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Case_One
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"So, can we finally agree that Tom Brady is the GOAT NFL QB?"


  

          

At this point there is no need to ever debate this obvious fact again.

#bradygoat




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this shouldn't have been a real question
Feb 04th 2019
1
Based on what?
Feb 04th 2019
2
didn't we have this post last week?
Feb 04th 2019
3
no. That putrid performance in the SB eliminates him from GOAT forever
Feb 04th 2019
4
4-0 vs 6-3 just means Montana lost EARLIER in the playoffs
Feb 04th 2019
5
Montana peaked in a more competitive era/conference
Feb 04th 2019
9
Rock, Rock, Planet Rock...Don't Stop...Being Mad
Feb 04th 2019
13
RE: Montana peaked in a more competitive era/conference
Feb 04th 2019
37
and no one with a performance THAT shitty in a championship is the GOAT
Feb 04th 2019
10
i'm just here for your anger, Doc
Feb 04th 2019
22
SF had to deal with the Giants, Redskins, and Bears
Feb 04th 2019
14
      Joe also got mauled by that Giants defense...
Feb 04th 2019
27
      Yup....if Joe never got touched and played 20 healthy years....
Feb 04th 2019
44
      picture Brady taking some of those same shots LOL
Feb 05th 2019
56
           I do, often.
Feb 06th 2019
64
      you kinda indirectly poopoo'd the 4-0 SB record
Feb 06th 2019
62
You're the Max Kellerman of the OkayBoards
Feb 04th 2019
23
Weak shit. I'll NEVER call that fraud GOAT.
Feb 04th 2019
29
aside from his first throw of the game, he didn't play poorly
Feb 05th 2019
53
Would be funny if his most peyton manning in SB win
Feb 04th 2019
6
*poplocking through this post and ignoring responses*
Feb 04th 2019
7
Certainly underwhelming QB play in this SB
Feb 04th 2019
8
since responses are being ignored:
Feb 04th 2019
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I came to OKS just to see how mad folks were.
Feb 04th 2019
12
Haters gonna hate
Feb 04th 2019
16
Same.
Feb 06th 2019
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Why would that game change anything in either direction though?
Feb 04th 2019
15
Yep, and now we know why the Heisman voters are so shitty
Feb 04th 2019
17
If the Pasts had loss, Brady would gotten the blame. Right?
Feb 04th 2019
18
Was Brady the reason they lost last year?
Feb 04th 2019
31
If they only scored 13 and lost, sure
Feb 04th 2019
41
He led the game winning drive when he needed to. Like he always does.
Feb 04th 2019
24
      The "getting there" aspect is completely underrated for him...
Feb 04th 2019
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      I don’t hate him, he’s 0-2 in SB’s that I care about
Feb 04th 2019
42
The people arguing Montana look more embarrassing every year
Feb 04th 2019
19
Hasn't been close in years.
Feb 04th 2019
21
how old are you?
Feb 04th 2019
49
That debate ended after the Atlanta win. This is all just extra cement.
Feb 04th 2019
25
Different era....Montana got absolutely mauled on savage hits
Feb 04th 2019
43
factz
Feb 05th 2019
60
No NFLer from the past 20 years is the greatest anything.
Feb 04th 2019
20
This is a sound analysis
Feb 04th 2019
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RE: No NFLer from the past 20 years is the greatest anything.
Feb 04th 2019
38
fuckin' Brady dicklickers. all of y'all gotta go
Feb 04th 2019
28
boody scratchers.
Feb 04th 2019
34
      RE: boody scratchers. <----- LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
Feb 05th 2019
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He's the best of his generation. IMO that's all there is in the NFL
Feb 04th 2019
30
Nah he needs 5 more Super Bowls victories than anybody else has.
Feb 04th 2019
33
theyre the favorite out the afc for the next few years.
Feb 04th 2019
35
I don't know about all that
Feb 04th 2019
46
GOAT accolades to a known cheater?! GTFOHWTBS!
Feb 04th 2019
36
He Allegedly had someone change the air psi in footballs like other QBs
Feb 04th 2019
39
      "Stop crying." is really the only response necessary for these fools.
Feb 04th 2019
40
           You’re right
Feb 04th 2019
47
                not crying just saying.
Feb 05th 2019
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                     You can't be comparing boxing to football?
Feb 08th 2019
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                          Facts.
Feb 08th 2019
94
Brian Flores was the star for the Patriots yesterday, Brady didn’t do ...
Feb 04th 2019
45
He was the goat after 28-3 aka 5. The rest is window dressing
Feb 04th 2019
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respect to the best 20 to 20 system QB of all time
Feb 04th 2019
50
Yyyyyaaaaawwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Feb 04th 2019
51
if It were that simple every team would be doing it.
Feb 04th 2019
52
right lol
Feb 05th 2019
55
last few years have exposed this as Belicheat being the GOAT
Feb 05th 2019
58
SPY GATE = -3 SUPERBOWLS
Feb 05th 2019
57
He completed most of his passes to a guy on PED’s.
Feb 05th 2019
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He probably would have dropped them all if he didnt take a diuretic
Feb 06th 2019
63
lmfao
Feb 06th 2019
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So PED’s make you slow and short and create holes in the defense?
Feb 06th 2019
66
Was listening to Greg Cosell of NFL Films explain TB's greatness
Feb 07th 2019
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RE: Was listening to Greg Cosell of NFL Films explain TB's greatness
Feb 07th 2019
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How so ?
Feb 07th 2019
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      RE: How so ?
Feb 07th 2019
83
           Bruh, Montana had his moments of EPIC failure stop.
Feb 07th 2019
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           Word.
Feb 07th 2019
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           My Dude! Amen!
Feb 07th 2019
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           RE: Bruh, Montana had his moments of EPIC failure stop.
Feb 07th 2019
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                All I see are excuses. “Different league”....please
Feb 08th 2019
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                     RE: All I see are excuses. “Different league”....please
Feb 08th 2019
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                          Plea cop? You can even admit when Montana is terrible
Feb 08th 2019
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                               Desperation.
Feb 08th 2019
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                               RE: Plea cop? You can even admit when Montana is terrible
Feb 08th 2019
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                                    Joe got blown out at home by the ringless WADE WILSON
Feb 08th 2019
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                                         RE: Joe got blown out at home by the ringless WADE WILSON
Feb 08th 2019
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                                              6 rings is the deal sealer. not having the GOAT WR for YEARS, too
Feb 08th 2019
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                                                   Tom had those games too, its just his coaching staff bailed him out
Feb 08th 2019
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                                                   and not one tom fans cops pleas about it.
Feb 08th 2019
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                                                   RE: 6 rings is the deal sealer. not having the GOAT WR for YEARS, too
Feb 11th 2019
110
                                                        it is at QB when you have all the postseason passing records. bye
Feb 12th 2019
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                                                             RE: it is at QB when you have all the postseason passing records. bye
Feb 13th 2019
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                                                                  montana had those aggregate stats once...which is why he was GOAT
Feb 13th 2019
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                                                                       RE: montana had those aggregate stats once...which is why he was GOAT
Feb 13th 2019
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                                                                            i was talking about playoffs/superbowl stats
Feb 18th 2019
