Just wanted to put that out there...
I see Soul shot ya getting down with Ol' Dirty lately...
RJCC been bangin that Hillary Duff.... (WTF?!?!?!)
Techsista on that Jaheim

I synced my collection from the front seat of my car, while in my DRIVEWAY!,because I forgot to get my latest NPR podcast before I headed out.

My headphones never get tangled..you wanna know why?? MAGNETS son...MAGNETS...

Zune desktop shits on iTunes...
Zune.net is pretty much that shit...

Yeah, anyone not up on Zune is pretty much in sleep mode.

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The new Zunes are nice tho. If I didn't get a 60 gig a few years back I would have gotten one.

And I really hope they give Apple some competition.

so true, healthy competition yields further product development.

16GB just don't work for me capacity wise.

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but I really only listened to like 20 GB of my 60. I haven't wanted for any song yet tho.

For an apples to apples comparison though (sucky pun) the 80GB Zune shits on the 80GB Ipod in all kinds of ways..
That's the point im basically trying to make.

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I'd feel like going backwards.

Zunes do seem pretty cool as far as the social element. Kinda like having a built in Last.fm.

They don't work with Macs, so it's kind of a moot point tho.

>They don't work with Macs, so it's kind of a moot point tho.

.

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My coworker came in flashing his lil joint the other day...he then proceed to show me all these "fancy" web tools he could use..
He walked away sad when i pulled out my WM6 XV6800 and proceeded to do everything he did but like 10 times faster. AND when I told him it was about $200 less than his shiney toy. AND he was even more hurt when the IT guy told him that it wasn't capable of pushing his email therefore he would have to rely on his slow ass Edge web connection to navigate to our online email server.
oh yeah AND since he can't use it for work, he can't expense it either lol...

sucker

yeah, that's kinda the point.

I had to use it for a few months, then I got a blackberry pearl, and I thank the gods every time I do anything on my phone.

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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=11&topic_id=119095&mesg_id=119095&listing_type=search

I always liked the zune...the capacity is what held me back. Always maintained that once they came out with an 80GB i was on it.

I wanna REPEAT ONE SONG and add files directly to the hard drive without
being forced to use some dumb ass software

*shakes fist at microsoft & zune heads who don't demand simple
improvements*

explode your dreams

www.myspace.com/graythehustler

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my cd player can do that.

Select the song.
Add to Quick List.
Push Repeat.
Done.

There's a little repeat icon on the iPhone, right next to the time bar (there's also a shuffle icon on the other side).

All you do is tap that to make the song repeat.

a large screen, large storage capacity, etc.
MS will likely adjust it in a future firmware update....yeah, its got that going for it too.

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You have to drill back to main menu, settings, Repeat All/Repeat Once/Repeat track...
so, the whole "can't repeat" argument is null


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Then we can go there. Matter of fact, i think a new "Rules of Engagement" post is in order. There is way too much apples to oranges comparisons going on here.

Iphone is a phone that maxes out at 16GB, not comparable to any Zune device or any other MP3 player for that matter, it's not in the same league or class.

I guess the Ipod Touch is technically in the same genre as any flash based MP3 device, so to campare it to flash based Zune or any other flash based MP3 player is ok.

The "Classic" ipod is in the same genre as the Zune 30GB & 80GB and any other hard drive based MP3 player....

So all of you folks talking iphone this and iphone that can just leave the room. Because as soon as I pull out a WM6 device, yalls shit is pretty much shut down anyway.


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>So all of you folks talking iphone this and iphone that can
>just leave the room. Because as soon as I pull out a WM6
>device, yalls shit is pretty much shut down anyway.
>

and boom, I'm on another song

referring to how my Samsung yp t8 works

you select repeat one

go to a folder play a song, tired of hearing it? click next

in any case, it nullifies the purpose of quick list, you have to empty
your quick list just to repeat one song, when you should be able to
select a setting, without that you have to refill your quick list
every time you wanna repeat a song

really tho, they should add it to whatever pops up when you click the D
pad while you're listening to a song

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and I'm gonna stop every 1:30 to repeat a Dilla instrumental?

nope, why don't you just admit, they should add the feature?

What I WOULD like to see is a dedicated button to shuffle all songs...i think i'd rather see that than repeat.


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you walking around w/ 30GB capacity, 80GB for folks w/ the new one, you
should be able to substitute some of that for a portable usb drive,

but no.

"yo, I got that new Dillagence mix cd. word? yeah it's on my Zune, lemme
just... (oh yeah, I'd have to install the zune software just to transfer
the damn files....)

um, go to this website and download it"

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NOPE!

gotta go through some software

why?

cause microsoft said so?

cmon, they need to open that sh*t up and stop playing

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....damn, why would anyone get a zune? ..you would have to be a real dumbass

especially when the desktop software works.
The whole reason people beef over lack of drag and drop is because they've been soured by itunes and various other crappy desktop interfaces.

...yet u still running ur mouth in this post, lol

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basically you just outta shit to say huh.


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It was the best of rhymes. It was the worst of rhymes. It was a Nas album.

i got ubuntu running on 4 computers here at the crib. i plug the ipod in and it works. i didn't even have to install any extra sofware to make it work.


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It was the best of rhymes. It was the worst of rhymes. It was a Nas album.

Dang, that's a lot of computers.

desktop
mediapc/fileserver
2 laptops (one isn't mine but it's in this household and it runs ubuntu)


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Like when you tried to shit on the blackberry before talking
about "My Sprint 37398279823743029870423 whatever can download
porn in Hi Def while I'm talking to my grandmother through a
wireless headpiece!!!!

Nigga, don't nobody give a fuck about that dumbass feature.


Don't nobody need to synk from they car.


Stop being insecure.


iPODs are better, fam.

> "My Sprint 37398279823743029870423 whatever can
>download
>porn in Hi Def while I'm talking to my grandmother through a
>wireless headpiece!!!!

You gotta admit thought, that's one hell of a feature. Maybe Sprint should include that in their marketing campaign.

>Like when you tried to shit on the blackberry before talking
>about "My Sprint 37398279823743029870423 whatever can
>download
>porn in Hi Def while I'm talking to my grandmother through a
>wireless headpiece!!!!

But yeah, my XV6800 DOES shit on your blackberry though.

>Nigga, don't nobody give a fuck about that dumbass feature.
Those that are stuck without it do.

>Don't nobody need to synk from they car.
Don't nobody need to use an MP3 player period

>Stop being insecure.
lol...yeah..ok

>iPODs are better, fam.
Sure thing...smh.

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>Nigga, don't nobody give a fuck about that dumbass feature.
>
>
>Don't nobody need to synk from they car.
>
>
>Stop being insecure.
>
>
>iPODs are better, fam.

true.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers. (c) Kno

.

I got the 1g yp t8, now discontinued, : (

it won't load up anymore

You might as well be carrying a Walkman.

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I only got the Zune cause the 30gb went on sale, plus I didn't think it
would prevent you from adding whatever files you wanted to the hard drive

that Samsung (2005) is serious tho'. voice recording, line-in, radio -recording, video, photo, custom equalizer AND you can repeat 1 song

Samsung does have some nice players though. I won't front.

i got an ipod but the battery crapped out. it's strictly a home stereo now. the samsung is my portable one.

the T9 holds me down. i usually rotate a few albums so i don't need the space. if i'm not listening to an album anymore i take it off and put it in my music folder on the computer. i hated having songs on my ipod that i never listen to. i never use shuffle so they're just sitting there for no reason.

i mainly wanted a smaller device to carry. it has great features that i actually use. i can delete files DIRECTLY from the device, drag and drop (i hate itunes), play video (small screen but crystal clear), great UI and menus, 30hr battery life, you can change the song speed (chipmunk fast or screw music slow), etc.

i think they shit on apple in a lot of areas. if they made a 10-30gig device i'd cop no question.

Yet Apple gets pretty much 98% of the love.
I don't get it.
I've gone back and forth on these boards for years, sometimes i've rode for Apple, sometimes not. Lately, not.
I have a little Sony flash player i use for the gym. NWS something or another..i got it off Woot one day. I think i posted about it here too. Love it! It has noise canceling headphones..ACTIVE noise canceling, it's small, has sports shuffle etc...thing Apple STILL hasnt gottten down with.

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they have issues too.

just use drag and drop and stop w/the software pimping. how did they fuck that up?

also, they should've made a touch screen model.

>they have issues too.
>
>just use drag and drop and stop w/the software pimping. how
>did they fuck that up?
>
>also, they should've made a touch screen model.

I don't get how it's software pimpin though. Most every MP3 player comes with it's own media management software. I'd feel pretty cheated if i purchased one that didn't.

I'm not down with touch screen.. Hell, my non touch screen gets greasy enough, can't imagine how bad it would be if it were a touch screen.
The D pad is touch sensitive, you drag your finger across and it changes tracks, or controls volume. If you want feedback, you can press it too.


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totally pointless for those of us who own mac, can't actually figure out why Microminisofty didn't include mac support.

My iPod is my iPhone and I'm happy with it but am curious about Zunes since I've never seen one yet. I don't even think it's out here in Sweden yet -- which is strange.

>totally pointless for those of us who own mac, can't actually
>figure out why Microminisofty didn't include mac support.
>
>My iPod is my iPhone and I'm happy with it but am curious
>about Zunes since I've never seen one yet. I don't even think
>it's out here in Sweden yet -- which is strange.

That is kinda sucky on MS' part for not making it Mac compatible. I do wonder if that is something they can remedy with a firmware update. Funny thing is, I got my wife a Nano for christmas and she got me a zune lol....


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having integrated stereo controls for my iPod in my whip is a HUGE plus.

there's no reason to get a Zune except for price.

I'm seeing the 80 GB Zune listed at $250....same as the 80 GB iPod.

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There is no reason to buy a Zune.

Sharing moments with underage strangers in public and bragging about magnets doesn't do much for me.

and my 160gb 605 say no thanks.

i'm sure they are sick of bearing that heavy load

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the 504 was a gift, the 605 I bought.
and as easy as they are and as familiar as I am wih archos, I'm willing to spend what it takes for what I want.

plus @ 379, the 605 wasn't that bad @ all.

That DVR functionality is nice!

instead of the ipod i got last fall.

Play playstation 1 games.............check
Play gameboy games...........check
Play NES games.................check
Surf the net.................check
Change themes/backgrounds.............check
Instant email access.................check
Use Google earth..........check
Play chess.......check
Weather updates...check
stock updates....check
use a keyboard...check
download directly from itunes via wifi...check
view photos....check
Read ebooks...........check
use dictionaries.......check

ohh and did I mention is also plays music


THE IPOD TOUCH IS THE SHIT !

>
>Play playstation 1 games.............check
>Play gameboy games...........check
>Play NES games.................check
>Surf the net.................check
>Change themes/backgrounds.............check
>Instant email access.................check
>Use Google earth..........check
>Play chess.......check
>Weather updates...check
>stock updates....check
>use a keyboard...check
>download directly from itunes via wifi...check
>view photos....check
>Read ebooks...........check
>use dictionaries.......check
>
>ohh and did I mention is also plays music
>
>
>THE IPOD TOUCH IS THE SHIT !

I'd respect you're enthusiasm much more if you at least had the iphone...
Although I don't advocate, I at least respect iphone owners. It's a sleek phone, once it gets 3G i'll stop hating on it so hard.

