It's time.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/26/apples-islate-and-other-rumors-that-have-given-its-stock-a-ho/

The Apple tablet rumors are at a fever pitch, yet again. Depending on what you've read, it's all but confirmed that the company's got a January 26th event scheduled at Yerba Buena Center for the Arts (YBCA) in San Francisco, CA. All this, of course, with nary a word or comment from Cupertino HQ, and without the context that this trend has come and gone ad nauseam, both with the tablet and before with the years of lead-up to the iPhone. Here's the latest bit: MacRumors has dug up information about a Delaware-based company, Slate Computing, LLC, that was founded in November 2006 and owns the trademark "iSlate," the signatory of said trademark being Apple's Senior Trademark Specialist Regina Porter. Given that Apple owns "iSlate" trademark in Europe and that it's allegedly pulled similar stunts with a "fake" company and the iPhone trademark, sure, we could buy into this being just a dummy corporation... but does it really confirm an impending tablet that'll be called the "iSlate?" Not at all. We wouldn't be surprised if Apple has done this for numerous other trademarks, either to give itself more options or to prevent others from trying to manufacture products under those names. (Slate Computing, LLC also happens to own the "Magic Slate" trademark, just so you know.) Also bought up in 2006? The domain iSlate.com, which again according to MacRumors (with help form Mark Gurman of AppleRejectedMe.com) was apparently and briefly shown to be owned by Apple at some point during 2007. Food for thought, but trust us, you don't want to confuse hearsay for concrete fact.

Which brings us to December 24th, where we see a statistically significant uptick in Apple's stock value. Seeing as the fiscals were released back in late October along with the last refresh of hardware (Mac Pro specs notwithstanding), it seems everyone decided to spend their holiday bonuses on some Apple shares. Now, we're not claiming to be professionals here by any stretch of the imagination, but it seems a lot of the activity here can be attributed to the recent flux of rumors. Jason Schwarz of The Street has an interesting take on it, which if you've got 15 minutes to kill should be worth your time to browse through.

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LOL, Apple makes some of the dumbest shit
PC market should be trembling


>It's time.
>
>http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/26/apples-islate-and-other-rumors-that-have-given-its-stock-a-ho/
>
>The Apple tablet rumors are at a fever pitch, yet again.
>Depending on what you've read, it's all but confirmed that the
>company's got a January 26th event scheduled at Yerba Buena
>Center for the Arts (YBCA) in San Francisco, CA. All this, of
>course, with nary a word or comment from Cupertino HQ, and
>without the context that this trend has come and gone ad
>nauseam, both with the tablet and before with the years of
>lead-up to the iPhone. Here's the latest bit: MacRumors has
>dug up information about a Delaware-based company, Slate
>Computing, LLC, that was founded in November 2006 and owns the
>trademark "iSlate," the signatory of said trademark being
>Apple's Senior Trademark Specialist Regina Porter. Given that
>Apple owns "iSlate" trademark in Europe and that it's
>allegedly pulled similar stunts with a "fake" company and the
>iPhone trademark, sure, we could buy into this being just a
>dummy corporation... but does it really confirm an impending
>tablet that'll be called the "iSlate?" Not at all. We wouldn't
>be surprised if Apple has done this for numerous other
>trademarks, either to give itself more options or to prevent
>others from trying to manufacture products under those names.
>(Slate Computing, LLC also happens to own the "Magic Slate"
>trademark, just so you know.) Also bought up in 2006? The
>domain iSlate.com, which again according to MacRumors (with
>help form Mark Gurman of AppleRejectedMe.com) was apparently
>and briefly shown to be owned by Apple at some point during
>2007. Food for thought, but trust us, you don't want to
>confuse hearsay for concrete fact.
>
>Which brings us to December 24th, where we see a statistically
>significant uptick in Apple's stock value. Seeing as the
>fiscals were released back in late October along with the last
>refresh of hardware (Mac Pro specs notwithstanding), it seems
>everyone decided to spend their holiday bonuses on some Apple
>shares. Now, we're not claiming to be professionals here by
>any stretch of the imagination, but it seems a lot of the
>activity here can be attributed to the recent flux of rumors.
>Jason Schwarz of The Street has an interesting take on it,
>which if you've got 15 minutes to kill should be worth your
>time to browse through.
>
>

I don't think it'll make calls.
Something similar to the crunchpad/joojoo. But with Jon Ive style.

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/12/27/islate-has-a-friend-meet-the-mysterious-magic-slate/

The slates just keep coming. Now MacRumors is reporting that Apple has filed a trademark for a device called "Magic Slate."
The term was categorized broadly to cover computers, computer peripherals, computer hardware and much more. "Magic Slate" adopts a similar naming convention to the recently released multi-touch Magic Mouse from Apple. It's not hard to imagine that a "Magic Slate" would be a multi-touch peripheral for computers, much like the multi-touch iGesture Pad released by Fingerworks before their acquisition by Apple.
Back in October a multi-touch trackpad was rumored to be making an appearance but it never materialized. If Apple does still plan on releasing the device, it would fit in nicely with the "Magic"-peripheral theme. Now, where's that trademark for "Magic Keyboard"?

http://gizmodo.com/5439376/islate-concept-gallery/gallery/2

http://daringfireball.net/2009/12/the_tablet

The Tablet

Thursday, 31 December 2009

Another former Apple executive who was there at the time said the tablets kept getting shelved at Apple because Mr. Jobs, whose incisive critiques are often memorable, asked, in essence, what they were good for besides surfing the Web in the bathroom.

—”Just a Touch Away, the Elusive Tablet PC”, The New York Times, 4 October 2009

Here’s the thimbleful of information I have heard regarding The Tablet (none of which has changed in six months): The Tablet project is real, it has you-know-who’s considerable undivided attention, and everyone working on it has dropped off the map. I don’t know anyone who works at Apple who doubts these things; nor do I know anyone at Apple who knows a whit more. I don’t know anyone who’s seen the hardware or the software, nor even anyone who knows someone else who has seen the hardware or software.

The cone of silence surrounding the project is, so far as I can tell, complete.1

The situation is uncannily similar to the run-up preceding the debut of the original iPhone in January 2007, including many of the same engineers and software teams at Apple — such as those who built the iPhone Mail, Calendar, and Safari apps — disappearing into a black hole. The iPhone remained a secret until Steve Jobs took it out of his jeans pocket on stage at Macworld Expo. All of which is to say that what follows is my conjecture. Pure punditry, not one of those smarmy “predictions” where I know full well in advance what’s going to happen.

I have a thousand questions about The Tablet’s design. What size is it? There’s a big difference between, say, 7- and 10-inch displays. How do you type on it? With all your fingers, like a laptop keyboard? Or like an iPhone, with only your thumbs? If you’re supposed to watch video on it, how do you prop it up? Holding it in your hands? Flat on a table seems like the wrong angle entirely; but a fold-out “arm” to prop it up, à la a picture frame, seems clumsy and inelegant. If it’s just a touchscreen tablet, how do you protect the screen while carrying it around? If it folds up somehow, how is it not just a laptop — why not put a hardware keyboard on the part that folds up to cover the display? (Everyone I know at Apple refers to it as “The Tablet”, but so far as I can tell, that’s because that’s what everyone calls it, not because anyone knows that it actually even is, physically, a tablet. And “The Tablet” most certainly is not the product name.) If it’s too big to fit in a pants pocket, how are you supposed to carry it around? And but if it does fit in a pants pocket, how is it bigger enough than an iPod Touch to justify existing? And so on.

But there’s one question at the top of the list, the answer to which is the key to answering every other question. That question is this: If you already have an iPhone and a MacBook; why would you want this?

The epigraph I used to start this piece — the bit about Steve Jobs demanding that a tablet be useful for more than just reading on the can — indicates that Apple will release nothing without such an answer. I agree that such an answer is essential.

Successful new gadgets always seem to occupy a clearly defined place alongside, or replacing, existing devices. The Flip filled a previously empty niche for a small, cheap, simple video camera. How was the iPod better than existing portable music players? It fit 1,000 songs in your pocket, with a fun interface that let you find them easily. Why buy an iPhone to replace your existing mobile phone? Because there was a clear need for a modern handheld general-purpose computer.

But how much room is there between an iPhone (or iPod Touch) and a MacBook (or other laptop computer, running Windows or Linux or whatever)? What’s the argument for owning all three?

“I’d use it on the couch and lying in bed” is not a good answer. You can already use your iPhone or MacBook on the couch and in bed. It strikes me as foolish to market a multi-hundred-dollar device that people are expected to leave on their coffee table.

“It’s a Kindle killer” is not a good answer. If you think Apple is making a dedicated device for reading e-books and articles, you’re thinking too small. As profoundly reticent as Steve Jobs is regarding future Apple products, when he does speak, he’s often surprisingly revealing. David Pogue asked him about the Kindle a few months ago:

A couple of years ago, pre-Kindle, Mr. Jobs expressed his doubts that e-readers were ready for prime time. So today, I asked if his opinions have changed.

“I’m sure there will always be dedicated devices, and they may have a few advantages in doing just one thing,” he said. “But I think the general-purpose devices will win the day. Because I think people just probably aren’t willing to pay for a dedicated device.”

He said that Apple doesn’t see e-books as a big market at this point, and pointed out that Amazon.com, for example, doesn’t ever say how many Kindles it sells. “Usually, if they sell a lot of something, you want to tell everybody.”

Of course, this is the same Steve Jobs who back in January 2008 told The New York Times’s John Markoff:

“It doesn’t matter how good or bad the product is, the fact is that people don’t read anymore,” he said. “Forty percent of the people in the U.S. read one book or less last year. The whole conception is flawed at the top because people don’t read anymore.”

One could reasonably argue that the “people don’t read” comment, taken at face value, suggests that Apple has no interest in that market, period.

I, however, would square the two remarks as follows: Not enough people read to make it worth creating a dedicated device that is to reading what the original iPod was to music. (Everyone, for practical definitions of “everyone”, listens to music.) But e-reading as one aspect among several for a general-purpose computing device — well, that’s something else entirely.

The pre-Touch iPod was (and remains) an enormous success. It changed the music industry and rejuvenated Apple. But it was and remains a dedicated device; originally focused on audio, now capable of the sibling feature of video.

The iPhone, on the other hand, was conceived and has flourished as a general-purpose handheld computing platform. It was not introduced as such publicly, and is not pitched as such in Apple’s marketing, but clearly that’s what it is. The iPhone was described by Jobs in his on-stage introduction as three devices in one: “a widescreen iPod with touch controls, a revolutionary mobile phone, a breakthrough Internet communicator”. Thus, it was clear what people would want to do with it: watch videos, listen to music, make phone calls, surf the web, do email.

The way Apple made one device that did a credible job of all these widely-varying features was by making it a general-purpose computer with minimal specificity in the hardware and maximal specificity in the software. And, now, through the App Store and third-party developers, it does much more: serving as everything from a game player to a medical device.

Do I think The Tablet is an e-reader? A video player? A web browser? A document viewer? It’s not a matter of or but rather and. I say it is all of these things. It’s a computer.

And so in answer to my central question, regarding why buy The Tablet if you already have an iPhone and a MacBook, my best guess is that ultimately, The Tablet is something you’ll buy instead of a MacBook.

I say they’re swinging big — redefining the experience of personal computing.

It will not be pitched as such by Apple. It will be defined by three or four of its built-in primary apps. But long-term, big-picture? It will be to the MacBook what the Macintosh was to the Apple II.

