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spenzalii
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"Motorsport 2019 - Green, green, green, go, Go, GO!"


  

          

NASCAR started off their season with more than half the field wrecked. Congrats to Denny Hamlin for winning the war of attrition. Formula 1 testing has begin, with the season starting in about 3 weeks. Ferrari has come out the gates hot with Vettel and Leclerc topping the time sheets the past 2 days. Mercedes seems not interested in speed as both Bottas and Hamilton have been mid pack at best to just above the bottom at worst.I anticipate the wick being turned up quite a bit next week. Big questions for me this year:

- Will Honda and Red Bull be able to legitimately challenge for the title with Ferrari and Mercedes, or does this year become a 2 horse race?
- Can Ricciardo pull off the same winning streak as Hamilton did by jumping to Renault? If not, can he at least beat his former team and their golden boy Mad Max?
- Can Sainz help McLaren get off their F2 pace and bring the storied franchise back to respectability?
- Does Haas jump to 4th, making them Best Of The Rest, which would be a win by itself?
- How will Kvyat and Kubica do in their return to the sport?

and most importantly

- What the hell is going on at Williams?

<-- Dave Thomas knows what's up...
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Topic Outline
Subject Author Message Date ID
First week of F1 testing done.
Feb 21st 2019
1
Williams. Jesus.
Feb 21st 2019
2
      That crash was just a vortex of crushed metal
Feb 21st 2019
3
Two-wheeled testing going on too!
Feb 25th 2019
4
GP
Feb 25th 2019
5
      RE: GP
Feb 25th 2019
6
Up before this weekend's opener - Interesting points news
Mar 12th 2019
7
The fastest lap bonus shall be known as the "Raikkonnen Point."
Mar 12th 2019
10
Anybody peep the Netflix F1: Drive To Survive series?
Mar 12th 2019
8
going to try to this week
Mar 12th 2019
9
Saw the first episode.
Mar 13th 2019
13
thought it was really well done.
May 21st 2019
39
What story lines are we following in F1 this year?
Mar 13th 2019
11
Answers:
Mar 13th 2019
12
      1/4 season prediction check
May 21st 2019
41
Charlie Whiting just died.
Mar 14th 2019
14
We’re off! F1 2019 is live.
Mar 17th 2019
15
Congrats to Bottas 2.0. 1st win of the season and fastest lap
Mar 17th 2019
16
Ugh.
Mar 17th 2019
17
I both want and don't want Mercedes dominance lol
Mar 18th 2019
18
*crackling comms voice* "P-3 P-3"
Mar 18th 2019
19
      Question is that sustainable
Mar 18th 2019
20
           I think the battle for 3 is between Haas and RB
Mar 18th 2019
21
Am I a bad person for cackling like a madman for Ferrari's issues?
Mar 31st 2019
22
RE: Am I a bad person for cackling like a madman for Ferrari's issues?
Mar 31st 2019
23
      Man, Lewis Hamilton had no business winning that race.
Apr 01st 2019
24
           ferrari has walked away with a bunch of points on the other end of that
Apr 01st 2019
25
           ^^too early to call this the season swinging race
Apr 03rd 2019
26
F1 1000. Well, that was boring
Apr 14th 2019
27
ferrari got a real situation there
Apr 15th 2019
28
RE: ferrari got a real situation there
Apr 15th 2019
31
One of these years I'll actually watch China live.
Apr 16th 2019
32
      It was tough being up at 2am
Apr 17th 2019
33
MotoGP is off to a crazy start
Apr 15th 2019
29
RE: MotoGP is off to a crazy start
Apr 15th 2019
30
Ferrari Friday, Mercedes Sunday.
Apr 28th 2019
34
It's hard to call
May 03rd 2019
35
      Actually think Ferrari and Haas troubles are linked.
May 03rd 2019
36
Ferrari must be sick. This was Mercedes all weekend
May 12th 2019
37
RBR was always gonna be good in Spain though.
May 13th 2019
38
RIP Niki Lauda.
May 21st 2019
40

spenzalii
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1. "First week of F1 testing done. "
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The only thing known for sure is Williams is going to be pretty far behind. At least the car finally got on the track...

