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iLLoGiCz
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"questions for my 5%ers..."


  

          

do you consider yourself a follower of the ways of islam??
do you think the nation of gods&earths is only for black men and women??
do you follow any other religious/spiritual teachings??

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we don't advocate the muslim religion
Oct 14th 2005
1
RE: we don't advocate the muslim religion
Oct 14th 2005
2
it takes several hundred years of eugenics to make white people
Oct 14th 2005
9
      it actually takes several thousand years of natural selection
Oct 14th 2005
34
           It actually takes me about 20 seconds
Oct 15th 2005
77
..."original"... man that bullshit is so fucked up
Oct 14th 2005
3
Peace,I got this one G-d
Oct 14th 2005
4
RE: Peace,I got this one G-d
Oct 14th 2005
5
I didn't really understand that last part
Oct 14th 2005
6
perhaps you should attend a universal parliament
Oct 14th 2005
12
hold up, are you in the Nation of Gods and Earths?
Oct 14th 2005
11
      Is this directed at me?
Oct 14th 2005
      Is this directed at me?
Oct 14th 2005
28
           I don't agree with all "civilized" people
Oct 14th 2005
30
                The original question was directed at 5%ers not just NGE
Oct 16th 2005
82
                     even so you know most people mean Allah's Nation
Oct 16th 2005
85
it takes several hundred years of eugenics to make white people
Oct 14th 2005
10
still... what's so "unoriginal" bout whites? does your religion only
Oct 15th 2005
78
ask any anthropologist.
Oct 25th 2005
163
RE: we don't advocate the muslim religion
Oct 14th 2005
32
LOL...Peace HoChiGrimm
Oct 15th 2005
81
      RE: LOL...Peace HoChiGrimm
Oct 16th 2005
83
           you got it wrong, in most cases....
Oct 16th 2005
84
           RE: you got it wrong, in most cases....
Oct 16th 2005
98
           this is one area where i will defend the nation
Oct 25th 2005
164
           Hold up DRE, I'm not wrong, you just happen to disagree me.
Oct 16th 2005
102
                I respect the HELL out of what you just wrote!
Oct 17th 2005
104
                Peace to you.
Oct 17th 2005
106
                RE: Hold up DRE, I'm not wrong, you just happen to disagree me.
Oct 18th 2005
145
                well if it's not ur business
Oct 25th 2005
165
                     Please elaborate.
Oct 25th 2005
169
           You're an idealist & that's admirable/cool in theory
Oct 16th 2005
86
                Well, I'll tell ya, I've been accused of the very opposite.
Oct 16th 2005
103
                     Now when you say stake in Black survival, is that a freudian slip?
Oct 17th 2005
108
                          Response.
Oct 18th 2005
127
                          i can tell u
Oct 25th 2005
166
                               What
Oct 25th 2005
171
Question for Allah...
Oct 15th 2005
76
we don't advocate worship
Oct 15th 2005
79
      it seems inseperable from...
Oct 16th 2005
88
           there is no mystery god or being superior to the Original Man
Oct 16th 2005
91
                this original man...
Oct 16th 2005
101
                     RE: this original man...
Oct 17th 2005
114
                     He is eternal. n/m.
Oct 18th 2005
126
                          RE: He is eternal. n/m.
Oct 18th 2005
140
                               thankfully...
Oct 21st 2005
150
                                    procreation and education is how we are Eternal
Oct 21st 2005
152
                                         look again..
Oct 21st 2005
160
                                              conservation of energy/momentum, and soon, "information"
Oct 24th 2005
161
                                              RE: look again..
Oct 24th 2005
162
                     from his father and mother
Oct 17th 2005
116
                          and they? n/m
Oct 18th 2005
125
QUESTION: Do y'all belive in the story of Yacub?
Oct 16th 2005
87
we KNOW (not "believe") white people was made from black people
Oct 16th 2005
93
      do you take the story literally? n/m
Oct 16th 2005
95
           naw
Oct 16th 2005
96
Islam does NOT mean peace.
Oct 16th 2005
100
What power does the black man have that the white man doesn't? n/m
Oct 14th 2005
7
White people can't make black babies
Oct 14th 2005
8
      is that all? n/m
Oct 14th 2005
15
           concentration of mental and physical powers per mass/volume
Oct 14th 2005
16
           yeah, that Einstein guy's concentration of mental powers was really poor
Oct 14th 2005
36
                Einstein wasn't doper than Newton, and Newton was in the "fraternities"
Oct 14th 2005
                Einstein wasn't doper than Newton, and Newton was in the "fraternities"
Oct 14th 2005
38
                Newton was even whiter than Einstein & believed in a spook god
Oct 15th 2005
59
                     you can't be in those societies of the Enlightment and believe ...
Oct 15th 2005
62
                          Newton was DEEPLY religious
Oct 15th 2005
63
                               you are more folish than I thought
Oct 15th 2005
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                                    RE: you are more folish than I thought
Oct 15th 2005
75
                                    you're more delusional than I thought
Oct 16th 2005
89
                                         40th Black...lemme say this w/out sounding argumentative...
Oct 18th 2005
134
                                              what "fraternities" was he a member of exactly?
Oct 18th 2005
137
                Einstein wasn't doper than Newton, and Newton was in the "fraternities"
Oct 14th 2005
39
           RE: is that all? n/m
Oct 14th 2005
23
                all people have the potential to produce melatonin
Oct 14th 2005
27
                     RE: all people have the potential to produce melatonin
Oct 14th 2005
29
                          It produces melanin much like the starting of an exhausted engine
Oct 14th 2005
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                          the simple fact that any of them can produce at all / sources
Oct 14th 2005
35
The Original Man is everyone is who is not white
Oct 14th 2005
13
actually the "16 shades" on the Sun in our Flag represent
Oct 14th 2005
14
damn, that's dope...
Oct 15th 2005
43
      the cross used to be a positive symbol....
Oct 15th 2005
45
           the ankh is life...
Oct 15th 2005
48
                Nah, the circle at the top of the ankh represents the head
Oct 15th 2005
68
                     i've never read nor heard of that anywhere...
Oct 15th 2005
71
i agree with that...
Oct 14th 2005
20
      the black gene was grafted out...
Oct 14th 2005
24
      BWT, how would, out of coincedence, an enire race of albinos
Oct 18th 2005
138
I'LL GIVE YOU THE REAL ANSWER YOU'RE LOOKING FOR:
Oct 14th 2005
17
caucasian white people can be in the Five Percent
Oct 14th 2005
18
i'm not sayin i want to be 5%er...
Oct 14th 2005
19
      we prefer the term Science or Scientific instead of "spiritual"
Oct 14th 2005
21
           so there's no belief in the metaphysical???
Oct 14th 2005
25
           I don't believe in metaphysics, I know Physics though
Oct 14th 2005
26
           wheres the humility???
Oct 15th 2005
42
                I am not mankind, I am MAN and you didn't answer my question
Oct 15th 2005
44
                     hold up...
Oct 15th 2005
47
                          you have respect but you don't give a fuck?
Oct 15th 2005
49
                               i mean...
Oct 15th 2005
50
                                    infinity = any real number / 0
Oct 15th 2005
51
                                         doesn't that just equal 0???
Oct 15th 2005
52
                                         did you graduate from highschool?
Oct 15th 2005
54
                                         you can't divide by zero...
Oct 15th 2005
57
                                         *pulls out red pen*
Oct 17th 2005
119
                                              Proper Education Always Corrects Errors, thanks, this is what I meant
Oct 17th 2005
120
                                         I don't believe a thing, the Black Man is the Creator
Oct 15th 2005
56
                                              what about the hourglass nebula???
Oct 15th 2005
58
                                                   The Universe IS the Black Man's Body (family)
Oct 15th 2005
64
                                                        let me end this conversation...
Oct 15th 2005
66
                                                        It's not necessary for you to study 120
Oct 15th 2005
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                                                             goddamn, man...
Oct 15th 2005
70
                                                                  Taoism is Building and Destroying (balance)
Oct 15th 2005
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                                                                  i know what taoism means...
Oct 15th 2005
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                                                                  please repeat the question
Oct 15th 2005
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                                                                  RE: please repeat the question
Oct 17th 2005
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                                                                  u talibans b killin me... happy ramadan nigga....
Oct 17th 2005
118
                                                        ^^^^^ studied in class and didn't do graffiti on his folder^^^^^
Oct 15th 2005
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                                                        RE: The Universe IS the Black Man's Body (family)
Oct 16th 2005
99
                                                        i believe/understand that
Oct 25th 2005
167
                                                             If not here,
Oct 25th 2005
170
                                                             making the sun rise
Oct 25th 2005
172
                                                                  Please read this book
Oct 26th 2005
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                                         Anything divided by 0 is undefined
Oct 17th 2005
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           Anything that cannot be seen, touched, or proven is spook
Oct 14th 2005
33
                i'm not talkin about somethin "imaginary"...
Oct 15th 2005
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                     Man is the Mentality that has always exist and will continue to exist
Oct 15th 2005
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           but there's nothing scientific about it
Oct 14th 2005
37
                trolling........
Oct 14th 2005
40
                     Not trolling
Oct 15th 2005
53
                          who is advocating religion?
Oct 15th 2005
55
                               you are
Oct 15th 2005
60
                               the fuck you say......
Oct 15th 2005
61
                                    Yakub is spook story
Oct 16th 2005
90
                                         you trying to say that white people don't come from black people?
Oct 16th 2005
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                                              they did, but not through grafting by some bigheaded evil scientist(s)
Oct 16th 2005
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                                                   "he" wasn't evil nor "big-headed", just a regular Scientist/Community
Oct 16th 2005
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                                                        "he" is a myth
Oct 17th 2005
111
                                                             A myth is culturally relative...not necessarily an untrue story
Oct 17th 2005
112
                                                                  let me rephrase: black people creating yt by grafting is an untrue story
Oct 17th 2005
115
                                                                       Eskimoes in Alaska, white mice from brown field mice
Oct 17th 2005
121
                                                                            Apologies for interrupting again 40.
Oct 18th 2005
131
                                                                            did you guys invent polar bears too?
Oct 18th 2005
136
                                                                                 So a fish diet prevented their melanin from being evolved out?
Oct 18th 2005
139
                                                                                 there is a ton of anthropological evidence
Oct 25th 2005
168
                               you are
Oct 15th 2005
74
RE: I'LL GIVE YOU THE REAL ANSWER YOU'RE LOOKING FOR:
Oct 14th 2005
22
I think alot of this is interesting and all but where is the
Oct 17th 2005
105
how effective are they are feeding there families?
Oct 17th 2005
107
      It's been difficult, DRE.
Oct 18th 2005
128
           RE: It's been difficult, DRE.
Oct 18th 2005
129
How come people bait 5%'rs under the guise of 'trying to learn'
Oct 17th 2005
109
I know
Oct 17th 2005
113
i hope none of this is directed towards me...
Oct 17th 2005
122
WHy wouldn't the white man be the devil?
Oct 18th 2005
135
      shit bruh, i ain't thinkin' none of that...
Oct 20th 2005
149
           I don't care if you as a white person call your self god, however...
Oct 21st 2005
153
                whats your problem kidd???
Oct 21st 2005
154
                     I wasn't hating, however, white people came from somewhere...
Oct 21st 2005
155
                          i agree with that...
Oct 21st 2005
159
mofo, please shut up....
Oct 17th 2005
123
      "....this post reeks of Allah....."
Oct 17th 2005
124
      RE: mofo, please shut up....
Oct 18th 2005
130
      Understanding is essential in learning
Oct 18th 2005
132
      The ORIGINAL post was very clear, and concise...
Oct 18th 2005
133
What's the 5%er take on evolution?
Oct 18th 2005
141
The common ancestor of man and ape is.... MAN!
Oct 18th 2005
142
      RE: The common ancestor of man and ape is.... MAN!
Oct 18th 2005
143
      Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... that was *our* planet!
Oct 18th 2005
144
           No Respect, No Love, Idiots replying to serious discussion!
Oct 19th 2005
146
                this is not a serious discussion
Oct 19th 2005
147
                RE: No Respect, No Love, Idiots replying to serious discussion!
Oct 19th 2005
148
                     Time and place
Oct 21st 2005
151
TRUE ISLAM'S WEBSITE
Oct 21st 2005
156
He is not in the Nation of Gods and Earths, he's a muslim with Farrakhan
Oct 21st 2005
158
      RE: He is not in the Nation of Gods and Earths, he's a muslim with Farra...
Oct 26th 2005
174
A persons ways and actions define who they are....
Oct 21st 2005
157