I am not predicting that Apple is phasing out the Mac. (On the contrary, I’ve heard that Mac OS X 10.7 is on pace for a developer release at WWDC in June.) Like all Apple products, The Tablet will do less than we expect but the things it does do, it will do insanely well. It will offer a fraction of the functionality of a MacBook — but that fraction will be way more fun. The same myopic feature-checklist-obsessed critics who dismissed the iPhone will focus on all that The Tablet doesn’t do and declare that this time, Apple really has fucked up but good. The rest of us will get in line to buy one.

The Mac is, and will remain, Apple’s answer to what you use to do everything.

The Tablet, I say, is going to be Apple’s new answer to what you use for personal portable general computing.

Put another way, let’s say instead of a MacBook and an iPhone, you’ve got an iMac and an iPhone, but you also want a portable secondary computer. Today, that portable from Apple (portable as opposed to the iPhone’s mobile) is a MacBook. With The Tablet, you’ll have the option of a device that will more closely resemble the iPhone than the iMac in terms of concept and the degree of technical abstraction.

THE TABLET OS

The original 1984 Mac didn’t abstract away the computer — it made the computer itself elegant, simple, and understandable. Very, very little was hidden from the typical user. Mac OS X is vastly more complex technically and conceptually, as it must be due to the vastly increased complexity and capability of today’s hardware. But Mac OS X has always tried to have it both ways: a veneer of simplicity that doesn’t cover the entire surface of the system. The user-exposed file system is a prime example. On the 1984 Mac, the entire file system was exposed, but the entire file system fit on a 400 KB floppy disk. On Mac OS X, the /System/Library/ folder, one of many exposed fiddly sections of the file system browsable in the Finder, contains over 90,000 items, not one of which a typical user should ever need to see or touch.

The iPhone OS offers a complete computing abstraction. Under the hood, it’s just as complex as Mac OS X. On the surface, though, it is even more simple and elegant than the original Mac. No technical complexity is exposed. Hierarchy is minimized. It relegates the file system to a developer-level technology rather than a user-level technology. (Did you know the file system on iPhones is case sensitive?)

But so while I think The Tablet’s OS will be like the iPhone OS, I don’t think it will be the iPhone OS. Carved from the same OS X core, yes, but with a new bespoke UI designed to be just right for The Tablet’s form factor, whatever that form factor will be.

One common prediction I disagree with is that The Tablet will simply be more or less an iPod Touch with a much bigger display. But in the same way that it made no sense for Apple to design the iPhone OS to run Mac software, it makes little sense for a device with a 7-inch (let alone larger) display to run software designed for a 3.5-inch display.

The iPhone OS user interface was not designed in the abstract. It’s entirely about real-world usability, and very much designed specifically around the physical size of the device itself. The size and spacing of tappable targets are designed with the size of human thumb- and fingertips in mind. More importantly, the whole thing is designed so that it can be used one-handed. Even an adult with relatively small hands can go from one corner to the other with their thumb, holding the iPhone in one hand.

Mac OS X apps couldn’t run on an iPhone display because they simply wouldn’t fit, and the parts that did fit would contain buttons and other UI elements that were far too small to be used. Running iPhone software on a much larger display presents the opposite problem: it’s not that the UI couldn’t be scaled to fill the screen, it’s that it would be a waste to do so.

A 7-inch display isn’t twice the size of an iPhone’s, it’s four times bigger in surface area. I’m not sure even Shaquille O’Neal could hold a 7-inch iPod Touch in one hand and swipe from corner to corner with his thumb. Why would Apple stretch a UI designed to afford for one-handed use on 3.5-inch displays to cover a 7-inch (or larger) display that couldn’t possibly be used one-handed? If Apple’s starting with a hardware size where the iPhone OS can’t be used one-handed, then trust me, they’re designing a new interaction model.

Apple is not in the business of making monolithic OSes that they cram down your throat on as many widely-varying devices as possible. Apple is in the business of making complete products, for which they craft derivative OSes to fit each product. There is a shared core OS. There is not a shared core UI.2

If you’re thinking The Tablet is just a big iPhone, or just Apple’s take on the e-reader, or just a media player, or just anything, I say you’re thinking too small — the equivalent of thinking that the iPhone was going to be just a click wheel iPod that made phone calls. I think The Tablet is nothing short of Apple’s reconception of personal computing.

“Make no little plans. They have no magic to stir men’s blood and probably themselves will not be realized. Make big plans; aim high in hope and work, remembering that a noble, logical diagram once recorded will never die, but long after we are gone will be a living thing, asserting itself with ever-growing insistency. Remember that our sons and grandsons are going to do things that would stagger us. Let your watchword be order and your beacon beauty. Think big.”
—DANIEL BURNHAM, CHICAGO ARCHITECT. (1846-1912)

The only known breakage of the cone of silence around Apple’s tablet project I’m aware of are the meetings Apple has held with publishing industry executives. The way these meetings work, from what I’ve gathered, is as follows. Apple brings no hardware. They bring no software. They show no mockups. They do not even completely acknowledge that they’re making a new device. The people from Apple simply say something along the lines of, “If we were to create a new platform for book/magazine/newspaper content, would you be interested in offering your content for it?” Apple is, without any question in my mind, courting book and periodical publishers. But that doesn’t mean Apple trusts any of them enough to reveal or describe in detail what it is they’re actually working on. ↩

That said, I would not be surprised to find out that The Tablet uses UIKit, a.k.a. Cocoa Touch, as its programming API. I don’t think the same apps will run as-is on both OSes, but I do think you might use the same set of APIs to write apps for both platforms. (Or, perhaps iPhone apps could run as less-than-full-screen widgets on the larger tablet display.) ↩

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/major-apple-announcement-coming-january-27th-devs-already-wor/

According John Paczkowski over at All Things D, Apple is planning a "major product announcement" for Wednesday, January 27th -- not the 26th as we've heard in previous reports. Additionally, the French site Mac4Ever says developers have been given a beta of the iPhone OS 4 SDK which includes a "simulator" for reformatting / scaling applications to a new, tablet-sized screens. Here at Engadget, we can confirm that sources very familiar with the situation over in Cupertino have been given info about a tablet heading for launch at the end of January, which will -- in fact -- require reformatting and resizing for (we assume)... yep, its new screen size and resolution. As far as details, they're pretty scarce right now, but you can probably begin preliminary salivating and / or player hatin' as it relates to new Apple hardware. We'll have more info as it becomes available, but for now, stay tuned.

Personally I don't see the appeal at all. Can someone explain why I would want one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIgNfp-MdI

a little different than a tablet, but this is the first time I've understood the appeal of a table-type computer.

And def cool to use. But really when you think about it, the only extra feature to any PC was the ability to write on screen. And for someone with as terrible handwriting and drawing skills such as myself, that's no advantage.

^

I work in a field (science) which sometimes require me to go to conferences. It would be nice to have a device that works like this that I could easily whip out to jot down notes during a presentation. Then later I could bring it out again when it is time to give my presentation.

It would be nice to have a device like this that I could take on the road like PC users. If this exists I wonder what they will do about storage.

just blue-skying, kupo.

if it's not something I can really use or would want, I'd rather Apple not waste their time on it.

Then again, since I already got a Windows 7 netbook, it would be kinda pointless to buy an Apple one as well, so I guess it might as well be something I wouldn't want anyway.

a e-sketchpad <----the main reason.
comics/graphic novels
novels
movies on the road
couch surfing
a tertiary screen (i got two)

will have all those features? probably not but it'll be feature rich and a new device for people to love/secretly love/hate.

And yes I'm taking that day off.

for recipes/tv, nav/music, movies, remote/web respectively.

It'll also function as an e-book reader of course, and have the entire iphone app catalog at launch I'm guessing.

I'd like it as a small side monitor for my computer, showing just AIM and iTunes next to my main display or something.

It definitely has all kinds of potential.

I just feel it finds itself in between smartphones and conventional laptops with not a big enough tangible advantage from either. Unless I suppose you have some sort of niche interest. But I mean even in a kitchen, on a train etc. both an iPhone or a laptop can let you watch movies/look up recipes.....

I have a habit of completely fucking up predictions on this kind of thing. I remember saying touchscreen phones would never work. So I'm almost certainly wrong again, but I'm still not on board yet.

Anyway as someone said, it'll be real exciting. Something for everybody to either love or hate passionately.

Everyone's seen movies where people are throwing documents around a screen with their hands and thought "one day, one day". No matter how little it might actually add to our lives, now I think about millions will buy this shit just for the cool factor.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/lenovo-ideapad-u1-hybrid-laptop-by-day-unhinged-tablet-by-nigh/

Although the fact that the two modes are discrete is full of fail, imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntyXvLnxyXk

not any time soon, but...itll be like this eventually. and itll be DOPE!!!

cause NYT already got an app ready to go.

just think...the paperless newspaper.

this will be the ONLY way to get magazine's, books and newspapers pretty soon. add to that pretty much anything you can do on an iPhone (music, movies, games, internet, text, phone, apps), and you will not carry around a phone (and possibly a laptop) again. you will only use a laptop or desktop at the office.

In fact I'm definitely not the first, someone must have thought of this. But this will succeed. Every school and college will have a tablet for every student in no time. The amount of re-printing of text books for new editions is insane (and an insane waste of money). For that reason alone these do have a big market.

but i see them all the time now

>Every school and
>college will have a tablet for every student in no time.


there are still schools with textbooks that are 20 years out of date.
might have a bigger impact in colleges yeaaaaars from now


btw. felt like mentioning that Uruguay is the first country to ensure
that every school-child has a computer.


oh, look. the one-laptop per child project is now one tablet per child:

"The XO-3, as it is known, is a slim-line touchscreen tablet PC.

"One Laptop per Child (OLPC) said it would be "available in 2012" and
would cost "well below $100". "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8428147.stm

Where computers will not only be affordable but completely essential. Schools in the West will all have computers for their students, no matter how fucked up funding/policy is. And if that happens, I can see tablets taking over for that purpose.

As for Uruguay, I didn't know that. Pretty cool, though at what cost? I dunno, basically I have literally zero expertise in Uruguayan school funding!

but the cost of printing textbooks is negligible compared to the cost of licensing the cost. I doubt it cost more than $5 to actually print a textbook.

those things are heavy

that'll be awesome.

LMFAO

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Apple-iSlate-specifications-revealed-article-a_8530.html

This article contains unofficial information.
You know that people interested in the mobile industry are talking about a presumable Apple tablet right now. You also know that this tablet may be called iSlate and could be announced on January 26. However, you do not know what the specifications of the device are. Well, that’s about to change… now.



Images revealing the Apple iSlate specs
We have just received some images of what seem to be internal Apple documents, revealing the Apple iSlate specifications. And what specs these are!

A 7.1-inch multitouch display with fingerprint-resistant coating
2.26GHz Core 2 Duo processor
2GB DDR3 RAM UP TO 8GB FTW?
120GB hard drive
built-in projector…

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/image.php?m=Articles.Images&f=name&id=27156&caption=&title=Image+from+%22Apple+iSlate+specifications+revealed%22&kw=

actually you can check the list yourselves. We cannot be sure if that information is to be trusted, but if we are lucky enough… boy, won’t the iSlate just rock?! To top it off, according to these docs, Apple’s tablet will run on the new Mac OS X 10.7 Clouded Leopard platform that will allow for touchscreen functionality and will bring a new widget-based homescreen. So, it now seems that the only thing left to do is hope this info is real and that the device will sport a 3G receiver so you can surf the web anytime you want. We already have our fingers crossed for a January 26 announcement of the Apple iSlate.

Thanks, anonymous tipster!

ROFLMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

A projector? That's so unexpected I don't even know what to make of it.

said that, bird.

But you did say it even if you weren't the one claiming it to be true. Ah fuck it...let's not have a debate about something so ridiculous.

Let me get back to thinking what they might be doing with a projector. I mean those things are pretty damn expensive, at least good ones are.

a presentation or 'keynote' tablet if you will.

I could wow an audience before I even get to speak.

Perhaps it will be a mini projector, so if you put it up near a wall the whole tablet will be a keyboard (or whatever kind of input device) and the projected image will become the screen. This would be especially good for writing a lot, as otherwise you gotta lean forward too much and it will hurt your neck.

At least it will probably be there to allow for 2 screens, for whatever use you might have for that. I can't see it being a full blown projector capable of doing slides for a whole lecture theatre. The lens would be too big and too expensive.

forget about it simply for battery issues. Sure you could plug it in inside a lecture theatre, but they can't make a portable device with a key feature needing a plug socket.

In fact speaking of batteries, that's one of my biggest issues with a tablet. These things are gonna last like 30 minutes. Until those future batteries we always hear about but never emerge finally do come on the market, these things won't do what they say on the tin. A 7" screen alone is gonna eat power for breakfast.

I will find a way to have that puppy in my hands. Realistically I'll have to wait until tax time.

That shit will be hella expensive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni_x_74VKU0

i think

Microsoft and H.P. to Reveal Slate PC Ahead of Apple
By ASHLEE VANCE

It could be one of Steve Ballmer’s riskiest trade-show moves in years.

On Wednesday, Mr. Ballmer, Microsoft’s chief executive, will unveil a novel take on a slate-type computer during his evening keynote at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, according to people familiar with Microsoft’s plans. The slate will be made by Hewlett-Packard and possibly available by mid-year, these people said.

This product better be good because Apple is expected to unveil its take on the slate/tablet form factor later this month. If history holds, Apple will issue a product that surprises people in a few ways and that stands out from the crowd.

So the last thing Mr. Ballmer wants to hold up is a me-too device.

Press representatives from Microsoft and H.P. declined to comment on the product or the content of Mr. Ballmer’s speech.

My sources, however, say that Mr. Ballmer will show the as-yet-unnamed H.P. device, which will be touted as a multimedia whiz with e-reader and multi-touch functions.

Last fall, some photos emerged of a Microsoft tablet/slate prototype device.

It remains tough to tell where Microsoft’s work ends and H.P.’s begins on this type of product. But all eyes will be on Mr. Ballmer this week to see if Microsoft and H.P. can out-Apple Apple before Apple Apples.

http://kara.allthingsd.com/20100106/microsofts-ballmer-will-not-be-showing-slate-pc-at-ces-opening-tonight/

As much as BoomTown likes a good computer tablet face-off, sources with knowledge of the situation said that Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer will not be whipping out the secret “Courier” slate PC that the company has been noodling on in his keynote speech opening the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas tonight. Instead, he will be showing off a new Hewlett-Packard (HPQ) slate that runs Microsoft software.

Last night, the New York Times reported that the software giant would do so in a blog post titled: “Microsoft and H.P. to Reveal Slate PC Ahead of Apple.”

Apple will be launching its much-heralded slate at an event in San Francisco on January 27, as All Things Digital has previously reported.

The Apple (AAPL) device is garnering the expected flood of hype, of course. So, don’t expect Ballmer to pointlessly go against the tide on this particular tsunami, thereby painting its slate efforts as also-ran.

Instead, his speech is more likely to focus on its new Windows 7 operating system, cloud computing, portable and mobile devices and Microsoft’s “software plus services” motto.

While he might talk about a range of products related to Microsoft (MSFT) and there will be multi-form hardware shown, including multi-touch, tablet-type devices, there will be no grand showing of the one called the Courier, which Microsoft is reportedly working on with HP.

Hence the possible confusion over the PC slate.

Now, please go back to gushing over the Apple iSlate ad nauseum!

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/ces/

It'll be interesting what is discussed/announced.

futureproof your firepower.

you gonna upgrade?

nah.

that would be overkill.

Just when you thought you were safe in your campsite. Uh-Oh! Shit wrong topic.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/sony-introduces-dash-internet-viewer-touchscreen-tablet/

Not bad.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/sony-dash-press-shots/2588718

Ballmer's such a douche.

Kinda disappointed.

HP "Slate"...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/the-hp-slate/

Apple..name it something different PLEASE LOL

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/msi-dualscreen-e-reader-hands-on/

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooold Appleinsider swipe.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/03/26/apples_patent_for_an_lcd_display_that_also_takes_photos_video.html

The filing, which predates the iPhone's release by nearly three years, describes a new breed of LCD display that could simultaneously take photos while continuing its role as the primary display screen of an electronics device or computer monitor.

The idea behind the invention is to wedge thousands of microscopic image sensors between the LCD cells that make up the display, where each sensor would be responsible for capturing a piece of the overall photo. Those pieces would then be stitched together by software to recreate the complete image capture.

According to the filing, made back in June of 2004, the tiny image sensors could also have variable focal lengths in order to zoom and focus the image: "The lens might either be physically moved or have its properties altered. In the latter case, the lens might be made of a material that changes its refractive index in response to electrical stimulus or a magnetic field."

The filing has a newfound relevance given recent claims by Digg founder Kevin Rose that Apple's forthcoming iPhone revision will include a camera mounted on the face of the unit to coincide with a mobile version of iChat suited for handheld video conferencing.

While Rose's track-record on predicting Apple's future directions is akin to a hit or miss affair, the advent of video conference via iPhones is seemingly inevitable given time. Therefore his proposals, as well as those outlined in the patent, could potentially surface slightly further down the road should they not be part of Apple's more immediate plans.

Of particular interest in this regard, is the electronics maker's claims that 'integrated sensing displays' are ideally suited for video conferencing on handhelds, where the available real estate limits the number of components -- such as a front mounted cam in addition to a rear-mounted cam -- that can fit into the devices.

"A panel created from an integrated, embedded macro charge-coupled devices (CCD) would thus be able to both display and record visual information simultaneously, without the use of an external video capture device. Simply put, the same panel could display a video conference while also recording the participant sitting in front of it," the company said in the filing.

"A video panel that has an embedded macro CCD is no longer just a display. It can be used to transmit as well as receive visual information. One use and benefit for such a panel is video conferencing: a user can maintain eye contact with someone on screen because the camera is 'in' the screen. In addition, portable devices, such as portable digital assistants (PDAs) and cell phones, have very limited space for displays and would benefit if additional real estate were not used for a camera."




The patent filing was published by the United States Patent and Trademark Office in April of 2006 alongside three other filings pertaining to wireless iPods, iChat whiteboards, and virtual touch-screen keyboards -- technologies which were all later implemented in shipping Apple products.

http://maxvoltar.com/

there are patents concerning this tablet you place inside an iMac or inside a MacBook or notebook dock.

Good idea? I don't know. But it is intriguing. I'm composing this post on an iPod touch if I could dock this touch and have my iMac launch Safari with this same text would be a cool trick. Usefully? Not really but ingtruing,bird.

http://www.veoh.com/collection/Funny-Or-Die-Immortals#watch%3Dv19624071mA86GDcK

http://gizmodo.com/5451005/apple-january-27th-come-see-our-latest-creation-event-confirmed

maybe.
LOL

I got chirrens. They need REI and Pottery Barn.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/apple-rumor-roundup-summer-2010-edition/

soooo fake

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on 'BigAss iPhone' exclusively on Boost Mobile.

just to give to my GF so she can play Plants vs Zombies and I can reclaim my Macbook.

I'm sure I've seen it while I was browsing the games the other day

and it is seriously what she does 3 to 4 hours of the day when she's at home.

those things are time-sucks.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2010/01/500x_litebritetop.jpg

I kinda want to go now.

http://www.defectivebydesign.org/apple-tablet-san-francisco-launch

Support DbD at Apple's Jan. 27 "Come see our latest restriction" event in SF
Posted On: Fri, 2010-01-22 15:11 by JohnSullivan

This coming Wednesday, January 27th, Apple has invited members of the media to San Francisco's Yerba Buena Center for the Arts Theater to "Come see our latest creation."

There has been much speculation about what Apple will be announcing, with most of it revolving around a possible tablet PC -- basically an oversized iPhone. But no matter the form factor, it's all but certain given the direction Apple has been going that any new product will be DRM-infected and restricted by proprietary software.

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The company who once announced to the world that they opposed DRM on music has been pushing DRM in every other area of their business. Apple's iPhone goes out of its way to apply DRM on every piece of software on the device, saying it is illegal for users to install software that comes from anywhere other than the official Application Store.

Can you imagine a world where this same restriction is applied to your laptop or tablet PC? That could very well be Apple's announcement on Wednesday -- their latest restriction.

As in the past, they didn't invite us to the event, but we thought we would go anyway, and bring some friends. We'll be there to warn the public and the media outside the event about Apple's support for DRM and proprietary software.

Come help create the counter story in the media -- take photos, talk to the press, and have fun with a little bit of theater to show that Apple is not the force for creative expression they claim to be.

We got through to Steve Jobs before on music DRM, and convinced iTunes to drop it. We know we can have success here. But we need to repeat that effort and show that DRM on Apple computers means that people who are actually interested in creativity and freedom will go elsewhere.

Press coverage of Apple events usually falls all over itself to praise the style and sleekness of their devices. It's vital that we be there to unmask the new product for what it undoubtedly will be -- another seamless case and pretty screen hiding a new set of restrictions and threats to the public's digital freedom.

We'll post the precise time and meeting location for our group here next week -- since Apple's event starts at 10am, attendees will be showing up at 9am, and we will want to be ready and outside the Theater by then to hand out flyers and talk to people.

I'll be there representing the FSF and coordinating the action. Please join us, and bring friends. Let us know you're coming at info@defectivebydesign.org.

and cracking it.

you're protesting something that doesn't exist yet, I thought there was nothing lower than the endless hype around something that doesn't exist, but there is.

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and anticipation

>you're protesting something that doesn't exist yet, I thought
>there was nothing lower than the endless hype around something
>that doesn't exist, but there is.
>

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considering their track record and all. As far as I know, only product that they've released recently that didn't have DRM was that magic mouse.

that is an L.

i don't like 100 things about apple. i'm not protest shit they haven't said they're going to sell yet, becuase i don't know what it is.

Just saying "it will probably have some kind of drm, whatever it is, or might be, or might not be and so I don't like it, if it even exists at all" is fucking retarded.

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http://twit.cachefly.net/video/mbw/mbw0176/mbw0176_h264b_640x368_256.mp4

http://gizmodo.com/5456142/10-year-old-video-of-steve-jobs-in-shorts-defining-apple

http://www.apple.com

Think Different.

Recycle your e-waste, please.

:)

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/26/hp-slate-teases-us-with-another-video-appearance/

Still showing us nothing.

Difference between Apple and HP (everybody else) is the demonstration of a REAL product you can probably buy the SAME DAY. No one demos a product and makes you want that product like Steve Jobs. HP Slate is cool but it'll look ancient compare to what Cupertino's got in store.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/designer-publishes-leaked-apple-tablet-photos/

Apple to announce the iPhone to ALL US Carriers in 2010?  

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/25/tablet-hype-and-rumors-jobs-and-cook-carriers-and-iphone-apps/

I ldoubt it, but an industry "analyst" predicts so. But the comment about Apple's media event artwork gives this theory  some legs.  The art work is in the link and it does display the colors of the various cell phone companies.  Plus, that purple color in the lower right hand corner could be for Metro PCS. Hmmm......
 