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>


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you making statements about something being too heavy, when it's actually lighter than a flash based device
I get it, you just hurt cause you been saving and scrounging pennies to cop an iphone, and now that you are $50 shy of your goal you realize its all been in vain...cheer up doggie...you got enough to cop a Zune

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.. till u get with the times .. understand u will always take an L with a zune ..no go to ur driveway skip ..u gotta sync up

MAC fanboy without a clue...

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...u see nobody rockin those shits ..be honest ..you got clowned up and down this post ..you STILL nervous about its flaws ...still coppin pleas ...time to man up and leave this post with your zune that nobody wants ..haha

>...u see nobody rockin those shits ..be honest ..you got
>clowned up and down this post ..you STILL nervous about its
>flaws ...still coppin pleas ...time to man up and leave this
>post with your zune that nobody wants ..haha

Saying random shit that didn't make any sense...off in your own little world riding for your lil imaginary heroes...i see you.
No shit i'm a fan, thus this post was created..
Nervous about a gadget??? Son, I been through more gadgets, and been up on more gadgets than you've ever known existed seeing as how you are too afraid to venture beyond the realm of Apple...this is a hobby for me. I got a good job and a good wife that affords me the leisure of copping gadgets at will and coming on these boards getting minions like you rilled up to the point of incoherency. Copping pleas about what?? I made a statement point blank..lol..

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...Windows sucks ...Zune sucks ...deal with it kid ..you cant win

if macs had every bit of the functionality that PCs had, everybody in the world would own one. Until that day comes, we'll just leave them to the retards, hipsters and people who think they're graphic designers because they know a thing or two about photoshop.

but thats why its so great because it is an ipod AND it has all those extra features. I don't need 80gb cause im not putting 80gb worth of music on my computer.

yet it still can't hold a lot of music

for me 8gb is plenty cause im not listening to 10,000 songs,cause I play CD's when im driving in my car, thats all I need, maybe not for y'all but im good

I synced from my kitchen sink *Daps*

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and therefor a dumbass.

The Zune or the 605 wifi will be my next DAP. Even though 605 wifi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> x1000>>>>>>>>>>>> Zune. I need something smaller that just plays music and has a large capacity but without all the DRM and syncing headache

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beats the ipod classic + itunes by a mile.

you mean the zune + zune software

like iTunes forces you to tether to an iPod, Zune runs with the Zune Software. They're essentially the same product with different interfaces, both with their positive and negative quirks

The social aspect of it puts it in a whole other category and level alone.

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if you make the folder of your windows media library the same as the folder the zune software automatically searches, you can basically use the windows media player to manage your music, which makes tweaking ID tags, a breeze (which was the only real issue i had with the zune software).

same shit, different toilet. All a matter of preference.

Since everyone jumping all over the place with pros and cons...
The most common cons i've heard mentioned are

-No drag and drop
.Name me one player that allows drag and drop that has a non cumbersome, muffled up, intuitive interface.
-No repeat
.Tell me how two clicks to add a song to a quick list and repeat is any different than drilling back to a main menu selecting repeat and then going back to the song
-Weight
.The Zune 80GB is the lightest hard drive based player out. Larger screen even.


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2 actually. And if I ever used a Zune on a mac, they'd revoke my apple membership. And it would deserve to be taken.

Next you gonna tell me Vista is better than Leopard? But that you downgraded back to XP, so XP is better than Leopard?

I had a dude at my job tell me that Explorer on XP can do everything iPhoto can do just as well as iPhoto, if not better. I'm done with y'all PC dudes.

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Thousands Wait Overnight At Microsoft Stores For Second Generation Zune
December 17, 2007 | Issue 43•51


NEW YORK—In a year that saw the release of such best-selling products as the Motorola RAZR 2 V8 and the wildly popular Casio XD-SW4800 handheld dictionary, no personal electronics product launch was more highly anticipated than the November 13 debut of the second-generation Microsoft Zune mp3 player.


Consumers eagerly line up outside New York City's famous 5th Avenue 24-hour Microsoft Store.
The sleek new Zune, whose record-breaking sales have made the Zune name synonymous with "mp3 player," was so sought-after that thousands formed long lines outside hip, minimalist Microsoft Stores across the country days before the device went on sale. In Midtown Manhattan, the hysteria reached such a fever pitch that some were willing to pay as much as $200 for a spot in line.

"How could you not want one?" said self-described "Microsoft fanatic" Maria Arkin, who, like many others scrambling to be among the first to get their hands on the new Zune, expressed disappointment upon learning that sales were limited to just two units per customer. "It's amazing. There's just nothing else like it on the market."

Arkin added, "Plus, it's small enough to fit in my pocket—right next to my cell phone!"

Even skeptics have found it difficult to deny the Zune's appeal. With its video capability, "squircle"-shaped control pad, Microsoft logo emblazoned on the back, and iconic black earbuds, it has become a must-have item for everyone from high-powered executives to trendy young scenesters. Many consumers consider owning the newest model of Zune to be the most essential status symbol of the past 10 years, hailing it as the hallmark fashion accessory of the so-called "Zune Generation."

"The second-generation Zune has it all," said Brian Lam, editor in chief of Gizmodo, a popular tech blog. "It's got a great design, and the cult of personality that the undeniably charismatic Bill Gates has created with his Microsoft product launches only adds to the Zune's desirability."

Though the Zune continues to dominate the world of personal electronics, technology experts believe it will quickly be overshadowed by the fall 2008 launch of the hotly anticipated new Texas Instruments TI-Nspire graphing calculator.

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Let's hug it out bitch
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I found this post interesting so I read up a bit on the Zune. Can you guys tell me if these issues still exist or if they’ve been handled by firmware updates?

-No EQ settings on the player.
Not TOO big of a deal, but still kinda sucks

-No gapless playback
Wow, that's pretty big.

-No foreign language support (songs with Asian characters show up as squares).
This would suck. I have a bunch of Japanese music with kanji (or is it katakana...?) characters

-Only 22 hours of audio playback compared to the iPod classic’s 45 (according to CNET’s review).
Not TOO big of a deal, but more battery life is always better.

-No Autoplaylists with the Zune software.
Oh, that would suck. I use those a lot.

-No rating of songs with the Zune software.
This would also suck, but without auto playlists, I guess it's pretty useless.

>I found this post interesting so I read up a bit on the Zune.
>Can you guys tell me if these issues still exist or if they’ve
>been handled by firmware updates?
>
>-No EQ settings on the player.
> Not TOO big of a deal, but still kinda sucks
True. To my ears, the fidelity and sound quality is better than my ipod was though. I never used the EQ on that though. The only player i've used EQ on is my little Sony.

>-No gapless playback
> Wow, that's pretty big.
I haven't confirmed this. How can I test it? I don't have any mixtapes.

>-No foreign language support (songs with Asian characters show
>up as squares).
> This would suck. I have a bunch of Japanese music with
>kanji (or is it katakana...?) characters

Funny you mention that. I had an import of Groove Theroy that I guess was japanese. The characters showed up on the Zune desktop software, but I think they did come up as squares on the actual Zune. I ended up retagging it so I dont remember now...i dont read japanese and all.

>-Only 22 hours of audio playback compared to the iPod
>classic’s 45 (according to CNET’s review).
> Not TOO big of a deal, but more battery life is always
>better.

With wifi off battery life increases. I'll have to look for the actual time though.

>-No Autoplaylists with the Zune software.
> Oh, that would suck. I use those a lot.

True.

>-No rating of songs with the Zune software.
> This would also suck, but without auto playlists, I guess
>it's pretty useless.
>

My understanding is that they removed the ratings with the update. Now you can assign it a Heart or Broken heart. Somehow thats supposed to be better than a star rating system that it used to have. Haven't played around with it much yet though. I do believe you can sort by heart or broken heart though.

You have to pick a DAP that suits your needs. Shit that isn't important to some people is extremely important to others, and vice versa. A few of the Zune's shortcomings are things I'm really used to with the iPod.


>>-No gapless playback
>> Wow, that's pretty big.
>I haven't confirmed this. How can I test it? I don't have any
>mixtapes.

On the Game Theory album by The Roots, False Media (track 2) and Game Theory (track 3) kinda melt into each other with no gap in the audio. Actually, Game Theory kinda has things like that all throughout...pauses would definitely take away form it.

On Moonlighting by Tanya Morgan, Paper Thin (track 3) and We Be (track for) do the same thing.

I can't think of anything off the top of my head that does it, but it's pretty common with hip-hop.

This is pretty big though, as a lot of albums are MADE not to have gaps. I can't imagine listening to Sound Bombing 2 with pauses in between tracks.

>>-No Autoplaylists with the Zune software.
>> Oh, that would suck. I use those a lot.
>
>True.

Ah, this is real? Yeah, no Zune for me, even if I get a PC (or install Windows on my Mac)

>This is pretty big though, as a lot of albums are MADE not to
>have gaps. I can't imagine listening to Sound Bombing 2 with
>pauses in between tracks.

>You have to pick a DAP that suits your needs. Shit that isn't
>important to some people is extremely important to others, and
>vice versa. A few of the Zune's shortcomings are things I'm
>really used to with the iPod.

But I agree with you overall. I own an ipod too. I rode hard for it too. Now i've encountered something I feel is superior. The Zune hasn't gotten proper shine around these parts lately. Especially since the update. That's the real reason for this post. I appreciate that some folks take a more rational approach to rebuttal.

>
>>>-No gapless playback
>>> Wow, that's pretty big.
>>I haven't confirmed this. How can I test it? I don't have
>any
>>mixtapes.
>
>On the Game Theory album by The Roots, False Media (track 2)
>and Game Theory (track 3) kinda melt into each other with no
>gap in the audio. Actually, Game Theory kinda has things like
>that all throughout...pauses would definitely take away form
>it.

Ok, tested it last night. Not sure if what i'm hearing is gapless or the way the CD was mastered. I recall ?uest talking about how he mastered it so that it would sound gapless no matter what media you were playing. The pause between tracks is not nearly as dramatic as it was on my ipod though.

>On Moonlighting by Tanya Morgan, Paper Thin (track 3) and We
>Be (track for) do the same thing.

I'll check those later.
>
>>>-No Autoplaylists with the Zune software.
>>> Oh, that would suck. I use those a lot.
>>
>>True.

Ah, this is real? Yeah, no Zune for me, even if I get a PC (or
>install Windows on my Mac)
>

Ok,I checked into it..I'm not a big playlist user... playlists work like this.. If you want to, you can simply use Zune desktop to sync only then you can manage all your tagging, playlists, etc in WMP11. The Zune reads from the storage folder of WMP and if there are playlists there, they will sync up.

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>Ok, tested it last night. Not sure if what i'm hearing is
>gapless or the way the CD was mastered. I recall ?uest talking
>about how he mastered it so that it would sound gapless no
>matter what media you were playing. The pause between tracks
>is not nearly as dramatic as it was on my ipod though.

I know exactly what he's talking about. There is an ever-so-slight pause inbetween track transitions on the Zune, so whereas during the transition of these two tracks there isn't a gap between the two songs, if you listen to it on the Zune you hear a slight gap.