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1. "we don't advocate the muslim religion"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

Islam means Peace, so we advocate Peace. We don't advocate
the modern arabic muslim religion though.
All Original People (non white people) can be Gods and Earths,
and any caucasian white people that are advocates of the
Nation of Gods and Earths are called civilized people.
No we don't practice religion or spookism ("spirituality" used
in the wrong context) However we study martial arts,
meditation, health and diet, etc. as long as it improves
the mental and physical powers, and doesn't involve
spook worship.

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2. "RE: we don't advocate the muslim religion"
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What is your definition of white and black. I see on your webpage Allah's Nation you say you are not anti-white, neither pro-black but pro-righteousness and anti-devilishment. I understand black people have to do for self, but what exactly is your definition.. or should i say where goes the border between black and white.
You say The Black man is the orginal man (all non white people) am i right? Well, then what about people of mixed origin. Like african-american/irish american.... or as in my case danish/pakistani..?

Peace

  

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9. "it takes several hundred years of eugenics to make white people"
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so the process you described, that's the form of eugenics,
otherwise called "grafting".

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34. "it actually takes several thousand years of natural selection"
In response to Reply # 9


  

          

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77. "It actually takes me about 20 seconds"
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Nah, I lie.

10 seconds.

  

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3. "..."original"... man that bullshit is so fucked up"
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Say there is a black man. He marries a white woman. They have a 1/2 white 1/2 black child. Then say this child marries someone white and their child looks almost entirely white. Then that child marries someone white and that child is entirely white.

Is that not original? Is that child not considered "natural" and therefor not a human being?

  

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4. "Peace,I got this one G-d"
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I AM the original man,the Asiatic Black man; the Maker; the Owner; the Cream of the planet Earth, Father of Civilization, God of the
Universe.

by the way my mother is white


this answer your question

  

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Prince Kaleem
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5. "RE: Peace,I got this one G-d"
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so a light skinned blue eyed south asian (darkskinned father.ID yes) with an caucasian mother could be godbody, not just civilised according to your sciences?

cuz there seems there is gap between the attitudes of the NGE and the average God... OR maybe i just ignorant

  

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6. "I didn't really understand that last part"
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12. "perhaps you should attend a universal parliament"
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to see the ethnic make up. You are going to see alot of
Black Brown and Yellow, and some White and Red.

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11. "hold up, are you in the Nation of Gods and Earths?"
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I really advocate you should just leave this alone if you are
not in the Nation. Peace.

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"Is this directed at me?"


  

          

Cause the 5% extends beyond a certain organization

  

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28. "Is this directed at me?"
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Cause the 5% extends beyond a certain organization

  

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30. "I don't agree with all "civilized" people"
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I asked you if you was in the Nation of Gods and Earths.
You should tell that guy when you are speaking that
you are not in the Nation, so he doesn't get confused.
If you are in the Temple or some other group but still
teaching that the Black Man is God, you need to tell him
what group you are with, so he doesn't confuse your group
with the Nation of Gods and Earths.
Peace.

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82. "The original question was directed at 5%ers not just NGE"
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was it not?????

  

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85. "even so you know most people mean Allah's Nation"
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when they say "five percenters" so again,
are you in the Nation of Gods and Earths (simple yes or no question).

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10. "it takes several hundred years of eugenics to make white people"
In response to Reply # 3


  

          

so the process you described, that's the form of eugenics,
otherwise called "grafting".

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78. "still... what's so "unoriginal" bout whites? does your religion only"
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judge those by their exteriors? Frankly I wouldn't want to be in a religion centered around physical appearance.

  

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163. "ask any anthropologist."
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everyone came out of africa.

over time, variations in looks/complexion became common, but, technically speaking, african (black/brown/etc) people are the *original* homo sapiens.

*shrug*

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32. "RE: we don't advocate the muslim religion"
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Fri Oct-14-05 06:27 PM by HoChiGrimm

  

          

>Islam means Peace, so we advocate Peace. We don't advocate
>the modern arabic muslim religion though.
>All Original People (non white people) can be Gods and
>Earths,
>and any caucasian white people that are advocates of the
>Nation of Gods and Earths are called civilized people.
>No we don't practice religion or spookism ("spirituality"
>used
>in the wrong context) However we study martial arts,
>meditation, health and diet, etc. as long as it improves
>the mental and physical powers, and doesn't involve
>spook worship.

Now see, brother, this is what
I like about you: the willingness
to provide insight and clarification
about the 'culture' (i.e., each one,
teach one). Some of your brethren
on this board -- a brother who will
remain undisclosed -- always becomes
defensive and incredulous, when a
question is posed about the 'way of
life', which gives many the impression
that it resembles some Masonic-like,
secret society.

I sometimes come at many of you on
this on this board with a cynical attitude,
simply because I emphatically LOATHE
hypocrisy, whether it be exhibited by a
religious leader, politicians, or someone
claiming to be a poor, righteous teacher.
I find it even more appalling when it's
exhibited by individuals proclaiming them-
selves to be god. And make no mistake
about it, I get in the asses of Christians
and Muslims for that as well.

Down here in Jersey, I grew up around
mad self-proclaimed NGE members and
MOST of those turkeys engaged in activ-
ities that would make the devil(s) rejoice
(e.g., hustling, drinking, etc.), because
it contributed to self desruction.

In the late 80's, I was dating a young
lady, whose cousins were 5%'ers, and
every time I'd come around the house,
one of those jokers (Supreme) would act
slick, talkin about, "Divine Evil is here!"
Meanwhile, this joker would be outside on
the block hustling and swiggin St. Ives.
No big deal cuz it was all "singing" and no
swinging.

My point is, if you're gonna take it upon your-
self (speaking in general) to adopt a god name
that implies righteousness -- LIVE IT. Stop ass-
uming that a moniker and the mastery of esoteric
jargon makes you feel like a somebody, and start
conducting yourself with integrity, and lead by
example, your communities depend on it.

And before "you know who you are" gets on here
and starts talking greasy to me about, "white man,
this ain't your business..." Let me tell you some-
thing, Jack, I CAN AND WILL MAKE IT MY BUSINESS,
simply because the problem plaguing original people(s)
is a HUMAN PROBLEM; not just a problem exclusive to
men and woman congregating outside the Allah School
In Mecca.

Got that?

