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240532, RE: what are people doing w/Vega?
Posted by jimaveli, Fri Aug-20-10 10:47 PM
>>- I still hate all Ryus..even the scrubs. That insane
>overhead
>>into combo business chaps my hide. When I beat a Ryu, I want
>>to turn on my mic and cuss at them for playing with that
>lame
>>bastard.
>
>LMFAO. Ryu is some bullshit.
>Even with the nerfs. He's always just been "good". Near the
>top if he isn't the best character. I can't play him because
>my Dan game continually influences how I play all other
>"shotos" -- that I try to rush down more than I do the zone
>game.

Overhead. Crossup. Fast fireball. Priority. Throw shenanigans. Poking. EX Spin Kick with wild priority. Akuma saying "man, Ryu has a strong ass ultra 2. Wish I had his health.". Gouken saying "so, they just give him MY DAMN ULTRA!? And make it stronger!? FOHWTBS. I'ma disappear again."

>
>re: Gouki (Akuma) -- now HE is some bullshit. Forget the air
>fireballs, those are garnish. His ground game is absolutely
>nasty. He can get a vortex of sorts going.
>

I was locked in that vortex when I ate a perfect vs that A Gouki. His health makes playing with him such a huge risk. People with excellent rushdown discipline can make him a beast, but running asshole air fireballs hoecakes are victims to be because they only have to slip up a few times for it to be curtains. And most of them can't mask the Super or Ultra well enough to actually land it on a sane person.

>>- I love Makoto and the ways folks try to play her..her low
>>health is a tragedy.
>
>I've always loved Makoto (no Kells). but she is an ill fit for
>this game's mechanics and her health kills her. I can't
>believe she's considered "worse than Dan". LOL, when 3rd
>Strike Online comes out people will be using her like they use
>Ryu and Ken and Juri. She is flaming in that game.
>
>>- El Fuerto..ehh..not really liking the way folks play him
>>either. Played a B who splashed his way through life.
>Cheaped
>>me twice ftw.
>
>El Asso Wipo (or as we call him, simply "E!") is a nuisance,
>because of his constant movement. I can beat him with Dan but
>I have to be very, very, aggressive, and make no mistakes (in
>other words, I'd have to be on a pad).
>
>>- Blanka...I forgot he was on the game. Didn't like the way
>>folks played him either. Basically, I pretty much hate
>playing
>>all charge characters.
>
>I actually hate fighting him more than Guile or N!
>(Dictator/M. Bison/Vega). Because of his "button mash"
>anti-air. This is beyond his crazy normals and his
>charge/turtle game.

Dictator...arggg.

Vs mode may eventually make me better cuz I can just roll up on one character over and over and figure out how to stop their stuff. I'm trying to figure out T. Hawk right now. Ohh, he has great health and his throw feels like something I don't want a throw to feel like (great reach, can come out of nowhere, appalling priority, etc).

>
>>- I can't beat Balrog. That is all. I'll have to training
>room
>>my way to that. I HAVE to figure out what stops what,
>because
>>I refuse to believe that Gouken doesn't have anything to
>stop
>>the typical Balrog shenanigans. Right now it just feels that
>>way.
>
>The Butt Washin' Man (Boxer/Rog/Bison) is a killer. I'm not
>sure of the Gouken match up but he basically is good against
>anyone who has to depend on fireballs to survive. Plus, he has
>a moderately easy Ultra (I) set up, off his "Buffalo" move.
>

According to the tier folks, Gouken is 5-5 with almost everyone, but he has a few bad matches too. No 2-8s IIRC, but a few 3-7s and 4-6s. Add in that I'm not good yet, and I have an advantage over no one!

>>- Guile's EX flash kick is some boolsheet. The reach is what
>>has me sensitive. I played a B Guile (from my job)..got beat
>6
>>times straight on 3 outta 5 rounds. A few of them were down
>to
>>the last hit on the last round, but still...lost. I EX
>Gouken
>>Blocked Guile's ultra. That ain't right.
>
>LOL @ Gouken Blocked. I remember famously getting my ass
>kicked at a tournament against someone using Gouken. I can't
>get inside with Dan at all... you have to get the zone game
>up. And... if you didn't already know... Throw into Ultra =
>Cheese

I only do it when folks are building their whole offense around getting cheap throws. It is at that time that I do a overhead throw into Ultra 1 with no remorse. I actually laugh like Ted DiBiase when he kicked that basketball away from the kid while he was dribbling.

I like calling it Gouken Block or Kung Fu block. Or SSFIV Parry.

FADC during a special into anything..still not good at it so far. I'm still in versus mode going at a few specific CPU opponents (Balrog, Bison, THawk, Lame Bastard, etc) trying to see what has priority over what. Following that excercise, I'm appalled at what can slow down Balrog. On the same street, I'm officially a poker now. Boo.

Vega? Basically playing him like Fuerto but with a hand always on the fierce button. I played a really horrible throw shenanigans Vega that soured me on the character, but its just scrub stuff. On both sides. If I could stop it, they couldn't get away with trying to do it.

Jimaveli