Gasley and Leclerc look to have shaken off some early jitters and feel better in their new rides and high pressure teams, but it's still early. Ferrari already looks fast, but they usually do. There's been hand wringing over whether Mercedes was OK, bit they seemed to be doing long run testing this week and only got into faster lap times on the last day of testing (that on the harder tire relative to the fastest lap of the test, which means they still have some speed in the bag)

I expect times to drop a bit more next week and teams show a little more of their hand before Australia.

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2. "Williams. Jesus."
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On the plus side, all kinds of teams setting quick times. Might be some interesting names on the podium this year.

I watched Daytona. I have no thoughts.

  

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spenzalii
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3. "That crash was just a vortex of crushed metal"
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https://youtu.be/BP_OPJoszjU

That many cars running 2-3 wide was bound to be a disaster. 21 cars is a lot at one time.

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upUPNorth
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4. "Two-wheeled testing going on too!"
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Fairly interesting results, though I don't know as much about 'how' they test relative to F1 and how big those gaps are, it's cool to see Suzuki at the top trailed by two Yamaha's including a strong rookie performance from Quartararo (Vinales always tests well, he needs to bring that into the season).
Marquez did a lot of laps for someone coming off an off-season injury/shoulder surgery, Honda's all star lineup are both in questionable physical form but they both know how to ride through those things. The KTM being the slowest but only six tenths off the fastest lap is exactly what makes Moto GP exciting these days and hopefully makes for a good season to watch.

Superbike has already started and Bautista stormed their first race weekend after not getting a ride in Moto GP again, record setting win of all three races and might just outclass the field if no one has a response.

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5. "GP"
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I use to love watching GP but too many bikes break away and it's a group of 5 every race. I'd love to see Rossi win one more but that appears to be less and less likely.

Moto2 has become the fun series to follow.

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6. "RE: GP"
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A lot of pieces definitely have to fall in to place for Rossi to win it again, along with him being in peak form, as much as I'd love to see it.

I definitely love watching the lower classes, moto 3 is fun as hell, moto 2 last season honestly seemed a bit less entertaining to me with Bagnaia looking too good a lot of the time (I am an Oliveira fan but can't deny his form). Maybe it will be different with those top guys moving up again.

I feel like Moto GP was worse for that a few years ago, at least recently when people broke away there were at least a couple battling when it really mattered at the front, some kind of dogfight. There was a period where they were so in control of races that they just constantly kept themselves 1 second apart from each other all race and nothing happened.

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7. "Up before this weekend's opener - Interesting points news"
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They are officially implementing a point for fastest lap at each race. Potential 21 points on offer throughout the season. You only get the point if you get the fastest lap and finish in the top 10, though they still consider there to be incentive for someone outside the top 10 to go for it to prevent someone else from getting it (like damage control on a bad day).
Apparently this actually existed back in the 50s or something. I think it's cool, if the Championship is tight, especially towards the end of the season, it could be fun to 'see' that scrap over a point that could decide something even if passing isn't involved.

Moto GP started pretty well this weekend, though I wasn't paying complete attention while watching. Dovi is always so good at Qatar and it always makes me hopeful he'll keep delivering, even knowing I'll have to wait until after Argentina and USA.

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Buck
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10. "The fastest lap bonus shall be known as the "Raikkonnen Point.""
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8. "Anybody peep the Netflix F1: Drive To Survive series?"
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I'll finish the series before practice in Melborne. It does suck that Mercedes and Ferrari turned them down, and some of the narratives they set up work better than others. But there are some wonderful bits in the first few episodes I watched that I'm amped if they did another season. It's far from perfect, and doesn't give the full picture of last season, but it's beautifully shot and fills in some mid-field bits, which is fine with me


Not sure how to feel about the fastest lap bonus point.

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9. "going to try to this week"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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13. "Saw the first episode."
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It's fine. Doesn't seem like there's gonna be much a die-hard fan didn't already know, but yeah, the shots are gorgeous.

  

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39. "thought it was really well done."
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they got solid access by all the participating teams and layered the storylines well enough. there also wasn't a sugarcoating of the extreme 1%, exclusive nature that makes F1 what it is. I don't follow F1 on a week-to-week basis so it made for a nice summary (albeit inconclusive) of 2018.

agreed that there was some beautiful shots, as well.