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                                                                                 RE: i was talking about playoffs/superbowl stats
Feb 18th 2019
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                                                                                 so, so does Phil Simms...unimpeachable. no one cares.
Feb 18th 2019
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                                                                                 RE: so, so does Phil Simms...unimpeachable. no one cares.
Feb 19th 2019
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                                                                                 you mad tom still playing and making the gap larger
Feb 20th 2019
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                                                                                 RE: you mad tom still playing and making the gap larger
Feb 20th 2019
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                                                                                 yeah, it's always different, yet joe was better than unitas/starr
Feb 22nd 2019
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           .
Feb 07th 2019
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The "short passes" thing is such a strange knock on him
Feb 07th 2019
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RE: The "short passes" thing is such a strange knock on him
Feb 07th 2019
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we'll never see it. he's the Kobe Bryant of football
Feb 07th 2019
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      lol, you're the maddest person on planet earth right now
Feb 08th 2019
106
No, JORDAN RULE IN EFFECT
Feb 07th 2019
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Lmao, the "division" argument always gets me
Feb 07th 2019
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It's a baseless argument, like all these crying idiots' arguments.
Feb 07th 2019
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LOL at the Foles argument.
Feb 07th 2019
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I would never take a shot at Nick.
Feb 11th 2019
114
Matt Cassell looked great? let's use that baseline
Feb 07th 2019
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they ain't make the playoffs. i dunno why people bring it up
Feb 07th 2019
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Just another in a loooong line of stupid, baseless, desperate arguments.
Feb 07th 2019
80
Desperation. Like Holla'in at the ugly girl before they leave the club
Feb 07th 2019
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31 other QB's could've won that game for the Patriots last Sunday.
Feb 08th 2019
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      Kewl. What about SB 49 ? Or 51 ? Or 38 ?
Feb 08th 2019
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      36 for sure.
Feb 08th 2019
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      you need to worry about them 31 others winning it for the rams
Feb 08th 2019
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RE: No, JORDAN RULE IN EFFECT
Feb 07th 2019
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o ok so once more losing in the first round>losing in the SB/finals
Feb 09th 2019
107
I'm sorry for the disrespectful Cowboy fans...
Feb 12th 2019
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If you're responding seriously to the "nos"
Feb 07th 2019
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I'll say it again, Unitas, Montana, Brady
Feb 10th 2019
108
If he ends up on the Jets instead of the Pats is he even in the convo?
Feb 11th 2019
109
What QB couldn't you make this argument about?
Feb 11th 2019
111
Would Montana play DE on the Bucs tho?
Feb 11th 2019
113
He would play outfield for the Devil Rays
Feb 11th 2019
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Montana was great the short time he was with the Chiefs until he got hur...
Feb 12th 2019
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      peyton showed how to choke a lot, too
Feb 12th 2019
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      He set records in Denver and won another chip, I think Tom's success...
Feb 12th 2019
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           ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OK. Now we get it.
Feb 12th 2019
120
           so a guy who doesn't play makes Brady falsely great...
Feb 12th 2019
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                also none of the other modern QBs have benefited
Feb 12th 2019
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                     LOL
Feb 12th 2019
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      lol, well that settles it!
Feb 12th 2019
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      those same chiefs were *better* with Steve Bono the next year
Feb 12th 2019
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           LOL
Feb 12th 2019
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           talk about it
Feb 12th 2019
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           Facts!
Feb 12th 2019
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           ^^^ducktales, the team had a better record because they had the #1...
Feb 12th 2019
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                nigga,better is better....stop crying
Feb 12th 2019
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                11-5 w/o Brady. 3-1 w/o Brady....just sayin.
Feb 12th 2019
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                Missed playoffs. Shutout by the Bills. Just saying.
Feb 12th 2019
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                     People really still capping for... Matt Cassel? Lmao
Feb 12th 2019
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                          Haha. They're doing a lot of desperate things.
Feb 13th 2019
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                          In his defense, he's just saying.
Feb 13th 2019
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                that's the same logic that makes Brady the GOAT
Feb 13th 2019
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                you think the defense sucked the year before?
Feb 13th 2019
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                     RE: you think the defense sucked the year before?
Feb 13th 2019
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                          yes, montana was slightly better than Steve Bono
Feb 13th 2019
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                               at 38 years old...
Feb 13th 2019
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                                    And Brady was MVP and threw for 505 yards in the SB at 40yo.
Feb 13th 2019
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                                         I knew this was coming, Brady is the GOAT of the longevity game no doubt
Feb 13th 2019
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                                              I knew this was coming.
Feb 13th 2019
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                                              remember when he had three around 2014 and they would take
Feb 18th 2019
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                                                   Haha right. Goalposts keep on movin'.
Feb 18th 2019
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                                              Dude, He's the GOAT regardless of age
Feb 18th 2019
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                                                   He CHEATED. His legacy is tainted forever.
Feb 18th 2019
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I think Brady wins on any team,
Feb 11th 2019
112
      Baker better
Feb 12th 2019
124
           Bro, Those edibles must be Killer
Feb 12th 2019
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                We've established that he is MAD, but why?
Feb 12th 2019
133
                     the only team I can see Boody winning on is one like the Giants
Feb 13th 2019
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tariqhu
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1. "this shouldn't have been a real question"
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before this game. he didn't do anything to taint his legacy, but he wasn't special either. defense won this one.