It can be pretty annoying --- try listening to the transition between Nightworks and Arabian Knights off the first Soundbombing album and you'll notice that on the CD there isn't a pause at all between the transition, but on the Zune you'll hear a gap. It completely messes up the flow of the album because damn near the whole album transitions from track-to-track like that without a pause between songs.

swear I hear that like 20 times on that album

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You can't chase a marathon runner. The features That make the zune sexy: wifi beaming and whatever the fuck it does, but people like the standard, and it is hard out there for a pimp to replace the ipod. the only way that the zune will ever get to the level of the Ipod is if it does three things:

- Drop it's price point to beat Apple (160 gig zune for 250 or even three would change my mindset by far)

- Play all types of video and audio content (even protected apple files) consumers are fuckin tired of having all types of formats for music and video that they can only use on certain players You give me a zune screen with the apple store, then I would be happy)

- They have to beat apple to some quality idea. The issue with wifi is that it's cool, but few people have the zune, so i have few people to share with so the idea is worthless. Apple is making new moves every year, 30 to 60 to 80 to 160 gb Ipod video, The touch and the the iphone are giving microsoft fits. They just have to be first with the next innovation in this portable music game and ride it to glory. Until then I need to load up more music on my 160 so i am done.


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>You can't chase a marathon runner. The features That make the
>zune sexy: wifi beaming and whatever the fuck it does, but
>people like the standard, and it is hard out there for a pimp
>to replace the ipod. the only way that the zune will ever get
>to the level of the Ipod is if it does three things:
>
>- Drop it's price point to beat Apple (160 gig zune for 250 or
>even three would change my mindset by far)

>- Play all types of video and audio content (even protected
>apple files) consumers are fuckin tired of having all types of
>formats for music and video that they can only use on certain
>players You give me a zune screen with the apple store, then I
>would be happy)

Only the studios could make that happen. It's really not a fault of MS or Apple. It's the damn studios. It is annoying across the board.

>- They have to beat apple to some quality idea. The issue with
>wifi is that it's cool, but few people have the zune, so i
>have few people to share with so the idea is worthless. Apple
>is making new moves every year, 30 to 60 to 80 to 160 gb Ipod
>video, The touch and the the iphone are giving microsoft fits.
>They just have to be first with the next innovation in this
>portable music game and ride it to glory. Until then I need to
> load up more music on my 160 so i am done.

Yall aren't hearing me. With the newest firmware Wifi is more than just sharing tracks with other Zunes. It's already been opened to allow syncing. Now, lets talk firmware upgradability. What other company has taken the bold step of releasing a firmware upgrade to early adopters of the original player? What other company has committed to further development and feature roll out of not only their existing devices, but their future devices? The Zune is a device that can and will continue to be developed. I don't have to worry that with the next device release, my current one will be obsolete. How many ipods have you folks gone through because something newer and more feature packed was released? It's insane to think about. Yeah, Mac makes a good product, but mack is also abusing their customers by releasing newer and better product year after year forcing them to purchase new product to enjoy the newest features. Folks need to peep game...cause Apple is playing a lot folks..playin em HARD.


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I'd like to be able to still rock my sports talk when I get out of the car.

And HD radio should be beyond car stereos.

Maybe decent broadcast digital TV transmissions that don't rely on the Web.

Go all solid state drives on the next generation, and offer drive sizes that aren't exactly the same as the iPod (how about 100 or 200gb?)

Wireless modulation (to do away with needing plugs of any kind to hear in your car or on your home stereo)

And of course definitely get every O.E. and aftermarket car stereo manufacture on board about integrated control, as well as Mac compatibility (which would win more market share versus the Apple).

Doesn't have to compete with every "cute" feature Apple comes with, and really shouldn't IMO...it should do different things that make it stand out. While Microsoft can do anything it wants and compete with whoever, however; Zune the product should IMO focus on being the greatest bang for the buck when it comes to entertainment.

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http://www.zunescene.com/zune-divx/

must be capable somehow.

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Nice hardware. The Zune Desktop is horrendous. I heard that before buying, but I didn't hear that the Zune would work with WMP or Winamp or any other software. That's game over for me and the Zune.

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i hate puttin music on folks zune cuz i save stuff all over my network & have to jump through way 2 many hoops to put it on a zune.

Being that its a microsoft product & i use windows i didnt expect this level of difficulty, but i forgot, this is microsoft im talking about


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Damn. I don't have 80 GBs of music so I was planning to get a classic and using the other 50 GB for storing shit.

and tote around??
That's what i'm trying to figure out..
Most of my storage space is occupied by Music, Video and Photos...The Zune can handle them all just fine...what else are yall storing that you need multiple gigs of space?? and need it to be portable???? That an external hard drive can't accommodate more securely??

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you'd understand.

but Microsoft doesn't make products for the creative; they make products for the consumer.

yeah umm, remind me not to hire you for any of my companies needs...

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it's the same as putting a file on a zip or usb flash drive; you wouldnt do that either because why?

goes with me to the gym and various places in which it is subject to damage. I guess it falls into the category of separating work and play. I see where you are going with all of this, but it's mostly a question of work standards. I'd never show up at a clients office with their "Work" stored on my mp3 player, just doesn't seem professional to me.

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player; youre just asking for trouble. And the files I tote around on my iPod are basically just big ass Access and Excel files that I dump every other night; but I know artists that use it to carry highres files, Logic tracks and files, etc... and I think that's what the original point of all this was. If you're just porting and dumping from point a to b, i dont think there is much risk.

>player; youre just asking for trouble. And the files I tote
>around on my iPod are basically just big ass Access and Excel
>files that I dump every other night; but I know artists that
>use it to carry highres files, Logic tracks and files, etc...
>and I think that's what the original point of all this was. If
>you're just porting and dumping from point a to b, i dont
>think there is much risk.

Files like that I keep on my HTC Windows Mobile phone. 4GB microSD card works wonders for that. That's just how I get down though.
For reals though, cats taking this post waaaaaaay too seriously.. I know good and well that every device ain't for everybody. But I think everybody should be aware that there are options out there besides the iPod.

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but its requires either Ffking with windows settings or a download of a
program that does it for you automatically

next, to add files to the zune directly, you have to begin a sync
process, and then shut down zune.exe during the sync, this leaves the
zune "open"


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and if you upgrade, make sure to take your hack files off the zune 1st,
I lost some good pr0n that way : (

and it's pretty dope. The Zune isn't as bad as people think. If your looking for an alternative to an ipod cop one. I can't understand some of this blind hate. It's like they have stock in Apple or have one for status reasons. I think competition is good. I think any portable device that plays music and video is great though. All MP3 players are the sh!t IMO. :) Over the years I've had 3 different types of players and enjoyed them all.

I'm glade to see you can form an identity as an extraordinarly intelligent individual at an affordable price, sir.

Capitalism has served you well!

I on the other hand most likely fit into your 'retarded' faction of society for owning one I-pod I traded a twenty sack for to some kid who jacked it.

Again, enjoy your elevated sense of self worth, you earned it.

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If I had to chose between an 80 gb Ipod and an 80gb Zune can you tell me the pros of having a zune without the snark or outright hate for the ipod? I might get one or the another in the next few days. Thanks.

You have any specific questions I could start there maybe?

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Other than having FM radio what does the Zune have over the Ipod? If I don't have a wireless connection at home what good is the sync feature for me? Is it easy to convert alot of different type of video files on it?

Why is better than an IPod?

I bought my girl a Ipod Nano for Christmas and I see why their so popular but I don't what to but up the cash for an 80GB version if something else out on the market is vastly better. To sum all of this up...what makes it so great? Thanks.

>Other than having FM radio what does the Zune have over the
>Ipod? If I don't have a wireless connection at home what good
>is the sync feature for me? Is it easy to convert alot of
>different type of video files on it?

If you dont have a wireless network, you won't get much use outta the wireless sync feature right now. I haven't tried to convert video files on it yet. I can't imagine it's any more difficult or any easier than the iPod though. There are other players (such as Archos) that can probably handle video conversion and compatibility waaaay better than both Zune and Ipod.

>Why is better than an IPod?
See my responses here and in the inbox I sent you.

>I bought my girl a Ipod Nano for Christmas and I see why their
>so popular but I don't what to but up the cash for an 80GB
>version if something else out on the market is vastly better.
>To sum all of this up...what makes it so great? Thanks.

I bought my wife a Nano for Christmas too. She's a runner and that Nike+ interface is pretty much the greatest most useful workout feature i've seen on an MP3 player to date. The Nano shuts the flash based Zunes down no doubt just for that feature alone. So yeah, if you talking Nano's then get the Nano over the 4GB & 8GB flash based Zunes. Real talk. Now if you talking 80GB ipod vs 80GB Zune, then as i've listed here, I feel like the Zune is a better device for all the reasons I've stated in here. They are both the same price, so price won't be a factor. It all boils down to interface, features, look and feel.

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Thanks for all the information. I did not receive your inbox so please resend when you get a chance. Also, One more question I forgot to ask. Does the Zune do anything special with the XBOX 360?

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So thats a plus for folks that dont have their 360's networked with their computers. Plug in the Zune, and it will play the videos, songs, etc. Will the ipod videos play on the 360? im not sure i only had the ipod photo.


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what the hell?

So every time I want the music to stop long enough to order a coffee, I have to shut the whole thing down, and then when I restart, I have to choose "Music" and then "Playlist" and then "Quicklist" and then "Play All" to get back to where I was?

Oh, I don't like this at ALL.


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It pauses. And if you put it in your pocket, you dont have to worry about it starting because the squircle is touch sensitive to your finger only.

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well, all right then

lol

I just bought it yesterday & got it working today, and was completely lost.

But the quicklist is always song-based, right? So if I add three albums and then decide to take one away, I have to do it song by song?


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>well, all right then
>
>lol
>
>I just bought it yesterday & got it working today, and was
>completely lost.
>
>But the quicklist is always song-based, right? So if I add
>three albums and then decide to take one away, I have to do it
>song by song?
>
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Let me play with that. Do you mean if you add 3 albums you can't remove a whole album from the quicklist? Okay i gotcha...let me check

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The zen jukebox is an older technology, but it does sort "selected music" (i.e., quicklist) according to how you added it. and you can remove stuff from your quicklist individually or in groups. Plus if you like your quicklist you can save it as a playlist on your device, without having to use your computer.


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lol...i guess you can't miss what you never had.
Do you find yourself making playlists on the go very often? I guess I don't because I have just waay too much music on here to sort through and make one, unless i just bought a few new albums or something.
Did you get the 80GB/ 30GB or the flash based one?


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What happens is that I get a craving for a certain group of, say, albums, and I put them all on my "quicklist" and then I end up saving it as a playlist so that I don't have to put it all back together later. Then I go to the gym and put on a different playlist, one that I figured out (on the go) for the gym.

Actually, when I think of it, the vast majority of my playlists were made on the device and not on the computer. The only exceptions to that are the playlists that are actually the tracks that I burned to cd's for friends.

I'm way way more device-oriented than computer-oriented. I have a feeling that the choices made by Microsoft in designing this item were made in large part with marketing in mind. If you have to go to the proprietary website in order to sort through your music, you'll buy from them or leave your footprints here and there, you know what I mean.

Creative's software is not web-based, and I like that.


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>What happens is that I get a craving for a certain group of,
>say, albums, and I put them all on my "quicklist" and then I
>end up saving it as a playlist so that I don't have to put it
>all back together later. Then I go to the gym and put on a
>different playlist, one that I figured out (on the go) for the
>gym.

>Actually, when I think of it, the vast majority of my
>playlists were made on the device and not on the computer.
>The only exceptions to that are the playlists that are
>actually the tracks that I burned to cd's for friends.

I guess i'm more desktop oriented. And the whole idea of trying to created playlists from well over 10,000 songs while on the go is just mind boggling to me lol..i'd go nuts!


>I'm way way more device-oriented than computer-oriented. I
>have a feeling that the choices made by Microsoft in designing
>this item were made in large part with marketing in mind. If
>you have to go to the proprietary website in order to sort
>through your music, you'll buy from them or leave your
>footprints here and there, you know what I mean.
>
>Creative's software is not web-based, and I like that.