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11. "What story lines are we following in F1 this year?"
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- Can Lewis get to 6 and make it a hat trick, or will the car go up in flames like it did in 2016?
- Can Vettel make the third time the charm and get Ferrari over the hump, or will he make yet another in season mistake that costs him everything?
- Is Charles LeClerc the real deal? can he push Vettel and/or Hamilton for podium wins?
- Who comes out on top in the constructors, Renault or Red Bull?
- More importantly, can Ricciardo snag more points at the end of the season than Mad Max? That would be the sh*t that makes Horner's soul burn slow...
- Can Bottas get a win, or will he be sacked mid season (or at season's end) for Ocon?
- How well will The Iceman do at Alfa?
- Can Haas beat Renault in the constructors?
- Does Torro Rosso step up?
- Does Danny K have the mental fortitude to be competitive again?
- Can Williams manage 10 points at season's end?

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12. "Answers:"
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>- Can Lewis get to 6 and make it a hat trick,

Probably.

> or will the car
>go up in flames like it did in 2016?

Nah.

>- Can Vettel make the third time the charm and get Ferrari
>over the hump, or will he make yet another in season mistake
>that costs him everything?

Crashes out of Abu Dhabi, loses by 2 points.

>- Is Charles LeClerc the real deal? can he push Vettel and/or
>Hamilton for podium wins?

Yes.

>- Who comes out on top in the constructors, Renault or Red
>Bull?

Red Bull.

>- More importantly, can Ricciardo snag more points at the end
>of the season than Mad Max? That would be the sh*t that makes
>Horner's soul burn slow...

No.

>- Can Bottas get a win, or will he be sacked mid season (or at
>season's end) for Ocon?

Yes, no.

>- How well will The Iceman do at Alfa?

Top 10 in driver points.

>- Can Haas beat Renault in the constructors?

Yes.

>- Does Torro Rosso step up?

8th.

>- Does Danny K have the mental fortitude to be competitive
>again?

As competitive as the car is.

>- Can Williams manage 10 points at season's end?

No.

  

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41. "1/4 season prediction check"
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>>- Can Lewis get to 6 and make it a hat trick,
>
>Probably.

1st.

>> or will the car
>>go up in flames like it did in 2016?
>
>Nah.

Merc 217, Ferrari 121.

>>- Can Vettel make the third time the charm and get Ferrari
>>over the hump, or will he make yet another in season mistake
>>that costs him everything?
>
>Crashes out of Abu Dhabi, loses by 2 points.

Starting grid in Australia was as close as he's getting to a championship, apparently.

>>- Is Charles LeClerc the real deal? can he push Vettel
>and/or
>>Hamilton for podium wins?
>
>Yes.

Certainly can push Vettel.

>>- Who comes out on top in the constructors, Renault or Red
>>Bull?
>
>Red Bull.

RBR 87, Renault 12.

>>- More importantly, can Ricciardo snag more points at the
>end
>>of the season than Mad Max? That would be the sh*t that
>makes
>>Horner's soul burn slow...
>
>No.

VER 66, RIC 6.

>>- Can Bottas get a win, or will he be sacked mid season (or
>at
>>season's end) for Ocon?
>
>Yes, no.

The beard makes him fast.

>>- How well will The Iceman do at Alfa?
>
>Top 10 in driver points.

9th, but I'm not optimistic for Alfa.

>>- Can Haas beat Renault in the constructors?
>
>Yes.

Haas 19, Renault 12.

>>- Does Torro Rosso step up?
>
>8th.

9th.

>>- Does Danny K have the mental fortitude to be competitive
>>again?
>
>As competitive as the car is.

The car is not competitive.

>>- Can Williams manage 10 points at season's end?
>
>No.

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14. "Charlie Whiting just died."
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/formula-one-charlie-whiting-dies/4352058/

Formula 1 race director Charlie Whiting has passed away at the age of 66.
A statement from the FIA confirmed that the Briton died from a pulmonary embolism in Melbourne on the eve of the Australian Grand Prix weekend.

FIA president Jean Todt said: “It is with immense sadness that I learned of Charlie’s passing.