either way, I can't argue against him.

nah, you trippin

  

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2. "Based on what?"
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https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/02/super-bowl-bill-belichick-mvp-patriots

  

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3. "didn't we have this post last week?"
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4. "no. That putrid performance in the SB eliminates him from GOAT forever"
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actually, the 3 SB losses do.

4-0 > 6 participation trophies

  

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5. "4-0 vs 6-3 just means Montana lost EARLIER in the playoffs"
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good god, not this argument again.
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9. "Montana peaked in a more competitive era/conference"
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13. "Rock, Rock, Planet Rock...Don't Stop...Being Mad"
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37. "RE: Montana peaked in a more competitive era/conference"
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I'm still unsure what the argument is for Tom and how it would be improved by his subpar performance last night??

Just aggregate rings?


In football???


GTFOH


Bill the GOAT coach and he showed us why last night. He coulda won that with Nick Foles.

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10. "and no one with a performance THAT shitty in a championship is the GOAT"
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that's the equivalent of Michael Jordan being on a Finals team and only hitting 3 free throws out of 4 attempts. and that's the ONLY stat line

motherfucker put up "Worse than Dilfer" numbers in a conference championship AND a Super Bowl back to back... and THAT'S y'all's GOAT?

because rings?

FOH

  

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22. "i'm just here for your anger, Doc"
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that shit was bait.

Shouts to Joe Montana getting benched in a playoff games for sucking that bad on what most people thought was the best 49ers team of his era.

but it wasn't a super bowl so...that's better somehow?

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14. "SF had to deal with the Giants, Redskins, and Bears"
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The NFC won all the Super Bowls back then. Giants and Washington both won multiple titles. Bears had one of the best teams of all time.

A lot harder to come out of that NFC than the 00s or 10s AFC.

  

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27. "Joe also got mauled by that Giants defense..."
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on hits that are now no longer allowed in the NFL

  

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44. "Yup....if Joe never got touched and played 20 healthy years...."
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And I don’t care about or particularly like or dislike either of them. My Giants faired more than ok against both of them in big games. Just trying to be fair. When comparing across eras, context matters.

  

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56. "picture Brady taking some of those same shots LOL "
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64. "I do, often."
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Almost has the same effect as Gina Grad plopping into my lap. Almost.

  

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62. "you kinda indirectly poopoo'd the 4-0 SB record"
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by stating that the AFC wasnt beating anyone else either

did SF ever play a SB against a team as good as the 2001 Rams, 2014 Seahawks, or even the 2018 Rams?

Steelers and Colts have won Super Bowls and PIT has never beaten Brady in the playoffs. 0-3 in AFCCG

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23. "You're the Max Kellerman of the OkayBoards"
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Even he's come around this morning and admitted what we've all known for the last five years

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29. "Weak shit. I'll NEVER call that fraud GOAT."
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GOATs don't cheat, and they don't drop steaming turds like this in championship games.

This is the equivalent of a Jordan Finals win where all he did in the entire game was hit 3 of 4 FGs.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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53. "aside from his first throw of the game, he didn't play poorly"
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6. "Would be funny if his most peyton manning in SB win"
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was the one that took him over the top.

he was actively underwhelming save for one drive. but that one drive mattered.

GOAT

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7. "*poplocking through this post and ignoring responses*"
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8. "Certainly underwhelming QB play in this SB"
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shut up already, damn

  

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11. "since responses are being ignored:"
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if that dude gets Theismanned, you bet your ASS I will party.

  

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12. "I came to OKS just to see how mad folks were."
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Y'all didn't disappoint lol

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16. "Haters gonna hate"
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67. "Same. "
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15. "Why would that game change anything in either direction though?"
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He was a nonfactor.