 
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just some unicorn tears falling on the paintin prolly

http://imgsrv.gocomics.com/dim/?fh=8edd55b180b9690c1c531f6618e6ce9b

will still have to carry my iphone and laptop right?


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPS1DMlzz0M

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/26/mcgraw-hills-ceo-confirms-apple-tablet-debuting-tomorrow/

Color us (not) surprised, but Apple is definitely launching a tablet tomorrow. At least, according to the CEO of one of the planet's most noted book publishers. In a recent interview on CNBC, Terry McGraw (head honcho of McGraw-Hill, naturally), very openly admitted that books from his company would be coming to an Apple tablet "tomorrow," and he also confirmed that his company has "worked with Apple for quite awhile." As he dug the hole deeper, we also learned that the "tablet will be based on the iPhone operating system," and he noted that said books would be "transferable." We're assuming an updated iPhone OS is also in the works, one that presumably supports textbooks in the way that the mythical tablet might. Obviously we're not taking any of this as gospel until Stevie J confirms or denies it on stage tomorrow -- for all we know, Mr. McGraw may have just seen something speculative -- but it's not too often you see a CEO blow this much pointed smoke. Peek the full quote after the break along with the interview clip.

You should make a new thread this is over 100 and it hasnt started yet.

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http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/is-this-the-apple-tablet/


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Do
Not
Want

why would I want a tablet when I could get a macbook for that price?

I'm hoping this is their foray into netbook pricing area so 500-600 would be an ideal sweet spot for me.

So pissed about the hype for this.

it'll hopefully be between $299 and $599, more than a iPhone, less than the cheapest Mac, Mac mini. So $429-449-ish.

Visa at the ready.

Famous last words when talking about an Apple product. I mean look at their idea of an ultraportable.

If possible in GMT. Or how many hours from the time I'm making this post?

I've never actually bothered watching one of these, so I'm kinda interested what they're like.

08:00AM - Hawaii
10:00AM - Pacific
11:00AM - Mountain
12:00PM - Central
01:00PM - Eastern
06:00PM - London
07:00PM - Paris
09:00PM - Moscow

20 minutes it is then. Though as rjcc has now pointed out its not live anyway. Perhaps in an hour the videos will be out.

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most other reveals have been made public via a webcast.

you can watch it later, you've never been able to watch them live.

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leopard demo'd live.

like i said, they post the videos after.

but they don't broadcast the events, and they don't let anyone else do it either.

I'm watching laporte on ustream via iphone, we'll see how that holds up

it's cutting in and out constantly as is

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/live-from-the-apple-tablet-latest-creation-event/

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2010/01/27/012324-01-27-10apptabprtop.jpg

, or the link I posted above?

or the second picture now in that post?

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each and every image we post that isn't a press pic is watermarked.

but that's not why you said that.

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there, clear enough for you?

if it was posted elsewhere on the internet, please

go look at it there.

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Care to edit that statement?

bonus question: are you an idiot?

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so

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damn near all the RDF sites have the same watermarked image.

What time is the fucking announcement?

*mad as hell*

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see the 'Adjust accordingly' post.

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But here's a guy streaming from the conference:

http://www.ustream.tv/leolaporte

Will be funny to see him chucked out at least!

Watch it be a MacBook with a detachable tablet.

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XBL id: steelysteel
PSN id: steelysteel
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http://www.twitter.com/steelysteel

is when he first went electric.

If I'm sitting at home, I'm not on my iphone because i have a macbook sitting there.

i want to hear what the specs and price are. The OS changes look kinda ill though

i want to hear what the specs and price are. The OS changes look kinda ill though

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0128-rm-eng.jpg

embracing my geekdum

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/01/27/apple_reveals_long_awaited_multi_touch_ipad.html

Nothing I can't do on my iphone yet!

There better be some extra features at some point. Why would I want a giant iphone that doesn't fit in my pocket?!

show slight improvements here and there.

Nothing he's shown now is "revolutionary".

iPad.. basically its a working version of the giant iphone prop they've had in the Apple Store windows for years...

even though no one REALLY wants the cheapest one.

ooooh.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/item?siteID=123112&id=13872203

I *may* consider getting one.

Sketchbook is a great program, better IMO than Brushes.

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this looks familiar

probably means the site will change.

Doesn't really suit my needs.

This one, however, is putting me into a catatonic state. Just update the MBPs, Steve.

I'd rather have MS Office though on this puppy.

Still waiting on a price.

and get marvel to port over the digital comics, I'd cop. Plus, the Kindle iPhone app would still run on this, right?

Otherwise.

STILL
DO
NOT
WANT

if they don't price this motherfucker right niggas are going to flip.

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but he's one of only two living people I've ever known to actually use it.

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(given, we ARE their ad agency, but still)

How much?
LOL

and i was cracking the fuck up:


"No price, but regardless, iDontCare, iAmNotInterested, and most of all, iAmNotBuyingIt"

I really want to move over to Verizon because ATT&T sucks right now.

BOOM!!!

<-- My 6 month old mini-me

XBL id: steelysteel
PSN id: steelysteel
http://www.last.fm/user/steelysteel/
http://www.twitter.com/steelysteel

<-- My 6 month old mini-me

XBL id: steelysteel
PSN id: steelysteel
http://www.last.fm/user/steelysteel/
http://www.twitter.com/steelysteel

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Assuming there are enough stans outthere they will buy this and in bunches. $500-1000 and at some point someone will hack it so you get command prompts.

plus the sdk.


this thing has legs.

and in 3 yrs time entry will be 250.

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news to me.

iphones came out 2007.

uh yeah.

and i don't know how bad AT&T is...never had them...

is their service worth paying the internet access for $30 a month...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/ipad-has-optional-keyboard-dock/

..shoulda just had it run 10.6

odd that it wouldnt be able to.

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PSN id: steelysteel
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Kindle will not only price drop, but it's simply not the same shit. The real Kindle is 6", so it's smaller, plus the e-ink screen is a big plus for avid readers that don't want a screen shooting bright light at them all day. That 10-hour battery life on the iPad is killer, though, for having a color screen.

But I'm not paying for no damn wireless service for my e-reader after Kindle's free signal.

would dropping whispernet in exchange for everything else the ipad does actually be a hue sacrifice? where do you use the kindle to download shit that you aren't near a wifi hotspot?

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I use it as a reader, not as a computer. Basically, I have access to just the info I want, at good speeds, for free.

email
Twitter/Facebook
news
blogs (not through the pay subscribe model, but through the mobile version of Google Reader)
Remember The Milk task lists
Google Calendar

All used just for getting info, not for sending, of course, because the e-ink screen doesn't really justify typing out a lot of shit, because of the slow refresh. But yeah, I use the 3G all the time when I'm out and about and don't care or have the time to find a free wifi signal. I just pull the Kindle out and POW, got what I want.

Admittedly, though, nobody else I know with a Kindle does this, but they're also paying like 30 bucks for data plans...that they use to holler at Facebook all day. Fuck that.

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a couple of years ago. I just find that, normally, your argument of "why can't you just find a wifi spot" applied to my phone shit, and that data plans became beside the point for me. If I'm mobile, I'm getting shit done, and if I need a computer to knock something out, I may as well sit somewhere with wifi.

Eventually I became just fine with my phone being my phone and saving that extra 30 a month.

carrying a kindle would make sense

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so it's not even the size of a trade paperback, which I would normally be lugging with me almost everywhere I go, anyways. So I've eliminated that space and the space of a laptop, depending on what I need.

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I simply can't justify it for the cash. Keep in mind that I was in pretty early on using my phones to do everything under the sun. A couple of years in it was just like, "Man, I keep finding ways to utilize my phone to get my data charge's worth out of it...but I don't need any of it. I need that 30 bones more."

Of course the phone data shit is more useful and versatile, but I have internet at the crib and there are free wifi spots everywhere, like we talked about. I got my laptop, and iPad isn't gonna replace that, and I got my Kindle, and iPad isn't gonna replace that, not because it's not awesome, but because it's in between my Kindle and my Laptop as far as functionality, but couldn't really replace either, in my mind, and certainly not for the price.

...but compared to a macbook it seems pretty limited

It can be branded kinda like the U2 iPod from yester-year.

It would come preloaded with his entire discography, State Property: The Movie, The Black Album Movie and Amadale commercials.

Also, it should come with Season 1 of Chappelle's Show.

it's the Roc!

I could see getting one.

Fuck 3G tho. I'd just get CLEAR and one of those wifi boxes they sell for a little more a month but be able to use it with anything that uses wifi.

http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireless-Reading-Display-Generation/dp/B0015TG12Q/ref=kinww_ddp

iCan'tDoMath. $10 more. lolz.

That shit doesn't seem overpriced at all compared to a Kindle DX.

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I mean, mind you, I still would need comics on the thing for me to get it, but this is what any Kindle style device should be like.

AND if all the iPhone apps work, you can even get Kindle books on the thing + whatever Apple will offer.

So it's probably not coming in iPhone OS 4 either.

maybe they just didn't want to spoil the biggest feature of OS 4

I'm thinking 60 days or so..

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90 days for the ones with cellular radios.

I could be confusing those dates with something else, though.

THAT'S FUCKING IT?

Lock & delete this and lets k.i.m.

;)

http://www.apple.com/ipad/

useless, but free.

but free!!

is the best deal, and most alluring. Is that normal?

But, if this thing runs mostly iPhone apps, is there a point to having a non-mobile one?

They do here. My idea would be to get one of those wimax boxes that pump out wifi signals and fit in your pocket. That way you can use it with anything that uses wifi and pay once relatively low price a month ($45).

BUT, I would mainly use it for comics and books so the internet wouldn't really be a factor for me.


I still might do the above for my laptops tho. CLEAR is a lot faster than 3G, too.

that is prolly the more ideal situation. carry the mifi in your bag or pocket. the device itself is cheaper then the 130 more app is charging. surprised its so much, i guess cause its not a contract. too bad this couldnt be carrier independent.

CLEAR is $45 for unlimited use, but if you travel out of their area of coverage a lot, V or Sprint could make sense.

I really just stay in Philly and they've got that pretty well covered.

until clear gets more coverage.

in their 4G coverage area.

If the on-screen keyboard is on point, then maybe the 500 joint could be worth it for writers and such, but here's my thing: does it have USB ports? I would need to be able to dump photos and other files onto it. What I don't like is what I assume typing for more than a couple of minutes and staring straight down onto that screen would do to my neck.

not natural at all.
they shoulda came up with swype. swype even looks like an apple product except nopayne kinda endorses it.

were you really ever considering buying one of those?

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I don't really read those books that don't have pictures enough to want a Kindle, but if they made a color Kindle that was good for comics I'd jump on it.

Apple basically did that and now I'm just waiting to see if a company like Marvel decides to take advantage.


Even without the color, the Kindle is kinda cool, just too expensive for what it does.

people don't like that it's kinda tough to carry around and it costs quite a bit for a device that only does on thing?

we'll make one that's bigger and costs more and still doesn't do anything else.

GENIUS

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I find it's great as an info aggregating device.

Now, admittedly, my Kindle 2 cost 150, and was a gift from someone that had the inside industry connection to get that deal, and I would have never in my fucking life paid the full 250 or whatever for a Kindle...but it's dope for what it is, and people don't really use them to their full capabilities.

But sheeit, I bet DXs are gonna be 300 at MOST in a month. DXs will be EXTINCT by summer.