"Charlie Whiting was a great Race Director, a central and inimitable figure in Formula One who embodied the ethics and spirit of this fantastic sport.

“Formula 1 has lost a faithful friend and a charismatic ambassador in Charlie. All my thoughts, those of the FIA and entire motor sport community go out to his family, friends, and all Formula One lovers.”

Whiting first worked in Formula 1 for Hesketh Racing in 1977, but was best known for working his way through the ranks at Brabham to become its chief mechanic.

He played a key role in helping Nelson Piquet to the world drivers’ championship in 1981 and 1983 and would stay at the team until it was sold by then owner Bernie Ecclestone in 1988.

He moved to a position as FIA technical delegate, with the blessing of Ecclestone, and then became FIA director and safety delegate from 1997.

His role included overseeing track and car safety, technical and procedural matters on grand prix weekends plus starting the race itself.

Whiting was instrumental in pushing for improved safety standards in F1, and was a driving force behind the introduction of the halo at the start of last year – which was credited with saving the life of Charles Leclerc after his crash at the Belgian Grand Prix.

Speaking last year, Whiting said that a number of technical advances had contributed to making F1 so safe and allowing Leclerc to walk away.

“I agree about the introduction of the halo and that played a part, but you must not forget over the years all the far less visible things that have been done to improve safety of the survival cell, side impact structures, frontal impact structures, strengthen the survival cell itself, high cockpit sides, the headrest,” he said.

“All of those things have been done gradually over the years and they also play a part in the outcome.”

  

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15. "We’re off! F1 2019 is live."
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16. "Congrats to Bottas 2.0. 1st win of the season and fastest lap"
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Valtteri got off to a cracking start and never looked back or worried. Must be the beard...

Hamilton may want to think about not getting pole next season at this track. It hasn't netted him a win in 4 years. Not sure where his pace went after the pit stop, but he didn't seem too worried (at least not PR Hamilton at the post race interview). When asked about covering Max, he dismissively said that was no problem. Ouch.

Good result for Max, but more impressive for Honda. First time a Honda powered car has seen a podium in a decade. Had Horner and RB not have screwed the pooch in quali with Gasley, Ferrari may have had even more to worry about. Speaking of which...

Pornstache and The Clerk weren't in contention at all this race. Albert Park is never a great litmus test, as it's hard to pass on this track (not as bad as, say, Monaco) but to be that far off pace has to have the Tofossi concerned. I heard rumors they had to run the PU a tick lower this race. If so, that's either a blip that they figure out quickly or there are bigger development problems they aren't letting on. Personally, I think it comes down to Vettel's facial hair. Cut the 'stache man...

Other quick thoughts:
- Haas may end up best of the rest. Whether they had the same low power that Ferrari did is unclear
- Sucks to see Ricciardo with a DNF at his home race. His run with Renault didn't start the way he hoped, I"m sure
- Speaking of Renault, with Sainz and Danny retiring I wonder if they are still having PU issues. That wouldn't bode well for the season, though I'm sure C. Horner will be cackling with glee at their misfortunes. At least The Hulk made it 7th
- Norris couldn't make his Q3 run turn into points today. Still, great showing for the rookie
- Welcome back Kvyat. Managed to get the last point on the board

As noted, this isn't the best track to go predicting things. That said, if Mercedes has a car that Bottas can stretch the field by 20 seconds, it's going to be a looooong season for the rest of the field.

See everyone in 2 weeks!

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17. "Ugh."
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>That said, if Mercedes has a car that Bottas can stretch the
>field by 20 seconds, it's going to be a looooong season for
>the rest of the field.

  

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18. "I both want and don't want Mercedes dominance lol"
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Unfortunate for Norris, Giovinazzi screwed up a lot of people's races that day though. Was cool to see Stroll still start well and benefit from that going long, I'm just hype on seeing Canadians do well at stuff (we had an okay weekend for that in other sports).

Ferrari has usually started seasons on the front foot recently so I don't know what to expect from them now. Verstappen's knack for having pace at the end of the race could be more worrying at other tracks.

