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Let's go.

Someone tried to tell me that damn movie was classic hip hop not to long ago and I almost committed violence..

Could someone put the lingo down and give an explanation for those of us who don't know what a "cancel" "focus attack" etc. is?

lol

I still can't do down charges to save my life so I probably won't play with them much.

Which one of those sunzabitches has a diagonal-down-back charge? I just gave up, lol. I think on SFIV, I did Honda's ultra a few times, by total accident.

Supers. They are tough to pull off they must be easier with a stick on a pad nearly impossible.

I can't do it again to save my life. Thank goodness for his new Ultra...

Charge characters are easy to do with a stick. That was my main reason behing building one - to finally get Chun LI's ultra out.

google it for tips. You actually don't do the exact stick motion shown in the manual. It's a little different.

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once I figured out WTF it actually was

charge db then df, db, uf (it's almost like doing the DB charge than a hcb then uf)

that motion is nowhere near as bullshit as the "Geese motion" or shit they have you doing in SNK games)

Chun-Li's had that super motion before (in the Alpha games if I'm not mistaken)

LOL, no wonder I can't do it

I have all but given up even trying those bitches. Even with a stick I have trouble.

Balrog & Guiles ultras come out with ease. My fav is doing Guile's flip-kick & cancelling it into the super.

But I have been having trouble with double quater circle forward ultras. lol I can do them but they dont always come out on my 1st try.

I'd either play Zangief or Ryu.

Gief's is the easiest, imo.

For me it's more charge downback, wiggle it to df and back, just to forward instead of up forward, i hit with vega every time

his new ultra is nasty though, the slide kick hits low across the screen, doesn't do crazy damage but it's ended some fights for me

for being the lowest ranked fighter, people seem surprisingly uncertain how to deal with vega, i destroyed a guile once with him

Goes to show the genius balancing, when vega in good hands can hang with the sagats.

Xbox still getting repaired I'm hoping you doods don't blow past me while I'm patiently waiting.

If your on a sf4 adding spree, add me gt: hellbox9

learned to time the sonic boom & flash kick.. but that charge shit is for them advanced special folks.... fuuuuuuuuuck daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

And it showed tonight, I was getting my ass whooped. But I actually put together a 3 match winning streak.

XBL heads, I should (HOPEFULLY) be on this weekend.

Matter-fak, ...jus got done dl'n the dlc costume pack.
Got the homey Guy fitted up type official.

http://tinyurl.com/SFLegacy

did you guys see this ^ (didnt see it mentioned but might have missed it in the previous thread)

street fighter: legacy - a live action fan made short endorsed by capcom

I think I'm gonna main Akuma. His demon flip mixups are lovely. His stamina ain't though. I eat way too many jump ins unless I'm expecting them so I'm working on beating jump ins on reaction. With Rog it was a quick down and fierce button or a medium punch button. With Akuma it's a SRK motion. I'm gonna be playing HDR to get my SRK/ down fierce game up.

I mean GG yesterday
lol

do you experience lag? i need a smaller set for a separate room that i'm making into a game room and was wondering if the response time of lcd's throws you off. i always hated having to calibrate with music games and since fighting games don't have that luxury it seems like that could really screw up your game. a 2-5 ms lag could be death in SSFIV.

the faster the better. it could also be packet loss it happens all the time to me, ask anyone who plays against or with me online.

my question is how bad it actually affects your play.

My patience is running low with Dee Jay.

He doesn't seem to have much priority. His moves get stuffed a lot.
With the exception of his j.lp, c.mk and c. hk, his normals have very little use.
I'm almost ready to go back to Guile.

Maybe I need more rhythm?
I'll keep practicing.

It was like the second day the game was out too.

but even so
that crossover nonsense
I'm gonna have to figure it out
LOL, I saw one of his replays a couple nights ago

you got to play dee jay alittle different than guile. I try to annoy the opponent until they come near me. score that untechable knockdown then cross up people for fraaaaaaaaaaaaaay with j.mk. his c.lp is godlike. After hitting someone with a cross-up try cr.lp,cr.lp, cr.mk for a untechable knockdown. Then rinse and repeat. also tick throw with cr.lp. for anti-air I use s.fp, lk upkicks or ex upkicks. If you can't tech throws well then dee jay says that you have no rhythm and you fraaaaaaaaaay.

btw I play this game waaaaaaaaaay too much. I already probably have 100 hours. feel free to ask me any dee jay questions.

here is a good dee jay tutorial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQCMqj5gsRg

i had the mic off but could hear him through the tv saying that all I do is honda's headbut why don't I walk up to him (while he's constantly trying to grab and spin) lol. FOH

RandomIdiot: 'YOU DO THE SAME SHIT OVER AND OVER YOU SUCK'
Me: 'No..you LET ME do the same thing over and over again you bint!'

Ive messed around with Rose before (hell, I remember in Alpha only used her and Guy).

Ive been using mainly charge characters since I switched to a stick (guile/Holda/Boxer) for SF4, and I have been wanting to use more fireball types just to get the skills back.

But for super, me and her just clicked, I think Im gonna ride that train for the time being.

it's been damn near 2 decades since I was using them for SFII but a lot of things don't feel right on the controller.

I just main E. Honda but I'm going to venture out and try a few other characters

He's awesome. Only flaw was fireball types could play a good keepaway, but I figure it was only fair since if he could go through fireballs=GOAT.

That's why I laughed at your Sagat, story: fuck that dude. After you WORK (and that shit is work) to get in on that fucker, all it took was a well aimed Tiger Knee and you were back to square one.

so everyone else feels weird to me and I like that I can pull off the Ocho easier with the PS3. Going through Fireballs is the truth and gets those fuckers upset which in turns brightens my day lol.

Do I have you on PSN? If not check the sig, your tara's brother right?

PSN is 'krazenkills' (sucks, but it's the closest I could get to the xbox).

I got a copy a few days ago, but I haven't had a chance to play. The clouds clear by next week, and imma hop on.

Im aiming for BFNH and jetblack! Im bringing the pain!

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*ding dong*
I WILL REPRESENT BY WHUPPIN UR AR$E WORD IS BOND!

need to erase someone on the 360

SAY YOU SCARED! © Khujo Goodie.

got a few quick matches in.... and oddly, the shoto's moves & ultras come out super easy! BUT... my chargers who are also my mains (Balrog & Guile) dont come out as easy as they did on the normal controller. WTF?
Maybe I gotta just get used to it.

though my Guile game is pretty much assholia.

Balrog I have some issues with, though, that's because he's got a LOT to deal with.

ok, plyr.

it's harder than I thought after a year of playing this on the 360 but i'm prolly somewhere around 40-50% right now but that'll change soon

I better have a copy of Little Brother's Leftback album along wit that Juri Fightpad when I get to the crib.. i'mma be on that b*tch like BLAGGAGGBLAGGA BLAOW BALOAW!!!!!!! CLIK CLIK CLIKKKIKILIKLIK CLIKK..

Cause I'm contemplating getting this and 2k10

though you'll only get a good few months out of 2k10 before the next one drops.

it's better than the regular one and is only 39. Can't beat that.

I need to get some sleep. Y'all ain't gonna tee off on me half sleep. Now, wide awake, I'll accept the ass whuppin that's coming to me.

Jet, we have to get you a better connection...

LOL

...add me on XBL "CHIEFWON"

*broken record/scratched CD/shittly encoded mp3*

He did NOT appreciate that, LOL

FUCK!

I'll be back in a few.

Who else is getting on?

Which means game time. Plenty of game time...

I'm out of shape in SF.

Feels good.
:)

i'm going to watch IP Man 2 and get inspired now. I should have beat all of you and showed that it was possibly but... yeah IP Man 2 time now...

:D

that's a double win. full of golden win. dude is REALLY good and you gotta WORK for that W.

You have to bring your A game playing against his Gief.

Gamertag = Fe1on1ous Monk

Friend me.

Maining Guy and learning Ibuki.

Played Chun and Rufus on regular 4.

Can also play a decent Rose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhz9Aa6tDwk&feature=player_embedded

online still playing?

This damn Tekken stick be sliding all over the table when I use it. It's kinda heavy but not heavy enough. Any of yall got them other 2 sticks? I'm thinking of getting the Marvel vs Capcom joint.

I got the Madcatz TE stick and the fight pad.