I'm on the fence - but it looks like it has the potential to be the best e-book reader out - we'll have to see how it performs in real-world light.

And if the web browsing is the exact same as an iPhone + BIGGER it's a lot more useful than a $300 net book, or $500 laptop.

And we don't know how local storage works. But most of the timeI use a laptop is to give presentations or take notes - seems like this does that. I have my desktops for *real* work.

It's not the HOLY GRAIL - but it's not exactly laughable.

its running on the iphone OS

it's not more useful than a netbook in any type of way.

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http://www.apple.com/ipad/gallery/

"it's so big. what are you gonna do with it?"

lmao. I had completely forgotten about the announcement.
what a great way to hear the news. a cute chick hating on
an Apple product

and sat down on the sofa with it to surf the web, was

"i'd really like a bigger one of these"

voila

i want to try one out first though - if it works well as a word processor then i'm getting one sooner rather than later

i think it will have pretty big appeal for older folks too
the iTunes Store & University (and now iBooks) is the killer app here

...instead of sitting on the couch with a laptop all the time, and its better than reading a magazine right?


lol

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0100-rm-eng.jpg

(c) dude on engadget comments

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0100-rm-eng.jpg

I guess this is their substitute for a built-in camera. Eh.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ (scroll down)

iPad Camera Connection Kit

The Camera Connection Kit gives you two ways to import photos and videos from a digital camera. The Camera Connector lets you import your photos and videos to iPad using the camera’s USB cable. Or you can use the SD Card Reader to import photos and videos directly from the camera’s SD card.

this looks like its still a work in progress.

i don't get the rather large black border around it. why wouldn't they use that real estate for more screen? makes it look kinda fat, not the sexy we expect from apple.

apps seem to be a bit rushed at this point. I think once the content starts to work like this:

http://www.bonnier.com/en/content/digital-magazines-bonnier-mag-prototype

i will be more inclined to get one of these.

w/o touching the screen...i guess.

looks like it could have been a little slimmer though....those are some thick thumbs

clipboards probably weigh as much and dont' have much bevel.

very clean.

I liked his quote...

"we didn't want the UI to get in the way of reading."

This thing might have just stolen the netbook game. The $500 joint, I mean. Not that $800 bullshit.

Netbooks can pretty much do anything an old desktop or laptop can do. This device is a bit more limited.

would be for the reasons iPad would make sense to me, except that iPad exceeds current netbooks in those areas: size, battery life, etc

Connectivity is a problem, though, with no standard USB I guess

I cna do anything I need to in order to get work done on a netbook.

this does not kill netbooks in any way shape or fashion, steve is trying to cover for the fact that for apple there's no money in netbooks.

the things this is good at, you wouldn't use a netbook for.

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I think this joint makes sense if you think of it as Apple's netbook/e-reader
"rich media" (HD video) capable device

edit. I just saw this thing doesn't even have multitasking. smh

>This thing might have just stolen the netbook game. The $500
>joint, I mean. Not that $800 bullshit.
if i cop this ugly piece of shit, its just so i can read magazines in color and do sketches on it. i already have a netbook that i got for $250 and it is actually a computer not a glorified ipod touch.

lol. foh.

it cant even come close to doing what netbooks do.

i can download files directly to my hard drive on it? run torrents? umm MULTITASK?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0128-rm-eng.jpg


wtf...someone with more cpu knoweldge than I care to explain how apple is skirting this, even as Adobe has said they can make it iwhatever compatiable?

the moment HTML5 is out and supported it's done.

>the moment HTML5 is out and supported it's done.

2012?

That is the 2nd milestone for w3c recommendation.

It should be a recommended standard at earliest by late 2010.

A good portion of it is already supported in most browsers.

even at the ridiculous price point.

that said, i'm not jumping on it just yet.

hopefully we get more viable tablet options before the year is out.

if not, i'm coppin. i couldn't pull the trigger on a netbook or an ereader, but i could go with a tablet.

finally admitting that complete touchscreen input is not the move, they should release a bluetooth gamepad, so niggas can properly enjoy Chinatown Wars on that 9.7 inch screen.

And totally anti-tablets. But I am starting to see the allure. In 2-3 years when this shit is super cheap, faster, with 1 TB memory, and wifi is literally everywhere for free (that I'm hoping for) - or even not free - then these could be pretty fucking amazing. Right now I just don't think they make sense.

I'm surprised how much I thought "hey I actually quite want one".

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haha

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I mean it doesn't cut off any immediate advantages (other than memory sticks), but who knows what accessories people might come up with. It's just a pointless obstacle to potentially good things. And how much would it cost to have one? Almost nothing I imagine.

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I mean I'm sorta intrigued but I dont know why.

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When it comes out go and try it. And try it for 15 minutes, not 1 minute.

You'll know whether it's for you.

iPad easier to fling across the room when Bonderman hangs a changeup.

to connect to the internet you would need a data plan orrrrrrrrrrrr u can connect for free via wifi hotspots??

http://news.zdnet.com/2422-19178_22-387701.html

and either a 3g one with no contract and get your own data plan or wifi one.

>and either a 3g one with no contract and get your own data plan or wifi one.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/pricing/

basically thats not enough reasons to justify owning one for me. lol.

This is Apple's Wii.

All jokes intended.

The baby's crying.

pretty disappointing

think about that before you reply.

can't download mp3s from anywhere but itunes store, no "downloads" folder for storing all the docs you download from online in one place, no ms word/excel (except through iwork), no (apparent) multitasking, no (as of yet) photo retouching software bundled in, etc. I just wish the thing was more like a low-horsepower computer (i.e., netbook) and less of an entertainment device.

i understand the argument that most people do the kinds of stuff above on their computer, but for me to buy this thing it would need to do a lot more of the stuff that my laptop does. i think it was forestall who said that "it adjusts to you, you don't have to adjust to it" and i just don't think that's true in this case.

>can't download mp3s from anywhere but itunes store, no
>"downloads" folder for storing all the docs you download from
>online in one place,

Can you back any of these "facts" up with links??

> no ms word/excel (except through iwork),
MS can program one, can't they?

>no (apparent) multitasking, no (as of yet) photo retouching
>software bundled in, etc.

Still things we don't know.

>I just wish the thing was more like
>a low-horsepower computer (i.e., netbook) and less of an
>entertainment device.

Or: Get a netbook if you want a low power computer.

Oh, you want a Netbook with the Mac OS X and big horsepower at 1/2 the cost of the cheapest MacBook??


>i understand the argument that most people do the kinds of
>stuff above on their computer, but for me to buy this thing it
>would need to do a lot more of the stuff that my laptop does.
>i think it was forestall who said that "it adjusts to you, you
>don't have to adjust to it" and i just don't think that's true
>in this case.

I don't think we know enough about this device yet to draw a lot of the conclusions you just made.

I'm the other way: I'm assuming there's a place to store documents on it - because you can CREATE documents on it.

I'm also assuming you can load MP3s on it because you can do that with any MacBook, iPod and iPhone.

60 days.

>>can't download mp3s from anywhere but itunes store, no
>>"downloads" folder for storing all the docs you download
>from
>>online in one place,
>
>Can you back any of these "facts" up with links??

No, obviously I can't, but the keynote didn't show any of this kind of functionality. My assumption, admittedly a big one but based on the way the iphone operates, is that opening links and email attachments opens them in new tabs of safari or mail, and that there's no finder app.

>> no ms word/excel (except through iwork),
>MS can program one, can't they?

they already have one for os x (although admittedly it sucks). if you read my original post, my complaint is that they didn't use os x as the foundation of the os, but a modified version of the iphone os instead. it's more like an iphone than a macbook. it's a simple complaint and one that i'm sure a lot of other people have.

I'm tempted to agree with you on multitasking, and it could always come in a future update. if retouching were supported in the photo app i'm sure it would have been in the keynote. no usb means it can't replace your laptop as an image tank on photo trips without at the least some kind of third-party 30-pin card reader. again, my point is that they could've had the "real" iphoto on there if the foundation were garden-variety os x and usb, and not the iphone os and the 30-pin connector.


>>I just wish the thing was more like
>>a low-horsepower computer (i.e., netbook) and less of an
>>entertainment device.
>
>Or: Get a netbook if you want a low power computer.
>
>Oh, you want a Netbook with the Mac OS X and big horsepower at
>1/2 the cost of the cheapest MacBook??
>

whoa there buddy. i have a macbook pro, i don't care about having big horsepower on an ipad and i would be willing to pay more for a product that's more full-featured. the price is a good deal for what the product is, but the product that apple released is not what i had hoped it would be and that's all i'm saying.

>>i understand the argument that most people do the kinds of
>>stuff above on their computer, but for me to buy this thing
>it
>>would need to do a lot more of the stuff that my laptop
>does.
>>i think it was forestall who said that "it adjusts to you,
>you
>>don't have to adjust to it" and i just don't think that's
>true
>>in this case.
>
>I don't think we know enough about this device yet to draw a
>lot of the conclusions you just made.

maybe you're right.

>I'm the other way: I'm assuming there's a place to store
>documents on it - because you can CREATE documents on it.

my assumption is that there's going to be an "iwork documents" sync option in itunes and not a real file browser on the device, but you're right that i could be completely wrong. what i'm skeptical about is, for instance, if someone posts a link on OKP, am I going to be able to click it, choose whether to open it in safari or throw it in my itunes and have it sync when i hook it back up to my computer? can i use it as usb mass storage and interact with the files i drag onto it with the apps on the device? i believe the answer's going to be no, at least with the initial os rollout, since you can't do anything like that on the iphone.

>I'm also assuming you can load MP3s on it because you can do
>that with any MacBook, iPod and iPhone.

you can't download tracks off the web on anything but the macbook using anything but the itunes store.

>60 days.

60 days.

But I don't reckon its such a big deal. It's meant to be a slick entertainment device (with a little extra functionality). You start putting a proper OS with folders etc. it becomes less clean. All it means is you sort out you're music collection on your main computer, like with ipods and iphones. I really don't think thats all that bad.

That's exactly what I'm saying. I just wish it were the other way around.

>can't download mp3s from anywhere but itunes store, no
>"downloads" folder for storing all the docs you download from
>online in one place,

there's an app for that. Several in fact.

no ms word/excel (except through iwork),

there's an app for that. Several in fact.

>no (apparent) multitasking,

this is true.

no (as of yet) photo retouching
>software bundled in,

there's a (free) app for that.

etc. I just wish the thing was more like
>a low-horsepower computer (i.e., netbook) and less of an
>entertainment device.
>

A lot of the functionality is expandable depending upon what programs you put on it, but I understand the criticism about multitasking - that's uncalled for. And I still think the hardware specs are a bit below where they should be.

>no ms word/excel (except through iwork),
>
>there's an app for that. Several in fact.

but they're sketchy and can't be counted on to not fuck up the formatting. I type a lot in English and Japanese and am working on a 350+ page Word file that I'd like to be able to chip away at on my portable device while I'm riding the bus, train, plane, etc. A touchscreen macbook air-type device would allow me to leave my 4+ pound laptop at home.

>>no (apparent) multitasking,
>
>this is true.
>
>no (as of yet) photo retouching
>>software bundled in,
>
>there's a (free) app for that.

true, but it doesn't have half the functionality of iphoto. and most importantly you can't get your new photos on the thing when you're in the field. with a 64 GB SSD, if you could use it as an image tank for photo trips the thing would be ideal. i'm not saying the ipad sucks, just that i wish they'd taken it in another direction. i guess i can hold out for some kind of "ipad pro" in the future though.