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19. "*crackling comms voice* "P-3 P-3""
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Red Bull coming in 3rd with the new Honda Engine.
Renault...*price is right fail horns*

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20. "Question is that sustainable"
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If Albert Park is the first and only podium for RB and Honda, great. Assuming Ferrari really did turn down the PU for reasons, RB may not be as close as they were Week 1. Worst case, it shows Max is still opportunistic and may be shaking off some of his old tendencies of driving on the wrong side of the daring/reckless line. Best case we still have a legit 3 team challenge for the 'chip.

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21. "I think the battle for 3 is between Haas and RB"
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I'm not confident in Renault even with Ricciardo.
If Haas ends up being 3rd its because RB couldn't sustain.
Classic RB shooting itself in the foot.

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22. "Am I a bad person for cackling like a madman for Ferrari's issues?"
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Vettel spinning after getting passed by Hamilton was all driver skill. Him shaking his front wing off was bad, but a freak accident, methinks. LeClerc had the pole, led most of the race, and then had engine issues. I guess testing for reliability is better than showing top speed in pre season testings. There was absolutely nothing he could have done as Hamilton and Bottas lazily passed him with laps to spare. Had the safety car not come out he may not have made the podium, as Max was closing quickly. The youngster showed great pace and poise, but whether Ferrari has bigger problems with their car is going to be the storyline for the next few races (early talk seems to think there may be cooling issues, which won't be an easy fix or bode well for them at most races).

As fast as Ferrari was today (and they clearly were faster in the straights) you get an idea what kind of driver Lewis is after his second pit stop. Battling Vettel out of the pits on fresh boots Lewis kept at him and didn't blink, unlike Sebastian. Even if it shakes out that Ferrari is quicker (like last year) I still have confidence in Hamilton fighting for #6. LeClerc should not be apologizing to the Tifosi for this one.

The battle in the midfield was fantastic. Plenty of passes and close racing. Whether having more DRS zones is better or worse for the sport can be debated, but it did give us an exciting race. It will be interesting to see what happens on a hotter track with more grip (instead of the cool, dusty track at Bahrain)

Other thoughts:

- Verstappen is making that Honda engine work. Gasley is not. If this keeps up, RB won't make 3rd in the constructors
- Renault, WTF? Both cars DNF on the same lap, and pretty much same corner? This is not how to jump to the big leagues or stick it to Ferrari. Still, Ricciardo shouldn't be too worried. Hamilton's first year with Mercedes wasn't great, and we see how that worked out
- Bottas really wasn't in it today (though there were some great moves in the early laps of the race and a nice fight with Hamilton). Signs of things to come? As long as they get the constructors again
- Just want to laugh at Pornstache again, because screw him. Whether the pressure is getting to him or not will be a discussion in the coming weeks
- Lando Norris in 6th? Go head rookie!

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23. "RE: Am I a bad person for cackling like a madman for Ferrari's issues?"
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>- Verstappen is making that Honda engine work. Gasley is not.
>If this keeps up, RB won't make 3rd in the constructors

I feel bad for Gasly, because he's never beat Max, but yeah, he has to do better, or he's gonna lose that drive quick.

>- Renault, WTF? Both cars DNF on the same lap, and pretty much
>same corner? This is not how to jump to the big leagues or
>stick it to Ferrari. Still, Ricciardo shouldn't be too
>worried. Hamilton's first year with Mercedes wasn't great, and
>we see how that worked out

That must have brought a smile to Christian Horner's face.

>- Just want to laugh at Pornstache again, because screw him.
>Whether the pressure is getting to him or not will be a
>discussion in the coming weeks

I like him, but yeah.

>- Lando Norris in 6th? Go head rookie!

Sainz was fast too, before the contact. Very happy for McLaren. Wish Haas had shown more.

  

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24. "Man, Lewis Hamilton had no business winning that race."
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If at the end of the season Ferrari finds themselves 3rd in the cup standings, they can point to this weekend.

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25. "ferrari has walked away with a bunch of points on the other end of that"
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in past years
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26. "^^too early to call this the season swinging race"
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As for Lewis, he manages to win when he shouldn't, because he doesn't quit (unless he has the championship all wrapped up). Last year's race in Germany was a perfect example.