The Madcatz joint is sick. Great weight to it so its not sliding around at all. I tried it for about 2 weeks, but I've come to believe my hands are too small for the buttons on a stick. I can execute pretty well on the pad.

I'm probably going to sell the Madcatz stick.

Swap the feet and it may stop sliding as much. That said, if you do get that TE, get it dual modded. Just hit me up...

The whole thing is big enough where I can just put it on my lap instead of on a table. If you put it on a table, it won't go anywhere, either.

I have an SE stick too. That's a bit smaller so your hands can't really rest on it as well, but then again, I haven't used it enough to know if it slides around or not. Like spenz said, you probably could just put some different feet on the hori and be fine.

I'd be like uh oh, better watch out right about now. lol

I could hear someone banging away the whole time.

I've got you all down on my hit list... just thought I'd give you a heads up.


btw Lach do your logo thingy and pic and you'll get a trophy

>btw Lach do your logo thingy and pic and you'll get a trophy

I know. I've just been lazy with the game. I never even play any matches nowadays other than against okayplayers.

(and a HRAP EX-SE)
they generally stay put.

PSN: Dr_Claw_77
X360: Dr Claw 077

you see The Doc in the e-streets, holla

- integrated Ethernet AND wireless = GOOD!
- being able to use USB keyboards and controllers? = GOOD!
- not having to pay Geld to use online? = GOOD!
- being able to use my spare Bluetooth headset? = GOOD!

install base, certain exclusives, and that prohibitive price tag are the only reason I wasn't aboard earlier.

I'm diggin' this shit. Can't wait until my PS2 to PS3 controller adapter gets here. in the meantime I can play with the USB Saturn pad.

All these random USB peripherals I have just work.

It's hard for me to play shotos with a stick.

the goddamn Shoryuken shortcut is THE WORST THING EVER.
how many times have I wanted a simple Gadouken when I either get Koryuken (which is OK w/Dan since I'm usually in their face anyway) or worse... SUPER. I never use it with Dan, barely with Ryu or Ken. Let's not talk about what happens w/ultras.

for some reason, I can't play 360 characters on a stick. I can get jump in 720s, but standing 360s keep screwing me up something awful. Or it might just be Hakan since he has other joystick motion moves.

I'm this close to switching out the restrictor plate to the octagon but I feel I need to learn how to play this game on the square gate.

http://twitter.com/LOQuent/status/13687100998

:)

Whupped in a coctail dress

:)

thanks for helping the W/L ratio 73%

those of you who have been over to srk should have seen this by now.
but, this is why it's so tough to put the 'gief down.
zangief grab range.
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4240/znaguiefcommandgrab.jpg

just look at that huge blue range of unsafety.



got most of adon's hitbox info now and gonna spend some time w/it tonight looking for the perfect answer to deep jump ins.
coupled w/some astute frame data & some time in the lab, the jaguar should be ready for battle.


or, i'll just break out ryu #3 and beast.

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>those of you who have been over to srk should have seen this
>by now.
>but, this is why it's so tough to put the 'gief down.
>zangief grab range.
>http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4240/znaguiefcommandgrab.jpg
>
>just look at that huge blue range of unsafety.

Gief will still traditionally have issues w/ ranging characters (and keep-out whores like Seth, or straight up bitch-shit like Weasel's kunai shenanigans), but the fact that I can basically grab 'em from Gadouken range with a 360 negates that.

compare that to Hakan. god damn, he is looking like the "Dan" of grapple characters. Not because of his jokes, and "unique" abilities... but his 360+P has NO range. like, you basically gotta be sniffing someone's cologne just to grab 'em. his 360+K is better but it can be ducked.

even off brands like Birdie and Sodom were better than that. cmon.

is it me or is his Green hand "SNK"-ing (read: interrupting) people outta specials/supers and ultras beyond projectiles more often?

I dunno. Gief might be weakened but he is still Gief. the "Gouki" of grapplers.

YES I used Google first you evil muhfuckas...

I like being able to listen to your own soundtrack while still playing an online battle. Kind of blew me it would cut off on the OG SFIV. Having your rank change individually with each player is pretty cool, but means much more work if you're into the whole 100% completion thing. The replays are a nice touch. You can watch to see where you're fucking up and try to make some changes there. The netcode seems a little better this go round. I haven't had a dropped game yet, and only a few games with noticeable lag or slowdown.

I do notice there have been a LOOOOT of annoying ass Ryu fighters as of late, more so than Ken players from SFIV.

how many BP/PP you need to move to another letter grade (or even plus) any clue?

The replays would be 1000% percent better if you could fast forward & rewind

>how many BP/PP you need to move to another letter grade (or
>even plus) any clue?

options > character data

There's an online ranking section that will show you your current BP for the character you are viewing in addition to how many you need to level.

It's Player Data, Player Records, then Character Records.
Switch to the Ranked Match Progress screen after you select a character and you will see a stat titled Next Rank Up.

What's with certain character challenges that are simply a couple of button presses (i.e. Makoto's -> Stand L punch -> Stand M punch)? Is it a timing thing? They're not target combos and I don't think they're cancels... Why can't I clear these? Am I missing something here?

you only have 1 or 2 frames to make those moves connect. they can be pretty difficult. much like the supers, the point is to show you what is possible. the link combos are there to show you what can be done.

you can't just mash and cancel one move w/the next like a target or cancel, you've got to wait for the move to end and then hit the next move during your opponents hitstun.


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good ol' Just Frame action...

Hard Punck
Medium Kick
Hard Sumo Headbutt

Done it a million times and can pull it off but the idiot blocks the headbutt *grrr*

I"ll do enough to unlock some colors and tiles, but I'm not killing myself on combos for people I know for sure I'm not gonna use. Besides I just don't have the time or desire to go that hard on most of these characters. I may do Chun's at some point.

that's why it's irksome.

apparently you can cancel her dashing punch into her super (which just a power-up) and somehow combo/cancel THAT into her ultra I. like 5 fireball motions in about 1 second, but don't throw out her shoryuken-motion special by accident. wtf...

>apparently you can cancel her dashing punch into her super
>(which just a power-up) and somehow combo/cancel THAT into her
>ultra I. like 5 fireball motions in about 1 second, but don't
>throw out her shoryuken-motion special by accident. wtf...

if not for the Shoryuken shortcut, anything involving Hadouken motion would be easier.

I wish it would be banished with an update -- it helps no one. Not even "Shoto" users.

godDAMMIT if i get an ex dragon punch motion special instead of a double fireball ultra one more time i'm throwing my xbox into heavy traffic

i didn't finish anyone's challenges in vanilla. i had to mash out that s.FP, c.MK link.

i really like that they give out the 3D cube icons easier now. they are by far my favorite thing to use in a title. for the moment, i'm rockin' that t-hawk flag, though.



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His HP x 3 isn't possible unless you sneak in a QCF + P, LP between each one

only to get my ass beat..bad...repeatedly by my most hated characters Sagat, Seth (this dude's roll grab is some bullshit) and ever single crappy ass character that I haven't figured out how to punish yet. I lost about 10 in a row and turned the fucking PS3 off, smoked a cig then plopped on the 360 with nba 2k10 and whipped this dude playing the Cavs until he quit.

I'm STILL in a bad mood.


good news is that I can pull off Honda's Super and Ultra I pretty easily now.

i got beat 5 times by the weird choices like T.Hawk and Rose...

W/L holding steady @ 72%.

but T. Hawk, Sagat, Able and that fucker who does that downward sideways kick shit were using me as their own personal punching bags. I was glad the kids were asleep because they would have seen some very painful looks on Daddy's face when cats played with me to get off Ultra finishes :-(

Usually I manhandle Rose but if someone plays her right she's a fucking pain in the ass.

just something I gotta do.
:)

i saw you getting shook last time we played.

LOL
Yeah you had me against the ropes for a MILLISECOND LOL

http://www.destructoid.com/psa-super-street-fighter-iv-s-second-costume-dlc-is-live-173472.phtml


http://www.capcom-unity.com/jgonzo/blog/2010/05/11/second_set_of_super_street_fighter_iv_alternate_costumes_now_available

Village People. SMH.

but I can't help but buy them.

Did they announce that?

i wont be buying until they get some new Chun-Li outfits :D

Right now I never play till I get into the ring with yall and get my head busted open. lol

LOL
:D

Who's gonna be up to whup my ass?