>etc. I just wish the thing was more like
>>a low-horsepower computer (i.e., netbook) and less of an
>>entertainment device.
>>
>
>A lot of the functionality is expandable depending upon what
>programs you put on it, but I understand the criticism about
>multitasking - that's uncalled for. And I still think the
>hardware specs are a bit below where they should be.

no doubt.

>true, but it doesn't have half the functionality of iphoto.
>and most importantly you can't get your new photos on the
>thing when you're in the field. with a 64 GB SSD, if you could
>use it as an image tank for photo trips the thing would be
>ideal. i'm not saying the ipad sucks, just that i wish they'd
>taken it in another direction. i guess i can hold out for some
>kind of "ipad pro" in the future though.

There are paid apps that do a higher level of photo-editing than Phosotoshop.com.

And apparently, so long as you have an adapter, the iPad actually can import photos in the field.

It sounds like what you (and most of us) want is a slimmer, lighter Modbook.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1prGIw9H-X0&feature=player_embedded

one obstacle to ownership down

>can't download mp3s from anywhere but itunes store

on the device...but you can get content from anywhere. I buy music from amazon more than itunes nowadays, bird.


>no "downloads" folder for storing all the docs you download from
>online in one place

there's a shared folder from what I read.

>no ms word/excel (except through iwork)

this whole working on this thing...nah. i wanna surf the web, sketch and watch MS3k on it, no 'work'. it's a toy. a very nice toy.

>no (apparent) multitasking

this looks like the line, single apps on iDevices except for itunes + the other built in apps.

> no (as of yet) photo retouching

but this thing doesn't have a camera... i can see how this can be a portable editing station, a limited one at that

>software bundled in, etc. I just wish the thing was more like
>a low-horsepower computer (i.e., netbook) and less of an
>entertainment device.

make a mac netbook or get a macbook. this won't change.


>
>i understand the argument that most people do the kinds of
>stuff above on their computer, but for me to buy this thing it
>would need to do a lot more of the stuff that my laptop does.
>i think it was forestall who said that "it adjusts to you, you
>don't have to adjust to it" and i just don't think that's true
>in this case.

don't buy it. lol

>>can't download mp3s from anywhere but itunes store
>
>on the device...but you can get content from anywhere. I buy
>music from amazon more than itunes nowadays, bird.

yeah, but not on the device. if i'm chilling on the train and pull up some article about a new artist, i can't download their mixtape or whatever on my device or throw it on my ipod - i have to wait til i get home. this alone isn't a deal breaker for me, but it is pretty shitty.


>>no "downloads" folder for storing all the docs you download
>from
>>online in one place
>
>there's a shared folder from what I read.

you got a link?


>>no ms word/excel (except through iwork)
>
>this whole working on this thing...nah. i wanna surf the web,
>sketch and watch MS3k on it, no 'work'. it's a toy. a very
>nice toy.

dude, i understand what it is. i watched the keynote. i've been waiting, like everyone else, for years for this thing to come out though. i had high expectations and i'm disappointed. why won't you let me be disappointed, jetblack???

>>no (apparent) multitasking
>
>this looks like the line, single apps on iDevices except for
>itunes + the other built in apps.
>
>> no (as of yet) photo retouching
>
>but this thing doesn't have a camera... i can see how this can
>be a portable editing station, a limited one at that

more importantly it doesn't have usb. it could've been a sick laptop replacement for photography work in the field. i'm going on a two-week wildlife photo trip next month and it would've been great to be able to leave my macbook at home. no dice.

>>software bundled in, etc. I just wish the thing was more
>like
>>a low-horsepower computer (i.e., netbook) and less of an
>>entertainment device.
>
>make a mac netbook or get a macbook. this won't change.

the keynote was yesterday and i threw my reaction out there.

>don't buy it. lol

*heeds advice, puts card back in wallet*

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1001q3f8hhr/event/index.html

Steve jobs over heard some brothas and made a big ass iphone
this will be huge among youngsters, they will sell 1 billion

it seems a little underwhelming and the lack of multitasking is irksome but the pricing (and no contract on 3G) could be doable, 'specially if I get it from the states.

dunno

This shit is the genetic retarded offspring of a Mac Air and it's cousin the iTouch.

You mean I ran home to read up on this shit just to hear it's bloated POS? No OSX? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! XD

browse the file system, run non Apple approved apps and flash. It's a glorified touch/ebook reader and fails to meet the higher aspirations that Apple has for it because Steve wants to keep it pristine and closed.

and getting an email about it from apple last night calling it the "the most advanced technology in a magical and revolutionary device'....

i'm disappointed. how can apple claim this is the best internet surfing experience without flash support? half the sites i would want to go and watch videos on are in flash......

the lack of multi-tasking is not a big deal, but a nuisance considering the price.

@ $500 as an oversized touch, its fine. but those other price points are ridiculous considering the limitations of the OS/device.

with the release of html5 you will no longer need flash.

Will it still be out there? yes.

but why build a site that is bulky, slow, and cumbersome to build when basic markup will do the same.

you know what'll read basic markup just as smooth then as it does today and STILL play the vids you want to see?

iPad.

html5 is already supported with late this year as a optimistic date for the 3rd milestone of recommendation.

browsers are already supporting it.

you actin like most sites aren't still built to work with fuckin IE5

they're not switching to html 5 this year just becuase it's getting official

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that is one of the main driving forces of html5, standardization and uniformity that's been bastardized by M$.

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dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

since activex is moreso IE/Windows crap along with the doodoo that IE lets web coders get away with, while Flash is cross browser/OS. HTML5 seems very lovely & all but why not have a device do BOTH latest standard in dynamic web and Flash? Sure you can argue that we should segue away from Flash but yet we still have tons of web content that still uses it from videos to random bits of web games - almost like arguing that Blu-Ray players should do away with supporting DVD and CDs henceforth.

i got no problem with that on my iphone, since its my secondary internet source for when I'm on the go, but thats inexcuseable. I'd consider the ipad as a netbook option, but they are really limiting the computing ability.

you mean i can't watch hulu on the go? no thanks.

http://www.kuhvet.com/2010/01/28/rihanna-on-the-ipad/
So Bay wit it.

EPIC FAIL!!!!

so he could give a presentation

FAIL.

imo, most Apple products are either stubborn with their proprietary bullsh*t
or trying too hard to declare something as "obsolete"

bottom line, is there any logical reason to exclude flash support from this device?

>so he could give a presentation
>
>FAIL.
>
>imo, most Apple products are either stubborn with their
>proprietary bullsh*t
>or trying too hard to declare something as "obsolete"
>
>bottom line, is there any logical reason to exclude flash
>support from this device?

Logical: Because Flash s a nightmare on the battery life. (And I use Flash a lot for creating online training materials.)

But the real reason is probably more like: It's to placate the content providers that Apple is trying to get to sale their content - like Sony, etc.

There are Quicklime pirate sites out there - but many fewer than Flash based ones.
I think that's the "real" reason.

As for DisplayPort - i like it. I've had a Dell monitor with Displayport and was a little peeved when the Mac shipped with Mini-DisplayPort. But Apple now sells all the adaptors I need , except a MiniDisplayport to HDMI (available at Monoprice.)

http://store.apple.com/us/search?find=displayport&mco=Nzc1MjMwNg

1. i already do loads of web surfing on my iPhone - it will be immeasurably better on the iPad
2. laptops are portable devices, not 'mobile.' You need at least a good seat and probably a desk and a power point to enjoy using them. I never use them except at home or at work, and i never like using them with lots of other people about, too conspicuous. Not so with the iPad
3. this is the ultimate device for reference books. no need to lug them about but get full colour and all the benefits of interactivity
4. websites can be things of beauty but using a computer usually feels like work; experience should be better with this
5. far, far, far better option for watching TV/videos than a smartphone or a laptop
6. to be honest most of the functions my laptops/PCs provide are rarely used. it's all about email, web, music, videos, photos 99% of the time. the other big one is word processing - interesting to see how viable iWorks is on this


no flash? but at least no flash adverts either
yeah there's a lot of features i wish it had but i think the point is hopefully this will create a new standard for computing devices and we'll get all those features in the years to come

>2. laptops are portable devices, not 'mobile.' You need at
>least a good seat and probably a desk and a power point to
>enjoy using them. I never use them except at home or at work,
>and i never like using them with lots of other people about,
>too conspicuous. Not so with the iPad

you mean to tell me you don't think an iPad will be conspicuous?

BALLING

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1. games. bigger screen substantially extends the potential of the iPhone games platform.

2. highly adaptable in the practical/physical sense. it's just a slate so corporations could be making their own apps and using this thing around the workplace. mechanics and doctors walking about on some Star Trek ish

feel that the specs are lacking a little.

Oh well, if Apple doesn't make a tablet that's 100% there, someone else will. But this is a step in the right direction.

could be gamechanging

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Blizzard...I hope you are paying attention.

It doesn't even have to be 3D Starcraft 2 , it can be 1998 Starcraft and they can sell you Brood War...again.

Keep @#$@#$$ that chicken...

But you're bang on. There is massive potential for it. MASSIVE. Haters just wanna hate.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad

LMAO

bravo.

http://gizmodo.com/5459308/slate-showdown-ipad-vs-hp-slate-vs-joojoo-vs-the-android-tablets

it doesnt do everything "we" want it to do at this point, but for students from elementary on up this is the perfect device and it will only get better and cheaper...i expect to see these devices in all types of schools across the country

1) again, this is the f*ckin US. I don't know why ppl kept acting like
that much money will be spent on education. hell, even right now
Obama is proposing some freezes on educational spending. if the US
gets something like that, it'd be 5-10 years after Japan does

2) if school kids do get tablets, they won't be Apple tablets

3) http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/22/olpc-shows-off-absurdly-thin-xo-3-concept-tablet-for-2012/

(OLPC = one laptop per child)

it's either vanilla or nothing at all. everyone uses the same shit so it would be manageable. managing too many variations of hardware is a fucking nightmare.

is...apple is setting the precedent by releasing this now...i know theres other tablets....but now erything else is gonna have to basically follow this....and this one will only get better....i'm not sayin the govt will provide them...but is gonna be just like kids have cell phones...its gonna be somethin they cant do without...and parents will get them bcz they will be affordable....eliminating lugging around heavy ass text books and shit..

this is a category defining device much in the same way the iPhone was category defining for smart phones.

is it AS category defining....not so much.

but hell no one thought the iPod would take off and now you got how many different versions of the same idea across how many brands?

bwahahaha @ the HP Slate following this, that's like saying a Ferrari California will have to follow a Mazda Miata or a Kia

also:

I think this'll also be a good time to refresh our memories
about the Courier. so, folks won't accuse them of "copying"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D58fxzRV5HY&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIgNfp-MdI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFQWc79TYcU

I'd love to hear this

get into all that apple vs pc shit...i dont give a damn who makes it..ive been a pc guy for all my life...but uhh..i do have an ipod..and its great...ive used macs and pcs alike tho...but i'm not into arguing against it just bcuz apple makes it....i'll leave that to you guys...but i do know they have a track record for making good shit...and this thing is only gonna get better....

I guess I can accept that.

I was hoping to see a list of at least 3 things that it does better than a modern netbook.

For my mother's birthday in May I plan on having *all* of our photo albums scanned into digital form.I want to get her a digital photo frame for her with the pics that she can put in the front room and show her friends, etc.

This seems like the ultimate (although expensive) photo frame.

Is there anything else that compares in terms of size, touchscreen, and the ability to change orientation??