Only thing I can surmise so far is we're in for a wild season, even if it end up being a 2 horse race

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27. "F1 1000. Well, that was boring"
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Congrats to Hamilton and Petronas for a 3rd straight 1-2 finish. Starting grid was weird, as it looked like a team photo, with each team qualified almost how they all ended the constructors last year. For as much pace as that Ferrari has, it did them no good on a track where, going into the weekend, it seemed like a safe bet for them to crush everyone in the straights. But Mercedes must have had a massive advantage in the corners as Hamilton and Bottas bolted out the gate and never looked back. Besides a few passes in the midfield (and Max's one shot at passing Pornstache) there wasn't much excitement on track. You'd want more drama for your 1000th race, but I suppose clean driving is better than dirty racing. On to 1001...

Ferrari seem to be setting themselves up a nasty driver situation between The Clerk and Pornstache. If Charles were that much slower than Seb it would have been understandable. But he wasn't, and further bungled strategy had them lose a place to Mad Max, who drove the beans off that RB. Losing the last race to mechanical problems and then losing unnecessary places the next race due to team orders is not a good look. I get Pornstache has the experience and tenure, but so far has come up short at Ferrari (partly because of Petronas' dominance this era, and partly because his cracking under pressure when it counted). Will Ferrari let their drivers race? Or will things boil over before summer break?

Other thoughts:

- Congrats to Ricciardo for coming in 7th in a mostly uneventful drive. At least he finished his first race for Renault, NOw to find some speed
- Gasley inched off the hot seat with his 6th place finish, but he was so far off Max's pace he still needs to look over his shoulder lest RB decides to promote Albon (who drove from the pit lane start to 10th place).
- Kvyat got his 'Torpedo' name back, but it wasn't completely his fault. Still, drive through penalty and DNF have to hurt
- Not sure where Haas pace has gone. I expect them or Renault to end up 'best of the rest', but neither team seem to want to make that move so far. Long season to go
- The Mercedes double stack was a thing of beauty. I'd give those guys a bonus this week.

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28. "ferrari got a real situation there"
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cuz le clerc isn't slow

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31. "RE: ferrari got a real situation there"
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It's like Leclerc is the only one not making mistakes in that team right now. Their car is still scary and if they figure their shit out and deliver anything could happen, but it's hard not to feel convinced that they're just always going to shoot their chance at the Championship in the foot, and that chance may be Leclerc.

Still, I'm hoping for a Bottas lead 1-2 at Azerbaijan this year to make up for his bad luck last year.

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32. "One of these years I'll actually watch China live."
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This was not that year.

  

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33. "It was tough being up at 2am"
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Took a nap around 10 and got up before the race. I was fading the last 5 laps and may have just saw Lewis take the flag before I passed out. Good thing my TV has a timer (and I have a wife that's semi-understanding and a partial fan)

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29. "MotoGP is off to a crazy start"
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Rossi has been on the podium back-to-back. Yesterday in Austin, Honda didn't have a bike in the top 10 but KTM did.

Ducati has a great bike and Suzuki won a race. Early, but it's nuts.

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30. "RE: MotoGP is off to a crazy start"
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Austin was crazy, I think every class Championship Leader crashed out of the race. Seeing Marquez go down at COTA still seems unreal, that place belonged to him. I'm happy for Rins, I was a fan of his in Moto 2, but it would have been awesome to see Rossi win! If he remains this consistent though he can fight for the championship.

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34. "Ferrari Friday, Mercedes Sunday."
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Feel like I've seen that enough this season already.

  

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35. "It's hard to call"
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Ferrari clearly have a fast car. All the trap speeds confirm such. However, come race day Mercedes finds pace (except for Bahrain). Couple that with Ferrari shooting themselves in the foot either with setup, equipment failure or questionable strategy. Meanwhile, Mercedes either runs flawlessly or becomes extremely opportunistic and capitalizes on Ferrari's misfortunes. Four straight 1-2 finishes with the drivers split only by the fastest lap point is pretty crazy.

The Clerk is definitely fast. Reminds me of Max when he first got to Red Bull. Methinks he probably has a better handle on the chassis that Pornstache does at this point. But playing team orders to keep Seb happy is just going to spell disaster. Were it not for faulty equipment LeClerc would have a win (maybe two if he hadn't hit the wall last race) and Vettel would not. Roll with who has the hot hand Ferrari...