Nah, I don't think Microsoft is out for marketing as much as they are trying to drive and promote Zune as a socially driven device. I'd put Apple more in the marketing camp than the Zune. I'm not sure if you've had a chance to sort through the Zune desktop software enough yet. It is in no way a website driven software. The only website portion is related to the Social. All the track/music/video organization and sorting is all done through the desktop software. Proprietary yes, but so is just about every other mp3 player software.

I know you keep saying that, but I mean, whatever.

I'm currently working with about 6,000 and I was able to do it just fine.




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don't forget the marketplace.

I think if you compare Zune and iPod, you're probably at parity.

But Zune to creative?

I would have stayed with Creative if they'd made one big enough.

You, on the other hand, probably don't care how much space is on your device, because you never look through it all except on your desktop.


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This was circa 1999. It was silver and only had 128mb of memory lol. I STILL have it too. And it is one of the best sounding mp3 players i've ever owned. I am familiar with the Creative desktop. In fact more than 70% of my mp3 collection was tagged using their desktop software. So yeah, i'm a fan of Creative's products.
But hold tight, you never know, the playlist options might very well be modified with the next firmware release for the Zune.
So, do you regret your purchase?

I look through the music on my device, but generally I use it while driving, so I either select by genre or album and i play in shuffle mode. Or I just shuffle all songs and don't touch it for a week. But i've never been big on playlists, so yeah, I can't really call it one way or another on that angle. Since you are big on them, i'll take your word on it.

For one 90 day period, I had a Zen Micro. On the 91st day, it stopped working (of course it had a 90 day warranty). I still vaguely miss a couple of the features that it had that my zen jukebox didn't have. So there will probably always be a little regret for the features from the jukebox that aren't on the zune.

I've found things I like a lot, though, like the ability to link to an artist on the device from a song that's currently playing.

Do you know of a way, other than by just letting the player reset itself, to go immediately to what's playing?

Let's say you've got the device on shuffle all songs and you're fooling around on it adding stuff to a quick list, and a new song comes on in the shuffle and you go, "what is this?" What's the *fastest* way to find out what is now playing on your device?

On the jukebox, from the home page there are links to "selected music" (quicklist) and "now playing".




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That should always take you back to the Now Playing screen.
Oh I totally forgot about the Go To Artist button. i get a ton of use outta that when im playing my whole collection on shuffle.

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I thought it was like the "back" button on the toolbar on my computer?


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Depending on how far away I get from the Now Playing screen it might take a couple of presses, but ultimately it cycles back to the Now Playing/ Current Playing track.

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Or the little button on the left with the left pointing arrow in it?
I turn my Zune on, go to a song and start playing..
Then I push the squircle and go back up to the main menu while the song is still playing...I fool around with some more menus and now i'm knee deep into looking at photos...A new song comes on and if i'm still looking at photo's I have to push the arrow button....ahhh i see.
In pics i have to push End Slideshow, wait about 5 seconds and then it goes back to the Now Playing screen .. LOL...HOW do you discover this stuff!?! LOL

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Pushing left on the touch pad takes me to the immediately preceding whatever I'm looking at, artist, song, album, genre. It doesn't take me to now playing.

Sorry to keep using you like a user guide lol.


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Yeah, i think the only way is to wait the few seconds for it to go back to Now Playing automatically. Did you get to check out that link with the tutorial?

>The zen jukebox is an older technology, but it does sort
>"selected music" (i.e., quicklist) according to how you added
>it. and you can remove stuff from your quicklist individually
>or in groups. Plus if you like your quicklist you can save it
>as a playlist on your device, without having to use your
>computer.

concept of how 98% of current mp3 players work..

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On the Zune, you're scrolling through the whole thing. Granted, those letters in the margin make it a little easier, but still, I want the "Find" option, where I can type in the name I'm looking for, or even just the first three letters.

I too have a lot of music on my device.


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I can do it on my phone, but it has a keyboard.

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and the iPod Nano (2nd Gen).

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http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304338

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http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/09/10/review_apples_new_ipod_nano_is_a_5g_video_ipod_in_a_nano_thin_shell.html&page=2

"A new Search function works slightly different than the previous one introduced in last year's 5.5G iPod. The Search field lets you enter items by letter using the clickwheel, and refined results popup as letters are entered. At any time, a click drops you into the search results, with list both albums and songs, as well as videos. It might take a moment to realize that entered letters can be deleted with a back click. Letters are entered by spinning the clickwheel and clicking on the letter. There's no way to search for numbers, so if you were looking for Feist's "1234," you're out of luck. There's also no way to enter a space.

However, since you are searching your own limited amount of content, you can probably manage to find what you're looking for with just a letter or two; even two letters breaks down a couple thousand items into a few dozen results to scan through. As with the 5G iPods, alphabetical letters pop up as you rapidly run though listings, making it easy to find needles in the 8 GB haystack even without performing a search. "

I'd probably want to drop kick my ipod if I had to use search like that. The click wheel is far too sensitive for that mess.


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Works great on my Nano.

I imagine that the idea is just that you are adding a few songs that you want to hear on a short trip/commute or something.

join my social :) ..... that sounds so lame..
http://social.zune.net/member/fluidj

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How do I resolve the issue of albums reading as "various artists"? This is true in really just way the fuck too many cases. I'm okay with the idea that the album gets listed repeatedly for every time the artist listing has a slight change (like NaS, NaS ft. Lauryn Hill, NaS ft. ....) even though I don't like it, but what the hell is going on that some do that and some just dump into "various artists"?

Also, aren't you the one who told me that it could create auto playlists for you, like even creating lists of music you listen to most frequently at specific times of day?

I trusted you, man.


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>How do I resolve the issue of albums reading as "various
>artists"? This is true in really just way the fuck too many
>cases. I'm okay with the idea that the album gets listed
>repeatedly for every time the artist listing has a slight
>change (like NaS, NaS ft. Lauryn Hill, NaS ft. ....) even
>though I don't like it, but what the hell is going on that
>some do that and some just dump into "various artists"?
>
>Also, aren't you the one who told me that it could create auto
>playlists for you, like even creating lists of music you
>listen to most frequently at specific times of day?
>
>I trusted you, man.

That ties back to Gracenote and the various databases that MP3 Tagging software uses to retrieve artist/album information when you rip a CD. Even when you get tracks from other people they could be tagged improperly from jump. The best way i've found to remedy it is the manage my tags manually. I use Windows Media Player for that most of the time. I've heard other folks mention other programs that do a better job at album tagging. What I think i'm finding with the Zune is that some artists show up as both Various Artist AND within the actual artists catagory. Give me some specific albums and i'll see if I have them and they show up as Various on my Zune.

Nah, that wasn't me that told you about auto playlists though. Remember, i'm not big on playlists lol. I do recall that the Windows Media Player 11 has some sort of Auto Playlist function built into though.

don't put ALL your trust into me, i'm just a man lol....


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he's got ONE track with Heidi Klum and the whole thing shows up under Various Artists

Quality by Talib Kweli


In both instances, the album is not listed under the artist. Only under Various Artists.

Dude, this sucks.

I'm used to being able to change all the information on a song or album manually in the creative software. Are you saying that I'm pretty much screwed here? I HAVE TO accept the Gracenote tags?

Oh that sucks.


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>he's got ONE track with Heidi Klum and the whole thing shows
>up under Various Artists
>
>Quality by Talib Kweli
>
>In both instances, the album is not listed under the artist.
>Only under Various Artists.
>
>Dude, this sucks.
>
>I'm used to being able to change all the information on a song
>or album manually in the creative software. Are you saying
>that I'm pretty much screwed here? I HAVE TO accept the
>Gracenote tags?
>

Quality is under Talib Kweli and not under Various Artists on my Zune.
Yeah, funny you mention that, I used to use the Creative software to change my tags when I had an ipod too.

You're not stuck with the gracenote settings though. There is a setting within the Zune desktop software that's something to the effect of "Update Artist Information Automatically" or something like that. You need to uncheck that box. You want to prevent Zune desktop from updating your artist information and tags. I'm at work so I don't have the software installed on this computer. I'll verify the setting when I get home though. But yeah, Gracenote SUCKS. I've never been happy with any of the automatic tagging databases. They put stuff in the wrong Genre all the time.

The short of it though is that MS didn't incorporate a good way to edit tags in the Zune desktop software...yet. I use Windows Media Player 11 to rip CDS and manage my MP3 tags manually. I usually let Gracenote fill in the basic stuff, then I go in and override and revise the stuff that it messed up. Typically it's genre and the whole Various Artists thing. Hope that helps.

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"automatically update album art and media information" even though I had it set to only replace missing information (I *like* the album art). It's kind of messed up if I have to choose between having the album covers and having it sort properly.

I have to tell you that I totally don't understand you on the Windows Media Explorers thing.

Also, all of my cds were ripped using the creative technology and they were all tagged to my satisfaction. And they were all imported as is from my hard drive.


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>"automatically update album art and media information" even
>though I had it set to only replace missing information (I
>*like* the album art). It's kind of messed up if I have to
>choose between having the album covers and having it sort
>properly.
>
>I have to tell you that I totally don't understand you on the
>Windows Media Explorers thing.
>
>Also, all of my cds were ripped using the creative technology
>and they were all tagged to my satisfaction. And they were
>all imported as is from my hard drive.

>Grrr (c) Tatiana

That's the setting I have. Make sure the "Replace All Media Information" box is unchecked.

Sorry for the confusion. What I'm referring to is Windows Media Player. The software that typically automatically opens whenever you play any music. I think they are on Version 10 or 11 now. Yeah, version 11 is for Vista only I think. Check out this tutorial, it breaks it down better than I can
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/knowledgecenter/howto/AlbumInfo_how_to.aspx
That should give you a good basis on the ins and outs of tagging your songs. Creative, Itunes, Media Player etc. all use the same database to automatically identify your music. What Creative did better was provide you with a really simple interface for altering the media tags and artist information. You could very well continue to use the Creative desktop to tag your music and everything.

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>The short of it though is that MS didn't incorporate a good
>way to edit tags in the Zune desktop software...yet.

Geez. Sorry to say, fam, but I don't really see why you'd want a Zune and not an iPod. Not from this post at least...

-Gapless playback
-iTunes lets you edit the fuck outta your tags
-More variety in the lineup (bigger hard drives, smaller devices, phone+DAP devices, etc.)
-More accessories work with it (you could just buy those fancy magnet headphones)
-Able to be used as a portable hard drive
-Works with Windows & Macs
-Rentals from iTunes store
-Ability to search through songs
-EQ

>
>>The short of it though is that MS didn't incorporate a good
>>way to edit tags in the Zune desktop software...yet.
>
>Geez. Sorry to say, fam, but I don't really see why you'd want
>a Zune and not an iPod. Not from this post at least...
>
>-Gapless playback

I don't do mixtapes, and I never noticed gaps, not that anal.

>-iTunes lets you edit the fuck outta your tags

Just like WMP but WMP lets you do more edits than itunes.

>-More variety in the lineup (bigger hard drives, smaller
>devices, phone+DAP devices, etc.)

Who cares about lineup, I got a real phone for business and the Zune handles my capacity issues and the size is just right. Nano is cool for my wife, but too dainty for me.

>-More accessories work with it (you could just buy those fancy
>magnet headphones)

Ultimately the device is most important. I got one case, a line out cable, a screen protector, and excellent headphones stock. I'm good. Apple continues to line the pockets of various lil manufactures to grab all yalls loot. Yall better peep game.