As for the costumes, I'll probably just wait until they're all available and buy them at once. Then again, I bought the others when they dropped, so I may rethink that strategy.

And I'm itching to get this case finished so I can start working on this super ultra mega gamma fight stick. It's going to be sooooo cold...

Shit's pissing me off.

i'm under the impression that the matchmaking hates me specifically.

got bad company 2 in right now because we're not speaking.

people are getting REALLY good REALLY fast or don't have jobs LOL

I think part of it (for me, at least) was the jump from D to C, i.e. going from folks mashing buttons to those who know how to put some nice combos together and understand their character's strengths + weaknesses. Also I decided to start playing ranked matches with makoto and she kind of sucks (read: I kind of suck) against space contollers like the shotos and grabbers like gief, and that's all I saw last night (with a few juris mixed in)

*goes back to training mode*

YO.. where u go yesterday! I beat Syncere (Juri v Chung-Li) right after u left.. He put a serious beating on u wit Chung-Li though man.. i swear that kids got a turbo laced controller or something.

she broke her little Phillips portable DVD thing so she FADC->Ultra'd I had to jump off. Syncere99's Chun is BEASTLY.

cats were ranking up on me 'n shit. FINALLY got a few wins in but the last couple of days fucked up my damn stats hoard.

Example. I was over 1000PP and dropped down to a little over 400 :-(

I'm going at lunch to cop this. I need to get my game up.

just got my fixed 360 in, lets go! endless battle, hope the rust shakes off quick.....


gamertag okp's name
hellbox9 steelreserve40
LOQuent
trkc21 Marauder21
Tha End KnowOne
CamDynamite Cam_eleon
Great1 2k7 Great1_2k6
LACHzilla Lach
CHIEFWON sp1200
Fe1on1ous Monk Eccentric
Dr Claw 077 who the fuck do you think


add em up (c) violent femmes, lets get some okp endless battles going

irks me that I got fucked out of the 2 extra character colors because I switched to the ps3 but overall it's a better experience with the controller. When I get my dual system stick I'll cop for the 360 one too.

You know I gotta needle you on that. Still want the wireless deal, right?

just need to check the feel of a few more things and then I can know what the hell your talking about when you describe stuff.

Hadnt had time to play the past 2 weeks, but should be on tonight & throughout the weekend.

Maybe we should get a semi-permanent list going of all the names across both systems, and not just for SF: I can just edit the post as needed

why don't you do it so you can edit the original post or can you edit other people's posts?

nm

btw...I suck at SF now..I main the agressive shotos (Sagat too) and I don't get to play enough to get good with a character I'd like to...Boxer/Balrog for instance. Dee Jay too. Either way, I tend to favor high punishment type of characters to give me a chance..I hate the weaker characters because I can't punish folks the way I'd like to when they slip up.

Gamertag is the same as the name here: jimaveli

>just got my fixed 360 in, lets go! endless battle, hope the
>rust shakes off quick.....
>
>
>gamertag okp's name
>hellbox9 steelreserve40
>LOQuent
>trkc21 Marauder21
>Tha End KnowOne
>CamDynamite Cam_eleon
>Great1 2k7 Great1_2k6
>LACHzilla Lach
>CHIEFWON sp1200
>Fe1on1ous Monk Eccentric
>Dr Claw 077 who the fuck do you think
>
>
>add em up (c) violent femmes, lets get some okp endless
>battles going

Let's go!
My gt: hellbox9

Send me a friend request, I play this game all the time and would love an endless battle with some people who play consistently.

GT: Fe1on1ous Monk
Playing Chun and Guy, learning Abel now.

Can you send me the link to that article about mvc2/fighting game balancing? I'd love to check it out

Although it was funny as shit getting my ass beat while listening to potty training bits and Shark Tale DVDs. The joy of having kids I tell you...

Hope that wine tasting was decent. I go to those to drink NOT to spit LOL :)

Then again, she wasn't driving either. Now, if it were a Johnnie Walker tasing, she would have been short.

I'll probably hop on for a while after the Jack Bauer Power Hour, provided I don't have diapers to change

http://hiphopgamershow.ning.com/profiles/blogs/confirmed-marvel-vs-capcom-3

NEW INFO on MvC3. HHG starts DANCING LMFAO oh no.

I've been playing a shitload of Able's lately and losing to weak ass players.

Been playing with Abel, here's some help:

Tornado Throw has priority over any normal throw, so if you're not playing with a grappler get out of there.

Ex tornado throw I believe has priority over normal moves and throws so, get out of there.

His change of direction chain has to be blocked standing. (the one that combos) If you are blocking low for the last 2 hits you will still get thrown.

Finally, the Breathless ultra is probably the best ultra on the game. It is unblockable, quick, travels instantly almost full screen, you can hold the button to delay it, you can cancel it, and it has one hit armor. It also takes about half life. You shouldn't jump at an Abel with ultra unless you cross him up, and don't miss a special move close to him or you're toast. Best to try to bait it out by jumping repeatedly from a distance.

Just started playing with him in the last two weeks for all the above reasons.

thanks for the info and I'll try and figure out some ways to punish him but after reading this... it seems that it will be a long hard grind.

Who do you play with?

Basically, you just don't want to get into a throwing match with a good Abel and if you get him on the ground, feel free to attack him because he doesn't have a good reversal. If he rolls you can either throw him or hit him low during the roll.

I play with Chun alot also and if you get Abel on the ground, you can pretty much mix him up all you want. (your average Abel) I've played some though that I couldn't get close to because they seemed to roll at just the right time.

You should probably EX sumo smash when you think he's gonna grab if you have charge. The TT won't grab you out of the air.

You can also neutral jump out of it, but if Abel thinks you are doing that he can Falling Sky you so mix it up.

Also, Breathless Ultra has one hit armor. So if you see someone activate it you can headbutt them out of it since its armor break. Just makes sure you do a fierce headbutt because if you do a jab or medium and it doesn't get there he can just delay the ultra until you come out of it and kill you then.

General strat wise, you can throw him or sweep him in the middle of his roll. If you try towards the end of his throw animation, you'll most likely get thrown so time it right.

He doesn't have a reliable reversal on wake up besides rolling out of trouble, so if you get a knockdown, jump in with a meaty attack. He'll be forced to block or roll out of there. As soon as he starts rolling out of trouble every time you can expect it and punish him for it.

HIs block string mixups are tricky as hell. that step kick will leave you in a lot of block stun and it leaves you and abel neutral on frames. If you see that kick he'll most likely go for the throw to see how you react to it. Depending on how you react to the first throw, the Abel player will adjust accordingly. Neutral jump and come down with a combo.

jumping out of strings isn't as reliable as back dashing. Don't become too predictable with the back dashes though, as Abel can sense a back dash and sweep

That one throw he has KILLS Gief on wake up.

bearfield and i were talking about this the other nite as he signed on with ZERO battle points.

i was running through people on D class with ease, even got a 10 win streak when i first started playing 'rog, got up to 1400 BP.

now that I'm on C class, im struggling to push 1000 BP, and each win is damn close.

I'm not even thinking about trying new characters on ranked matches, lest I get my ass handed to me EVERY time.


360 gt: hellbox9
maining balrog, chun li, and vega

:)

These new characters are kinda dope but man It feels like all my skills have gone away. I'm refusing to play with Ken until I get good with someone new. I'm not seeing none of yall until I feel I'm ready.

we are here to help. you may get beat down to a pulp but you learn quickly.

= Bad parenting

Tombout C. Viper's ending. Shit was hilarious.

Started messing with her this weekend. I'm digging her keep-away game + her dumb quick dash. Her ex soul throw beats most air attacks and she can slide under super/ultra fireballs. Plus she builds meters like crazy. She's got some nice combos too, including a boxer-esque poke combo. And then there's her amazingly useful Ultra I that eats absolutely everything. So useful on wakeup...

http://shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=237344

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/21/super-street-fighter-iv-getting-balance-fixes-along-with-dlc-nex/

According to Andriasang's translation of a post on Capcom's Japanese blog, the developer is planning to roll out a patch for Super Street Fighter IV on June 15 -- the same day as the release of the game's Tournament Mode DLC -- which will remove a few exploits and address some balancing issues players have discovered since the title's launch. For the full list of (highly technical) changes included in the update, just click past the jump.