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/29/steve-jobs-compares-ipad-battery-life-to-kindles-youre-not-g/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_EcybyLJS8

kthxbai.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVnw3tKAZoY&feature=player_embedded#

that's all folks!

doesn't get discussed

some important stuff:
- the battery life is 10 hours at the most draining rate. win.
- the screen allows people to look at it from quite wide angles. if you can't figure out why that's important... think a bit longer, you'll get it eventually.
- typing on it is silent. again, if you can't figure out why this is important...
- it runs fast

screen quality, battery life, performance lag and input were always going to be the things to make or break this product... and they nailed all of them

"typing on it is silent"

lol


10 hour battery life at the most draining rate? You realize that's not true right?


>doesn't get discussed
>
>some important stuff:
>- the battery life is 10 hours at the most draining rate.
>win.
>- the screen allows people to look at it from quite wide
>angles. if you can't figure out why that's important... think
>a bit longer, you'll get it eventually.
>- typing on it is silent. again, if you can't figure out why
>this is important...
>- it runs fast
>
>screen quality, battery life, performance lag and input were
>always going to be the things to make or break this product...
>and they nailed all of them


http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

iPad is much bigger with more room for battery cells
iPad runs for a month on standby, iPhone lasts under two weeks
you figure it out

of course, you could say that streaming video over 3G is the most draining rate, but it was pretty obvious i was referring to the 10 hour video claim

since they're both doing pretty much the same thing on standby, you can estimate the comparative size by comparing the standby times

and yeah it is quite important that the device consumes as little power as possible when in standby, means you can use it more before it drains

>some important stuff:
>- the battery life is 10 hours at the most draining rate.
>win.

As said, this is an outright lie. Like all battery life claims.

>- the screen allows people to look at it from quite wide
>angles. if you can't figure out why that's important... think
>a bit longer, you'll get it eventually.

Nope, can't see much advantage.

>- typing on it is silent. again, if you can't figure out why
>this is important...

Not important.

>- it runs fast
>
>screen quality, battery life, performance lag and input were
>always going to be the things to make or break this product...
>and they nailed all of them

Don't get me wrong, I think it's interesting. Not perfect though. I'd tell anyone to give it at least a year cos you can bet it'll get exponentially cheaper, faster, more memory, less buggy (cos there will be some) in no time at all. Buying this from the off doesn't make sense to me.

That said I'm not gonna make my mind up about it completely till I've played with one for an hour at least.

Might as well not buy shit.

>though. I'd tell anyone to give it at least a year cos you can
>bet it'll get exponentially cheaper, faster, more memory, less
>buggy (cos there will be some) in no time at all. Buying this
>from the off doesn't make sense to me.
>

that's true. But the first cycle of any new product is always particularly vunerable. All those people with the first iPhones I'm sure are so happy they can't use 3g. Clearly in no time at all it will get WAY better. After that it's just steady progression.

>doesn't get discussed
>
>some important stuff:
>- the battery life is 10 hours at the most draining rate.
>win.

Claimed battery rates are always bullshit until someone verifies em

>- the screen allows people to look at it from quite wide
>angles. if you can't figure out why that's important... think
>a bit longer, you'll get it eventually.

Same with any other wide screen portrait tablet that this'll go against.. that's like saying "The car can stop tapping on the break peddle & charge forth with a gas while you can go reverse using the shifter" as if any other car on the market is lacking.

>- typing on it is silent. again, if you can't figure out why
>this is important...

*shhhhhhhhhhhhh* don't type so loud... or else massa is gonna flip when he finds out you can not only read.. but type on the computer!

>- it runs fast

Running 1Ghz and one-task-at-a-time I would hope so

>screen quality, battery life, performance lag and input were
>always going to be the things to make or break this product...
>and they nailed all of them

There's cellphones that have more functionality then this huge chunk of eyecandy let alone any full feature tablets that runs real OS'

>>doesn't get discussed
>>
>>some important stuff:
>>- the battery life is 10 hours at the most draining rate.
>>win.
>
>Claimed battery rates are always bullshit until someone
>verifies em
>

not when they tell you in simple testable terms what it can do, like 'play video for 10 hours straight', they can't just lie

>>- the screen allows people to look at it from quite wide
>>angles. if you can't figure out why that's important...
>think
>>a bit longer, you'll get it eventually.
>
>Same with any other wide screen portrait tablet that this'll
>go against.. that's like saying "The car can stop tapping on
>the break peddle & charge forth with a gas while you can go
>reverse using the shifter" as if any other car on the market
>is lacking.

i think you misunderstood my point. the display technology they're using has a much greater viewable angle, so you don't need to be directly in front of it to see properly

>>- it runs fast
>
>Running 1Ghz and one-task-at-a-time I would hope so
>

so what? i tried one of those sony eReader devices, there was a lot of lag on the display/reaction, it put me off buying one

>>screen quality, battery life, performance lag and input were
>>always going to be the things to make or break this
>product...
>>and they nailed all of them
>
>There's cellphones that have more functionality then this huge
>chunk of eyecandy let alone any full feature tablets that runs
>real OS'

oh yeah all those fully featured tablets that i've never seen on sale in any shops and only seen one person use in my entire life

they marketed the iPad as a netbook killer

the omission of a real OS, multi-tasking, front-facing camera
are all worthy of pointing out bc--like rjcc said--you can
just rock with a netbook (and yes, there are netbooks that can play
720p) and your smartphone... if they addressed the shortcomings,
then it'd be a solid product. otherwise, they need to chill
with all the braggin and boastin:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/31/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-lxvii-steve-jobs-lashes-out-at-google/

oh wow....he mentioned my flash5 comment.

that avy gets funnier every time i see it LOL

so... no surprise there

fark it...

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/

"what other stuff was over hyped - what about the blah blah blah blah blah"

Sorry I baaarely heard of the other devices he mentions - can't say they was THAT hyped if they're not that popular to begin with.

"And the HP Slate? Consumers aren't clamoring for a Win 7 / Vista tablet blah blah blah"

lol - so wait, his prediction on "what the consumers want" dictates how this thing is pushed out, implemented & functions and thus in the same class as the stuff he mentioned beforehand that was vaporware? lollerskates

"Really you disappointed that they not doing OSX? that blah blah blah blah blah? Like MS does different versions of Windows kernels? CE? Vista 7? blah blah blah blah blah? Chrome OS and Android? blah blah blah..."

Roflols Royce @ mentioning Chrome OS at all - the first time I ever seen that mentioned ANYWHERE regarding the iPad putdowns. For one there's nothing in the pipelines for Chrome for anyone to mention it seriously - anyone who likes the idea of Chrome OS knows it's mainly proof of concept at best @ this point - nothing more.

lol @ the sly snark of "Vista 7", and him avoidin the fact that ish is actually scalable enough to run on a small tablet device both functionality wise & price wise.

At the end of the day - if it was a manufacture today that came out with a tablet and they had Ballmer stand behind it as "the greatest MS innovation ever"... and the shit ran Windows Mobile - it'd be an even bigger failure with MS being the "antichrist" and all.

M$ is just really big and really tied to the past, legacy shit but they are trying. M$ tried to shoe-horn a full Windows OS into a smartphone and failed and KEEP failing...the next version of Windows Mobile has to be something totally different.

Apple on the other hand, made a whole new OS 3 years ago just for iPhone, they keep refining it and it works pretty well and damn near everyone is trying to emulate or exceed that experience which is good for all consumers.

If not this iPad, then what do you want? You have choices, you got HP Slate with Windows 7, which I personally think looks good. I'll be going to Best Buy when those come out in the not to distant future to try it. You got that JooJoo/CrunchPad tablet with a big ass screen and an app store but that whole situation looks shady imho. Lenovo has that convertable tablet/netbook, they are going to sell a lot of those. And damn near every other company made a tablet, not entirely because of Apple. The reason why we are seeing all these devices is simple: the tech is here and it's getting better daily.

>M$ is just really big and really tied to the past, legacy
>shit but they are trying. M$ tried to shoe-horn a full Windows
>OS into a smartphone and failed and KEEP failing...the next
>version of Windows Mobile has to be something totally
>different.

Well there was a couple of concepts of XP running on a mobile phone device, but that never came out due to the thing costing 2 grand if it was to drop @ the time. So i agree with the past failures

>Apple on the other hand, made a whole new OS 3 years ago just
>for iPhone, they keep refining it and it works pretty well and
>damn near everyone is trying to emulate or exceed that
>experience which is good for all consumers.

Well, no way I can nopayne on that and downplay the impact of the iPhone on the smartphone market. At the same time the shortcomings of it is getting more n more obvious as other smart phone folks either caught up or surpassed it from Android to even the fact that you can run Linux on a phone now-n-days.

>If not this iPad, then what do you want? You have choices, you
>got HP Slate with Windows 7, which I personally think looks
>good. I'll be going to Best Buy when those come out in the not
>to distant future to try it. You got that JooJoo/CrunchPad
>tablet with a big ass screen and an app store but that whole
>situation looks shady imho. Lenovo has that convertable
>tablet/netbook, they are going to sell a lot of those. And
>damn near every other company made a tablet, not entirely
>because of Apple. The reason why we are seeing all these
>devices is simple: the tech is here and it's getting better
>daily.

Yea the slate is one of the big temptations I had in mind along with a couple of the convertable jawns including the Lenovo you mentioning. IDK, the iPad's offerings is not bad - in fact it's damn good when compared to a Kindle - overkill even since the media capabilities is gonna kick a kindle's ass. Which sort of adds hilarity to this since while iPad overkills on a Kindle in price/functionality, you have Win 7 OS devices dropping that'll do the same thing to the iPad on some big-dog-eats-lil'dog-then-get-ate-by-wolf type shit.

cause I'm admittedly not an apple enthusiast.

my reasoning is that being "in the know" has it advantages in that you can try out products before they hit critical mass (the 2.0 version will be better). As long as you get the mid level one you can sell it for a decent price around the time the next one is coming out and K.I.M.

It's not perfect, by any means, but I lug around my macbook (plus numerous chargers) every day and the option to have something that can do most of the things I do on my laptop (even ideally) gives it a green light for me. I use public transportation and it could possibly come with 4G (since Telia has introduced it here in a beta like stage).

Why not? The thing I won't do is try and talk non tech people into copping one because I'm not fully sold yet myself.

forced Amazon into accepting higher selling prices for eBooks because Apple's book store is going to price between $13-$17, rather than the $9.99 for most Kindle releases.


LO asshole L.

HOARD.

It's MacBook time.

They're so secretive and calculating that speculation runs rampant every time the Store goes down. I dunno why, but I had a feeling nothing big was coming today, but people were selling their MacBooks and such yesterday like mad.

I don't beleive in stuff until stuff happens (c) Bernie Mac, censored

they can't add new inventory to the system without hurting their uptime? I assume they're smarter than that so it's gotta be for marketing purposes.

our tips blow up every time.

it's usually nothing unless you already know something's coming.

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

like a time where the tip is dead on?

That bitch is always up.

http://gizmodo.com/5470064/autotune-the-steve-jobs-ipad-keynote-please

PLEASE LOCK AND ARCHIVE THIS KTHXBAI

http://www.joehewitt.com/

the thing about the iPad though... it's Apple's last shot at a 'Windows killer'

http://gizmodo.com/5486444/official-ipad-launching-here-april-3-pre+orders-march-12

It's official: iPad's launching in the US on April 3, with the 3G modeling coming later in the month. Pre-orders start next week, March 12.

April 3, interestingly, is a Saturday, and exactly 59 days after the iPad launch, placing it precisely within the 60-90 day availability window Jobs promised. April's still not setting an exact date for the 3G model, promising late April. Pre-orders start a week from today.