>-Able to be used as a portable hard drive

Can be done with a Zune.

>-Works with Windows & Macs

Fuck a Mac. What Mac head would be interested in a Non-Mac product??

>-Rentals from iTunes store

I have a 360. And a Windows Media Center PC. I BEEN renting shit online.

>-Ability to search through songs

Zune searches through songs faster, smoother, and with more ease than the ipod. Try it, you'll see.

>-EQ

If the device has good fidelity, and good hardware(ie. headphones) out he box, then EQ is just a novelty.



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>>-Gapless playback
>
>I don't do mixtapes, and I never noticed gaps, not that anal.

Game Theory much? Besides that, a *LOT* of albums are gapless. I'm pretty sure that album where you play it backwards to the Wizard of Oz is gapless too (some famous rock album that I can't remember the name of...RJ or Bearfield probably know what I mean with their rock lovin asses)

>>-iTunes lets you edit the fuck outta your tags
>
>Just like WMP but WMP lets you do more edits than itunes.

How does WMP let you do more edits?

>>-More variety in the lineup (bigger hard drives, smaller
>>devices, phone+DAP devices, etc.)

>Who cares about lineup, I got a real phone for business and
>the Zune handles my capacity issues and the size is just
>right. Nano is cool for my wife, but too dainty for me.

The millions of people who buy iPods.

>>-More accessories work with it (you could just buy those
>fancy
>>magnet headphones)
>
>Ultimately the device is most important. I got one case, a
>line out cable, a screen protector, and excellent headphones
>stock. I'm good. Apple continues to line the pockets of
>various lil manufactures to grab all yalls loot. Yall better
>peep game.

Ok, that's one example. There's a shitload of different devices that can expand the capabilities of the iPod (transfer pictures from a digital camera to the iPod, live recording, etc.)

>>-Able to be used as a portable hard drive
>
>Can be done with a Zune.

You have to hack it. Fuck and that.

>>-Works with Windows & Macs
>
>Fuck a Mac. What Mac head would be interested in a Non-Mac
>product??

Most people are fanboys like that. If Zune had the features I wanted and worked on my Mac, I wouldn't care if MS made it or not. Hell, I waited overnight in the rain for an M$ product (360)

>>-Rentals from iTunes store
>
>I have a 360. And a Windows Media Center PC. I BEEN renting
>shit online.

You can put those on Zune?

>>-Ability to search through songs
>
>Zune searches through songs faster, smoother, and with more
>ease than the ipod. Try it, you'll see.

No, not scroll through songs. The search feature Ninja Turtle Man was talking about.

>>-EQ
>
>If the device has good fidelity, and good hardware(ie.
>headphones) out he box, then EQ is just a novelty.

>>>-Gapless playback
>>
>>I don't do mixtapes, and I never noticed gaps, not that
>anal.
>
>Game Theory much? Besides that, a *LOT* of albums are gapless.
>I'm pretty sure that album where you play it backwards to the
>Wizard of Oz is gapless too (some famous rock album that I
>can't remember the name of...RJ or Bearfield probably know
>what I mean with their rock lovin asses)

Honestly, not much at all since it first came out lol... Like I said though, it ain't really an issue for me. I totally understand that a lot of folks are hung up on that, I ain't knocking them for being dumbasses about something so insignificant. The gap isn't that pronounced on Zunes, point blank. It ain't gapless, but it ain't as big of a deal as it was on the ipod before gapless playback was added.

>>>-iTunes lets you edit the fuck outta your tags
>>
>>Just like WMP but WMP lets you do more edits than itunes.
>
>How does WMP let you do more edits?

Advanced Tag Editing. I haven't updated my iTunes in ages, so if they now have better tagging capabilities, good for them, about time.

>>>-More variety in the lineup (bigger hard drives, smaller
>>>devices, phone+DAP devices, etc.)
>
>>Who cares about lineup, I got a real phone for business and
>>the Zune handles my capacity issues and the size is just
>>right. Nano is cool for my wife, but too dainty for me.
>
>The millions of people who buy iPods.

Senseless consumers, more concerned about having the latest Mac device more than anything else. I've already touched on this though. Millions of customers doesn't necessarily = better product. Janey even owned an ipod before and took that shit back...lol...

>>>-More accessories work with it (you could just buy those
>>fancy
>>>magnet headphones)
>>
>>Ultimately the device is most important. I got one case, a
>>line out cable, a screen protector, and excellent headphones
>>stock. I'm good. Apple continues to line the pockets of
>>various lil manufactures to grab all yalls loot. Yall better
>>peep game.
>
>Ok, that's one example. There's a shitload of different
>devices that can expand the capabilities of the iPod (transfer
>pictures from a digital camera to the iPod, live recording,
>etc.)

Dude, that's my whole point. Why do I need to transfer pics from my camera to my media player?? I got a 4gb SD Card on my camera son! When will I every NOT be close enough to a computer to get them pics off the SD card and transfer them to my Zune if I need them on there? That is a device that really had no point of existance. Live recording?? REAL musicians use professional equipment. Ipod is not professional equipment. I mean, i see your point, but what it boils down to is that 99.9% of those add-ons are useless junk designed to take your loot. Peep game dawg. Peep.

>>>-Able to be used as a portable hard drive
>>
>>Can be done with a Zune.
>
>You have to hack it. Fuck and that.

I don't have to hack it, i just have to transfer it through Windows Explorer instead of the Zune desktop software. Again, I touched the whole portable hard drive stuff above somewhere.

>>>-Works with Windows & Macs
>>
>>Fuck a Mac. What Mac head would be interested in a Non-Mac
>>product??
>
>Most people are fanboys like that. If Zune had the features I
>wanted and worked on my Mac, I wouldn't care if MS made it or
>not. Hell, I waited overnight in the rain for an M$ product
>(360)

If i'm not mistaken, the whole term Fanboy is a derivative of mac fanaticism no? MS already straight said they are not interested in Mac heads with the Zune. The Zune is for folks that well, aren't full Mac heads. I dig mac products. But I dig MS products a little more. Plain and simple...so yeah, MS fanboy..i'll be that.

>>>-Rentals from iTunes store
>>
>>I have a 360. And a Windows Media Center PC. I BEEN renting
>>shit online.
>
>You can put those on Zune?

Fuck I want to watch a HD movie on my Zune for?? Within 24 hours???? If my attention span won't allow me to download a movie, sit my ass on my couch and watch it then and there...then I got other issues to deal with. That's a dumb gimmic. Who the hell starts watching a movie, in the comfort of their own home, all booed up, and then 45 mins in decides "Shit, this would be WAAAAY more enjoyable to watch in the pissy ass subway on my lil ass ipod screen while looking over my shoulder so I don't get jacked." C'mon dawg...that feature is nails... Movies I own and rip can indeed be played on my Zune though.

>>>-Ability to search through songs
>>
>>Zune searches through songs faster, smoother, and with more
>>ease than the ipod. Try it, you'll see.
>
>No, not scroll through songs. The search feature Ninja Turtle
>Man was talking about.
>
>>>-EQ
>>
>>If the device has good fidelity, and good hardware(ie.
>>headphones) out he box, then EQ is just a novelty.
>
>


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>>>-Ability to search through songs
>>
>>Zune searches through songs faster, smoother, and with more
>>ease than the ipod. Try it, you'll see.
>
>No, not scroll through songs. The search feature Ninja Turtle
>Man was talking about.

Man, who want's THAT shit? By the time i drill down to a menu to finally start "typing" the artists name, coulda zipped to the artists and selected all their albums on the Zune. That feature is nails compared to the way Zune scrolls through your music just by wiping your finger across.

>>>-EQ
>>
>>If the device has good fidelity, and good hardware(ie.
>>headphones) out he box, then EQ is just a novelty.
>
>


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I have fewer songs than you, but it was still faster and easier for me to search by name.

Not being able to scroll in a circle is a drag, too. If I want something off Wooden Leather, I scroll all the way down. On my jukebox, if I wanted something off 8 Diagrams, I would just scroll down a little further and the list would restart.

On the Zune, I go all the way back up to the top. Makes me dizzy.

The features are different. There are definitely some nice things that I didn't have before. But they still feel like unnecessary extras (Video? Pictures? That screen is too small for my old eyes. Radio? Who needs a radio? lol), and the things I'm missing feel like necessities.




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>I have fewer songs than you, but it was still faster and
>easier for me to search by name.
>
>Not being able to scroll in a circle is a drag, too. If I
>want something off Wooden Leather, I scroll all the way down.
>On my jukebox, if I wanted something off 8 Diagrams, I would
>just scroll down a little further and the list would restart.
>
>On the Zune, I go all the way back up to the top. Makes me
>dizzy.
>
>The features are different. There are definitely some nice
>things that I didn't have before. But they still feel like
>unnecessary extras (Video? Pictures? That screen is too small
>for my old eyes. Radio? Who needs a radio? lol), and the
>things I'm missing feel like necessities.

I guess it's more or less personal preference. I'm waay faster searching through songs on my Zune than I was on my Ipod. Mainly because I can just flick it and the list continues to scroll depending on how fast I flick it. (you did know you could do this right?) My thumbs used to get hella tired and annoyed doing that circle mess on the Ipod.
Radio is for the Gym, tuning in to the TV's.
Pics, I only use for novelty honestly.
Video..i use it for podcasts. NBC and various other news podcasts.


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>Game Theory much? Besides that, a *LOT* of albums are gapless.
>I'm pretty sure that album where you play it backwards to the
>Wizard of Oz is gapless too (some famous rock album that I
>can't remember the name of...RJ or Bearfield probably know
>what I mean with their rock lovin asses)

the album is pink floyd's 'dark side of the moon' and you don't play it backwards. playing 'famous rock albums' backwards nets you satanic messages. everyone knows that

are you on last.fm? if you are, add me: http://www.last.fm/user/bearfield/

That album is gapless though, right?

I remember some famous rock album being the big talking point when they came out with gapless playback.

Abbey Road (Most of the the 2nd side anyway), Sgt. Pepper's (That might be the one yer thinking of if it isn't DSOTM) and many others lol

>>-Works with Windows & Macs
>
>Fuck a Mac. What Mac head would be interested in a Non-Mac
>product??

Hahahahahahahahaa

can't rely on a non CD ROM, 13.3" screen having notebook as a main computer....c'mon playa.

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I have two versions of The One, by Cee-Lo, ft Jazzee Pha & TI

One is on Closet Freak
The other is on Cee Lo Green Is The Soul Machine.

Closet Freak is clean.
Cee Lo Green... is explicit.

On my desktop, in I-Tunes, when I open the albums separately I can see both versions. I click on properties & see that they are indeed under different filenames.

However, when I search ALL songs, only one version shows up. And yeah, it's the clean version otherwise I wouldn't care or maybe even have noticed.

This despite the fact that I inadvertently uploaded Get Back by Little Brother twice and all the songs on both copies show up in the All Songs list.

WHAT THE HELL?


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I can't get the Zune desktop or device to recognize the second copy.




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Is that either the track is in a format that Zune can't read or that its a protected file or that it's tagged wrong. I'll mess around tonight and see if i can replicate it.

both were ripped using creative software and both showed up on my jukebox

and the rest of the songs on the cd are on the zune.

I want my swear words!


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I got nothing :( sorry.

I saved the version that I wanted to a playlist. So now I can access it using that method. But frankly, I consider that a pretty wack resolution. And it really makes me wonder what ELSE isn't showing up. Evidently I have to keep my creative software loaded until all this is resolved.