The patch remedies a few sizable issues, such as the unblockable Ultra exploit -- however, it doesn't return E. Honda's "Thousand-Hand Bitch Slap" maneuver to its original, unbeatable glory. Hopefully that particular fix will come in a later update.




-Fei Long's infinite combo loop against Juri will be removed.
-Unblockable Ultras will be fixed. This is where you throw a fireball and the Ultra flash made it so your opponent could not block.
-Guy will no longer be able to be thrown while he's crouching and in hit stun animation. A bug made it possible to combo throw moves while he was in this state.
-Ibuki's invincibility window on wake up -- under certain circumstances -- was too long, this will be fixed.
-The 2nd hit of Ibuki's Spinning Kicks missing Chun-Li will be fixed.
-Counter hit damage on M. Bison's (Dictator) Ultra 2 was too low.
-Sagat's Angry Charge was not working properly in some instances (EX-Tiger Uppercut doesn't get damage upgrade in some cases).

I looked up on SRK why they even exist... there is no benefit to doing unnatural, undocumented replacements for other moves. All it does is add more complexity where there should be none. This is Street Fighter, not Tekken -- I shouldn't be putting in neutrals in the middle of standard "Hadouken" inputs.

An ultra is no good if you only get 1 or 2 hit soutof it in most situations (unless you trap them in a corner. In open space, it's a crapshoot). Her super seems to work fine, as it draws her toward the opponent while it connects, but you really need to use her super gauge for her EX moved more than anything, so that's not too much help there.

1. Justin Wong (obviously)
2. Flash Metroid
3. Inthul ( a PAD Fei Long that perfected Sanford fucking Kelly's Sagat and Arturo Sanchez's Seth)

Shit was too fucking hype.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lG06m_NDbM&feature=player_embedded

just for us SF nerds..just watch it.

http://www.destructoid.com/sundays-with-sagat-what-s-a-videogame-for--174369.phtml

tiger?

decided i was gonna pick up Abel as an alt. incorporating f+MK into my game is such a different mechanic than anyone else i've ever used.

after pumping him to c i decided i might as well get that c to shining c trophy. however, to get to C, you need 1000 BP. you never lose BP until you reach C, which is good. the least you can get from a match (when you are ranked D, D+) is 50BP although i've been able to get 70+ from some matchups. so, you'll need ~20 wins with each character to get them up to the C level. so, we're talking 20 wins * 35 characters = 700 matches? who the hell thought that was a good idea?


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>so, we're talking 20 wins * 35 characters = 700 matches? who the hell thought that was a good idea?

If you go to Vs mode, just pick a character and everything normal, then quit as soon as the fight starts. Keep doing this over and over and you'll get all of a character's taunts/colors.

It's really tedious and I only did it once, but I might do it for some of the fighters I really don't like using.

>If you go to Vs mode, just pick a character and everything
>normal, then quit as soon as the fight starts. Keep doing this
>over and over and you'll get all of a character's
>taunts/colors.
>
>It's really tedious and I only did it once, but I might do it
>for some of the fighters I really don't like using.

it's less frustrating than the old method (trial mode... it had some ridiculous challenges) but still

real tedious, as you said

I might do that way down the road.

I wanted to pick him up but I think I'm gonna roll with Makoto for fun. It's a hell of an uphill battle I know, but it feels good landing a Karakusa after you got somebody scared to press buttons.

http://www.kuhvet.com/2010/05/24/super-street-fighter-iv-review/
So Bay wit it.

Tell me about it.

Been playing him alot lately, but ultimately I run into a mad jumper and I just can't get my anti-air options in order with him.

I'll build my PP back up with Chun and try him again.

IIRC I completed most of makoto's trials and went into my 1st ranked match w/ her with around 450 BP

i've done a ton of trials for all of the characters and you don't get it that way.

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link?
use your cotdamm Google...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giPwPLVWxQ0

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that video completely sums up why I have used Dan since SFA2.

Thanks for the positivity players...

now let's break in this FIGHTPAD!

And you can't play Chun on a pad as easily (although ultra II will be easier to do)

I can pull off the Original super and the ultra. The ultra 2 just happens now. Won 3 in a row last night and called it a day. It's kind a awkward right now but I'll get the hang of it soon.

Time to ULTRA this interview!!

Ive been not too big a fan of the low hp chars, but she's nasty as hell. Great damage, good combo's, lots of annoying tricks...right up my alley. Plus, she's so nimble+quick that it's easy to escape alot of traps.

Hit me up. I'm at midas right now but I should be back at the command center.
You bastard know I don't have no job like Tommy right now.

Ill e-harass ya if I see ya.

one of my online peeps plays a VERY annoying Juri... kinda glad I didn't run into many Juri folks online yet

I used him for probably the first 2-3 weeks after the game came out and have almost 4000 battle points with him. He really sucks in some matchups and he whiffs alot of his moves which is very annoying.

Both of his target combos don't hit crouchers which is a big problem and his crossup spacing is iffy.

What I will say is that he is a ton of fun to play with. However, when you fight a good Honda, Bison, Balrog, or Blanka, good luck to you.

I'm trying to learn him now.
He's frustrating to use, but, like you said, he's fun.


His overhead is slow and, like you said, he whiffs a lot.
>I used him for probably the first 2-3 weeks after the game
>came out and have almost 4000 battle points with him. He
>really sucks in some matchups and he whiffs alot of his moves
>which is very annoying.
>
>Both of his target combos don't hit crouchers which is a big
>problem and his crossup spacing is iffy.
>
>What I will say is that he is a ton of fun to play with.
>However, when you fight a good Honda, Bison, Balrog, or
>Blanka, good luck to you.

Hit me up online should be on until around 8 or 9 east.

Fe1on1ous Monk is the tag.

gamertag is bearfield

All I can say is ooohhhhhh......whether I win another match I'll be sure I have a stick much more pimpin than yours. L_O, you can't have one of these (but yours is in process)

Yours would have been farther along but it took some time to get the case commissioned. Don't worry, you will have some hotness. Just not as hot as mine....

are with the grandparents which would give me some time to get used to it.

WTF is that?
LoL
it's fucking GOLDEN to get time just to game.

I got one W in after getting whipped on like 10 times.

i've used her twice in trying to get my c to shining c trophy and have beat people i had no business beating.

got adon up to B class and went back to using the rest of the cast. i still wish he had that extra 50 hp, but i can see how that might make him a bit "too" good. plus, i wouldn't be as cautious w/him as i am now. his standing roundhouse & crouching strong are just monstrous. not having them when i play w/other characters really throws my game off.

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Amon has a mean DJ and Guile.

Claw I don't think I got to play you but once before you took off.

Down to play anytime fellas, look me up or post when you think you're getting on.

>Amon has a mean DJ and Guile.
>
>Claw I don't think I got to play you but once before you took
>off.
>
>Down to play anytime fellas, look me up or post when you think
>you're getting on.

If not for accidentally hitting that XBOX button (was using the HRAP, and there's no "lock" function) Dan's epic choke wouldn't have happened.

Check throughout this week, I should be back to working on it.

Work is killing me, so I'm missing my nightly ass whippings.

In other news, my case came in last night. It's going to be an absolute bitch to wire everything up, but it's going to be so flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy when it's done.

To get an idea of what I'm working with, have a look at the case builder's flickr stream. If you're interested, I'll get his info. But they aren't cheap!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/56701743@N00

We have to do it again soon.

I did, but I haven't used it yet.

it's only fun when you play with people you know or people that have headsets. Otherwise you do all that fighting for trophy.jpg. No titles or nothing from what I know.

i'm getting rid of a bunch of stuff, that's one thing that's gonna go. HRAP EX for 360. its modded with white/clear for all the main 6 buttons as well as the start and select buttons. also has a clear sanwa ball top. still have the original buttons and black ball top for it too.

make me offer otherwise it going to ebay or something.

i'm just IGHT at this game.
lol

Otherwise, we would have traded blows. Tomorrow should be doable at some point

Hate, hate Chun Li and her foolishness. I beat jet one time with
THawk and I swear he gave the sticks to one of his kids while
he went to the john.

I'm still learning this game even tho I've played sparringly since
SFII. Just now learning the terminology of words like crossups,
cancels and mixups. Also why EX are neccessary in combos.

Looking at YouTube vids to learn.

I'm ight, getting better.

Seen some folks hate playing Chun. I did at once. It's a lot easier for me now so I'm not mad anymore.