  

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17. "Yep, and now we know why the Heisman voters are so shitty"
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same application as here, Stephon Gimore was the MVP, Brady barely mattered.

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18. "If the Pasts had loss, Brady would gotten the blame. Right?"
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31. "Was Brady the reason they lost last year? "
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if you play bad and lose you get the blame

Pretty sure Billicheat not playing Butler was a huge reason they lost.

shut up already, damn

  

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41. "If they only scored 13 and lost, sure"
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24. "He led the game winning drive when he needed to. Like he always does."
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That touchdown drive and those perfect passes to Gronk put the dagger in the game. And lets not forget the two game winning drives he had against Kansas City to get them here. Haters are just being absurd at this point

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26. "The "getting there" aspect is completely underrated for him..."
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9 Super Bowl appearances and 6 wins is WAAAAYYYYYY more impressive than 4 appearances with no losses. The this isn't the NBA - to make it to the Super Bowl in a single elimination tournament is MUCH more difficult than making it to the NBA Finals through rounds of 7. In a round of 7, the best team wins much more often than in a single elimination when one individual good or bad performance can swing the fate of a team. In the NBA most years it's a foregone conclusion that a team from one conference (or both some years) will make the Finals. Not in the NFL. Making 9 Super Bowls is insane, and he's done it in many different ways.


And lets not forget the two game
>winning drives he had against Kansas City to get them here.
>Haters are just being absurd at this point

  

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42. "I don’t hate him, he’s 0-2 in SB’s that I care about"
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Hasn’t caused me no trouble.

I find the constant “GOAT” stuff kinda annoying though. He’s up there. Got a great argument for it. This game was pedestrian though.

  

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19. "The people arguing Montana look more embarrassing every year"
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I'm no longer cheering for the Pats, but yeesh, Brady's GOAT and it basically ain't close anymore.

  

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21. "Hasn't been close in years."
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The Montana folks are adorable. THE NFC WAS SUPER TOUGH ! HE NEVER LOST (EXCEPT ALL THOSE EARLY PLAYOFF EXITS) ! lol. So cute.


>RE: The people arguing Montana look more embarrassing every year
>I'm no longer cheering for the Pats, but yeesh, Brady's GOAT
>and it basically ain't close anymore.

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49. "how old are you?"
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serious question

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25. "That debate ended after the Atlanta win. This is all just extra cement. "
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43. "Different era....Montana got absolutely mauled on savage hits"
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Career shortening and affecting hits.

That aspect of the game doesn’t exist anymore.

That’s why you can’t look solely at numbers that depend on longevity. Longevity then vs. now are a lot different.

  

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60. "factz"
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20. "No NFLer from the past 20 years is the greatest anything."
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Think about how ridiculousy different the rules are.

Where receivers line up. Jamming receivers. Not being allowed to TOUCH QB's etc etc etc..

It's a completely different sport. Can anyone honestly can say they think Tom Brady would have lasted 20 years in the NFL that Marino, Elway and Montana worked in?

Nah.

Brady got sacked once in the entire playoffs this season. And it was baby taps. And his team put up 13 points in the lamest super bowl ever.

There's the low/no contact NFL that he played in, and then the Real football that used to be played.

IMO, it can't be compared. Gotta separate it.

Montana played 9 healthy seasons maybe, Brady & Manning & Brees etc.. 15+

  

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32. "This is a sound analysis"
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>Think about how ridiculousy different the rules are.
>
>Where receivers line up. Jamming receivers. Not being allowed
>to TOUCH QB's etc etc etc..
>
>It's a completely different sport. Can anyone honestly can say
>they think Tom Brady would have lasted 20 years in the NFL
>that Marino, Elway and Montana worked in?
>
>Nah.
>
>Brady got sacked once in the entire playoffs this season. And
>it was baby taps. And his team put up 13 points in the lamest
>super bowl ever.
>
>There's the low/no contact NFL that he played in, and then the
>Real football that used to be played.
>
>IMO, it can't be compared. Gotta separate it.
>
>Montana played 9 healthy seasons maybe, Brady & Manning &
>Brees etc.. 15+

No professional sport has been so altered to favor offense like the NFL, and no position has been so protected as the QB.

This does not diminish Brady's extended greatness over all these years, because he can only play the competition in front of him under the rules in existence during his time, but it's disingenuous to act like these are the same conditions. We're not talking about the players having better fitness and nutrition making them bigger faster stronger, these are the RULES being changed to allow them more opportunities and less resistance in their attempts to score.

I stopped saying MJ was the GOAT in bball just because he never had an opportunity to play against some of the all timers. I'd do the same in this regard. I would rate the best QB in each of 3 phases of the NFL: Unitas, Montana, Brady





  

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38. "RE: No NFLer from the past 20 years is the greatest anything."
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>Think about how ridiculousy different the rules are.
>
>Where receivers line up. Jamming receivers. Not being allowed
>to TOUCH QB's etc etc etc..
>
>It's a completely different sport. Can anyone honestly can say
>they think Tom Brady would have lasted 20 years in the NFL
>that Marino, Elway and Montana worked in?
>
>Nah.
>
>Brady got sacked once in the entire playoffs this season. And
>it was baby taps. And his team put up 13 points in the lamest
>super bowl ever.
>
>There's the low/no contact NFL that he played in, and then the
>Real football that used to be played.
>
>IMO, it can't be compared. Gotta separate it.
>
>Montana played 9 healthy seasons maybe, Brady & Manning &
>Brees etc.. 15+


These idiots don't even have an answer

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28. "fuckin' Brady dicklickers. all of y'all gotta go"
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34. "boody scratchers."
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54. "RE: boody scratchers. <----- LMAOOOOOOOOOOO"
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Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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30. "He's the best of his generation. IMO that's all there is in the NFL"
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However I will conveniently take the position that he's the best ever or not the best ever to troll the fuck out of anyone who has a strong opinion about this. It's so easy.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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33. "Nah he needs 5 more Super Bowls victories than anybody else has."
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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35. "theyre the favorite out the afc for the next few years."
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if the only thing standing in their way is an andy reid team in the playoffs...you know how thats going.