Again DRE, big up for the insight.


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81. "LOL...Peace HoChiGrimm"
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Its really not that serious man.

The problem that affects original people
have to be analyzed & solved by original
people sir.

My problem w/you is when you speak about
Black affairs as an authoritative figure...
regardless if you grew up around original
people & really wanna "help" our situation
& please do not parallel "human" and original
peoples struggle...its semantics like that that
clouds the vision of our struggle.

I just come from the school of thought that
we (as Black people) need to tend to our own
business, speak & do for ourselves sir.

I have no malice towards you man...& I have no
problem w/exchanging info. w/you via these boards
that pertains to any type of relevant info.

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83. "RE: LOL...Peace HoChiGrimm"
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>My problem w/you is when you speak about
>Black affairs as an authoritative figure...
>regardless if you grew up around original
>people & really wanna "help" our situation
>& please do not parallel "human" and original
>peoples struggle...its semantics like that that
>clouds the vision of our struggle.

Well, for one, I've stated time
and again that I am not an authority
on internal matters within the Black
community (I'm a firm believer in self-
determination). Nor is my assertion that
being surrounded by members of another
racial/ethnic group, meant to imply
otherwise. I use personal anecdotes
to emphasize my points because my reality
is based on life experience, as well as
book knowledge. I call it as I see it.

My original point was to underscore my
gratitude towards someone who is willing
to teach, rather than just preach. More
often than not on this board, someone
will inquire about NGE teachings, and
the typical reply is: "What's it to you?"
That type of attitude hinders learning.

Furthermore, my intent is not to blur the
lines between the plight of original
people and the human "race". If anything,
I've always argued that the failure to draw
a qualitative distinction between the
two trivializes the struggle of oppressed
peoples. With that stated, the momunmental
challenge for non-whites to eradicate global
white supremacy is indeed a human problem.
To argue otherwise absolves humankind from
it's global responsibility to bring forth
a sustainable world based equality, justice,
and freedom.

Peace.

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84. "you got it wrong, in most cases...."
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Sun Oct-16-05 08:12 AM by Allah

  

          

people already know what we teach, they are just
looking for an argument, let me give you an example

Q "What do you guys teach"
A "We teach that Black Man is God and that there is no mystery god"
Q "Will I think you are wrong because I believe in a mystery god
and I like white people, and I can't believe you don't like
a mystery god"
A "WHO THE FUCK SAID I HATE WHITE PEOPLE, just because I love myself
doesn't mean I 'hate' white people, and you the one asking me
what we teach, we not evangalizing like that for you to come
in here 'acting sincere' but really HATING"


I think alot of times people come on here to ask these questions
so they can start "race wars" in the forum, because they are like
"I can't wait for them to call white people devils, huh huh huh,
huh huh huh"
That's my perspective of alot of these queries.

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98. "RE: you got it wrong, in most cases...."
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>"I can't wait for them to call white people devils, huh huh
>huh,
>huh huh huh"

But your religion does dictate that the white man is devil.

  

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164. "this is one area where i will defend the nation"
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>>"I can't wait for them to call white people devils, huh huh
>>huh,
>>huh huh huh"
>
>But your religion does dictate that the white man is devil.

or rastafari or any religion/way of life/creed made for, by, and about blk ppl....

until you have faced the degredation and the hatred that we have in this country, across the diaspora, and in africa herself, i wouldn't be so glib about why a particular system sees white ppl in a certain way.

from a purely psychological perspective, any halfway intelligent person should be able to get why blk ppl might need a way of life where they are supreme and the white man (don't get it twisted: many 5%ers also identify with the struggles of native americans, latinos, and others) isn't.

not to say it's right on an *individual* level, but systemically?

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102. "Hold up DRE, I'm not wrong, you just happen to disagree me."
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There have been many a time when
people on this board simply in-
quired about the teachings, and
SOME of your NGE brethren reacted
in a haughty and defensive manner.
You, on the other hand, display a
willingness to teach rather than
preach, and I'm grateful to you for
that.

Now, you stated that some individuals
are just looking for an argument, and
I would agree with that. However, what
do you expect when you had cats out
here in Freehold, NJ, in the early 90's,
proclaiming themselves "god", and were
in and out of the 'County' at least every
other month? I point out the early 90s
because most of these jokers were arrested
in massive drug raids (by jakes we referred
to then as "Jump-Out Boys"), which in turn
led to the demise -- at least on a large
scale -- of the 5%'ers (in Freehold and
Lakewood as well).

Do you not expect people to react argument-
atively with jokers who abstain from hog but
engage in excessive drinking and inhale
Black N Milds like there's no tomorrow?

What of those who proclaim the Black woman
'Queen' and then argue man is superior to
her because she only possesses 6 & 1/2 ounces
of brain cells?

So what is the standard answer to my questions:
"Brother, these individuals you speak of are
not true 5%'ers." Same bullshit answer I receive
from Christians who claim most whites in the
South who supported slavery were not true
Christians. Same answer I receive from Muslims
who claim those who fly planes into buildings
are not true Muslims. Hypocracy at it's finest.

Can I accept these answers from Muslims, Jews,
and Christians? Maybe. However, when some
sucker claims he is the "Cream of the planet
earth" and tells me to call him by some outer
space name, yet sells poison to his own brethren,
I say "GTFOH!!!"

If you call yourself god then you are expected to
live your life to a higher standard; to lead by
example. Are there NGE members that do this?
Yes. But in all my years, I can literally count
on my extremities the number who actually practice
what they preach.

How is this my business? Don't come at me like
some fanatical Jehovah's Witness, trying to
shove your beliefs down my throat, or ask me
to call you "Islam Born Universal", and fail
to live up to the values you espouse. Don't
claim you love your brethren and then turn
around destroy your community with filth and
poison.

You see, rather than patronize and placate
people on this board, like a good, white
liberal, I'm gonna get in your ass if you
are just talking without walking. Expertise
once said whites on this board have no balls
because they're afraid to loose a "down by
law" popularity contest, and speak their
minds. Well, the buck stops with me.

The NGE must address the problems I underscored,
or it will continue to be perceived as some fringe
cult/gang. It will continue to be perceived
this way -- not by "grafted devils from the
Isle of Patmos -- but by it's racial brethren.

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104. "I respect the HELL out of what you just wrote!"
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and then again, perhaps you can understand why some
of us seem so "angry" because we have to go out here
and dispell what all these illiterate people that is using our
Name, are teaching or advocating.
Peace.

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106. "Peace to you."
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And at the risk of coppin
pleas, my intention is not
to insult anyone in this
thread, but I'm saddened and
mad as hell at people (in high
places and on the streets) who
profess to be leaders but do
nothing but misguide those who
are already deaf, dumb, and
blind.

If my rhetoric is harsh, it's
only because my love is strong.

Bless.

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145. "RE: Hold up DRE, I'm not wrong, you just happen to disagree me."
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Tue Oct-18-05 11:32 PM by queenisisdivine

  

          

>The NGE must address the problems I underscored,
>or it will continue to be perceived as some fringe
>cult/gang. It will continue to be perceived
>this way -- not by "grafted devils from the
>Isle of Patmos -- but by it's racial brethren.

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165. "well if it's not ur business"
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it's certainly mine.

i've heard too many tales/seen too many sistas fall for the line only to get dragged under the water and half-drowned.

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169. "Please elaborate."
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>>i've heard too many tales/seen too many sistas fall for the
>line only to get dragged under the water and half-drowned.

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86. "You're an idealist & that's admirable/cool in theory"
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103. "Well, I'll tell ya, I've been accused of the very opposite."
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When I stated to you that mankind
has a responsibility to eradicate
global white supremacy, I'm well
aware that most whites, at least
in the U.S., (not sure about else-
where) have no desire to engage
in this endeavor. Regardless of
this indifference, I still argue
that the problems UNIQUE to the
Black experience REMAIN part and
parcel of a human problem.

Why? Because every social problem
that disproportionatally affects
Black communities, likewise affects
an entire planet.

This is why when a militant brother
says to me: "It's none of your business!"
I fly right back at him and say, "Oh,
yes it is, and here's why..." Now, that
doesn't mean I'm trying to take over
the Nation of Islam or chart a course
for Black liberation, it just means
that I too have a stake in your survival.

Of course, this type of confrontation
seldom happens simply because... most
everybody of the four corners of the
globe love me

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108. "Now when you say stake in Black survival, is that a freudian slip?"
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If Black people had a reciprocal relationship
politically, culturally & economically w/whites
(& any other ethnic group for that matter) from
a perspective of us being in control of & owner-
ship of Land, agricultural industries, importing
& exporting industries, manufacturing clothes etc etc.,

Then your "idealism" would be comprehended in a
tangible/empirical sense....However...

Our relationship w/the whiteman via the Trans-
Atlantic slave trades & The Middle Passage has
always been in servitude of the oppressor/whiteman.

Thusly, I stand firm in saying its none of your
business cause it isn't. Organizations that preach
Black thought, unity, cultural awareness & optimum
mental & physical health does not include the con-
sideration of white people's analysis of who we are sir.

This is where your "idealism/liberalism" comes into play,
cause "naively" you think you can interject your views
on Black affairs as if Race is not an intergral part
of the system. The liberal side of you feels like
what can I do to help these poor Black people who cannot
help themselves?

Does not mean that you do not have astute/relevant info.
in areas of politics, or just world affairs in general...

Just means that WE have to solve OUR own problems...