She's like a quicker, more mobile Guile. She can press the offense better than Guile can because of her pokes and she's almost as good at zoning because of her numerous anti air options. But once you get her on her back you can get that damage right back if not more.

You can safe jump the shit out of Chun. If you time it right It beats all her options on wakeup (jumping straight up, EX Bird, regular bird etc.) except back dash, and even then you can OS a sweep in so even if she tries to back dash she'll end up on her back again. (Here's looking at you Jetblack lol) All she can do is block if you time it right with an OS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=9Xf1yHejfIE

Jetblack handed me tons of Ls at first. Until that right there up above lol

That flip kick (Hazanshu?) can be focused as well as a lot of her pokes.

If a Chun tries the other flip kick on your wakeup (the down forward HK one) and it's timed right ain't nothing you can do except block or teleport if you have it. And even then it's risky.

Anti air all of her jump ins if you can. They are floaty as shit. If you don't it's a mixup. I've seen some Chuns empty jump in baiting a throw tech from me and Hazanshu, lk, EX legs, Ultra. All from a fucking throw tech.

i had to turn my shit OFF..lol

anyone else running into this?

http://shoryuken.com/threads/235273-SSF4-Freezing-on-Arcade-Mode-on-PS3

It's happening for more and more people.

I hope Sony, Capcom fix this shit ASAP.

The XMB still worked, leading me to guess it's an SSFIV problem.

They definitely need to fix that tho. The only thing you can do is quit the game.

WTF changed from yesterday?

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/spenzalii/El%20Kabong2/KnockOffTemplate.jpg

L_O, this ain't yours, but it's coming. Don't worry, your E.Honda stick will be worth the wait.

The overlay is from a BlazBlue template. The real stick art will be a tad more involved. Especially once the print shop guy gets his equipment set up right...

Rose is about to hit the hate list, because of her throw game shenanigans. It's almost Gief-level annoyance.

Of course I could sell out and use Ryu or Sagat or someone like that to actually keep that from happening, but FOH.

I also need to learn how -not- to end up jumping while doing certain rolling motions on the controller; I'm also having a time w/the charge characters.

Anyone out here using Crotch Viper?

I'm strictly Chun-li but I'll try to get that C to shining C trophy just for fun.

smh

all losers take your Ls home, don't bring em back.

Justin Wong's Rufus didn't make top 8. Taken out by Gamerbee's Adon. This was after Vangeif's pad Zangief (this nigga can do walking 720s on a pad!) put him in losers. Shout out to Chief. I have yet to beat his Gief with my Akuma. bfnh you play Adon right?

Mike Ross's honda is in top 8.
Vangief's pad Zangief is in top 8.
No Abel or Rufus in top 8 I believe

Shit is crazy this year.

Oh and this lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvigCN9hhTo

Winners
Mike Ross (Honda) vs. Daigo (Ryu)
Vangief (Zangief) vs. Ricky Ortiz (Rufus)

Losers
Infiltration (Akuma) vs. Shizza (Chun-Li)
Gamer Bee (Adon) vs. Henry Cen (primarily Honda)

COME GET SOME!

>Vangief's pad Zangief is in top 8.
>No Abel or Rufus in top 8 I believe

I was mad as SHIT when Tokido's Gouki dropped to a Rufus, when he had a round of chip damage left to seal the deal.

that Gouki was... damn. Gouki is some SHIT on the ground. I didn't even know.

pad Zangief? Is he using Madcatz or some other pad?
I can already hear the vehement anti-"pad warrior" fools on SRK jumping off the bridge.

even a toned down, slightly nerfed Gouki is beastly. He was godlike in vanilla. But in Super that fucking Rufus matchup is the worst. It's a bad match up for Gouki if rufus has ultra 2. As Gouki you spend most of the match zoning with fireballs or baiting out his EX meter. When he has ultra 2, fireballs or jumping from half screen will get you killed. Not to mention that fucking EX Jesus kick once he gets meter. and he's a fucking tank. he can risk doing stupid shit as long as he can guess right twice. Gouki does anything stupid half of his life is gone.

Fuck rufus lol

>Gouki does anything stupid half of his life is gone.

Rufus is still like the most annoying character in the game... largely because as you said, he can afford to be stupid.

I don't even know if Sagat has that option, but to be top dog he has to be (he still isn't as popular in tourneys though, I'm thinking it's because people are either trying not to be "banned" or the reason he's there is because he's just too complicated a character to wholly wield that power).

Rufus has the most free ultra setups in the game. No EX meter needed. I think Ryu has some meter-free ultra set up but those are mostly situation... it's not like FADC where, you have to make sure you don't get caught in a SRK string at all.

if Gouki didn't take "Jouki" (JOKEY) damage... he'd just be ... I don't even want to imagine it.

he still probably couldn't get out of that Rufus match-up on U2 unless he was super crafty, though.

>pad Zangief? Is he using Madcatz or some other pad?
>I can already hear the vehement anti-"pad warrior" fools on
>SRK jumping off the bridge.
>

You have a better feel if someone honed their skills at an arcade (old school style) or at home based on pad play. You have beatlyplayers either way, but the technique is very different from a stick player than a pad player

>You have a better feel if someone honed their skills at an
>arcade (old school style) or at home based on pad play. You
>have beatlyplayers either way, but the technique is very
>different from a stick player than a pad player

though, you know, it's gotten to the point that there are people who try to offer the scientific reasoning as to why it's an easier (read: better) run on the stick.

which mostly, I agree with -- the access to so many buttons (esp. in SFIV) on a flat set up is crucial. though I'm in the stage where I still get overly nervous doing something like a FADC routine.

on pad, I've gotten to the point (w/Dan) where KRK, if see I have meter means FADC shenanigans. I'm trying to wean off that though.

That said, if you are an OG, you cut your teeth on sticks. Heavy ass, clicky sticks if you were in the US. Like most people, I've played on pads since SNES/Genesis days. Once the arcade crash came, there really wasn't a choice. In those 15+ years I got good on a pad, especially with shotos, since I never used them in the arcade. But charge characters were always ALWAYS better for me on a stick.

I can still go back and forth between the two, but given my druthers I'd go with a stick. Considering I've built 4 and have another 3 projects waiting in the wings, I'd say it's easy to see where I lean on this.

someone had a custom Dreamcast stick with a Happ stick in there. I hadn't used one of those in years. If only they could remain so ... I dunno what the word is, "elastic"


>But charge characters were always ALWAYS better for me on a stick.

and they still are, IMO
now there are some crafty thing the Rog/Boxer heads do to get the "Butt Washer" (aka The Bidet aka the Buffalo Head Butt) to go into either the super or the ultra that I would have never thought until I read it somewhere (charge DB, then UB + Punch)

>I can still go back and forth between the two, but given my
>druthers I'd go with a stick. Considering I've built 4 and
>have another 3 projects waiting in the wings, I'd say it's
>easy to see where I lean on this.

Ever since Alpha he's given me fits with that Jag. Kick/ Jag. Tooth bullshit. Fuck Adon....

only difference is you can't really make them pay for spamming it. Grapplers would probably eat that shit once it's blocked, but anybody else has to risk getting a risinjagga if they press a button.

I will admit I gave him a run that night after Gamerbee pulled off the upset.

He is too high risk reward for me and having low health with that is a bad combination.

Mike Ross showed that if he makes a couple mistakes you can really hurt him for it.

gt: hotep

>gt: hotep

I should've been on there. I'm on now. I'm better (Gouken) than I have been, but I'm still not good. And I still find myself losing waaaaaaay too much..especially to lame late-round shenanigans. I played one Ken that made me feel like the character was broken. It was insane. I hate Cammy and Chun-Li enough that I damn near wanna cancel out when I see either one. Cammy always gives me fits and she seems soooo hard to punish. And I haven't won a round agains a Chun-Li ever. Partly because I'm not good and I don't know her. It just seems like she has a slew of wild crossup, lag-friendly, and priority-insane moves and folks are all over them.

gt: jimaveli

and get murked!

jetblack and I are already on

fuck you and die slow! That's your last win against me motherfucker!

enjoy that brew, homie.
lol

then you gonna go get some 'free beer' and just bounce.

I see how you do.