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46. "I don't know about all that"
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36. "GOAT accolades to a known cheater?! GTFOHWTBS!"
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doesn't matter what he accomplishes he took a big ol dump on his hopes at a legit legacy...

  

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39. "He Allegedly had someone change the air psi in footballs like other QBs"
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And kickers to meet his needs. Stop crying



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40. ""Stop crying." is really the only response necessary for these fools."
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47. "You’re right"
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59. "not crying just saying."
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margaurito got caught with plaster in his gloves... have other fighters done it for a competitive edge before... sure.. is it right? no... did it ruin his legacy and any sense of legitimacy for any of his fights? absolutely.. at least Brady's transgressions didn't result in folks getting their faces smashed TF up but it still pisses on his legacy imo.

  

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93. "You can't be comparing boxing to football?"
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>margaurito got caught with plaster in his gloves... have
>other fighters done it for a competitive edge before... sure..
>is it right? no... did it ruin his legacy and any sense of
>legitimacy for any of his fights? absolutely.. at least
>Brady's transgressions didn't result in folks getting their
>faces smashed TF up but it still pisses on his legacy imo.

allegedly adjusting the air in a football is a common practice for all QB's and Kickers. And there was NEVER any proof that Brady made that happen. Nothing is tainted. Folks are just bitter because he's almost unstoppable.


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94. "Facts."
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>allegedly adjusting the air in a football is a common practice
>for all QB's and Kickers. And there was NEVER any proof that
>Brady made that happen. Nothing is tainted. Folks are just
>bitter because he's almost unstoppable.

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45. "Brian Flores was the star for the Patriots yesterday, Brady didn’t do ..."
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48. "He was the goat after 28-3 aka 5. The rest is window dressing"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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50. "respect to the best 20 to 20 system QB of all time"
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despite only needing to score a td or two in pretty much all of his post season games he found a way to drive down the field to have a kicker bail him out again.

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51. "Yyyyyaaaaawwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn"
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52. "if It were that simple every team would be doing it."
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55. "right lol"
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>despite only needing to score a td or two in pretty much all
>of his post season games he found a way to drive down the
>field to have a kicker bail him out again.

  

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58. "last few years have exposed this as Belicheat being the GOAT"
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wherever the league tries to move, he's ahead of it.

this dink and dunk shit is his fuckin' creation.

  

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57. "SPY GATE = -3 SUPERBOWLS"
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61. "He completed most of his passes to a guy on PED’s. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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63. "He probably would have dropped them all if he didnt take a diuretic "
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65. "lmfao"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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66. "So PED’s make you slow and short and create holes in the defense?"
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68. "Was listening to Greg Cosell of NFL Films explain TB's greatness"
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it's amazing how people who's job it is to watch film view Brady so differently than know-nothings.

cliff notes...

-brady processes pre and post faster than anyone maybe ever

-brady's patience is undervalued. he takes those quick-hitters for 5-7 yards because they're there and there's no need to get greedy looking for huge gains, when you can be establishing rhythm and building confidence and keeping D off the field.

-brady plays within stucture better than any QB ever...OC's dream QB, because he makes the proper reads and doesn't go off script and let's people do their fucking jobs.

-rodgers more talented, but lacks discipline, which is why he he ain't on tom level. called him a "jazz player"...goes outside structure too often and leaves plenty of open productive throws on the field.


so basically he calling tom a system QB...because he can play well in any fucking system

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70. "RE: Was listening to Greg Cosell of NFL Films explain TB's greatness"
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>
>it's amazing how people who's job it is to watch film view
>Brady so differently than know-nothings.
>
>cliff notes...
>
>-brady processes pre and post faster than anyone maybe ever

Debatable but seems realistic

>
>-brady's patience is undervalued. he takes those quick-hitters
>for 5-7 yards because they're there and there's no need to get
>greedy looking for huge gains, when you can be establishing
>rhythm and building confidence and keeping D off the field.

Seems accurate

>
>-brady plays within stucture better than any QB ever...OC's
>dream QB, because he makes the proper reads and doesn't go off
>script and let's people do their fucking jobs.

Montana invented that

>
>-rodgers more talented, but lacks discipline, which is why he
>he ain't on tom level. called him a "jazz player"...goes
>outside structure too often and leaves plenty of open
>productive throws on the field.

Rodgers? Okay, yeah, agreed, that sounds correct.

>
>
>so basically he calling tom a system QB...because he can play
>well in any fucking system

Also sounds correct.


He is obviously one of the best QB's ever.



The jump from that to undisputed GOAT is where the evidence in lacking

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74. "How so ?"
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>The jump from that to undisputed GOAT is where the evidence in
>lacking

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83. "RE: How so ?"
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Other people have done those things too, or other things of equal or more value.

