game allows you to progress, even if you're a little wrong. that shit be making me feel corrupt.

http://youtu.be/hj-oWQjZ31c

bust out a 'Preeettty, preeetttty, preeetttyyy, preeetttyy good' in the middle of an interogation right when a suspect is about to confess just to through him and the whole game off.

But being that this is 1940's LA with mostly Gentile characters, I have the feeling any character in the game would rather slit their own wrists, TWO TIMES (c) Radio Raheem before emulating anything Jewish.

Speaking of 40's -isms, I was going to make a post about being dissapointed about the lack of racism and sexism in this game. Then I realized Rockstar probably doesn't want a law suit and negative attention on their hands from truly being historically accurate.

the "negro" you interview on your first traffic case, and then the dude at the jazz club when you first go to vice so far

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>the "negro" you interview on your first traffic case, and
>then the dude at the jazz club when you first go to vice so
>far

The overt racial tones definately picked up during the Vice cases.

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The game gave the feel that blacks and latinos weren't care for like the whites.

they get a little bit harder and more in depth. because some of the clues have you driving from end of the city to the other i just have my partner drive. i still don't have the interrogation and question thing down yet. i keep trying to read faces and watch the eyes but it's hard to tell and sometimes i end up going back and starting the case over but these joints are long as hell and you don't want to go through all the animations again.

titties and jesus...(c) phonte

that this game was one of the ones with a morality scale. take payoffs, kill witnesses, favor one gangster over another, or something along those lines.

to get the interrogation right. i like that the evidence and their cues aren't as cut and dried as they have been with other cases. looking forward to making vice.


and i assume this is all some military/drug/mental conspiracy with that doctor, and that cole is some sort of manchurian candidate doing all these murders or something.

Same deal as with the last few cases... I didn't feel 100% sure ANY of the suspects were guilty. The evidence was either too circumstantial or wayyyyy too convenient. Bloody tire irons on the coffee table? C'mon son.

And yeah, the interrogations were a little tougher this time, but overall I think I'm getting more comfortable with those. You kind of have to take some logic leaps with your evidence and bust people for lying if you've found anything that suggests they *might* be holding back info. It helps to assume that any evidence you've found, they have some info on too. The facial tells are getting easier to spot, too.

I still wound up charging Comrade Snarkovich and didn't feel quite as bad about this one as I did the Red Lipstick case, but still. Shit just isn't adding up. I have a feeling I'm gonna cross paths once more with that temp bartender from earlier in the game.

Oh, and for those of you looking for some GTA-style shenanigans, I accidentally discovered that roughing up hobos is apparently fair game. If you can get one in between you and your partner, you can use the hobo to knock him down domino style. Fun times.

Fuck Roy Earle. I can't believe that piece of shit giving the eulogy. Pissed me off.

SPOILER I suppose.

As much as the game foreshadowed the land devoloping case being too big for Phelps and his friendemy, I would have been disappointed if the game ended with the good guy winning 100%

These career criminals are much better at lying than the careless bammas I was dealing with in homicide.

I loved this. Also, I killed it.

finished it, loved every minute of it.

that's what this reminds me of.

i was sitting here wondering what LA noire reminded me of.

almost made me wanna find my "under the killing moon" discs.

(i can only find 2)

thats so funny you mentioned that, because I definitely had been thinking of that game recently, but I couldn't remember the name of it at all.

Under a Killing Moon.....thank you.

that game was amazing, it was the first game I remember playing that featured real actors...even if they ended up looking 16-bit. I hated that you were only limited to just walk around the one block of where his office. Look at where we are now today

Didn't that game come on like 10 CDs ?

i remember the guy that played tex, chris jones, was one of the founders of access software. he came to my high school to speak on the importance of technology and blah blah blah. all i know is tex murphy was in my school.

LA Noir is basically a point-and-click adventure game....they just did a really good job of modernizing it and bringing it to an audience raised on GTA.

ima give it a go later on...but far as its peers....Mafia 2, Red Dead, etc....its not nearly as engaging

i'm not sure where your comparison is coming from.

just because you can drive anywhere doesn't mean it's the same.

Overall, pretty great. Didn't live up to the hype, but still pretty great. It was different, it was ambitious, and it was a just plain fun world to inhabit for a little while.

The writing was... mostly good. I'd say the desks got increasingly well written, which is a good thing, and everyone owes it to himself to make it to that arson desk where everything really starts coming together. The game always feels like you're in a noire film, but it wasn't until Kelso got involved that I truly felt I was in a *good* noire film.

But there's the thing. With noire, the hero is flawed, powerless, and generally being manipulated and controlled by forces he can't hope to fully comprehend, much less defeat. That's just the genre, and there's nothing inherently wrong with it... But bringing those tropes over into video games, where it's all about empowering the user with choices and achievements, I guess I did pick up on a bit of a disconnect there. Deep down I knew I couldn't win, that there was really only one way the story could end. I was cool with it because it was noire, but I was also uncool with it because it was a video game. I wanted to win.

I'm really glad I played it, because it was a great gaming experience. I may finish up the street crimes and then trade it in, though. I think the re-play value criticisms are valid.

Seems like the game was successful enough to warrant a sequel, and if so I'm excited to see how they tackle some of the problems the game had. This was a hell of a springboard for their franchise. If they could make something so different and so good right out of the gate like that, I can't wait to see what they cook up next.

Yeah I hope there is a sequel.

Not a great game but a very good one. Reminded me of Assassin's Creed the first one. In that it was repeative, no replay value but was a great introduction to a concievable franchise. If they do a sequel, I hope they improve leaps and bounds like AC did.

and also, the civilian drivers piss me the fuck off, I'M IN A COP CAR GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE FUCKING WAY!!!

In particular, I'm curious if the DLC cases take place after the final events of the game transpire.

You're still Cole and they just get inserted into the appropriate desk


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I'm surprised people let their partner drive so much, from the podcasts I listen to. I would've thought the cars handled like the old school tank cars in Little Havana or Haiti in Vice City.

i kinda hate driving from place to place in games. the only reason i do it is to find side missions, but i feel like just moving forward with the main case then i don't waste the extra time to drive across town.

There is one case where you won't get word about a certain clue unless you're driving the car yourself. I don't know if it's required in any other cases. I finished and got 5 stars for each case, but might come up again for DLC cases.

i hated that they would give you the clues and wouldn't give you enough time to actually figure them out.

as much as i loved that sequence, it kinda broke the 4th wall for me, since it drew attention to how different this LA was from the real one.

Bekowksky got me covered, lol. If he wouldn't be such a bitch and complain about it every time he has to drive, this game would be perfect.

go here, search that, bluff so & so. i think this game would have been much better if they condensed the number of cases, and made each one a little more in depth.

it'd be cool if there were more clues and possible red herrings and they left it up to you to determine the line of investigation. i want to pick up the phone whenever i want to track a license plate number. is it a real lead, or just someone who parked close to the crime scene? let me go to the gun range, calibrate my piece. or maybe kill a hobo.

i guess i wanted something a bit more procedural, a la the old police quest games.

let me go to the
>gun range, calibrate my piece. or maybe kill a hobo.
>

thing going on now...ill rent this later and finish it

perhaps one of the most boring games ive played in a while

just terrible