Also, please do not utilize the NGE members in those
areas of South Jersey as the barometer to gauge our
Nation on National scale sir.


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127. "Response."
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>This is where your "idealism/liberalism" comes into play,
>cause "naively" you think you can interject your views
>on Black affairs as if Race is not an intergral part
>of the system. The liberal side of you feels like
>what can I do to help these poor Black people who cannot
>help themselves?

Honestly, I would agree with this
observation to a broad extent,
simply because I've argued the
same point, in that there have
been times when I've been over-
zealous in lending a helping hand
while disregarding the right of self-
determination of people of African
descent.

At this stage in my life, I'd like to
think that I have a little more dignity
than to perceive Black people as
helpless. If I did hold such a belief,
history would surely invalidate it.

>Just means that WE have to solve OUR own problems...

I can't claim I disagree with that,
however, being aware of a social
problem and doing nothing about
it would be a poor reflection of
my personal character.

If there are people of African descent
who wish not to permit me to join a
certain orginization or movement, I
see nothing wrong with that at all.
In fact, it may very well be perceived
as an affirmation of self-empowerment
on the part of "oppressed" people(s), w
who wish to shape their own destiny.

>Also, please do not utilize the NGE members in those
>areas of South Jersey as the barometer to gauge our
>Nation on National scale sir.

Without sufficient evidence, I'd gather
it would be a difficult task to do this
on a national scale, which is why I em-
phasized that I call it as I see it.

Further, I'm fairly certain that you're
cognizant of this problem and that it
is not isolated to South Jersey. Since
I have little interest in the internal
affairs of the NGE, I have no idea if
this matter has been addressed. I can
assert with confidence that it has proven
to be a hell of a problem and has done
great damage to the NGE's reputation
in Monmouth County over the years.

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166. "i can tell u"
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Tue Oct-25-05 09:30 AM by LexM

  

          

>Also, please do not utilize the NGE members in those
>areas of South Jersey as the barometer to gauge our
>Nation on National scale sir.

a lot of the ones in baltimore are just about as bad.

it's everywhere.

i'm really beginning to think that it's ppl like you and dre-allah who are in the minority. 'cause i come across a lot more of the ones hochigrimm mentioned.

the ones who are "cool" i never know are a part of the nation until they tell me.

maybe it's just that your most vocal brethren are also the ones in need of further instruction? i dunno.

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171. "What"
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Tue Oct-25-05 04:43 PM by ya Setshego

  

          

do U mean? They R in the minority b/c they aren't hooligans? Or they R
the minority b/c they are more literal in their interpretation of the Lessons than the typical person in the NGE?

>>i'm really beginning to think that it's ppl like you and
>dre-allah who are in the minority. 'cause i come across a lot
>more of the ones hochigrimm mentioned.
>
>the ones who are "cool" i never know are a part of the nation
>until they tell me.

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76. "Question for Allah..."
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> as long as it improves
>the mental and physical powers, and doesn't involve
>spook worship.



Would you consider worshipping yourself a form or "spook worship"?


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79. "we don't advocate worship"
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therefore, how is your question relevant?

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88. "it seems inseperable from..."
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...considering yourself divine.

What is there that is higher then you original man? And where did you come from?

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91. "there is no mystery god or being superior to the Original Man"
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there is no other being invisible, imaginary, or otherwise superior to
the Black Man and his Intellect and ability to manifest
Civilization.
You can look at other places in this thread where I have said this.

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101. "this original man..."
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... where did he come from?



I'm not asking for a locale. I'm asking "from what did he come"?



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114. "RE: this original man..."
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>... where did he come from?


Where did your God come from?

  

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126. "He is eternal. n/m."
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140. "RE: He is eternal. n/m."
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Well, that seems to be the same thing the 5%ers say about the black man.

  

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150. "thankfully..."
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... their claim is entirely falsifiable huh.


I mean.... he dies.


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152. "procreation and education is how we are Eternal"
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we pass on our mentality and physicality to our children.
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160. "look again.."
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>we pass on our mentality and physicality to our children.
>That is how we have no beginning nor ending. Peace.

No...
If anything, that could only explain how you have no "ending".

It does not, however, explain how you have no "beginning". I'm anxious to hear.


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161. "conservation of energy/momentum, and soon, "information""
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as far as "information conservation" being formalized
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162. "RE: look again.."
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>>we pass on our mentality and physicality to our children.
>>That is how we have no beginning nor ending. Peace.
>
>No...
>If anything, that could only explain how you have no
>"ending".

You're the one who put the focus on "ending," when you said "he dies."

>It does not, however, explain how you have no "beginning".
>I'm anxious to hear.

Wait, why is beginning any different than ending here? The idea is that you're mixing up cultures and individuals.



(Just for the record, in case it isn't obvious, I'm not a 5%er, and the entire idea seems completely silly to me. But for InVerse to be calling somebody else's beliefs falsifiable ... I guess I just enjoy the irony.)

  

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116. "from his father and mother"
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125. "and they? n/m"
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87. "QUESTION: Do y'all belive in the story of Yacub?"
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or is that just NOI?

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93. " we KNOW (not "believe") white people was made from black people"
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through eugenics

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95. "do you take the story literally? n/m"
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I know the approximate dates and times for the eugenics
is accurate though to strengthen the output of that
population from the Original People. Yacob is just a LABEL
that means supplanter, that doesn't mean the dude or community
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100. "Islam does NOT mean peace."
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salaam is peace in arabic.

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7. "What power does the black man have that the white man doesn't? n/m"
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8. "White people can't make black babies"
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Black People can create ALL babies, Black Brown Yellow White Red etc.

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15. "is that all? n/m"
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16. "concentration of mental and physical powers per mass/volume"
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it's greater in Original People (but highly underdevoped) as opposed
to caucasian white people. The same thing that happened
with wolves -> dogs, jungle cats -> domesticated cats,
"wild" horses -> domesticated donkeys and mules and so forth.
whenever you graft from the original you usually reduce the per
mass/volume biological fortitude of the new organism.
Don't get me started on Indians and Asians performance in
post secondary school academic vs. their white caucasian
counterparts. I went to Purdue, did the knowledge to Fermilab,
and other graduate and post doc physics programs. In addition
contributions of work in the field from Indians and Asians
or other original people that did not undergoe forced transplantation
from international lands to the states. Look at the
bodies of work of some of these PREMIERE physicists
Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar - Astrophysics and Black Holes
http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/990107/chandrasekhar.shtml
Michio Kaku - Quantum Field Theory - String Theory - Mathematics
http://www.mkaku.org/

Let alone Original
People being the Progenitors of Civilization, and formalizing
Science and Mathematics into an organized system.

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36. "yeah, that Einstein guy's concentration of mental powers was really poor"
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"Einstein wasn't doper than Newton, and Newton was in the "fraternities""


  

          

i.e. Alchemy i.e. Hermeticism which is preserved
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38. "Einstein wasn't doper than Newton, and Newton was in the "fraternities""
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i.e. Alchemy i.e. Hermeticism which is preserved
forms of knowledge of the Nile Valley people used in
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59. "Newton was even whiter than Einstein & believed in a spook god"
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and alchemy is a load of bunk.

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62. "you can't be in those societies of the Enlightment and believe ..."
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in no spook god. You was in those socieites because you know
the Wise Man from the East (Black Man) is the Grand Architect
of the Universe. Literal alchemy is bullshit, but the
things it symbolizes is NOT bullshit.

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63. "Newton was DEEPLY religious"
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton%27s_religious_views

>Literal alchemy is bullshit, but the
>things it symbolizes is NOT bullshit.

Newton believed in literal alchemy.

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65. "you are more folish than I thought"
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of course a 10% rich slave maker of the poor Devil like
Newton is going to advocate that Religion is responsible,
because he is trying to Conceal the True and Living God,
but at the same time "trying to discover hidden messages within the Bible" so he knows that shit ain't all literal, like you
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75. "RE: you are more folish than I thought"
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Folish? School me Allah.

  

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89. "you're more delusional than I thought"
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>of course a 10% rich slave maker of the poor Devil like
>Newton is going to advocate that Religion is responsible,
>because he is trying to Conceal the True and Living God,

So the fact that he clearly professed a strong belief in a supernatural god really means that he didn't believe it? Yeah ok. By that logic, you advocating the black man is god means that you really believe in a spook god and are trying to conceal its true supernatural nature.

>but at the same time "trying to discover hidden messages
>within the Bible" so he knows that shit ain't all literal,
>like you
>are trying to advocate.

So I guess that's why he said "I have a fundamental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by those who were inspired."?

And Kabbalists and many Christian evangelicals look for that bible code stuff too, I guess that means they don't really believe in the bible either.

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134. "40th Black...lemme say this w/out sounding argumentative..."
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Newton was in the "fraternities", and "illuminated" himself, involved in the secret societies. Sure, the comcensus was that he might have been "deeply religious", but when you are part of a fraternal order, especially back then, your real, true self is shrouded. An oath to a fraternal order takes priority over ANY other oath you can, or may take.

Why would Newton be "deeply religious" when these fraternal orders have degrees that don't advocate these "spook gods" themselves? These orders withhold information from the general public, and non-members, and have evolved into occultic "old boy" clubs over the years.

Being that Newton WAS a member of a fraternal order, especially someone as prestigious as him, how could we seriously evaluate his "religious spirituality" that can be quickly linked on an internet website. It's safe to assume it's closer to Washington's cherry tree story than actual truth.