For example. Joe Montana was great pre-and-post snap. We have both statistical evidence, our own eyes, and the words of his teammates and coaches.

Different era, but Montana changed the way people played offense and defense and he killed the 46 defense dead in it's crib.

Or you could say Walsh did…but then we would get into Brady/Belicheat territory. Also, when he put Steve Young in charge, Steve couldn't stay on script*

*In a vacuum, Steve better than Tom but let's stay on task

So Montana, amazing pre-and-post snap.


Montana was much more mobile*, mobility is a thing that is also good right? Just like all the other things that go into quarterbacking, right?

*Have to wonder if Brady statue would have lasted two seasons the way he moves out there.


Montana fought off a HOFer for his job, and had a psycho coach who tried to play mind-games with his great QBs in ways that just wouldn't happen in this era. Imagine BElicgeck insisting on keeping Jimmy G and then making them alternate series' and halves, all the while cracking jokes in the media?

Montana had a better arm and less blown big moments than Tom. Splitting hairs? Yes, but if we are counting Tom's aggregate big moments let's also count his overthrows to open guys that cost titles.

And as has been said a million times, Montana played in a different era so it's very difficult to compare.

I could go on.

Tom is one of the best ever.

I don't see evidence of GOAT

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84. "Bruh, Montana had his moments of EPIC failure stop. "
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you've never been able to reconcile him getting benched IN HIS PRIME during a playoff game because he absolutely lost the team the game. for whatever reason, he was not himself.

Tom not on this list

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000628679/article/ten-worst-playoff-performances-by-qbs-in-the-modern-era


And just because it didn't happen in the SB don't mean it didn't happen.

for all the romanticizing, joe threw for a paltry ass 150 yards against cincy for his first ring.

joe was trash against the giants in 85. and WAY MORE trash against them in 87. if tom brady got his ass beat by 40+ and threw for 98 yards and two picks...man, stop.


you are valiant in your efforts, dogg. i give you that. but i grew up s montana fan. i have EXCELLENT recall. he's not better than brady.

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86. "Word."
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>
>you've never been able to reconcile him getting benched IN HIS
>PRIME during a playoff game because he absolutely lost the
>team the game. for whatever reason, he was not himself.
>
>Tom not on this list
>
>http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000628679/article/ten-worst-playoff-performances-by-qbs-in-the-modern-era
>
>
>And just because it didn't happen in the SB don't mean it
>didn't happen.
>
>for all the romanticizing, joe threw for a paltry ass 150
>yards against cincy for his first ring.
>
>joe was trash against the giants in 85. and WAY MORE trash
>against them in 87. if tom brady got his ass beat by 40+ and
>threw for 98 yards and two picks...man, stop.
>
>
>you are valiant in your efforts, dogg. i give you that. but i
>grew up s montana fan. i have EXCELLENT recall. he's not
>better than brady.

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87. "My Dude! Amen!"
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.
.
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89. "RE: Bruh, Montana had his moments of EPIC failure stop. "
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WAIT WAIT DID BRADY NOT HAVE EPIC FAILURES ON HIS WAY TO THE SUPERBOWL

GTFOH


Who lost to the bum ass Jets????


Who got they lunch stole by bitch ass Eli Manning in the Super Bowl?


Who just went out there and looked like the corpse of Alex Smith and won ANYWAY because Belicheck is the best?

Let's not even get into the fumble against the Raiders or all the mediocre performances that Tom Brady has skated by on because Belicheck.



>you've never been able to reconcile him getting benched IN HIS
>PRIME during a playoff game because he absolutely lost the
>team the game. for whatever reason, he was not himself.

Walsh would bench anyone. Next.



>And just because it didn't happen in the SB don't mean it
>didn't happen.

Tom threw two picks against the Broncos and averaged like 2 yards per completion on the way to a paltry 18 points in a loss to the ghost of Peyton Manning.

Tom got BLOWN THE FUCK OUT AT HOME by the Ravens and a rookie Joe Flacco dog!!!!!

JOE FLACCO!!!!!

Yo, what was Tom's stats tho, I know you wondering?

23-42, 154 yards, 2 TD, 3 INT

THEY LOST AT HOME 33-14


Please leave me this argument alone, man, this aint it.


>
>for all the romanticizing, joe threw for a paltry ass 150
>yards against cincy for his first ring.

Different league. And let's not get into the realm of examining game-manager Brady's early works.

>
>joe was trash against the giants in 85. and WAY MORE trash
>against them in 87. if tom brady got his ass beat by 40+ and
>threw for 98 yards and two picks...man, stop.

Did Tom play against LT, Belicheck, Parcells and half the HOF? In an era where you could actually legitimately cheap shot QBs every play?

No?

LOL!!!!!!

He lost to Flacco at home in a blowout…please stop


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90. "All I see are excuses. “Different league”....please"
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I have no problem admitting when Brady was bad and cost his team, because he got 6.

You reduced to saying dumb shit like Walsh “would bench anyone”

Pathetic

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91. "RE: All I see are excuses. “Different league”....please"
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LOL nice plea cop buddy

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92. "Plea cop? You can even admit when Montana is terrible"
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He’s legit had several games worse than any Brady has ever had in the postseason and you run to “different eras” and Walsh’s inclinations towards benching. He ain’t bench no other offensive starter in that game. He benched JOE. Because Joe was absolute garbage.

