>I don't know about that list. Everybody's bad match ups were
>either Ryu, Sagat, or both. Sagat is a fucking kitten now and
>Ryu was taken down a notch, so everybody went up in the tier
>list because of that. I don't know about top tier though.

Ryu still should be somewhere near there because... even with his nerfs, described below... he's still Ryu. LOL @ no more trade SRK Ultra though, that was broken as hell.

>As far as the nerfs go Sagat got it the worst. Damage
>reduction, health reduction, standing lk is two hits and only
>cancellable on the first hit. His safe tiger knee setups don't
>have as much frame advantage, taking away what little footsie
>game he had. All he really has is the fireball guantlet. If
>you get past that you won. Did you see the Evo Stream LI Joe's
>Sagat vs. FYC Ryder's Abel? The announcers were talking about
>how LI Joe remained loyal to Sagat in super? Sagat got raped,
>LI Joe switched to Ryu and got raped again lol.

Yeah, I saw that. and against Abel (who I'm going to guess was using Ultra 2)...

the new ultras are the equalizers/insta-buffs for a lot of characters I've noticed.

>Gief got a slight damage reduction and his lariat is easier to
>deal with and his lights into EX Green Hand is a one frame
>link. That shit doesn't matter to good Giefs though.

I've noticed the lariat superiority is way down. I don't even really use it too much as anti-air. I've always used that as a means of "getting in" more than anything else.

>Ryu-Guile was 6-4 Ryu in vanilla because Ryu could win the
>fireball war. Not anymore. Guile's decreased charge time can
>keep up with Ryu's fireballs and he builds EX faster than Ryu.

I didn't even notice that Guile's charge time has gone down. and the funny thing about Guile, when I use him, I rarely use EX for anything but FADC. Some matches I can just have super bar just sitting there.