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137. "what "fraternities" was he a member of exactly?"
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is this a fact or just speculation?

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39. "Einstein wasn't doper than Newton, and Newton was in the "fraternities""
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i.e. Alchemy i.e. Hermeticism which is preserved
forms of knowledge of the Nile Valley people used in
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23. "RE: is that all? n/m"
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there's much much more. just to name one, black people's pennial gland is active. the white man's is not.

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27. "all people have the potential to produce melatonin"
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from the pineal gland. It just depends on the rate and distribution
of time of production. Also the rates of calcification of
the gland in different ethnicities. Caucasian white people
have a pineal gland too and it does produce melatonin.
The rate though, you will have to discern between different
ethnicities. Incidentally, are you in the Nation?
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29. "RE: all people have the potential to produce melatonin"
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i am indeed.

haven't studies shown that the rate at which melatonin is produced is significantly lower, in some cases, none at all, in the white people?

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31. "It produces melanin much like the starting of an exhausted engine"
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which is where freckles come from. The melanin is distributed through tiny packets in the body, at the time of birth, and shortly after...sometimes while in the womb, but not often. Freckles are merely where the packets have exploded, simply giving that specific spot color. That's why the sun makes freckles darker, even though the rest of the body might burn.

I can't recall the name or the spelling of the packets...melanisomes/melanicites? Something like that. Apparently, Caucasians blood carries empty packets, the majority carrying little, or any melanin. In caucasians, freckles are a very common occurence, but it's not taught that these freckles are merely unequal distribution of a chemical that is equally distributed in roughly 90-95% of the world's population. Melanin is a natural checmical with natural properties, so for it to be distributed so unevenly, in an almost unnatural way, shows something. What? I guess that's up to you to figure out.

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35. "the simple fact that any of them can produce at all / sources"
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shows that they have an "active pineal gland" too, which
was what I was trying to say.

Sources to support the DIFFERENT levels of production

http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/full/16/8/896
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/prof/sleep/sleep-04.htm

for example.

Look for the word "caucasian"

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13. "The Original Man is everyone is who is not white"
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There are 16 shades of Blackness.

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14. "actually the "16 shades" on the Sun in our Flag represent"
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1) The Knowledge Equality degree in the 1-40 as far as
"Who are the five percent on the poor part of the planet earth"
2) The process of coming out of darkness into light, or obtaining
a Knowledge of Self from being mentally blind deaf and dumb
3) The polarity of Building Civilization and Destroying Devilishment.
4) The direction and rotation of ones cipher or
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43. "damn, that's dope..."
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i never knew what that part meant..
i like the whole flag though..
far better than a lifeless cross...

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45. "the cross used to be a positive symbol...."
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i.e. the "crossroads of decision" and also a decapitated ankh
of life.

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48. "the ankh is life..."
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the cross is life-less..
the cross is missing the female portion that is necessary for life..
(i'm talkin about the christian cross)...

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68. "Nah, the circle at the top of the ankh represents the head"
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Cross = dead piece of wood

ankh = rising/ascending person.

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71. "i've never read nor heard of that anywhere..."
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where'd you hear that??

anybody i've ever heard of or spoken to about the ankh has said that it is a symbol representing the "key to life", which is the male portion, the female portion, and the balance (children) of the two.. i've studied ancient kemetic scripture (asante) and everything points to this...

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20. "i agree with that..."
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the original man is the asiatic black man.. but i would say that part of the 16 shades of blackness would be "albino" or "lacking of melanin" cuz white people developed out of original man/woman.. how else could you argue they came about???

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24. "the black gene was grafted out..."
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From what I was told at a young age, it takes 33 years for a caucasian to be civilized to a muslim son. I don't know if that is outdated information.

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138. "BWT, how would, out of coincedence, an enire race of albinos"
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come about?

Besides giant hands coming down from the clouds and molding white dirt/clay into a cuascian person?

Obviously, something happened.

Take into consideration the belief that caucasians melanin evolved OUT of them after years and years of dwelling in caves. Even THAT isn't enough to completely KICK the melanin out of their body, even IF melanin could be "evolved" out (see Allah's Eskimo comments).

A tribe of people wandering around a mountain area for 1,000 isn't going to drain them of natural pigmentation. If it was possible, it would take much, much longer...if it was possible.

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17. "I'LL GIVE YOU THE REAL ANSWER YOU'RE LOOKING FOR:"
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no, white boy, you can't be down.

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18. "caucasian white people can be in the Five Percent"
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they just wont be called God or Earth.

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19. "i'm not sayin i want to be 5%er..."
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i'm not part of any organized spiritual group..
i consider myself a spiritual person..
different religions ranging from buddhism, taoism, the i-ching, the nation of gods & earths, few scriptures in chritianity and even the astrological zodiac speaks to me..

i have madd respect for 5%ers.. regardless of what i'm supposed to do or not, i refer to my brothers as gods or 7'z.. cuz that's what i see them as, they create life.. or i call them "Sun cuz they shine like one".. i find real value in studying mathematics and the 120 lessons.. i just wanted to see what ya'll thought about that...

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21. "we prefer the term Science or Scientific instead of "spiritual""
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We deal with the Mental and Physical world, as opposed a none
existent or illusionary "spiritual" (read SPOOK) world.
The word spirit means Breath or Air, so the original context for
that word is for what ever provides LIFE, and we teach that life
is Mental and Physical, not "ethereal" or "invisible" or "other worldly"
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25. "so there's no belief in the metaphysical???"
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as in a life force that binds all things??
i know that the nation uses supreme mathematics to explain man's relationship to the universe, but there are obviously certain areas where physics/science fails to uncover the truth...

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26. "I don't believe in metaphysics, I know Physics though"
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what other forces are you trying to acknowledge besides
gravity, electromagneticweaknuclear, and nuclearforces?
List them and I will show you that it is either an illusion
or can be drawn up into one of the above forces described.
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42. "wheres the humility???"
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no offense sun, but be humble.. mankind is just one step of the evolutionary process.. there has always been life in the UNIverse, and there will be long after mankind is gone.. the fact that the UNIverse is limit-less, ie, infinite goes to show that it is much greater than our limited minds can ever comprehend..

physics and science can only explain so much..
science is dated..
today the earth is the center of the UNIverse..
tomorrow, the UNIverse is constantly expanding and earth is just one small element of our galaxy, which there are billions of throughout the entire cosmos..

all i'm sayin is that when i look at the sky at night, i see allah, the most high, god.. i see somethin greater than I.. i don't see a scientific explanation for it becuz i feel like science knows 1% of the whole equation...

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44. "I am not mankind, I am MAN and you didn't answer my question"
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all you did is display an emotional tangent of how
you feel helpless and powerless in the Universe.
I am Allah, I don't have that attitude. The only humility
I show is to somebody that is helping my Babies/Seeds
strengthen their mental and physical powers. You
obviously don't have that ability for some reason.
So you can't name a phenomena that can't be drawn up
into the physical sciences, or you don't want to get embarassed?
hmmmmmmmmm.

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47. "hold up..."
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first of all, let's not make this a competition of how much "abilities" you have vs. the abilities i have.. i got respect for you, and i have shown that.. so be reciprocal..

and i have the ability to strengthen both my mental and physical powers.. i just am different than you in that i am a spiritual person.. i believe in somethin greater than the Original Man or mankind or human beings.. i believe in a higher power, the most high, god, allah, etc..

as far as a phenomena that can't be based on physical sciences.. its not about me worrying if i'm gonna get embarassed, cuz first off, i don't get embarassed.. i don't give a fuck about none of ya'll if you wanna be real.. but like i said in the previous response, explain the inifinite in physical science...

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49. "you have respect but you don't give a fuck?"
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doesn't sound mathematical to me.
Please elaborate, what do you mean by "the infinite in physical
science" can you rephrase that question?
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50. "i mean..."
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the infinite.. explain the infinite, using mathematics or physical science..
mathematics is finite.. but pi fucks up all mathematicians..
thats becuz its incomprehensible to the human mind..

and i mean i don't give a fuck what ya'll think, when it comes down to it..
but its all peace & thanks for keepin' the convo goin..
just keep it on a respectful level...

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51. "infinity = any real number / 0"
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that's a mathematical concept. Do you have any
formal training in mathematics or physics?

Also pi = sum over the geometric series 4 X (1/n+1 - 1/n+3)
for n = all non zero integers

everything happens in degrees, regardless of how "infinite"
you may perceive it, and that is how people perceive the
"infinite" in DEGREES.

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52. "doesn't that just equal 0???"
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and i guess 0 is the infinite, becuz 0 goes on forever, like a circle or a cipher.. i still think that is a limited concept of infinity.. what about time & space, as in there is no beginning nor end or either?? do you believe in that?? and if so, how can anyone scientifically explain that??

also, do you believe in any higher power??
i realize that you see Original Man as allah..
but do you believe in a creator???

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54. "did you graduate from highschool?"
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how does any number divided by zero = 0?
shoot 0/0 aint even = 0
the limit as x approaches 0 for x / x = positive infinity

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57. "you can't divide by zero..."
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i guess that's what i meant..
that's what its infinity...