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95. "Desperation."
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Brady makes them fucking *manic*. Got this dude in his bedroom watching VHS tapes of all playoff games like "Brady overthrew Welker on 3rd and 4 with 2:57 left in the 3rd quarter of the 2012 AFC Championship game ! Joe NEVER overthrew a receiver in 27 degree, partly cloudy weather on grass in a playoff game !"

These idiots literally think that every one of Brady's 6 Super Bowls, 30 playoff wins, 207 career wins, 3 MVPs, 590 TDs, 81,700 yards, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc were all the result of luck. Just luck, that's it. Zero talent, anyone could do it. I mean look at that clown's post above. Buuuuunch of whiny ass excuses. "Psh he was lucky in the Snow Bowl. He lucky he had his kicker. His coach. The refs. Receivers. Bad division. Bad conference. Bad league. Divine intervention." Wahhhhhhhhh. He's so accomplished that to explain *all* of his success away would take months. But damn if they don't try !

Desperate, suuuuuuuuuuuuuper angry halfwits.

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96. "RE: Plea cop? You can even admit when Montana is terrible"
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Of course he had a bad game, so what, clearly so has Brady

>He’s legit had several games worse than any Brady has ever
>had in the postseason and you run to “different eras” and
>Walsh’s inclinations towards benching. He ain’t bench no
>other offensive starter in that game. He benched JOE. Because
>Joe was absolute garbage.

Joe never got blown out at home by Joe Flacco, TOM did.

I am unsure why this single bad game and benching is somehow supposed to supersede everything else I listed as why I put Joe above Tom? Just because you say so?

Sorry, but no.

And the idea that you are going to throw out OFFENSIVE STATS and then decry me mentioning eras is just completely idiotic and disingenuous. In the fucking NFL?

Is Matthew Stafford's 5K the same as Marino's??

Of course Brady isn't having any 120 yard passing games. No one is!

If you bring stats into a discussion of NFL offense over different eras, then "different league" is not only a reasonable point but it actually is NECESSARY for any reasonable debate.

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97. "Joe got blown out at home by the ringless WADE WILSON"
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and he got his ass BENCHED.

You have no where to turn.

NO ONE IS HAVING 120 yard GAMES? didn’t Legion of Boom lock Fraudgers dumb ass up a few years back for about 150 and get shredded by Brady two weeks later.

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98. "RE: Joe got blown out at home by the ringless WADE WILSON"
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>and he got his ass BENCHED.
>
>You have no where to turn.

The benching is the strangest and least effective "deal-sealer" I can imagine. Especially considering that Walsh would pull Joe all the time to play Young for no apparent reason.

If Walsh sitting Joe is your trump card, so be it lol. I don't get it and don't see it having the talisman-like significance you are suggesting.


>NO ONE IS HAVING 120 yard GAMES? didn’t Legion of Boom lock
>Fraudgers dumb ass up a few years back for about 150 and get
>shredded by Brady two weeks later.

You tell me?

And then explain to me if the exception proves the rule?

And let me know if you think comparisons of NFL offensive stats across eras should take into account the way the league has changed during that time?


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101. "6 rings is the deal sealer. not having the GOAT WR for YEARS, too"
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tom gotta lotta deal sealers. you just think you can talk them away.

98 yards and two picks in a 40+ loss. disgusting.

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103. "Tom had those games too, its just his coaching staff bailed him out"
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104. "and not one tom fans cops pleas about it. "
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and he ain't have no damn 98, 2int game

or even them other two trash games against the giants. he ain't have them games.

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110. "RE: 6 rings is the deal sealer. not having the GOAT WR for YEARS, too"
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Number of rings aint enough in the NFL

Emmitt Smith isn't the GOAT and people don't even agree he is better than Barry ringless ass


Not having Rice IS actually an argument, but it's a different league. Elite teams were stacked then, in ways they aren't now. It's just a fact. The Bears had a whole defense on Hall-of-Famers. It was just how teams were built.

But hey, Tom had the GOAT time head coach and GM, not Bill Walsh off his meds.

and the fact remains,


Joe more mobile

Joe has stronger arm

Joe threw with more touch

Joe had his best games on the biggest stage

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116. "it is at QB when you have all the postseason passing records. bye"
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141. "RE: it is at QB when you have all the postseason passing records. bye"
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Aggregate stats?


In football?


Because he played more years in a league where QBs are protected instead of being crash dummies?


You are right to hurry off


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144. "montana had those aggregate stats once...which is why he was GOAT"
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148. "RE: montana had those aggregate stats once...which is why he was GOAT"
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>
No, Marino had the stats, Montana was still the GOAT.


People had eyes and common sense

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153. "i was talking about playoffs/superbowl stats"
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156. "RE: i was talking about playoffs/superbowl stats"
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>

Point stands either way.

He has the unimpeachable SB performances and spotless records.

Or we can just go ahead and look at stats in context and Tom isn't passing Joe that way either.

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158. "so, so does Phil Simms...unimpeachable. no one cares. "
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you can take that "context" shit elsewhere. it was all good 5 years ago when everyone was sure Tom's run was over. he was gonna stay stuck on 3 and joe would still have 4.

then, brady exploded.

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159. "RE: so, so does Phil Simms...unimpeachable. no one cares. "
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>
>you can take that "context" shit elsewhere. it was all good 5
>years ago when everyone was sure Tom's run was over. he was
>gonna stay stuck on 3 and joe would still have 4.

I am not responsible for what anyone else said but I am sorry that you are mad.