For folks uh-broad—Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Spain, Switzerland and the UK—both vanilla Wi-Fi and 3G models are launching simultaneously in "late April."

So, raise your hand if you're waiting for the 3G model.

iPad Available in US on April 3
Pre-Order on March 12
CUPERTINO, Calif., March 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ — Apple® today announced that its magical and revolutionary iPad will be available in the US on Saturday, April 3, for Wi-Fi models and in late April for Wi-Fi + 3G models. In addition, all models of iPad will be available in Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Spain, Switzerland and the UK in late April.
Beginning a week from today, on March 12, US customers can pre-order both Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi + 3G models from Apple's online store (www.apple.com) or reserve a Wi-Fi model to pick up on Saturday, April 3, at an Apple retail store.
"iPad is something completely new," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "We're excited for customers to get their hands on this magical and revolutionary product and connect with their apps and content in a more intimate, intuitive and fun way than ever before."
Starting at just $499, iPad lets users browse the web, read and send email, enjoy and share photos, watch videos, listen to music, play games, read ebooks and much more. iPad is just 0.5 inches thick and weighs just 1.5 pounds-thinner and lighter than any laptop or netbook-and delivers battery life of up to 10 hours.*
iPad's revolutionary Multi-Touch™ interface makes surfing the web an entirely new experience, dramatically more interactive and intimate than on a computer. You can read and send email on iPad's large screen and almost full-size "soft" keyboard or import photos from a Mac®, PC or digital camera, see them organized as albums, and enjoy and share them using iPad's elegant slideshows. iPad makes it easy to watch movies, TV shows and YouTube, all in HD, or flip through the pages of an ebook you downloaded from Apple's new iBookstore while listening to your music collection.
The App Store on iPad lets you wirelessly browse, buy and download new apps from the world's largest app store. iPad includes 12 new innovative apps designed especially for iPad and will run almost all of the more than 150,000 apps on the App Store, including apps already purchased for your iPhone® or iPod touch®. Developers are already creating exciting new apps designed for iPad that take advantage of its Multi-Touch interface, large screen and high-quality graphics.
The new iBooks app for iPad includes Apple's new iBookstore, the best way to browse, buy and read books on a mobile product. The iBookstore will feature books from the New York Times Best Seller list from both major and independent publishers, including Hachette Book Group, HarperCollins Publishers, Macmillan Publishers, Penguin Group and Simon & Schuster.
The iTunes® Store gives iPad users access to the world's most popular online music, TV and movie store with a catalog of over 12 million songs, over 55,000 TV episodes and over 8,500 films including over 2,500 in stunning high definition. All the apps and content you download on iPad from the App Store, iTunes Store and iBookstore will be automatically synced to your iTunes library the next time you connect with your computer.
Pricing & Availability
iPad will be available in Wi-Fi models on April 3 in the US for a suggested retail price of $499 for 16GB, $599 for 32GB, $699 for 64GB. The Wi-Fi + 3G models will be available in late April for a suggested retail price of $629 for 16GB, $729 for 32GB and $829 for 64GB. iPad will be sold in the US through the Apple Store® (www.apple.com), Apple's retail stores and select Apple Authorized Resellers.
iPad will be available in both Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi + 3G models in late April in Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Spain, Switzerland and the UK. International pricing will be announced in April. iPad will ship in additional countries later this year.
The iBooks app for iPad including Apple's iBookstore will be available as a free download from the App Store in the US on April 3, with additional countries added later this year.
*Battery life depends on device settings, usage and other factors. Actual results vary.
Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation with its award-winning computers, OS X operating system and iLife and professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital media revolution with its iPod portable music and video players and iTunes online store, and has entered the mobile phone market with its revolutionary iPhone.
© 2010 Apple Inc. All rights reserved. Apple, the Apple logo, Mac, Mac OS, Macintosh, Multi-Touch, iPhone, iPod touch, iTunes and Apple Store are trademarks of Apple. Other company and product names may be trademarks of their respective owners.

>"iPad is something completely new," said Steve Jobs, Apple's
>CEO. "We're excited for customers to get their hands on this
>magical and revolutionary product and connect with their apps
>and content in a more intimate, intuitive and fun way than
>ever before."

perfect timing for my borndate.

either as

a) Something to dick around on the internet with when in front of the couch.

or

b) A kindle replacement, where being able to download a book anywhere isn't really a big deal.

Paying $30 a month for 3G on a device that big but that isn't an actual computer seems like a waste. Easier to get just an iPhone if you want something that you can take with you and do all of the same things with.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/hp-slate-makes-an-appearance-to-show-off-flash-stays-for-a-rock/

"...this video from Adobe showing it in action. Yep, there it is,
playing video, running casual Flash games, and using AIR applications..."

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/03/09/ipad-will-lack-some-standard-iphone-apps-at-launch/

iPad will lack some standard iPhone apps at launch
by Dave Caolo (RSS feed) on Mar 9th 2010 at 1:00PM

Wired's Brian X. Chen noticed that Apple's iPad press release touts "12 new innovative apps designed especially for the iPad." Take a look at the screenshot at right and you'll see twelve apps: Videos, iPod, Maps, Photos, Mail, Safari, App Store, iTunes, YouTube, Contacts, Calendar and Notes. That means a few apps that ship with the iPhone -- Stocks, Calculator, Clock, Weather and Voice Memos -- are missing.

Thus, the mystery begins. Where are The Final Five? Chen suggests that they'll be released as free apps in the App Store. John Gruber believes that design problems caused the team (specifically, Steve Jobs) to withhold the apps. I agree with John and Brian.

Consider the calculator app. It looks great on the iPhone, as the iPhone is about the size of a pocket calculator. If it were simply "blown up" to accommodate the iPad's screen, it would resemble one of those dollar store calculators with the enormous buttons for older folks. Definitely not what Apple is after. Also, the press release says, "... designed especially for the iPad" (emphasis mine). The five missing apps haven't yet received that loving attention, at least to Steve's satisfaction.

As for getting them on the iPad, I bet they'll be a part of the next OS release and in the App Store from then on. That way, Apple won't be tied to the OS whenever they want to update those apps, and they'll have time between now and then to get them just right.

they need rewritten apps like the others. stocks is going to go from simple to all daytrader-y. watch.

Especially their little bullshit calculator.

And even the clock can be easily replaced as well.

as usual, I'm too lazy to make my own post so I'm sticking this here.

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/does_html5_really_beat_flash_surprising_results_of_new_tests.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+readwriteweb+%28ReadWriteWeb%29

Does HTML5 Really Beat Flash? The Surprising Results of New Tests
Written by Sarah Perez / March 10, 2010 7:15 AM / 48 Comments
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With the impending launch of the Apple iPad, the Cupertino-based company's shunning of Adobe Flash technology has been brought to the forefront of technological discussions. While it was one thing to forgo Flash on a small, mobile device such as the iPhone or iPod Touch, some are questioning whether lack of Flash support is going to be a make-it-or-break it feature for the new slate devices arriving next month - devices which, if you believe Apple CEO Steve Jobs - are "better than netbooks."

On the flip side, Apple supporters echo the company's sentiments that "Flash is a CPU hog" and including support for the technology in Apple's mobile line-up would negatively impact battery life.

However, recent tests have put Flash up against HTML5, the new web markup language that eliminates the need for the Adobe plugin. The results of these tests show that this is not a simple black-and-white issue. Is Flash really a CPU hog? Yes, in some cases. But, surprisingly, not all the time. In fact, sometimes HTML5 actually performed worse.
Testing Flash and HTML5

Jan Ozer is an expert in video encoding technologies, has worked in digital video since 1990 and is the author of 13 books related to the subject. Recently, he put HTML5 up against Flash in a series of tests that pitted the two technologies against each other on both the Mac and PC and in different web browsers including Internet Explorer 8, Google Chrome, Apple Safari and Mozilla Firefox.

The results of the tests in their entirety are published here on StreamingLearningCenter.com. The summary in a nutshell? Flash isn't always a CPU hog, sometimes that honor goes to HTML5.

Some of the highlights of Ozer's findings are below, broken up into both Mac and Windows test results.
Mac Tests

* With Safari, HTML5 was the most efficient and consumed less CPU than Flash using only 12.39% CPU. With Flash 10.0, CPU utilization was at 37.41% and with Flash 10.1, it dropped to 32.07%
* With Google Chrome, Flash and HTML5 were both equally inefficient (both are around 50%)
* With Firefox, Flash was only slightly less efficient than in Safari, but better than in Chrome

Windows Tests

* Safari wouldn't play HTML5 videos, so there was no way to test that. However, Flash 10.0 used 23.22% CPU but Flash 10.1 only used 7.43% CPU
* Google Chrome was more efficient on Windows than Mac. Playback with Flash Player 10.0 was about 24% more efficient than HTML5, while Flash Player 10.1 was 58% more efficient than HTML5.
* On Firefox, Flash 10.1 dropped CPU utilization to 6% from 22% in Flash 10.0
* In IE8, Flash 10.0 used 22.41% CPU and Flash 10.1 used 14.62% CPU

Hardware Acceleration Key to Flash Performance

In analyzing the results of the tests, Ozer determined that the key to better Flash performance was dependent upon whether or not it could access hardware acceleration. This feature, launched in Flash 10.1, allows the plugin to use the graphics processing unit (GPU) on some computers to decode video. Depending on the video card and drivers, (NVIDIA, AMD/ATI and Intel offer products that support this), the video decoding process in Flash 10.1 can now work for all video playback, not just full-screen playback as was available in Flash 10.0.

According to Adobe, hardware acceleration is not supported under either Linux or Mac OS X, the latter because Mac OS X does not expose access to the required APIs. Adobe goes on to say "The Flash Player team will continue to evaluate adding hardware acceleration to Linux and Mac OS X in future releases."

Here's what this all means in layman's terms: Apple isn't allowing Flash to become more efficient on their Mac OS X/Safari platform (or their iPod/iPhone/iPad one, either) by not providing the access to the hardware it needs to reduce its CPU load. Adobe is waiting and watching to see if they do, but, as Ozer says "the ball is in Apple's court."

Will Apple budge? At this point, it's unlikely. In blocking Flash on Apple devices, the company can easily claim that it's simply not an efficient technology...and that's true for now, considering how it's set up. But if the company wanted to allow it and make it work, it seems reasonable to believe that they could. This is what leads some insiders to believe that the decision to block Flash is less of a technological one and more of a business-minded one. After all, if you could easily visit Hulu.com to stream TV shows and movies, then why would you need to buy them from the iTunes Store?

So while Flash's "CPU hogging" may be a contributing factor in Apple's decision to not support the technology on their mobile devices, that's probably not the only reason behind the block.

they've gotta have a plan c if this adobe snubbing doesn't work out. plan b is HTML5ers.

Can't do it. Not yet.

I have to see it. Use it first.

I'm going wait this one out for now.

Yeah, players this surprised me too. I really want one but I can wait.

Got a 32GB iPod Touch to hold me over.

:)

Wife wants to go to the store to check em out first.

<-- My 6 month old mini-me

XBL id: steelysteel
PSN id: steelysteel
http://www.last.fm/user/steelysteel/
http://www.twitter.com/steelysteel

I'll be there on April 3rd. Might take the morning off to check it out.

Not that I give a shit about CSI:Akron or How I Bored Your Mother or Survivor:Sharkjump, but it's a good sign of media content providers possibly budging towards iPad filling rather than staying stuborn on Flash-only formats.


Still not getting one for now...but I just moved a bit more towards "okay...one day...."