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119. "*pulls out red pen*"
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>how does any number divided by zero = 0?
>shoot 0/0 aint even = 0
>the limit as x approaches 0 for x / x = positive infinity

Actually,

lim_{x->0} x/x = 1

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120. "Proper Education Always Corrects Errors, thanks, this is what I meant"
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what I meant:
the limit as x->0 of x/0 = positive infinity for
all positive real x

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56. "I don't believe a thing, the Black Man is the Creator"
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There is no beginning nor ending to the Universe, so the only
Creation that is exists is Thought, Ideas, Patterns and Organization
and the Black Man is the Father of such activity.
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58. "what about the hourglass nebula???"
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or dinosaurs on earth.. or the farthest reaching galaxies in the UNIverse.. you're telling me that the black man created all that?? and then after billions of years, created himself?? not to sound too cliche, but who created the Original Man???

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64. "The Universe IS the Black Man's Body (family)"
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Intelligence is the ORGANIZATION of elements in the Body (Universe).
Those formations around the star are shaped by the renmant of
it's changing MAGNETIC field which effects the way the ions
in the plasma absorb and re-emit radiation, also on the ROTATION
of the magenetic field as well as the direction of travel of the
overall system. Now dinosaurs, to me, most of those were
AQUATIC animals, not "land" animals, as shown in regards to
the length of the Tyranosourus Rex not being able to reach his both
with that little as arm, so obviously that was used as a method
of propulsion in WATER. Think about the largest organism on the
planet today on the same order of size of the dinosaurs, and
where are they at? (whales). Also think about alligators and
crocodiles and the usefulness of there appendages for PROPULSION
and not manipulation. But yes I am telling you the Black Man
or Original Man created all of that, AND/OR the conditions for
those phenomena to arise. Even Stephen Hawkin's and recognizing
that information held by subatomic particles is not created or
destroyed by black holes (spin, charge, momentum), but that
information and transformed
and conserved after the emmission of the particles from the
quantum mechanical evaporation of the event horizon of the black
hole, via what medium? LIGHT, which is in reality the medium
by which the predominate patterns in the Universe is organized
through the Electro Magnetic Force Field which the photon is
the mitigating particle of that Field. That is why in days of old
Light was synomous with Knowledge and Thought, because it is the
medium by which Thought and Information is communicated over
time and space. And in addition to the conservation of energy
of momentum, not only can you destroy Allah The Original Man
you can't destroy his Universe either, especially with all
the spookification and "the beginning of the universe" crap
that people are trying to advocate, which in reality is an
advocation of THEFT, by trying to say that everything came from
"nothing". That's THEIVERY! Everything already existed in one
form or another and the information and energy is reorganized
and re-arranged into the personal and centralized "planet" or
"body" within the Body of the Universe, which is what?
The Black Man's Arm Leg Leg Arm Head (A.L.L.A.H.)
So nobody "created" the Black Man, the Black Man has always
Existed!

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66. "let me end this conversation..."
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becuz we are on two totally different levels and its hard to even communicate the original point..

but i'll say this: i agree that something cannot come from nothing.. the UNIverse has always existed, and always will.. but i believe in a higher power/the most high/allah/god that flows through time & space and spawns life.. i think human beings are just one step in the evolutionary process of life on earth.. i believe in strengthening the mind body & spirit, and utilizing all three dimensions as One.. but i am humble to a greater being that i cannot touch or prove, but i can definitely feel & see its presence in my life..

thank you for the discussion though.. i respect the gods & earths.. i am opening my mind thru Supreme Mathematics and the 120 lessonz.. i just believe in somethin different.. but you seem very intelligent and dedicated to the 5% Way of Life.. peace 7...

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67. "It's not necessary for you to study 120"
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if you are not going to teach it right and exact.
You should just put that down and concentrate on developing
your mental and physical powers how you believe, instead
of trying to incorporate 120 and diluting mixing and
tampering with it, or trying to use your knowledge of
the question and answers to "be down".
That would be the more respectful thing
to do, to just leave it alone, instead of doing it
half ass, and then that way
you and I can still get along and be Peace,
because then you would not be responsible for that Knowledge
and be punished by the circumstances of having access
to the Knowledge but not using it right and exact.

If you want to be on the level with me, you would either
be right, or just leave it alone, instead of sitting on
the fence. There is other things we can Build on with
out you trying to be a "journalist" and "astronomer".
What would you use the 120 for if you don't advocate the
Knowledge and Wisdom of the Original Man. Would you
use it to come amongst us and do trading, so that
we would not expose you as quick, that is, those people
have not undergone that study?

We are not evangelists, we are not recruiting anybody to
be in the Nation or "be down" All we are supposed to do
is teach Civilization to the Human Families of the planet Earth,
i.e. how to eat to live, how to Build Civilization, how to
not fall victim to blood suckers of the poor, how to interact
with people in most settings to preserve Life and Civilization,
and so forth.

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70. "goddamn, man..."
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Sat Oct-15-05 05:19 PM by iLLoGiCz

  

          

first of all, i'll study whatever i want.. your arrogance and ego is really startin to outshine your know1edge and wisdom.. expression is difficult on a keyboard, but i'm gettin nothin but bad karma from you and i've sent nothin but peace and respect..

second of all, nah i ain't trynna be "down" kid.. i don't even know any 5%ers.. i live in louisviLLe kY.. you lucky to find any righteous people, let alone Gods & Earths.. i just find truth in the 120 lessonz, and it is useful know1edge that i agree with (in part).. are you sayin i shouldn't use certain aspects that i feel are right on WITHOUT devoting myself entirely to this way of life?? look at wu-tang!! they kick the 5%er philosophy all the time, but also believe in taoism and the old testament..

i think the nation is righteous.. by studying what i have, and what i will continue to, it helps to further enlighten me with know1edge of Self and helps to explain my relationship to the UNIverse.. if that's somethin you can't get down with, then you do not advocate my mental, physical and spiritual growth, and we are not Peace...

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72. "Taoism is Building and Destroying (balance)"
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the "old testament" though, which ones is advocating
a LITERAL interpretation of the old testament?
Let me know about that.
Plus you don't see me up here "big upping" the
Wu Tang Clan as a Supreme Example of this Nation.
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73. "i know what taoism means..."
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but its an organized spiritual philosophy.. far from the 5%.. do you agree with any aspects of taoism or any other philosophy?? and you didn't really answer my question from the previous post..

and i didn't say they use a "literal" interpretation of the old testament.. but they use scripture in rhymez.. rza, masta killa, meth all do.. plus killah priest, hell razah, and other cats do that also use 5%er terminology...

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80. "please repeat the question"
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117. "RE: please repeat the question"
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why do you believe in such bullshit and waste your time with such shit? Here's a question for you....

why is your screen name Allah?

why have you tried to take Islam and mess with it?

Allah is the almighty, you are just a tool

your beliefs sound like you went into a room with a bunch of books on science, metaphysics, an INTRO TO THE QURAN, black nationalism, chew sticks, a big bag of weed and some PCP...

and you became papa smurf.........

mixed them all together and became who you are now

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118. "u talibans b killin me... happy ramadan nigga...."
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69. "^^^^^ studied in class and didn't do graffiti on his folder^^^^^"
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99. "RE: The Universe IS the Black Man's Body (family)"
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>Intelligence is the ORGANIZATION of elements in the Body
>(Universe).
>Those formations around the star are shaped by the renmant of
>it's changing MAGNETIC field which effects the way the ions
>in the plasma absorb and re-emit radiation, also on the
>ROTATION
>of the magenetic field as well as the direction of travel of
>the
>overall system. Now dinosaurs, to me, most of those were
>AQUATIC animals, not "land" animals, as shown in regards to
>the length of the Tyranosourus Rex not being able to reach his
>both
>with that little as arm, so obviously that was used as a
>method
>of propulsion in WATER. Think about the largest organism on
>the
>planet today on the same order of size of the dinosaurs, and
>where are they at? (whales). Also think about alligators and
>crocodiles and the usefulness of there appendages for
>PROPULSION
>and not manipulation. But yes I am telling you the Black Man
>or Original Man created all of that, AND/OR the conditions
>for
>those phenomena to arise. Even Stephen Hawkin's and
>recognizing
>that information held by subatomic particles is not created
>or
>destroyed by black holes (spin, charge, momentum), but that
>information and transformed
>and conserved after the emmission of the particles from the
>quantum mechanical evaporation of the event horizon of the
>black
>hole, via what medium? LIGHT, which is in reality the medium
>by which the predominate patterns in the Universe is
>organized
>through the Electro Magnetic Force Field which the photon is
>the mitigating particle of that Field. That is why in days of
>old
>Light was synomous with Knowledge and Thought, because it is
>the
>medium by which Thought and Information is communicated over
>time and space. And in addition to the conservation of
>energy
>of momentum, not only can you destroy Allah The Original Man
>you can't destroy his Universe either, especially with all
>the spookification and "the beginning of the universe" crap
>that people are trying to advocate, which in reality is an
>advocation of THEFT, by trying to say that everything came
>from
>"nothing". That's THEIVERY! Everything already existed in
>one
>form or another and the information and energy is reorganized
>and re-arranged into the personal and centralized "planet" or
>"body" within the Body of the Universe, which is what?
>The Black Man's Arm Leg Leg Arm Head (A.L.L.A.H.)
>So nobody "created" the Black Man, the Black Man has always
>Existed!
>
>Peace.



Nice. I'm with this.
I understood the concpet of the Universe being man's body...
I bug on that alot.
Thanks for the add-on as they say.