'Last wins ever' please... LOL

how could I turn that down? Drinking is the ONLY thing I could do to 'celebrate' that, besides hanging myself but my noose knot tying work isn't on point.

when the last time you been on SSF? I still ain't get my wins back since vanilla

but lemme know when you want to play.

you on that MW2 everyday lol

Somebody send me an invite

and they ain't sick...

jk

ditto on that invite me too :)

My 8 year old has a thing where everyone has to be upstairs when he goes to bed so he can feel safe. I'm in the basement with the wife who's going on about my day and my son marches downstairs and tells us we all need to get some sleep and I can play the game tomorrow since, in his words, I've had a long day and I'm tired and need some rest.

I see you stopped playing BC2. Come on back to get these suckas tango'd.

I'm kinda military shooter burnt out right now.

We'll do it again soon.

My mic is acting real shady, gonna have to get a new one.

Good runs man. We have to do it again real soon.

I recently started playing with Guy again and forgot how much fun he is to play. I think I'm going to pick him back up again as a secondary to Chun.

>My mic is acting real shady, gonna have to get a new one.
>
>Good runs man. We have to do it again real soon.
>
>I recently started playing with Guy again and forgot how much
>fun he is to play. I think I'm going to pick him back up
>again as a secondary to Chun.

Those WERE some good fights..even the 75% where ya'll just owned me. You cats are gonna make me better EVENTUALLY so I'm with it. Mic or no mic, I just hope Ecentric could hear me and Hotep clownin' the whole time.

Hotep is just too cold with the charge characters. The first time he chased that jab sonic boom, I knew I was about to learn some things since I tend to stay away from most of the charge characters. And Dee-Jay is a beast once he gets on the offensive.

And you Eccentric...man, I can't do anything with Chun when its lame folks playing her, so I wanted to disconnect when Hotep told me Chun was one of your mains. Your Abel was straight harsh too.

Both of ya'll had cool Guys. And overall, ya'll are just sharp with the boom-bap combos with all of your characters.

And I promise to come up with another character beside Gouken, who is my SF4 obsession at the moment (looking at Makoto cuz I don't think I can handle Boxer Balrog). Outside of my need to throw random Ultras, I also get caught trying to use his ultra like I'd use Ken's 'Vertical Uppercut' from SF3. AND I'm too sloppy still to be the type of bully Gouken allows. I have my moments, but I gotta make that the norm. Still working.

Jimaveli

>Those WERE some good fights..even the 75% where ya'll just
>owned me. You cats are gonna make me better EVENTUALLY so I'm
>with it. Mic or no mic, I just hope Ecentric could hear me and
>Hotep clownin' the whole time.

Yeah, I was dying! When I lost, I heard Hotep say, "he gonna get Chun now, watch!"

>Hotep is just too cold with the charge characters. The first
>time he chased that jab sonic boom, I knew I was about to
>learn some things since I tend to stay away from most of the
>charge characters. And Dee-Jay is a beast once he gets on the
>offensive.

Yeah, he is good with Dee-Jay and Guile.

>And you Eccentric...man, I can't do anything with Chun when
>its lame folks playing her, so I wanted to disconnect when
>Hotep told me Chun was one of your mains. Your Abel was
>straight harsh too.

Thanks man. I've been playing Chun since the first street fighter, but I'm getting tired of her. I'm on a mean streak with her in ranked, got her up to a B finally last night.

I like Abel, but its easy to bully him once you knock him down.

>Both of ya'll had cool Guys. And overall, ya'll are just sharp
>with the boom-bap combos with all of your characters.

Guy is cool man. I usually lose against good players with him, but I rarely lose to scrubs. I think I gave up on him to early when the game came out. he's just much more fun to play with than everyone else.

>And I promise to come up with another character beside Gouken,
>who is my SF4 obsession at the moment (looking at Makoto cuz I
>don't think I can handle Boxer Balrog). Outside of my need to
>throw random Ultras, I also get caught trying to use his ultra
>like I'd use Ken's 'Vertical Uppercut' from SF3. AND I'm too
>sloppy still to be the type of bully Gouken allows. I have my
>moments, but I gotta make that the norm. Still working.

Your Gouken is good man, keep at it. I love playing him with Chun though, because he can't do much of anything when she has Ultra I. Have you tried to use Gouken's second ultra? It juggles after it hits and I've heard its pretty good.

You don't want Makoto man. lol

I'll get with y'all this week. If you saw me on, I was undertaking the task of unlocking each and every color and taunt for everyone in the game... LOL

and I might have been away, too.

I've realized that I can not use Fei Long on the stick, and 360 characters I have some trouble with too (esp. T. Hawk, his SRK motion move gets in the way more than the Green Hand does)

I'll be online this evening.

What problems does Fei Long give you on the stick? IMO he's one of the less complicated ones on a stick.

Though I tihnk I still went like 0 for 6 against Amon with him.

>What problems does Fei Long give you on the stick? IMO he's
>one of the less complicated ones on a stick.

it's one of the problems I have w/going off the pad.
I thought 360s would be easier... but I can walk/defend 360s much better on the pad.

>Though I tihnk I still went like 0 for 6 against Amon with
>him.

lol, I go 1 for whatever no matter when I fight him. His control of certain characters is just too good for me to overcome at this stage.

Run! Your packets will get lost! Or arrive LATE! Or never get sent at all!

MWAHAHAHA!!!!

>Run! Your packets will get lost! Or arrive LATE! Or never get
>sent at all!
>
>MWAHAHAHA!!!!

Dan has got his eyes on Chun next time though.

That was painful to watch and play. I may be on again tonight. Gotta find my bluetooth...

most times.

MW2 = LAG FREE
Uncharted 2 = LAG FREE
Battlefield BC2 = LAG FREE
SF4 = LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG
SSF4 = LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA..........AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGG

Possibly rumors, but most of the info has already been verified:

http://shoryuken.com/f2/comic-con-details-now-made-public-spoiler-warning-244652/#post9233865

All Comic-Con Gaming news:

Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions to show off Final Spider-Man. (not yet clear on specifics, all access is currently strictly knowledge to Marvel/Activision employees.)

New X-Men "First Class" game and Captain America Game to be revealed.

Arcade Update announcement of Super Street Fighter IV to include 7 additional characters. Footage of "Alex" and "Rolento" is shown off.

Footage of New Darkstalkers Game featuring demonstration of 2 new characters whom are a white-haired teen witch girl and a harpy.

Marvel Vs Capcom 3 to show off new characters Trish, Dr. Doom, Chun-Li and Super Skrull with playable demo.

DC to announce new Green Lantern game, Game highlight is 3 different Green Lantern characters with 3 different gameplay styles.

Early Tekken 7 footage to be shown with only one new character shown, resembling a Yakuza-like female that has facial scars resembling that of kakihara from "Ichi the killer".

All Comic-Con Non-Gaming:

New footage/trailer from upcoming Thor movie to be showcased.

"Special Movie" trailer for new Marvel IP to be shown off afterwards. (not yet clear on specifics, all access is currently strictly knowledge to Marvel employees)

This is absolutely everything of any importance, there is nothing else there, I can contest to this. Images and further Details will be provided.

This shit is about to get crazy. Though I need to see how this update shit works...

>
>Footage of New Darkstalkers Game featuring demonstration of 2
>new characters whom are a white-haired teen witch girl and a
>harpy.
>

But I might have to

having gotten the ssf4 bug really hard lately (was running hard with it for a while, took a break but evo footage got me hype), I was wondering if we could chop it up on how to get better.

I got my mains (sagat, chun li, vega) all up to C, and I'm sad to say I've been losing considerably more than I've been winning, and want to figure out how to get my game to the next level, and I'd love to know any of your thoughts on any breakthru strategies/gameplay philosophies you might have successfully implemented.

here's some random thoughts and questions:

- I've realized more and more that good matches are more like chess. the key decision for success is getting someone to commit to an attack you can successfully counter, and/or committing to an attack that will not be countered. when i go full out offense, I find 99% of the time the guy is just blocking and counter attacking. being patient, and feeling out what kind of player you are playing is key.

- that being said, if your opponent is going balls out offense, sit back and let him counter. once he unsuccessfully attempts his go to lead in, and his confidence is shattered, mix it up.

those are a few thoughts I had, now onto the questions:

- i have trouble getting inside on turtle char (i.e. guile) and keep-away characters (got owned by a good dhaslim last night his jumping fierce p annhilated me). thoughts on how to deal with them?