And I still don't know how to mess with tags on zune. I mean, if I had the shit tagged properly on creative, and it came to zune wrong, then how is transferring all the data to windows media player, retagging it, and syncing to zune going to change anything?


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That you clear your library from Zune. Then check your tags. Then before you sync your library back into Zune & Zune desktop, make sure that the Update album information automatically box isn't checked.
I'm wondering if that was checked by default and the Zune took it upon itself to retag everything as it saw fit?

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I unchecked the box that said update everything and checked the box that said just add missing info. I thought that would be the way to get the album art without getting any tags. Guess not.


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my tags were screwy too.

http://a-simian-mind.blogspot.com/2007/11/getting-artists-to-show-up-correctly-in.html

Yeah it's extra work, but I tried it and WOW! My tags were waaaaay screwed up.

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-A monkey is chased by a hyena and you cannot tell the laughter from the screams.

-Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there's gas in the

I will admit that I'm irritated that I have to go back through so much older stuff to fix something that shouldn't have been an issue.

But also I should say that the longer I use the zune, the happier I am with it.

One of my biggest issues was with the whole quicklist thing. That stems from the fact that the technology I was used to used a "selected music" field that I thought was the same as "quicklist." So I thought that if I switched from my quicklist to a different playlist or a separate album or song or whatever, I would lose the quicklist. That not being the case, I've calmed down a lot.

.:-)


~ ~ ~

Grrr (c) Tatiana

to correct that

I hope I hope I hope

~ ~ ~

Grrr (c) Tatiana

software. Supposed to address some of these bugs. Haven't had a chance to mess with yet since i'm stuck outta town for work for the week.

sig below:
-..Some say the price of holdin heat is often too high, you either be in a coffin or you be the new guy...


-A monkey is chased by a hyena and you cannot tell the laughter from the screams.

-Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there's gas in the

check zuneboards.com for general helps

and for various artists, "ALBUM ARTIST" tag is the key to show it as one cd

people have their preferences, leave it as that

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-..Some say the price of holdin heat is often too high, you either be in a coffin or you be the new guy...


-A monkey is chased by a hyena and you cannot tell the laughter from the screams.

-Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there's gas in the

Still doing some research on this and one question I have is about the Zune software compared to Itunes. I keep reading about how Zune software slows down your pc and is not reliable. I know Itunes is not the greatest but what's the verdict on the Zune software?

iTunes persistantly annoyed me with it's resource hogging ways. Zune desktop seems to affect performance in the same way that Windows Media Player 10 does. Little to no adverse affects for me. Where did you read about that issue?

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-..Some say the price of holdin heat is often too high, you either be in a coffin or you be the new guy...


-A monkey is chased by a hyena and you cannot tell the laughter from the screams.

-Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there's gas in the

I got the information from various sites that sell the Zune like amazon.com, bestbuy.com, etc. Also CNET.com and other sites had people having the same issues with the software. It's down to the wire and I just want to make sure I'm making the right choice. I also did not receive your inbox or email that you send so any extra info can help out. Thanks alot for answering my questions.

The Zune desktop software was updated around Thanksgiving I believe. From what I understand it's vastly different from the original. Verify whether those reviews are for the new or old Zune desktop software.
Shoot, matter of fact, can't you download the Zune desktop software? Yeah i'm sure you can, download it and play around with it.

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-..Some say the price of holdin heat is often too high, you either be in a coffin or you be the new guy...


-A monkey is chased by a hyena and you cannot tell the laughter from the screams.

-Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there's gas in the

Check the junk mail folder too.
I don't have a copy of what I typed since I sent it from within okayplayer.
But basically everything is all laid out here in this post.

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-..Some say the price of holdin heat is often too high, you either be in a coffin or you be the new guy...


-A monkey is chased by a hyena and you cannot tell the laughter from the screams.

-Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there's gas in the

Cults on both sides like they are really, really, REALLY invested in whatever they have.

I'm a nerd, geek, whatever to the fullest...but, damn, I'm also a thinking human who knows nothing is "prefect" and everything has their up/down side.

>Cults on both sides like they are really, really, REALLY
>invested in whatever they have.
>
>I'm a nerd, geek, whatever to the fullest...but, damn, I'm
>also a thinking human who knows nothing is "prefect" and
>everything has their up/down side.

when it comes to their tech lol..
Never imagined this post would turn into this... I was bored, High Tech was mad lame lately, so I posted....

But i'ma ride for my shit though lol.....

yeah fucker, i got a zune, the "bulky" one. and i love it.

if u are gonna compare the ipod to the zune, then do just that.

u fuck things up when u start the whole zune vs. ipod, iphone, ipod-touch, ipod-orgasm, etc. arguments.

*** but on to the steak & potatoes... ***

imo, ipods are best-suited for casual users, if i gave my mom/sister a zune for x-mas, i'd might as well blow their brains out in succession.

i compare it to the difference between limewire and soulseek. are u tryna d/l the new soulja boy remix, or tryna find somebody w/a copy of casual: the fear itself? one is prettier and so easy a caveman can do it, but which is more effective? it depends.

i like my zune b/c i convert all my music to .wma/ .wmv format (a format non-techies barely know exist). sorry, i don't like buying hard drives. i think i'll sacrifice an unnoticeable amount of sound quality to make my files 3-5x smaller. dont need to hear dr. dre scratch his nuts in the studio. that's why the 30gb vs. 80gb argument has been irrelevant to me from day-1. i can put more music & video than ALL you ipod fuckers, if we talkin' .wma vs. .mp3.

up until recently, the ipod line wasnt fuckin' w/ the zune's screen size, radio option, and the user interface is still kickin' apple's ass, imo.

and i'm tired of hearin' these wi-fi/ marketplace vs. itunes arguments anyway, cause if ur buyin' music for any other reason than to support ur favorite a/o up-and-coming artists, ur pretty much a fuckin' embecile in my eyes anyway. and i ain't got time to be wirelessly sendin' u a song. These ain't pokemon tradin' cards, GO D/L THAT SHIT YOUR-GATDAMN-SELF

but hey, honestly, if wasn't a broke nigga tryna make a come-up & i had a cushy job that allowed for me to just buy said album off itunes, i'da been grabbed one. sorry i've always been the kinda dude that would rather roll with the pair of timbs (zune) that i can rock erryday, than the cat that would spend his last on them fly-ass jordans (ipod) that only go w/1 outfit...

p.s. -- apple be pimpin' these hoes.

"la laa lala wait till I get my money right"

- k. west

the probable remedies include buying a separate (non usb) charger or
calling tech support--neither of which I want to do

(the manual "reset" hasn't worked)

i'm kinda feeling this new firefox extension lol...it makes okayplayer seem like a real message board.

"the black human genius will never play out"

© lonnie r. lynn, jr.

allows you to see url links to photos as the actual photo without clicking on the link.

plug it into a computer, nothing (I've tried several pcs)

(one day I just let it play out, until the battery drained, which
shouldn't be a problem, ever since it won't turn on)

put the Zune to unlock, hold down the BACK button AND UP at the same time until it reboots

sig below:
-..Some say the price of holdin heat is often too high, you either be in a coffin or you be the new guy...


-A monkey is chased by a hyena and you cannot tell the laughter from the screams.

-Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there's gas in the

Mine is jaboonday...

*

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-..Some say the price of holdin heat is often too high, you either be in a coffin or you be the new guy...


-A monkey is chased by a hyena and you cannot tell the laughter from the screams.

-Is there gas in the car?
Yes, there's gas in the

it sucks since the update. My audio is no longer tagged properly for a lot of songs. I wish they would just incorporate it into the windows media player. Its the best way to keep track and play media.

just set the zune software to automatically search the folder you have set up as your media library for windows media player. by doing it this way, i can manage all my music using windows media player. i only open up the zune software to download new podcasts and to sync any updates i make to the windows media player library.

but truth be told...whichever's the first to get AM/FM or XM radio would get my vote. I'm always a fan of an all-in-one.
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"Being the bigger man is overrated." -- Huey (The Boondocks)

but i think it's impossible to make a small player capable of AM reception.

of course there are shortcomings like not being able to rearrange a playlist on the Zune itself, but i love my 320 kbps files. and damn, M$ really stepped their game up and made the Zune UIs pretty as shit.

that said, i DID own an iPhone (dumped it for a Tilt, and yes, Tilt >>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone), and i own a PC, laptop, and MacBook. the Mac only gets used for ProTools and Adobe though.

http://forums.zune.net/125188/ShowPost.aspx

PSYCHE YA MIND!
LMFAO!
I WILL NEVEREVEREVER BUY ONE THOSE....DEVICES!
lolz

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/zune-now-works-with-mac-os-x-and-linux-well-almost-217258.php

Read up.

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/nm/

All jokes aside, I still think that the Zune has promise...
But as of late, the bugs have deteriorated my appreciation and zeal for this device.
I'm now in the market for either a 32GB touch or a 160GB ipod Classic.
:(

They need to get the flash up to 64GB so i can have a nicer chunk of my media with me @ all times.

it's purple.

THat MIGHT be way too much storage to have on hand. TOO much to browse...but...i'd still do the 160GB classic though lol..
I worry that a 64GB touch would be cost prohibitive too. That'd be like $650+ probably! Don't think I could justify that purchase.
What are the chances of them releasing a hard drive based touch though? I'd jump on that probably.

I'm entertaining the 160GB classic because I have my CD collection ripped at 320 right now and I could get it all on there lol...

since you and typo buddy don't get along.

http://stores.ebay.com/QuickShipElectronics_W0QQssPageNameZSTRKQ3aMEFSXQ3aSSTQQtZkm

i still don't know how you be coming up on them lainks...

they do one day auctions A LOT.

so you can get one for a fairly decent price. remember to WATCH them bid @the LAST MINUTE.

an 80GB classic just went for $190...pretty good price, but only $20 cheaper than a refurb direct from Apple...ill keep an eye out.

All of my CDs were stolen. I have one CD. I need a stereo and it's pointless to purchase one with a cd player. With that said I need either an ipod or a zune with a nice stereo dock. I got until Friday to decide. What bugs are you talking about?

>All of my CDs were stolen. I have one CD. I need a stereo and
>it's pointless to purchase one with a cd player. With that
>said I need either an ipod or a zune with a nice stereo dock.
>I got until Friday to decide. What bugs are you talking
>about?

I gotta apologize to anybody that went and copped a Zune off the strength of this post...i feel i've done a disservice to the community with my antics. :( My bad folks...edranks on me ok?

But yeah, my biggest bugs have been with ID tags. The Zune desktop software just don't work well with tags man...I've been very very meticulous with tagging using Media Monkey and other software to no avail...Zune STILL wants to stick my One Way collection under Al Hudson or Alicia Myers! I can't rely on it to keep up with my podcasts, especially video podcasts. I'm dissappointed with the sheer lack of third party accessories out there for this damn thing..it's like either everyone is scared to touch it, or MS isn't providing folks the data they need to make 3rd party stuff...i dunno what it is, but it sucks.
Also there is a bug with my battery now!! Shit drains like a sink full of holes!
Dawg...just do yourself a favor and cop an ipod... :(
I've accepted my "L" already...all I can do now is save others.

Imma cop one on your behalf. lol

typobuddy...smh.

crucial frugal come ups all DAY!

:)

I went and read this whole post only to get a "Gotcha Bitch!" at the end.