  

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167. "i believe/understand that"
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>Everything already existed in
>one
>form or another and the information and energy is reorganized
>and re-arranged into the personal and centralized "planet" or
>"body" within the Body of the Universe, which is what?
>The Black Man's Arm Leg Leg Arm Head (A.L.L.A.H.)
>So nobody "created" the Black Man, the Black Man has always
>Existed!
>
>Peace.

everything's energy & all that...

but that doesn't mean there wasn't a creative force involved *beyond* anything we'd refer to as human. or even physical.

the ultimate energy, if you will.

none of you cats make the sun rise.

where's that convo you had with mau777 on all this? i think he broke it down a lot better than i could. i'm more in line with mau...he doesn't appear to advocate any "spookism" any more than you (or i, really) do. but he understands the spirit on a level you appear too literally-minded to see. and no matter who tries to open you to it, you close down.

consequently, this is one of the ways i consistently see "gods" fall into a eurocentric/westernized worldview without even realizing it. i'm sure you've come across the african notions/knowledge regarding space/time/spirit.

i could get into how this is also indicative of a way of life formulated without the equal and noted input of the (divine) feminine, but that's a digression i won't deal in right now.

just 'cause science can explain it doesn't mean something (no, not the blk man) didn't create science.

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170. "If not here,"
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>>i could get into how this is also indicative of a way of life
>formulated without the equal and noted input of the (divine)
>feminine, but that's a digression i won't deal in right now.

Y not explore it w/in another post?

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172. "making the sun rise"
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The planet Earth rotates, that's how the Sun Rises,
the same way a females emotional dynamic will bring
about different attitudes she will have toward a male
in small medium and large epochs of her relationship with
the male.

What do you think is causing "the sun to rise" a mystery god?
If so, can the mystery god demonstrate some kind of mystical
influence by "making the sun stop rising"? You ain't going to
find no such thing doing that. Everything operates thru
Mathematics, applied, Supreme, or otherwise.

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173. "Please read this book"
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www.houseofnubian.com/IBS/SimpleCat/Product/asp/hierarchy/010J/product-id/630989.html - 24k -

$29.95 @ Everyone's Place. It goes hand-n-hand w/ Carol Barnes' melanin book. Lex M, you're not going 2 change his mind, any more than the best part will change mine. The best we can hope 4, is understanding of each other's different viewpoints, & acceptance of one another, in spite of those differences.

>> Everything operates thru
>Mathematics, applied, Supreme, or otherwise.

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110. "Anything divided by 0 is undefined"
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not Infinity. 0 divided by anything is 0.


>>that's a mathematical concept. Do you have any
>formal training in mathematics or physics?
>
>Also pi = sum over the geometric series 4 X (1/n+1 - 1/n+3)
>for n = all non zero integers
>
>everything happens in degrees, regardless of how "infinite"
>you may perceive it, and that is how people perceive the
>"infinite" in DEGREES.
>
>Peace.

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33. "Anything that cannot be seen, touched, or proven is spook"
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Life forces can be described in so many ways, in so many manners...why acknowledge something that cannot be pinpointed into something factual? It might be your belief, but that doesn't make it so. It might be a life-force, or karma, or spirits, etc... these are just different explanations, or theories...why try and place an emphasis on something with such a loose foundation?

It's grasping at the same state of mind that caused the primative spook gods in the first place.

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41. "i'm not talkin about somethin "imaginary"..."
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i'm sayin somethin that is real but that is beyond our mental grasp becuz we are not on the level to understand the universal energy that has ALWAYS been around and WILL always be around.. science doesn't have the ability to explain the infinite dimensions of space, just as mathematics cannot explain pi or infinite...

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46. "Man is the Mentality that has always exist and will continue to exist"
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why you trying to mystify it? Man means Intelligence.
Intelligence has always existed, and Man' Brain and Body
is the current form of Supreme Intelligence and Locomotion
that I express myself as.

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37. "but there's nothing scientific about it"
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53. "Not trolling"
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He's right, there's nothing scientific about religion.

  

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55. "who is advocating religion?"
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90. "Yakub is spook story"
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hence you are advocating religion.

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surely you jest.

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94. "they did, but not through grafting by some bigheaded evil scientist(s)"
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97. ""he" wasn't evil nor "big-headed", just a regular Scientist/Community"
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it wasn't just a single guy, it was a community of people influenced
by an idea to make something "new". Don't buy into what white
people is saying about what the muslims of the Nation of Islam
are teaching. They are just SENSATIONALIZING the teachings
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111. " "he" is a myth"
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>it wasn't just a single guy, it was a community of people
>influenced
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I know that's what you believe, which is why I said "scientist(s)" (as in plural)

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115. "let me rephrase: black people creating yt by grafting is an untrue story"
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121. "Eskimoes in Alaska, white mice from brown field mice"
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snow and cold doesn't turn black people into white people
otherwise eskimoes would have turned into white people.
selective breeding produced white laboratory mice from field mice,
same selective breeding that happened in producing white people
from black people.

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131. "Apologies for interrupting again 40."
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>snow and cold doesn't turn black people into white people
>otherwise eskimoes would have turned into white people.
>selective breeding produced white laboratory mice from field
>mice,
>same selective breeding that happened in producing white
>people
>from black people.

The error in your reasoning is to think that you are refuting an apparent notion that the colder the weather gets, the whiter the skin becomes.

I don't think anybody actually believes that.

(I would guess that the long term effect of extremes of cold weather is similar to longterm effects of hot weather).

  

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136. "did you guys invent polar bears too?"
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>snow and cold doesn't turn black people into white people
>otherwise eskimoes would have turned into white people.

No, because Inuits had diets based on fish and seal/whale blubber, which are rich in vitamin D. Therefore Inuits didn't need to develop light skin to produce vitamin D as white people in northern European latitudes did.


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139. "So a fish diet prevented their melanin from being evolved out?"
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Hmmmm...

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168. "there is a ton of anthropological evidence"
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y'all seem to like to gloss over.

weather/climate/diet/etc ALL made a difference

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22. "RE: I'LL GIVE YOU THE REAL ANSWER YOU'RE LOOKING FOR:"
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>no, white boy, you can't be down.


hehehehe...

  

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105. "I think alot of this is interesting and all but where is the"
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utilitarian value in it if the average
layman can't grasp it, or help him
put food on the table?

Shit, I'm a fairly intelligent human
being, but if I attempted to decipher
a fraction of this science/culture,
I'd have a headache for days.

Come around my way, or should I say
let's travel back to '89 before the
"culture" around Monmouth County
was eradicated by SWAT teams. What
would you find? Sixteen and seventeen
year olds on corners, beating their
brains out, trying to figure out what
the hell their "Enlightener" was talk-
ing about (e.g., convoluted discussions
regarding atomic particles, Supreme Math-
ematics, & LL Cool J TROOP sneakers). This
one kid I knew was so confused, he went from
"dropping science" to becoming a Nuwaubian.

All the while, there's mad work to be done
in the community, years before 1998, the
year Mexicans immigrants and white, homo-
sexual bohos began moving in, gobbling up
pieces of the local economy that hadn't
already been snatched up by Korean merchants
peddling sneakers and African medallions.

You see, I look at results, and frankly the
NGE hasn't accomplished all that much around
these parts. Simply because those young heads
who were once so fascinated with such esorteric
rhetoric (they never quite fully grasped in the
first place), are now more concerned with feeding
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107. "how effective are they are feeding there families?"
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that's more important than being "space cadet gods"
Peace.

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128. "It's been difficult, DRE."
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129. "RE: It's been difficult, DRE."
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It hurts my feelings to
type all the stuff I
wrote, because I know
how proud you are to
be a member of the
NGE culture.

I can only go by what
I've seen aroud here.

I hope things get better.

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109. "How come people bait 5%'rs under the guise of 'trying to learn'"
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or understand them.

If white people want to know whether or not 5%'s consider them the devil, and they want to voice their concern for that, then just say so. Whenever someone, who'se not a 5%, makes a post...no matter the tone, it ALWAYS...ALWAYS turns into a "Why/How come/How the HELL ________ white people are the devil????"- post.

Forget the mathematics, forget everything else the Nation advocates/teaches/represents...people just want to be up in arms about the whole white people/devil thing. Even though 5% doesn't advocate "spook gods", people still LOOK through "spook god" glasses when the "white people/devil" thing comes up, and rant and rave because they believe 5% are calling them little satan children, and they belong in a firey hell with all the other little goat-legged bamophets.

All 5% posts should be renamed "white people get their sensitive on" post, and yes, I'm white/caucasian.

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113. "I know"
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I simply can't imagine why white people would have a problem with that.

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122. "i hope none of this is directed towards me..."
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i made the original post out of a quest for know1edge..

i don't know any 5%ers in my community, so this is the best medium to discuss certain aspects of the Nation with them.. after studying various texts about the lifestyle and philosophy of 5%ers, i grew interested.. i think the 120 lessonz & use of Supreme Mathematics is on point.. its somethin i feel..

i could give a fuck if they think that the white man is the devil (which is entirely untrue).. i ain't sensitive to that cuz 1) it wouldn't mean anything to my life personally and 2) i ain't biggin up the white man.. shit, i understand the Nature of the Threat.. since whites first began to develop as a so-called "race", they have been the root of many evils on this planet...

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135. "WHy wouldn't the white man be the devil?"
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If you look at it like a 5%.

If the Black man is God, and white people were grafted FROM that god into something compltely unnatural? I'm not advocating it, but people take so much offense.

Like I said, just 'cause they're saying your a devil...your using the "spook god" image to think "They're saying I'm pure evil and I should be in a firey hell". They're not saying that at all.

Your thinking "Hey, I helped an old lady down the street the other day, so I KNOW I'm not an evil devil".