- i still havent implemented much focus attacks/focus attack canceling in my game. i feel like fac is more used for extending big combos. I have a tough time effectively using focus attacks, advice for how to effectively use them?

- sometimes i feel like I'm still an extension of my snes days, relying on uppercuts for anti-airs, fireballs, and sticking to jumping fierce/roundhouses. this may sound dumb, how do you most effectively use your light and medium attacks in your gameplan?


answer my questions, share your thoughts, or add your own questions.

>- sometimes i feel like I'm still an extension of my snes
>days, relying on uppercuts for anti-airs, fireballs, and
>sticking to jumping fierce/roundhouses. this may sound dumb,
>how do you most effectively use your light and medium attacks
>in your gameplan?

and I use Dan who is basically good for not much other than "old school Street Fighter" which is why I liked him in the first place.

I think if you use a character that has good normals (your mains of Ryu, Chun and Sagat have excellent normals), you should go into training mode or play the CPU to get a good idea of how they work against opponents -- how long they take to go out and all of that.

bringing it back to Dan, his normals SUCK. so if I want anti-air I have to KRK or hope the opponent is close enough to be hit with the standing HK or close standing MK.

I know exactly what you mean w/"SNES" days w/the fierce/roundhouse. that button layout on the controller had people biased toward the HP/HK so much. Took getting on a Saturn for me to finally get away with that.

I used to dabble in SFIII (mostly 3rd Strike) which is why Makoto is my #2 character used in this game. With that in mind, I use the FA sort of like parries were used in that game. I often cancel the FA with a dash... and if someone is hitting me during it, it works like parries did in that game. But unlike parries, you have to dash out for the effect. you can only absorb a single hit, too.

FADC combos are pretty demanding for the average player, because of the input window and how you have to jump across the controller. I would hit training mode as much as you can to play them.

11 year old me: well duh, if fierce p/k does the most damage, why would i even think about using the other buttons besides throwing a slow fireball?

28 year old me: *looks at ken flowchart, and ken custom joystick w/ only hp button, simultaneously gets joke and feels like a jabroni*

hit them up for strats and practice from there. There's a street fighter community wherever you are so you can go play your state's best players, level up there, and take those skills online.

only to have the editing window time out on me lol.

www.shoryuken.com. The forums there have more in depth strats and tricks for specific characters. I don't play your characters but I have a general understanding of them.


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>here's some random thoughts and questions:
>

- i have trouble getting inside on turtle char (i.e. guile)
>and keep-away characters (got owned by a good dhaslim last
>night his jumping fierce p annhilated me). thoughts on how to
>deal with them?

I can only give you in depth as Akuma because I play him. But I can give you general stuff.

Turtle Guile is all about positioning and patience. You ever see old school high level Guile vs. Ryu matches? They chuck fireballs and sonic booms all day not for damage, but for the best screen position. Turtle guile wants you to get in HIS position to get his damage. Don't fall for it. Just keep cutting off the screen and eventually he'll have nowhere to run. Position is just as important as damage. Cross ups give Guile trouble so if you get the knockdown, cross him up to put pressure on him. If you back him up to the corner try to keep him there because his only "escape" is Flash kick FADC into backdash. A wrong flash kick will have him lose a ton of health.

Dhalsim is the same. His teleport isn't all that good because he can only go right behind you or back into a corner. A bad teleport will get him hurt bad since he doesn't have a lot of life to begin with. His jumping fierce can be uppercutted if you play sagat. You can focus through his heavy limbs. Focusing through fireballs isn't recommended because he'll just tag you with his limbs, making you eat the damage. Whatever ground you gain, try your best to keep it. If you get the knockdown, safe jump in and start your pressure. He doesn't have a reliable wake up reversal and teleport is dangerous.

Don't be afraid of the timer. If goes down to the wire it does. Fuck it. Better that way than to foolishly run into their range.
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>
>- i still havent implemented much focus attacks/focus attack
>canceling in my game. i feel like fac is more used for
>extending big combos. I have a tough time effectively using
>focus attacks, advice for how to effectively use them?

There are so many different usages for focus attacks. Here a some that come to me off the top.

Say you have a ryu that likes to abuse his sweep. Get inside his sweep range and start to focus. If he sweeps you absorb it and get the crumple. If he doesn't do anything you can either dash back or forward.

You have an opponent blocking your blockstring of cr. lp, cr. lp, cr. lp. From there you can start your focus attack. If they counter poke, you absorb it and get a crumple. If they don't you can release it and the opponent blocks it, putting more pressure on them with the guessing game of throw, block, uppercut.

Let's say you have a guy knocked down. charge up a focus on his wake up. When he wakes up, backdash. If your opponent is reversal happy, he'll be open to punish. If he doesn't he'll eat an unblockable focus attack.
>
>- sometimes i feel like I'm still an extension of my snes
>days, relying on uppercuts for anti-airs, fireballs, and
>sticking to jumping fierce/roundhouses. this may sound dumb,
>how do you most effectively use your light and medium attacks
>in your gameplan?
>
The lights and mediums depend on the character. You have to know your normals. by this I mean you have to know:

The range of each normal
The speed of each normal
Can the normal be linked or cancelled
How much advantage you get on hit/block
The range and speed of your opponents normals

Abel's standing light kick is a good poke because it has good priority and it can stuff some moves allowing abel to get in quicker. but it's not cancelable or linkable. Chun's crouching light kick sets up big punishes of mistakes, but it's too short to be a poke. Here's an example.

Let's say you block Balrog's improperly spaced level 2 turn around punch. If you try to sweep him, Balrog has enough time to block. However, if you do 2 crouching light kicks into EX legs into Ultra 2, you got a nice amount of damage off of a mistake. 2 light kicks got you a shit ton of damage.

In abel's case, you're playing a cr. mk happy ryu. You get just within his cr. Mk to fireball range and stick out a standing light kick. You get the counter hit and get extra frame advantage allowing you to close the distance to effectively apply Abels f + mk mixup game (which is godlike btw).

Once you understand the normal you'll know how and when to use them. Not to mention hit confirming combos. Try playing the computer using only normal attacks. You'll get the hang of them in no time. Especially with Chun. her normals are fucking great.

>answer my questions, share your thoughts, or add your own
>questions.
>
>

realizing how much depth and strategy is available in 2d fighters, i dunno if ill ever be on an fps again

checking out the forums, I'm gonna see if theres anyone in the area I can get together with and play with consistantly.

also gonna buy the madcatz te fightstick, I'm sick of not getting out chun li's ultra 2 because the damn left bumper on the fightpad is too hard to reach.

I had no problem with the Ultra II on a (PS3) pad, but Ultra I was almost impossible for me. Not, I can snap off Ultra I with the stick, but need a bit more practice to get Ultra II out on the stick.


If you DO get a TE, make sure to get the 360 version. That way, if you decide to dual mod it later it's much easier than going from a PS3 version (which is still doable, but not as easy).

terrible trip, the local gamestop said they had it in stock but it was the ps3, had to drive in and out of northern VA which = sitting in traffic for hours.

thing i really noticed, i wasn't getting the specials out, the TE stick's buttons are MUCH more sensitive than the gamepads, meaning I was pressing the button too early for the special.

this will take some getting used to, but I'm excited to own a stick! bit pricey but shoot, i havent touched another game in 2 months. Plus, this should be my go to fight stick for every 2d fighter ever.

going to a small local tourney tonite just to get out the house and actually play with some people, i wanna learn more and who knows how I'll do! if i lose, hopefully ill be able to control my temper much better than I do when I lose over xbl.

Yes, Sanwa buttons are quite sensitive, but once you get used to them people swear by them. You could swap for some seimitsu buttons if you just can't get used to them. If you head to the abovementioned SRK forums there's a metric crapton of info you can get on sticks, gates, buttons, art mods, dual mods, etc. I spend more time on that site than a little bit.

I'm in PG County, so if you ever think about using that stick on PS3 and 360 but aren't handy with the soldering iron, we can work something out.

its just frustrating when i could stuff any attack in an instant with a tiger uppercut, and right now i just wiff with a crouch HP. I'm gonna dedicate some time every day in the training just to get the joystick feel (like doing a hadoken without accidentally jumping) and the button presses.

yeah man, I'm just down the road in hoodbridge. I think ill be ok with my fightstick for now, but if you ever have a crew over to play, hit me up, I'm always down for some beers and video games, ill even bring a 12'er of budweiser, cans of course.

