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spenzalii
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"Motorsport 2019 - Green, green, green, go, Go, GO!"


  

          

NASCAR started off their season with more than half the field wrecked. Congrats to Denny Hamlin for winning the war of attrition. Formula 1 testing has begin, with the season starting in about 3 weeks. Ferrari has come out the gates hot with Vettel and Leclerc topping the time sheets the past 2 days. Mercedes seems not interested in speed as both Bottas and Hamilton have been mid pack at best to just above the bottom at worst.I anticipate the wick being turned up quite a bit next week. Big questions for me this year:

- Will Honda and Red Bull be able to legitimately challenge for the title with Ferrari and Mercedes, or does this year become a 2 horse race?
- Can Ricciardo pull off the same winning streak as Hamilton did by jumping to Renault? If not, can he at least beat his former team and their golden boy Mad Max?
- Can Sainz help McLaren get off their F2 pace and bring the storied franchise back to respectability?
- Does Haas jump to 4th, making them Best Of The Rest, which would be a win by itself?
- How will Kvyat and Kubica do in their return to the sport?

and most importantly

- What the hell is going on at Williams?

<-- Dave Thomas knows what's up...
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Subject Author Message Date ID
First week of F1 testing done.
Feb 21st 2019
1
Williams. Jesus.
Feb 21st 2019
2
      That crash was just a vortex of crushed metal
Feb 21st 2019
3
Two-wheeled testing going on too!
Feb 25th 2019
4
GP
Feb 25th 2019
5
      RE: GP
Feb 25th 2019
6
Up before this weekend's opener - Interesting points news
Mar 12th 2019
7
The fastest lap bonus shall be known as the "Raikkonnen Point."
Mar 12th 2019
10
Anybody peep the Netflix F1: Drive To Survive series?
Mar 12th 2019
8
going to try to this week
Mar 12th 2019
9
Saw the first episode.
Mar 13th 2019
13
What story lines are we following in F1 this year?
Mar 13th 2019
11
Answers:
Mar 13th 2019
12
Charlie Whiting just died.
Mar 14th 2019
14
We’re off! F1 2019 is live.
Mar 17th 2019
15
Congrats to Bottas 2.0. 1st win of the season and fastest lap
Mar 17th 2019
16
Ugh.
Mar 17th 2019
17
I both want and don't want Mercedes dominance lol
Mar 18th 2019
18
*crackling comms voice* "P-3 P-3"
Mar 18th 2019
19
      Question is that sustainable
Mar 18th 2019
20
           I think the battle for 3 is between Haas and RB
Mar 18th 2019
21

spenzalii
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1. "First week of F1 testing done. "
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The only thing known for sure is Williams is going to be pretty far behind. At least the car finally got on the track...

Gasley and Leclerc look to have shaken off some early jitters and feel better in their new rides and high pressure teams, but it's still early. Ferrari already looks fast, but they usually do. There's been hand wringing over whether Mercedes was OK, bit they seemed to be doing long run testing this week and only got into faster lap times on the last day of testing (that on the harder tire relative to the fastest lap of the test, which means they still have some speed in the bag)

I expect times to drop a bit more next week and teams show a little more of their hand before Australia.

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Buck
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2. "Williams. Jesus."
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On the plus side, all kinds of teams setting quick times. Might be some interesting names on the podium this year.

I watched Daytona. I have no thoughts.

  

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spenzalii
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3. "That crash was just a vortex of crushed metal"
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https://youtu.be/BP_OPJoszjU

That many cars running 2-3 wide was bound to be a disaster. 21 cars is a lot at one time.

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upUPNorth
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4. "Two-wheeled testing going on too!"
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Fairly interesting results, though I don't know as much about 'how' they test relative to F1 and how big those gaps are, it's cool to see Suzuki at the top trailed by two Yamaha's including a strong rookie performance from Quartararo (Vinales always tests well, he needs to bring that into the season).
Marquez did a lot of laps for someone coming off an off-season injury/shoulder surgery, Honda's all star lineup are both in questionable physical form but they both know how to ride through those things. The KTM being the slowest but only six tenths off the fastest lap is exactly what makes Moto GP exciting these days and hopefully makes for a good season to watch.

Superbike has already started and Bautista stormed their first race weekend after not getting a ride in Moto GP again, record setting win of all three races and might just outclass the field if no one has a response.

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5. "GP"
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I use to love watching GP but too many bikes break away and it's a group of 5 every race. I'd love to see Rossi win one more but that appears to be less and less likely.

Moto2 has become the fun series to follow.

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6. "RE: GP"
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A lot of pieces definitely have to fall in to place for Rossi to win it again, along with him being in peak form, as much as I'd love to see it.