It always comes back to that.

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149. "shit bruh, i ain't thinkin' none of that..."
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you obviously aren't reading or just aren't thinking..

i'm trynna tell you.. the 5%ers can think however they want.. but it doesn't bother me.. personally, i know i am a God (7, yang, One with the Cosmos), strivin to live a righteous life by 'destroying devilishment' and focusing on revolution, both individually and communally..

as far as white people on a whole, i somewhat agree.. i don't really believe in a 'devil' creating a white race, but i see the evils that follow the legacy of whites on this planet...

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153. "I don't care if you as a white person call your self god, however..."
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just know that you didn't get that teaching from The Nation.
I'd rather you as a caucasian white person
have a god complex and be honest, and not advocate
a mystery god, than lie like most "educated" white people and
say "well there is an invisible god, and he is greater than people,
and his children are white people, but he is invisible, and you
should be like white peo. I mean like his children if you want to
live in some spook life after death"

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154. "whats your problem kidd???"
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i don't have a god complex..
i don't believe in an invisible god..
i don't big-up white people..
white people are not children of god..
if there is a devil, white people are more likely children of that than anything else (look at the historical context)..

i call myself and my brothers god (lower case) cuz we are reflections of the most high.. there's nothing invisible about that; look outside, look in the sky.. THAT'S GOD.. i didn't get that teaching from the Nation, nor did i claim i did.. i am not a 5%er.. i am not a buddhist.. i am not a taoist, a christian, an "intellectual" or a scientist.. i am iLL.. and i bear witness that life is iLL..

enough of all the hate sun...

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155. "I wasn't hating, however, white people came from somewhere..."
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if not God (Black Man and his family)
then who did white people come from? hmmmmmmmmm

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159. "i agree with that..."
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i believe the Original Man was the Black Asiatic Man.. thru years of evolution, other races developed from the Original, including of course caucasian whites..

what i'm referring to by "hating" is how you constantly assume shit about me, trying to place me in a box.. tryin to tell me that i'm studyin the Five Percenters to "be down" or to be a "journalist".. most of the responses you have made towards me are incredibly arrogant and disrespectful..

I AM NOT A 5%er.. I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE NATION..
callin' my sunz "god" or "7" is not perpetration; its witness to the divine..
don't act like the Nation is the first to do so either.. Taoism recognizes the Yin as Earth or the female, and the Yang as Heaven or the male.. the Metu Neter describes the different spears as gods.. different kemetic, greek, and asian religions have used similar terminology.. my interest in the Nation is purely for the 120 lessons cuz i feel it helps to guide my mental, physical and spiritual growth...

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123. "mofo, please shut up...."
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>or understand them.

>If white people want to know whether or not 5%'s consider them
>the devil, and they want to voice their concern for that, then
>just say so. Whenever someone, who'se not a 5%, makes a
>post...no matter the tone, it ALWAYS...ALWAYS turns into a
>"Why/How come/How the HELL ________ white people are the
>devil????"- post.

Illogicz post had nothing to do with this. CHECK THE QUESTIONS:

do you consider yourself a follower of the ways of islam??
do you think the nation of gods&earths is only for black men and women??
do you follow any other religious/spiritual teachings??

THESE ARE LEGIT QUESTIONS.....and our okayer named Allah couldn't answer the first one in any coherent way....he blubbed something about adherring to islam because it means peace...uh-huh. islam means to submit, i think he's got to step away from homeboys from outer space for a sec and read a quran....(however, islam is one of brotherhood, solidarity and peace)



>Forget the mathematics, forget everything else the Nation
>advocates/teaches/represents...people just want to be up in
>arms about the whole white people/devil thing. Even though 5%
>doesn't advocate "spook gods", people still LOOK through
>"spook god" glasses when the "white people/devil" thing comes
>up, and rant and rave because they believe 5% are calling them
>little satan children, and they belong in a firey hell with
>all the other little goat-legged bamophets.
>
>All 5% posts should be renamed "white people get their
>sensitive on" post, and yes, I'm white/caucasian.

huh?
all 5%ers i know are hypocrites. They are all wannabe muslims that don't want to have to change their lifestyles (drinking, smoking, womanizing, NOT HAVING TO LOOK LIKE A MUSLIM), but they want to be DOWN for something. And they want it to have their own spin on it--ala black man--allah

and this post reeks of Allah(the poster, or should i say, poser) trying to sell his beliefs, or push his beliefs. chack what he said earlier about seeing all shades. Go to your local masjid, and you will see just that. i wonder what these 5ers think about the hajj?

anyway, Illogicz was just being curious and asking legit questions. If anything, dudes on this board are defensive because people like me calling them on it.

this has nothing to do with the white man being the devil stuff.....and if thats what you think, don't believe the hype....it has to be with the perception of WHAT DO THEY BELIEVE IN AND WHY.

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124. ""....this post reeks of Allah.....""
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"YO HOMEBISCUIT!" can I used that in my sig????!!! (j/k)

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130. "RE: mofo, please shut up...."
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>all 5%ers i know are hypocrites. They are all wannabe muslims
>that don't want to have to change their lifestyles (drinking,
>smoking, womanizing, NOT HAVING TO LOOK LIKE A MUSLIM), but
>they want to be DOWN for something. And they want it to have
>their own spin on it--ala black man--allah

I see where you're coming
from but Allah's been
sharing his knowledge
with us and for that I'm
greatful.

I'm learning new things,
even though I don't under-
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If you're not understanding then you're
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133. "The ORIGINAL post was very clear, and concise..."
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but oif course, without fail, it mutated into "Why I gotta be a devil?"-rhetoric.

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141. "What's the 5%er take on evolution?"
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In particular, the idea that man evolved from ape-like creatures/a common decedent of apes.

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142. "The common ancestor of man and ape is.... MAN!"
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Darwin never taught that people come from monkeys, he only taught
that people and monkeys have a common ancestor. So there is no
such thing as turning a monkey from today into a "man". However
you have seen the reverse happen, especially on a psychological
level, where people become "like apes". Peace.

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143. "RE: The common ancestor of man and ape is.... MAN!"
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>Darwin never taught that people come from monkeys, he only
>taught
>that people and monkeys have a common ancestor. So there is
>no
>such thing as turning a monkey from today into a "man".

So how do you explain the finding of all the old bones of ape-like creatures that apeared to evolve into man? How come nobody has ever found bones of man that are as old as the boes they find of ape-like creatures.

>However
>you have seen the reverse happen, especially on a
>psychological
>level, where people become "like apes". Peace.

Are you saying that physically, a man can evolve into an ape? How does this occur?

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144. "Wait a minute... Statue of Liberty... that was *our* planet!"
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You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! Damn you all to hell!!!

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146. "No Respect, No Love, Idiots replying to serious discussion!"
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I would just like to know why is it that every time two people try to have an intelligent dialogue, a fuckin idiot always shows up and starts making stupid ass jokes. Reminds me of some of the kids I have in my class. Plus I would like to add where is the respect at On this post period. Dispite all that I feel I learned something today.
10% of the people run shit
85% of the people are lost like flight 815 "LOST"
and
5% of the people have a lot of work to do

PEACE TO ALL INTELLIGENT PEOPLE ON THIS POST-you know who you are.
I'm out

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147. "this is not a serious discussion"
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show me a serious discussion with intelligent dialogue, and I'll refrain from the jokes.

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148. "RE: No Respect, No Love, Idiots replying to serious discussion!"
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Is this a phenomenon you've noticed since 5th October?

With respect, you have to understand the context within which these jokes are made.

  

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Knowledge5
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151. "Time and place"
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When someone is trying to actually learn something, I dont think it is a time to be joking. I just think it kinda broke the cipher up as I was reading the thread. But whateva. Peace to all my peeps in LOUISVILLE,KY.

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156. "TRUE ISLAM'S WEBSITE"
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http://www.theblackgod.com/motherplane.htm

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158. "He is not in the Nation of Gods and Earths, he's a muslim with Farrakhan"
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174. "RE: He is not in the Nation of Gods and Earths, he's a muslim with Farra..."
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I've been away from this board for some time only to come back to see the same people doing the same things.....Interesting.

Allah....First off let me say PEACE

Secondly, if I'm not mistaken you and this brother True Islam have had numerous discussions and battles regarding the lessons, Bro. 13X (Father), the Universal Flag and whether or not the ALLAH TEAM was indeed 5% or NGE? Am I correct unless I have you identity mistaken?

You say he is a Muslim with Farrakhan, however you dont mean in the N.O.I. as a registered believer correct?




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157. "A persons ways and actions define who they are...."
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righteousness is something that is found within all people from all walks of life. in past years, when AmeriKKKa was still "seperate but equal", whites thought and still think that they are superior to all races. For an Asiatic Man to define himself as divine and commit blasphemy against himself by, selling drugs, drinking liquor and other things that would be deemed "uncivilized" goes against the natural order of nature. So to ask what a person is, I am Wisdom-Build physically, i make my living by trying to be a righteous as possible but sometimes i do fail. I think religion becomes dangerous when it becomes religion or "binding" and not a way of life, because we can argue all day about The Creator and this and that, but unless one is truly living according to what is morally right inside one should not judge another persons exterior....The movement should not have died with King and Brother Malcolm but i think we have regressed. Lets try to close the gap between ignorance and single parent families, we as blacks have suffered enough..I Study Life And Mathematics.not NGE nor 5% just existing .Peace Black Men and Women,

  

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