Still have no clue on what Renault and Haas are doing this season. They almost seem to be regressing. Maybe it's a Netflix curse

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36. "Actually think Ferrari and Haas troubles are linked."
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It's come out recently that the Haas chassis just doesn't get the tires into the window and working properly, which explains why that car can look top-4 in practice and end up well out of the points on race day. I suspect, given how much Ferrari is in the Haas, that the Ferrari might be having similar troubles, but up a few places on the grid. There's no other explanation for why Ferrari looks to be obviously the fastest car some days, but just blah throughout a full weekend.

Steiner was talking about this the other day: https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/haas-absolutely-worst-tyres-steiner/4379278/

My irritation is that the tires are so damned hard to get working at all, which is a problem of the current regs. If you haven't read Stefan Johansson's four-part manifesto about the state of F1, it's worth taking a look: https://www.motorsport.com/search/articles/?q=stefan

  

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37. "Ferrari must be sick. This was Mercedes all weekend"
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With Ferrari bringing aero and engine upgrades to a track they were dominant at over winter practice, you would think this would be a good chance for them to get a win. Nope. They were soundly beaten in practice, qualifying, and the race. Even if they didn't befuddle everyone with their race strategy (which is becoming a theme this year), they didn't have the pace to catch Mad Max, let alone either of the Petronas cars. Hamilton made it to the first corner ahead and never looked back.

At this point you have to wonder if they really got it wrong on their aero setup. They remind me of a 60's era Mopar muscle car: fast ad balls on the straights, but can't get around the corners. If Mercedes managed to keep that big of a gap between them with only aero tweaks It will be funny to see where they are once the bring their engine upgrade in (likely in Canada). So now, in addition to fighting aero issues they have to run their remaining engines longer through the season, which may bring reliability into the mix (and we've already seen late season issues from Ferrari in the past years). It may not be all doom and gloom just yet, but they are getting beat by a car with a Honda engine, even though they usually have a car with the best trap speeds. With Monaco up next, they may be looking at another weekend of pain.

5th 1-2 finish for Petronas. I'm a fan and want Hamilton to get #6, but I have to admit this race, like China, was a little on the boring side. It may be the nature of the track (like Australie), but there wasn't a lot of racing for position through the lineup. Even with the restart which bunched everyone up, the top 6 stayed in their positions.

Other bits

- Sky Sports coverage and announcing wasn't great today. They spent more time training their cameras on the Ferrari duo that they totally missed the Norris/Stroll crash, among other happenings. Brundle and Co. also seemed to mistake Vettel for Verstappen a few times when discussing the race during the broadcast.
- Kvyat managed points. Good for him
- Haas looked better. But Günther Steiner probably lit fire to K-Mag's ass for his battle with Grosjean. Racing heads up is one thing. Almost causing a wipe out unnecessarily is a no-no
- Ricciardo hasn't had a good start to his season at all
- Gasley had a better showing for RB, but he's still holding them back in the constructor's
- Why is Williams still running?

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38. "RBR was always gonna be good in Spain though."
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>they didn't have the
>pace to catch Mad Max

Barcalona's not especially power-dependent, so an A chassis with a B engine like RBR was gonna do well. Just points to the fact that Ferrari don't quite have a A chassis.

>- Haas looked better. But Günther Steiner probably lit fire
>to K-Mag's ass for his battle with Grosjean. Racing heads up
>is one thing. Almost causing a wipe out unnecessarily is a
>no-no

Eh...I thought it was good racing. The touch was no good, and I bet Steiner let them know about that, but otherwise, it was clean and hard. Should have been 7-8 rather than 7-10, but I didn't see anything outrageous.

>- Ricciardo hasn't had a good start to his season at all

Renault is a piece of shit.

>- Gasley had a better showing for RB, but he's still holding
>them back in the constructor's

Maybe, but if Max is the benchmark, I mean, whaddya gonna do?

>- Why is Williams still running?

I wish Kubica would retire mid-season. I love the guy, but he's just too slow. They're gonna have to fire him, I think. (Ocon, maybe?)

  

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40. "RIP Niki Lauda."
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