I definitely love watching the lower classes, moto 3 is fun as hell, moto 2 last season honestly seemed a bit less entertaining to me with Bagnaia looking too good a lot of the time (I am an Oliveira fan but can't deny his form). Maybe it will be different with those top guys moving up again.

I feel like Moto GP was worse for that a few years ago, at least recently when people broke away there were at least a couple battling when it really mattered at the front, some kind of dogfight. There was a period where they were so in control of races that they just constantly kept themselves 1 second apart from each other all race and nothing happened.

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7. "Up before this weekend's opener - Interesting points news"
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They are officially implementing a point for fastest lap at each race. Potential 21 points on offer throughout the season. You only get the point if you get the fastest lap and finish in the top 10, though they still consider there to be incentive for someone outside the top 10 to go for it to prevent someone else from getting it (like damage control on a bad day).
Apparently this actually existed back in the 50s or something. I think it's cool, if the Championship is tight, especially towards the end of the season, it could be fun to 'see' that scrap over a point that could decide something even if passing isn't involved.

Moto GP started pretty well this weekend, though I wasn't paying complete attention while watching. Dovi is always so good at Qatar and it always makes me hopeful he'll keep delivering, even knowing I'll have to wait until after Argentina and USA.

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10. "The fastest lap bonus shall be known as the "Raikkonnen Point.""
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spenzalii
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8. "Anybody peep the Netflix F1: Drive To Survive series?"
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I'll finish the series before practice in Melborne. It does suck that Mercedes and Ferrari turned them down, and some of the narratives they set up work better than others. But there are some wonderful bits in the first few episodes I watched that I'm amped if they did another season. It's far from perfect, and doesn't give the full picture of last season, but it's beautifully shot and fills in some mid-field bits, which is fine with me


Not sure how to feel about the fastest lap bonus point.

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9. "going to try to this week"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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13. "Saw the first episode."
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It's fine. Doesn't seem like there's gonna be much a die-hard fan didn't already know, but yeah, the shots are gorgeous.

  

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11. "What story lines are we following in F1 this year?"
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- Can Lewis get to 6 and make it a hat trick, or will the car go up in flames like it did in 2016?
- Can Vettel make the third time the charm and get Ferrari over the hump, or will he make yet another in season mistake that costs him everything?
- Is Charles LeClerc the real deal? can he push Vettel and/or Hamilton for podium wins?
- Who comes out on top in the constructors, Renault or Red Bull?
- More importantly, can Ricciardo snag more points at the end of the season than Mad Max? That would be the sh*t that makes Horner's soul burn slow...
- Can Bottas get a win, or will he be sacked mid season (or at season's end) for Ocon?
- How well will The Iceman do at Alfa?
- Can Haas beat Renault in the constructors?
- Does Torro Rosso step up?
- Does Danny K have the mental fortitude to be competitive again?
- Can Williams manage 10 points at season's end?

<-- Dave Thomas knows what's up...
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12. "Answers:"
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>- Can Lewis get to 6 and make it a hat trick,

Probably.

> or will the car
>go up in flames like it did in 2016?

Nah.

>- Can Vettel make the third time the charm and get Ferrari
>over the hump, or will he make yet another in season mistake
>that costs him everything?

Crashes out of Abu Dhabi, loses by 2 points.

>- Is Charles LeClerc the real deal? can he push Vettel and/or
>Hamilton for podium wins?

Yes.

>- Who comes out on top in the constructors, Renault or Red
>Bull?

Red Bull.

>- More importantly, can Ricciardo snag more points at the end
>of the season than Mad Max? That would be the sh*t that makes
>Horner's soul burn slow...

No.

>- Can Bottas get a win, or will he be sacked mid season (or at
>season's end) for Ocon?

Yes, no.

>- How well will The Iceman do at Alfa?

Top 10 in driver points.

>- Can Haas beat Renault in the constructors?

Yes.

>- Does Torro Rosso step up?

8th.

>- Does Danny K have the mental fortitude to be competitive
>again?

As competitive as the car is.

>- Can Williams manage 10 points at season's end?

No.

  

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14. "Charlie Whiting just died."
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/formula-one-charlie-whiting-dies/4352058/

Formula 1 race director Charlie Whiting has passed away at the age of 66.
A statement from the FIA confirmed that the Briton died from a pulmonary embolism in Melbourne on the eve of the Australian Grand Prix weekend.

FIA president Jean Todt said: “It is with immense sadness that I learned of Charlie’s passing.

"Charlie Whiting was a great Race Director, a central and inimitable figure in Formula One who embodied the ethics and spirit of this fantastic sport.