Sounds like the same thing WMP does with mp3s. It's tagging is atrocious. I'm going thru my music collection now trying to get anything I ripped with that straight. I'm guessing the Zune software uses the same zany tagging system.

Oh well, join the evil empire. We all will be assimilated. I;m just waiting for a higher capacity Touch before I cop. I'm getting a classic in the meantime, as my 3 year old ipod Photo is full.

>Sounds like the same thing WMP does with mp3s. It's tagging
>is atrocious. I'm going thru my music collection now trying to
>get anything I ripped with that straight. I'm guessing the
>Zune software uses the same zany tagging system.
>
>Oh well, join the evil empire. We all will be assimilated. I;m
>just waiting for a higher capacity Touch before I cop. I'm
>getting a classic in the meantime, as my 3 year old ipod Photo
>is full.

The Zune software won't even let you alter tags. It just uses some strange method of reading the file name to organize your tracks. And the messed up thing is that I had it set to NOT update track information...but it took it upon itself to organize them the way it saw fit. And once you add an album to the sync list, it creates a separate file in your system folder and refers to THAT data file for all future organization of your tracks...so basically if you edit the tags and fix them, Zune software is STILL gonna refer to the OLD data file that it has tucked away deep into the system that you pretty much cant access... Common sense tells most "Hey, why dont you just uninstall the Zune software, fix all your tags and then reinstall?" heh...did that..MULTIPLE times...but that data file that Zune creates is buried so deep into the OS and SYstem files that #1 Uninstalling the software doesn't erase that data file, #2 that data file is really hidden and I can't find it #3 when you reinstall the Zune software, sure enough it finds that system file again and repeats the same errors!! The shit is NUTS!!

Yeah, i was already an ipod owner, i decided to go Zune with the higher capacity and larger screen.

I was going back and forth between the 160GB classic and the 32GB Touch. The screen size and the other features of the Touch won me over. 32GB Is just the right size for ease of browsing I believe now that i've experienced using an 80GB capacity player..

http://crave.cnet.com/8300-1_105-1.html?search=molly+zune

Molly Wood went ballistic because of her Zune mainly because it's the Mp3 player for non-techies, it does everything for you (see the auto-sync and tagging post above) and because I'm not a newbie I don't need a player and a software that's going to hold my hand throughout the process

in case you hadn't heard though, i've switched camps again..
she sounds like she had the same issues as me.

The DO have a software update being released this week though...we'll see if that helps

LOL

I may be back on my Zune kick again...not really but..it looks promising

http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/microsoft-bringing-ads-to-your-zune-everybody-panic/

Microsoft turned a few heads at its Advance '08 advertising conference by announcing a type of ads for its Zune platform, in addition to those web, TV and Xbox "branding experiences" it already delivers. The primary method described merely involved corporate sponsorships of celebrity playlists, with the "ad" being consigned to branding on that musician's Social card -- and you'd have to have friended the musician to see any of it at all. Apocalyptic stuff, eh? Microsoft also promises to keep the ads appropriate for the audience, so we're not going to start panicking just yet, but the first DAP builder to make us sit through a minute of ads every time we try to sync with our computer is sure score the (oh, hey, thanks for the $100, Microsoft!) scorn and vitriol love and affection of its customers for years to come.

>http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/microsoft-bringing-ads-to-your-zune-everybody-panic/
>
>Microsoft turned a few heads at its Advance '08 advertising
>conference by announcing a type of ads for its Zune platform,
>in addition to those web, TV and Xbox "branding experiences"
>it already delivers. The primary method described merely
>involved corporate sponsorships of celebrity playlists, with
>the "ad" being consigned to branding on that musician's Social
>card -- and you'd have to have friended the musician to see
>any of it at all. Apocalyptic stuff, eh? Microsoft also
>promises to keep the ads appropriate for the audience, so
>we're not going to start panicking just yet, but the first DAP
>builder to make us sit through a minute of ads every time we
>try to sync with our computer is sure score the (oh, hey,
>thanks for the $100, Microsoft!) scorn and vitriol love and
>affection of its customers for years to come.
>

Like really read it???

You'll be able to see em from your driveway.

I remember you in here HATIN on Blackberrys
only to post up like a year later:

"I'm about to cop a Blackberry"


Haha


You on that bullshit fam


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"

>I remember you in here HATIN on Blackberrys
>only to post up like a year later:
>"I'm about to cop a Blackberry"
>Haha

>You on that bullshit fam

I call shit like I see shit at the time. Until i'm convinced otherwise, I'll ride for the shit that's bringing me joy at the time.
How's that bullshit??

>I call shit like I see shit at the time. Until i'm convinced
>otherwise, I'll ride for the shit that's bringing me joy at
>the time.
>How's that bullshit??

If you took a more humble approach to shit than
you'd look like less of a dumbass

You be in here SWEARING by the shit you got
at the time and HATIN on everything else

Just fall back a little bit

you can say you like shit but you be on
some working for the company type shit





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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"

>If you took a more humble approach to shit than
>you'd look like less of a dumbass

My knowledge and input around here is well established. I have no worries about anyone that can't differentiate between me making a bait post vs. a serious post. So you can fall back and miss me with that looking like a dumbass shit for real..

>You be in here SWEARING by the shit you got
>at the time and HATIN on everything else

This is no different than 95% of the post on High Tech...hell on the internet in general. lol..

>Just fall back a little bit

Umm yeah....i'll do that.. lol....

>you can say you like shit but you be on
>some working for the company type shit

Folks that have been around here long enough know how I do. I'm serious enough when needs to be. And i've offered plenty of assistance around these parts when I could. The shit I say is no different from any of the other fanboy type shit that gets posted on these boards. Only difference is that I can't be accused of being partial to any one brand other than Windows Mobile...and i'll ride for that until that new hot shit comes out...believe that. So far Android is the only contender I see on the horizon..

Its all in good fun

I don't really care

Its just funny

You be on some switcheroo shit
with the quickness

lol


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "Cosmic Slop"

www.fightthesmears.com

Zune bout to have more heat:

http://www.zunerama.com/2008/09/more-new-zune-features-leaked-by-frys/

“Device to Cloud” - allows you to use wireless hotspots to update your collection, browse Zune Marketplace, refresh Channels (see below), exchange favorites with friends, or buy songs you’ve tagged from FM radio



www.fightthesmears.com

www.fightthesmears.com

how you gonna be on M$'s Zune Team and have a MacBook Pro...
http://www.zunerama.com/blog/graphics-08/zune-team-meeting-01.jpg
look closely, on the left the lady with the white hoody...
she's SABOTAGING the Zune!
LMFAO

www.fightthesmears.com

well. I would convert if that were a possibility.

http://zunited.net/news/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=208:zune-upgrades-video-selections&catid=50:releases-&Itemid=1


www.fightthesmears.com

I think it would be better if MS or Apple just integrated last.fm directly tho.

iTunes with a little sidebar saying what your Last.fm friends are listening to would be the shit.
««««««««««««««««««
I've got plenty of reasons to get mean, and you've got plenty of reasons to get hurt.

For one simple reason, with the Zune Pass Subscription, I can see what my Zune friends top songs are, and most recently listened to songs are, and they are actually synced with my Zune automatically. So I can listen to them immediately without waiting to go home and search for the song, download it, and sync it.

Also, no ads.

I bet if folks played around with the Zune.net website a little and the Zune desktop software, they would find that it's a lot better than itunes and Last FM

and it doesn't track any music that it doesn't have in its database, so those bootlegs and unreleased tracks? you can't find any info on. it's like they don't exist

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

>and it doesn't track any music that it doesn't have in its
>database, so those bootlegs and unreleased tracks? you can't
>find any info on. it's like they don't exist
>
>FREE CHAI VANG!
>
>YOU'VE READ MY FILE NIGGA (c) Jack 'Mufuckin' Bauer
>
>
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

At least I think it does. I have this Jay Electronica: What the F.ck is a Jay Electronica and it shows in my recent plays but it's in a light gray color. And I THINK I recall seeing that Bilal unreleased show up in my recent plays back when I was playing it. Maybe it's hit or miss?
How does LastFM track those types? Is it user contributions?

www.fightthesmears.com

and if it's tagged with a misspelling or something sometimes it will point that out and tell you to correct it

FREE CHAI VANG!

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

FREE CHAI VANG!

YOU'VE READ MY FILE NIGGA (c) Jack 'Mufuckin' Bauer



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

I'm siced as shit about having a clock though lol...

www.fightthesmears.com

query: how long have you owned your Zune & how's the battery holding up? Mine may be on its last legs here.

~ ~ ~

Grrrrrr © Tatiana

so far so good.


-it's a celebration bitches....

EQ function is rendered a mere novelty.
Heck, I don't even use the EQ function on my ipod touch when i'm using it with my Zune headphones.


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because it has been a brick since the 2.5 update. I would update then it would lock up every 2 days.


I installed 3.0 it has not locked up in the last week. So far this has been one of the best $140 i've spent

yeah, this new update is pretty dope.
I've had some shakey times with this thing, but i'm glad I stuck it out.

is it low fat? and isn't that uncomfortable for you, the taker?

Steve Jobs for president!!!

www.fightthesmears.com

Summary: With your $14.99/month Zune Pass subscription, you can now select 10 songs per month that will be yours to keep forever, no strings attached.

Link:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Microsoft-Announces-New-Zune-Pass/story.aspx?guid={A6D978F5-6E22-4EFF-95BA-39A4485E5A2C}

Article:
REDMOND, Wash., Nov 20, 2008 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Zune, Microsoft Corp.'s digital music and entertainment service, today announced landmark agreements with major and independent music labels to bring significant new value to the subscription music model. The Zune Pass subscription service currently gives consumers on-demand access to millions of tracks for $14.99 per month. Starting today subscribers will also get to select 10 tracks per month to keep and add them to their permanent collection (an estimated $10 value).
Agreements have been signed between Microsoft and EMI Music, Sony BMG Music Entertainment, Universal Music Group (UMG) and Warner Music Group, as well as independent distributors INgrooves, Independent Online Distribution Alliance and The Orchard. The Orchard delivers digital music, video and brand services globally, and represents labels including Barsuk Records (Nada Surf) and Fania Records (Hector Lavoe, Celia Cruz). IODA represents labels including Arts & Crafts (Broken Social Scene, The Stills) and Ghostly International (Matthew Dear, School of Seven Bells). The new enhanced subscription model came about as a result of close collaboration with all of these companies.
Zune Pass subscribers will have the added benefit of retaining digital rights management (DRM)-free MP3 tracks from Sony BMG and UMG, in addition to MP3 tracks from EMI Music, Warner Music Group and a large portion of the independent music labels. With the addition of tracks from UMG and Sony BMG, Zune will soon offer over 90 percent of its music in the MP3 format.
"The way people consume music has changed. With the shift to digital from CDs, it is more challenging than ever to offer the right mix of deep content, music discovery and economic value," said Chris Stephenson, general manager of global marketing for Zune at Microsoft. "People want the freedom to listen to whatever they want across millions of songs, combined with the confidence that they can keep their favorite tracks forever."
From its inception, Zune has bet on the power of subscription, not only as a consumption model but also as a way to highlight the music discovery features central to the Zune experience and the PC platform. The Zune service gives consumers convenient and unlimited access to the music they want, and also connects them to other music fans and expert sources to help them find the music they will love. The new enhancements to the Zune Pass subscription service offer unprecedented value for all music fans.
"The subscription model continues to redefine the digital music landscape, and today's announcement is great news for consumers, artists and labels," said Simon Renshaw, chief executive officer of Strategic Artist Management (representing Dixie Chicks, Miranda Lambert, Everclear, Tila Tequila and Aly & AJ). "This breakthrough offer makes it easier than ever for consumers to discover new music and will encourage deeper engagement in the digital music space, and that is good for the entire industry."
A Zune Pass gives a subscriber access to millions of tracks that can be streamed or downloaded from a PC or directly from a Zune device when in a wireless hot spot.(1) Downloaded music can be shared among up to three PCs and three Zune devices. In addition to unlimited downloads, consumers now also get to select 10 free tracks per month to keep and add to their permanent collection. These tracks can be burned to a CD or moved to other devices even if their subscription ends.
Since the launch of the Zune portable media player and music service two years ago, Zune has invested in improving the subscription model and the discovery experience it brings to life. With the recent launch of Zune 3.0, Microsoft built additional value into the Zune Pass offering by adding new features focused on music discovery and personalizing the music experience for each user:
-- Mixview. Customers can select an artist, album or listener from the Zune Social online music community to activate a dynamic visual mosaic of related music and listeners. With each click, users can take the view in a new direction. Mixview works with users' current collection of music, in addition to tracks and albums from across the Zune Marketplace.
-- Zune Channels. Subscribers can explore dozens of channels programmed by genre; explore sources such as Billboard Hot 100, The FADER magazine and KEXP radio; or access themed channels, like fitness, to get a steady stream of new music added to their collection automatically. Zune will even create custom channels for each user, based on favorite artists and genres.
-- Personal Picks. Now the Zune software learns what kind of music users like and makes personal recommendations. Each week Zune suggests artists, albums and tracks based on the music each person has been listening to, as well as channels they might enjoy and listeners like them in the Zune Social.
To give people a chance to experience the Zune Pass subscription, Zune is offering a free, 14-day trial to all new customers.(2) More information is available at http://www.zune.net/free.