>also gonna buy the madcatz te fightstick, I'm sick of not
>getting out chun li's ultra 2 because the damn left bumper on
>the fightpad is too hard to reach.

I play Chun on a Pad and put all three punches on Fierce Punch. For normals you still get Fierce punches even with this configuration. Most chun's rarely use fierce kikokens, so that is pretty much all you lose. (you'll get ex kikokens instead of Fierce)

or use m.p and m.k?

I main T.Hawk/Gief and play with Ibuki, Dan, Abel, Cammy and Hakan.

i use the default pad layout. I'm training with stick but it's been an uphill battle.

>or use m.p and m.k?
>
>I main T.Hawk/Gief and play with Ibuki, Dan, Abel, Cammy and
>Hakan.

I didn't know Mathematiks used a pad, either... LOL
I swear when I do, I never miss a 360, Gadouken, or whatever I'm trying to do

but I still can't do reliable 360s on a (square gate) stick.
I'm trying hard to wean myself...

the only thing I'd use for a shortcut button is 3P or 3K on a pad.

Made me wanna run home and put in a few hours on the game.

I need gief practice with akuma

I play Chun so I can offer some insight with her, or at least the way I play her.

>- i have trouble getting inside on turtle char (i.e. guile)
>and keep-away characters (got owned by a good dhaslim last
>night his jumping fierce p annhilated me). thoughts on how to
>deal with them?

The tips you got earlier on Guile are spot on. I'll tell you how I play him and I've got a pretty high win percentage against him.

1) Don't jump towards him on Sonic Booms. His throw has priority over everything, or at least that's been my experience. If you jump straight up over them, alot of Guile's either follow it in or jump towards you for the throw and you can get a neutral jump fierce combo. If he follows them all the time you can focus through them or hasanshu over them. Just don't jump towards if he knows what he's doing, that what they want you to do.

2) Be patient. Hold your ground, let him back himself into a corner. All you really need is to get in on Guile once to take a huge chunk. You can cross him up all day or safe jump and make him flip kick.

3) Don't use ultra 1. Recovery on sonic boom is too fast, you'll miss.

For Dhalsim, focus through the jumping fierce or follow a kikoken to get in. Once you're in he's got no options on wake up outside of teleport or block. Same strategy as Guile once you're in.

Glad you're not asking about Blanka because that's my toughest matchup with Chun.

>
>- i still havent implemented much focus attacks/focus attack
>canceling in my game. i feel like fac is more used for
>extending big combos. I have a tough time effectively using
>focus attacks, advice for how to effectively use them?

With Sagat, you need fadc to get easy ultras and for safe tiger uppercuts.

Chuns FA leaves her with a frame advantage so even if your opponent blocks it, you can dash in and throw or lk lk ex legs. Good mix up.


>- sometimes i feel like I'm still an extension of my snes
>days, relying on uppercuts for anti-airs, fireballs, and
>sticking to jumping fierce/roundhouses. this may sound dumb,
>how do you most effectively use your light and medium attacks
>in your gameplan?

Agree with the other poster, it just depends on the character and the matchup.

Chuns best pokes are hk, mp, hp, and crouching mp. Don't think I've ever used standing lk with her. She crosses up with lk, and df hk.

I use standing lp on occasion but not that much. (to stop headbutt blanka ball spamming)

I play abel also and I use jumping mk almost exclusively, poke with standing lk and forward mk.

Which normals you use depends completely on the character, so just don't get in the habit of thinking its a one size fits all thing.

>answer my questions, share your thoughts, or add your own
>questions.
>
>

empty, but it shows that they are adding people for sure. hopefully announced tomorrow @ ono's conference.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/07/23/super_sfiv_character_slots/images/2132420805/

there are two more weekends of arcade testing, so maybe they'll add more spots for new characters. hopefully.

i hope they add elena and don't screw it up.

The rumor is 7 additional characters including Alex and Rolento.

but at least we know new characters are going to happen. i want to see what they do with the pc version. they might fuck with pc users further by forcing them to pay $40 and then $15 for the extra characters =\ and we'll still buy it.

It was funny as hell. No music or anything, just a screen saying both players lost. I stared at the screen for a good 3 minutes, then got a message from the person I played saying he just stared at the screen for a while, too.

It gave me -6 points and the other guy +6.

That never happens.....

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/2158/img0035v.jpg

sadly that makes me feel like an idiot for even thinking about it.

It functions, so I know my soldering worked corrcety. I had to go back and fix the start and L2 buttons, but a few minutes with some desoldering braid and I was good to go. I need some assistance with the lighting and have to wait for the plexiglass man to get back from Comic-Con to get the art done, but the stick should be done and ready for the reveal soon. Then I can get on L_O's stick in full force. BTW, I made a change in the wood stock on L_O's case, which will take a little longer and cost slightly more, but will lok MUCH nicer...

They'll be on your blog right? It'll be hella fun to watch them getting built.

Then will work on the third. Not even sure I'll do one for the current one since I didn't do as much hands on work. Yours will have a work log though

This nigga is gangsta. Second to only Cody's gangsta. I've just been in training practicing punishes, resets and his BnBs. He does hella damage and he gets tons of options after landing a blocked or a connected step kick.

Getting bum rushed after a knockdown without a reversal can get tiresome.

Also, the options after a step kick are great, but all of the links after it are extremely difficult, especially online. So unless you can do 1 frame links consistently, I would avoid using alot against someone with a good reversal, as you will eat it more often than not.

It is too much fun to play the crouching HP, roll mixup/reset game.

>For LO. New SSF4 posts go here.
>
>Let's go.

if so, I think this is #5 (give or take an XBox) and its been a while since the last one (cuz I went the better part of 6 months to a year without regular play) so I have no warranty. Soooooo...I'm looking at:

- flat out buying another xbox..250 GB, quiet and cheap-looking joint.

OR

- buying some games (SSF4, NG2, the wack new tecmo bowl that I was just trying to play before Entourage) for my God of War III-inspired PS3 and calling it done with Microsoft.

Jimaveli: I know which one is cheaper, but...

I need to get back into fighting regularly.

the srk forums are seriously a sf encyclopedia, was having the worst time cancelling crouching mp/mk into TU/TK w/ sagat, got a pointer on execution and i crank em out, perfected someone with it too!

getting a handle on the stick, everyone says its about practice, so im doing 20 reps per special/ultra/combo on each side before and after i play, i can whip out tiger uppercuts way fast now.

another thing really helpful to developing sounder fundamentals, got advice on the srk forums, really helpful stuff, check out my post:

http://shoryuken.com/f322/ssf4-vets-post-your-top-5-tips-pointers-beginners-sub-par-players-244956/

as sagat, make sure you learn hit confirm combos such as:

Jump in, cr. lk, cr. lk, cr. lp into tiger upper or tiger shot

This way when you jump in with sagat's jumping mp elbow, you know whether to finish the combo or not

tried that one, links take some practice to get wired though, killer instinct this isn't.

dual system sticks too? It's going to change the way I play.

You need two?

excuse the plural

i.e. the entire costume pack will be out today @ a reduced price.

it freshens up the game to have different looks

http://shoryuken.com/f177/dual-wireless-stick-building-noobies-worklog-245495/

This documents all the work that went into that MvC2 stick I made for a buddy (and gives L_O an idea of what I'll have to go thru for his stick). Have a look, have a laugh, and enjoy. Eventually I'll get the Guile stick worklog up, and will chronicle L_O's stick as soon as the case is finished. I don't think he's going to get lights

Keep 'em coming.

I put my first build up on the blog (spenzalii.blogspot.com) a while ago, and just got finished with the writeup for this one. It was much more involved than the first, and I git so busy at home and at work that I never got the chance to finish before now.

I almost got the f mk to fp link down completely. Once I knock that out it's gonna be on.

it's a raging demon but with faster speed, longer range and armor. And you can cancel it. I don't really use it because I like to combo into my ultra.

I've been on a bender as of late of getting my ass kicked by dudes I should beat because my controller seems to not want to work with me. Looking fucking forward to my arcade stick...

now i just have to master executing my moves with 0 errors

Still working out the kinks on El Guapo (the new stick). I can only contribute one match to a stick malfunction; the others I was just off. I'll be back with El Kabong though...

shit.

Let me know when you want to enact revenge lol