“Formula 1 has lost a faithful friend and a charismatic ambassador in Charlie. All my thoughts, those of the FIA and entire motor sport community go out to his family, friends, and all Formula One lovers.”

Whiting first worked in Formula 1 for Hesketh Racing in 1977, but was best known for working his way through the ranks at Brabham to become its chief mechanic.

He played a key role in helping Nelson Piquet to the world drivers’ championship in 1981 and 1983 and would stay at the team until it was sold by then owner Bernie Ecclestone in 1988.

He moved to a position as FIA technical delegate, with the blessing of Ecclestone, and then became FIA director and safety delegate from 1997.

His role included overseeing track and car safety, technical and procedural matters on grand prix weekends plus starting the race itself.

Whiting was instrumental in pushing for improved safety standards in F1, and was a driving force behind the introduction of the halo at the start of last year – which was credited with saving the life of Charles Leclerc after his crash at the Belgian Grand Prix.

Speaking last year, Whiting said that a number of technical advances had contributed to making F1 so safe and allowing Leclerc to walk away.

“I agree about the introduction of the halo and that played a part, but you must not forget over the years all the far less visible things that have been done to improve safety of the survival cell, side impact structures, frontal impact structures, strengthen the survival cell itself, high cockpit sides, the headrest,” he said.

“All of those things have been done gradually over the years and they also play a part in the outcome.”

  

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15. "We’re off! F1 2019 is live."
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16. "Congrats to Bottas 2.0. 1st win of the season and fastest lap"
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Valtteri got off to a cracking start and never looked back or worried. Must be the beard...

Hamilton may want to think about not getting pole next season at this track. It hasn't netted him a win in 4 years. Not sure where his pace went after the pit stop, but he didn't seem too worried (at least not PR Hamilton at the post race interview). When asked about covering Max, he dismissively said that was no problem. Ouch.

Good result for Max, but more impressive for Honda. First time a Honda powered car has seen a podium in a decade. Had Horner and RB not have screwed the pooch in quali with Gasley, Ferrari may have had even more to worry about. Speaking of which...

Pornstache and The Clerk weren't in contention at all this race. Albert Park is never a great litmus test, as it's hard to pass on this track (not as bad as, say, Monaco) but to be that far off pace has to have the Tofossi concerned. I heard rumors they had to run the PU a tick lower this race. If so, that's either a blip that they figure out quickly or there are bigger development problems they aren't letting on. Personally, I think it comes down to Vettel's facial hair. Cut the 'stache man...

Other quick thoughts:
- Haas may end up best of the rest. Whether they had the same low power that Ferrari did is unclear
- Sucks to see Ricciardo with a DNF at his home race. His run with Renault didn't start the way he hoped, I"m sure
- Speaking of Renault, with Sainz and Danny retiring I wonder if they are still having PU issues. That wouldn't bode well for the season, though I'm sure C. Horner will be cackling with glee at their misfortunes. At least The Hulk made it 7th
- Norris couldn't make his Q3 run turn into points today. Still, great showing for the rookie
- Welcome back Kvyat. Managed to get the last point on the board

As noted, this isn't the best track to go predicting things. That said, if Mercedes has a car that Bottas can stretch the field by 20 seconds, it's going to be a looooong season for the rest of the field.

See everyone in 2 weeks!

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17. "Ugh."
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>That said, if Mercedes has a car that Bottas can stretch the
>field by 20 seconds, it's going to be a looooong season for
>the rest of the field.

  

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18. "I both want and don't want Mercedes dominance lol"
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Unfortunate for Norris, Giovinazzi screwed up a lot of people's races that day though. Was cool to see Stroll still start well and benefit from that going long, I'm just hype on seeing Canadians do well at stuff (we had an okay weekend for that in other sports).

Ferrari has usually started seasons on the front foot recently so I don't know what to expect from them now. Verstappen's knack for having pace at the end of the race could be more worrying at other tracks.

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19. "*crackling comms voice* "P-3 P-3""
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Red Bull coming in 3rd with the new Honda Engine.
Renault...*price is right fail horns*

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20. "Question is that sustainable"
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If Albert Park is the first and only podium for RB and Honda, great. Assuming Ferrari really did turn down the PU for reasons, RB may not be as close as they were Week 1. Worst case, it shows Max is still opportunistic and may be shaking off some of his old tendencies of driving on the wrong side of the daring/reckless line. Best case we still have a legit 3 team challenge for the 'chip.

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21. "I think the battle for 3 is between Haas and RB"
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I'm not confident in Renault even with Ricciardo.
If Haas ends up being 3rd its because RB couldn't sustain.
Classic RB shooting itself in the foot.

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