subscription PLUS ten mostly drm free tracks a month for the price of ONE CD? you gotta be fucking kidding me

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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

-it's a celebration bitches....

FREE CHAI VANG!

YOU'VE READ MY FILE NIGGA (c) Jack 'Mufuckin' Bauer



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Zune going HARD this season...

Link:
http://social.zune.net/artist/Common/08380400-0600-11db-89ca-0019b92a3933/overview

Summary:
For a limited time, Common's new album, Universal Mind Control, is available in Zune Marketplace for a special low price — the price of one song. If you haven't already, download Zune 3.0 software and buy 400 Microsoft Points (the minimum number of points you can get). Then buy Universal Mind Control for 79 points (99¢) when it's released on December 9. You can use your remaining points for other Zune or Xbox purchases.



-it's a celebration bitches....

Hell yah, I got a Zune 80 when that shit first came out. People need to give it a try...

Choose a Zune when shopping for a new MP3 player.

-it's a celebration bitches....

My Cowon D2 shits on the Nano & mini Zens or whatever is the M$ flash equivalent.

-fin-

-it's a celebration bitches....

But basically when I wrote this post, it was at a time when Zune was getting shat on real tuff. I appreciate all of the media players out there. My first was a Creative Zen. The ORIGINAL one circa 1999. I thought I was stuntin with a 128mb MMC. lol! But I still maintain that the sound quality on that thing shits on all modern media players. I still have it. I fired it up a couple of weeks ago when i was going through some old junk in my closet just to see if it still worked, it did. And it sounded waay better then my ipod touch and almost as good as my Zune. So yeah, i'll always be a fan of Creative's products.

I entertained the Cowons too. But that passed....not sure why...I think it was probably the availability or something, and when I saw the Zune Pass, I knew i'd want that.

-it's a celebration bitches....

had the jawn that was aluminum cased, ish was a thorobred for the year & a half I had it (hard drive finally crapped out :( ). 20gigs tho of music was my utopia back in college. Then was the even more impressive Rio Karma which also had 20gigs, crossfader + sound almost as nice as the zen & probably one of THE most impressive portables I ever dealt with to this day in terms of music playback, sadly the HD going bad in that eventually had me run to flash players thus my current boo the Cowon D2 ^_^

Never was a big fan of apple tho since I toyed around with them enough to know they're not gonna suit my nitpickyness... but to be honest, them 32GB touches is a helluva temptation if I was to ever look for a new player.

Aight, I'll clean up my poop I slinged @ this thread hahaha.

this one:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BMPEYVVXL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

lol
32MB built in and could accommodate up to 128MB MMC

Peep the amazon review
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BMPEYVVXL._SL500_AA280_.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Labs-NOMAD-Digital-Player/dp/B00004RG6K&usg=__sYFFPeWIQ5EpmmosGFE0yEJrvaY=&h=280&w=280&sz=13&hl=en&start=1&sig2=rqO83Ie2tyqhANOxvkkqEA&um=1&tbnid=ch-3Jt1FcQpodM:&tbnh=114&tbnw=114&ei=MBY4SbmHPKSIedXUqbQD&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCreative%2BNomad%2BII%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN



-it's a celebration bitches....

Bought a 120gb Zune today and I have to say I'm extremely pleased, wasn't sure what to think but after only hours of use I think its a thousand times better than my iPod video/classic.

you get a Zune pass yet?

I want a 120 too, but I can't justify it to the wife lol...
This 80GB gonna have to hold me down a lil longer. Is the finish of the 120GB glossy?

sorry. Creative Zen Vision M here.

60 GB is all I've used and haven't had one problem.

http://zune.net/NR/rdonlyres/51C26987-5500-43E1-83C6-520429A632FD
/0/headline_Homepage_64MoreToLoveV2.png

Zune has come full circle.

Gen 1 Device - Solid & check
Gen 2 Devices - Solid & check
Gen 3 Devices - Solid & check
gen 4 Devices - Likely to be solid and even more check. hitting from all angles now with a focused plan of attack. Kin for the Kiddies; Win 7 for the adults; Zune HD keeping the party live for all those in between. Zune will shed it's earthly form and ascend to the clouds...Prophesy fulfilled.
Maybe not the iPod killer...but pretty much the only viable alternative that makes any sense in todays market.

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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=11&topic_id=132175&mesg_id=132175&listing_type=search

:)

..point taken tho, I would probably fuck with a Zune way before i fux with a iPod if I was to ever get another DAP

Ultimately, I think Apple should be faulted for the lack of widespread support of flac.

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...ouch

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squarely at getting a Zune when this iPod 60g fell in my lap. But I bought my wife a 8G zune and I loved how easy it was to use and upload music.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/05/gamjallardbillgates580.jpg

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"...fuck"

--
bah

will have to do for todays workout...

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http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/14/microsoft-reportedly-kills-off-zune-hardware-will-focus-on-soft/

we had a good run....

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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=11&topic_id=132175&mesg_id=132175&listing_type=search

the Zune device even mentionable...
Apple should take note.

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and zune don't have it, as far as I know

I think the day of the stand alone DAP is coming to a close in general. The phone is the new everything.

service as well.
They could really take over the game if they'd port the platform to other devices as an app.

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Unless WM7(8) fails completely, that won't happen. Right now it's one of the only good reasons to opt for WinMo over Android.

>service as well.
>They could really take over the game if they'd port the
>platform to other devices as an app.
>
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>pour out a lil licka for the homie >>>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=11&topic_id=132175&mode=full#252387

I hope not.
I don't want my phone to do everything.
and if it's gonna be a DAP... the storage needs to be upped.

which means most people will continue using iTunes for the foreseeable future

that's scary

that said, there has been some speculation that MS would kill off the
Zune hardware, rename the software and include it on a re-branded device,
perhaps "xbox" or "Live." that still won't challenge the iPod's supremacy,
but could at least give MS a chance to sell devices to kids who aren't
old enough to buy phones

feb 12

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/Windows-Phone-7/Nokia-Microsoft-An-Analysis-of-the-Strategic-Alliance.aspx

feb 15

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/is-microsoft-zune-about-to-be-kinned/8712?tag=mantle_skin;content

feb 16

http://windowsphonesecrets.com/2011/02/16/about-zune-yes-microsoft-is-killing-it/

period...I guess they just want to be known as a software company primarily. Which ultimately, is likely the best move for them. I'd hate to see the Zune brand killed completely. Perhaps it's infamy....but it's still perhaps one of the most recognizable brands out there.

I doubt that the service will be killed off though.

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hell...my Samsung Fascinate gets more play than my iPod....
The funny thing is that everyone knowns iTunes is severely lacking in performance and features, it's kind of ironic that their hardware is the only thing keeping their software relevant and that MS's software is what keeps their hardware relevant.

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I got my foot in 3 of the major ecosystems (apple, android & MS).... I'm just vocal about my support and praise of MS the most...

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not sure how exactly it relates here.


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...no different than someone rockin a Zune today

I mean, it's an L, yes, but he's copping to it.

I'll stick with my Classic and MediaMonkey, thank you very much

to music. I get 10 FREE songs/month. I get access to the Zune catalog from any computer i'm on anywhere. #StillWinning.

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As far as I know, it's the only (relevant) service that actually allows you to download all the music you want onto multiple devices and PC's as well as retain some tracks DRM-free.



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>As far as I know, it's the only (relevant) service that
>actually allows you to download all the music you want onto
>multiple devices and PC's as well as retain some tracks
>DRM-free.
>

like you said, Zune pass is the consensus "killer" feature of the Zune platform.
as iTunes has shown, DRM doesn't matter enough to make people switch

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anyway, as I said, there have been rumors that MS will launch a new
pmp/gaming device and this strengthens those rumors:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/15/microsoft-says-zune-isnt-exactly-dead-that-it-doesnt-want-to/

Only folks that haven't bothered to check out Zune Pass would make a comment like this. Pandora is great, I use it everyday....but I also use my Zune pass on a regular basis too.


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LOL

I upped my own post with bad news about a product I've been boosting for 3 years, I'd say I've admitted defeat.........


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L
OH
L

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>Just wanted to put that out there...
>I see Soul shot ya getting down with Ol' Dirty lately...
>RJCC been bangin that Hillary Duff.... (WTF?!?!?!)
>Techsista on that Jaheim
>
>I synced my collection from the front seat of my car, while in
>my DRIVEWAY!,because I forgot to get my latest NPR podcast
>before I headed out.
>
>My headphones never get tangled..you wanna know why?? MAGNETS
>son...MAGNETS...
>
>Zune desktop shits on iTunes...
>Zune.net is pretty much that shit...
>
>Yeah, anyone not up on Zune is pretty much in sleep mode.
>
>sig below:
>-..Some say the price of holdin heat is often too high, you
>either be in a coffin or you be the new guy...
>
>
>-A monkey is chased by a hyena and you cannot tell the
>laughter from the screams.
>
>-Is there gas in the car?
>Yes, there's gas in the

oh my ribs...

LMFAOOOOOOO

...and don't jump on one of these now, you might just be a dumb ass.

http://www.crutchfield.com/s_113KOSA300/Kenwood-KOS-A300-Factory-Radio-Upgrade-System.html?search=Kenwood+KOS+A300

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/03/15/microsoft.zune.rip/index.html?iref=NS1



RDF is a BITCH!

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when i saw 400 replies though i said awwww phuck it LOL

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I just realized I've been on this website over half my life.

Crazy thing is...MS just FINALLY killed off all remnants of the Zune legacy a few weeks ago.

My Zune still fires up though...but all the songs are locked because the rights expired long ago lol...

"Get ready....for your blessing....."

.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."

so I can finally move over for good. For now, my smartphone is a dedicated podcast machine