>
>then, brady exploded.

Dramatic!


Doesn't negate any part of my argument but sounds exciting.


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160. "you mad tom still playing and making the gap larger"
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161. "RE: you mad tom still playing and making the gap larger"
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I'm really not.


The longer he plays, in many ways, the more it shows how different this league is from that one.



And I am not a Joe Montana fan. I don't have to be a Jim Brown fan to say Emmitt isn't better than him.



You guys are gonna try this same thing with LeBron and Jordan; and judging by how eagerly this thread has been lapped up, it might even work.

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162. "yeah, it's always different, yet joe was better than unitas/starr"
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and tom is better than both of them.

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85. "."
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72. "The "short passes" thing is such a strange knock on him"
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That and "All he needs is to get in field goal range at the end of the game." Already a bad talking point, but regardless I thought the Falcons Super Bowl deaded that forever. People like to play dumb, I guess.

>
>-brady's patience is undervalued. he takes those quick-hitters
>for 5-7 yards because they're there and there's no need to get
>greedy looking for huge gains

Right, he needs to throw bombs all the time just to impress people? We know he CAN it's just not the best idea 99% of the time.

  

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75. "RE: The "short passes" thing is such a strange knock on him"
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>That and "All he needs is to get in field goal range at the
>end of the game." Already a bad talking point, but regardless
>I thought the Falcons Super Bowl deaded that forever. People
>like to play dumb, I guess.

And the Seahawks one. He dominated both.


>Right, he needs to throw bombs all the time just to impress
>people? We know he CAN it's just not the best idea 99% of the
>time.

It's so stupid. And not to mention - HE DID THAT SHIT. He's had middle-of-the-line receivers his whole career but the one time he had a burner he set the record for TDs in a season.

So he did that shit, too. And they didn't win a chip so they went back to basics because, as proven by P. Manning, Rodgers, Marino, et al, off-script missile-launchers aren't a long-term winning formula.

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73. "we'll never see it. he's the Kobe Bryant of football"
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elevated because of rings and circumstance. there are people (even currently playing) better than SysTom at these things, and they don't play in the Belichick system or the AFC East and thus have free entry into playoffs every year.

all that says is that he's a Minecraft player who found football instead; even looks the part

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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106. "lol, you're the maddest person on planet earth right now"
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I love ya Doc, but goddamn...

  

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69. "No, JORDAN RULE IN EFFECT"
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Disclaimer: I'm on one and mad at this blasphemy.

Montana undefeated so that ends your argument by itself. Jordan rule is the common rule oldheads use to shit on younger players.
Brady has to win five maybe six at most games a year outside of his division to make the playoffs. More often than not division games are guaranteed wins. They get a guaranteed playoff spot every year regardless of the schedule.

He is a system QB. Matt Cassel looked great in that system as well. How the fuck this alleged goat get outdueled by Nick Foles? This dude is the most overrated QB in NFL history.

  

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71. "Lmao, the "division" argument always gets me"
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A) In any given year most of the divisions in the NFL "suck". Lately there's like 2 good divisions.

B) What typically happens when they face off against teams from other divisions? They win... a lot. Y'all act like they have a .500 record against everyone else. They don't just get a bye to the Super Bowl guys.

  

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77. "It's a baseless argument, like all these crying idiots' arguments."
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Since Bill Belichick took over as coach of the New England Patriots, the team has gone on an incredible run. As it stands right now they don't have a losing record against any team in the NFL. In fact outside of the Panthers (3-3) and the Giants (3-3), they have a winning record against every other team.

Now, one of the main arguments for this has been that the Patriots have benefitted from playing in a weak division/conference. Being able to beat up on the lowly Bills, Dolphins and Jets has "padded" their record. Or "they wouldn't be as good if they were in the NFC." I'm about to show you why that's not the truth.

Patriots Win Percentage
The Patriots are a staggering 248-86 against the NFL since 2000, which equates to a .743 win percentage. So as a whole, the NFL has not done particularly well against the Pats.

If we break it down by conference, it looks like this:

Conference Win - Loss Win Percentage
AFC 187 - 64 .745
NFC 61 - 22 .735
So even with a smaller sample size, the conference breakdowns are pretty much even. Let's break it down by divisions.

Division Win - Loss Win Percentage
AFC South 41 - 9 .820
NFC South 17 - 5 .773
AFC North 32 - 10 .762
AFC East 83 - 29 .741
NFC West 14 - 5 .737
NFC North 16 - 6 .727
NFC East 14 - 6 .700
AFC West 31 - 16 .660

A few things stand out.

The AFC South has performed dismally against the Patriots, which even includes the Peyton Manning era Colts.

The Patriots difficulty with the Broncos (10-9) is the main reason the AFC West is at the bottom of this list.

The AFC East is smack dab in the middle of this list. Not nearly the cakewalk that the AFC South provides.

AFC East vs Everybody
This really only proves that the AFC East is just as bad as everyone else against the Patriots. But let's take it one step further. How has the rest of the AFC East performed vs other divisions since 2000? (Note: These numbers are through the end of the 2017 season).

Division W - L - T Win Percentage
AFC East 609 - 543 - 0 .520
NFC East 593 - 557 - 2 .515
NFC South 578 - 572 - 2 .502
AFC North 577 - 571 - 4 .501
AFC West 570 - 582 - 0 .495
NFC North 567 - 583 - 2 .492
AFC South 548 - 572 - 0 .489
NFC West 543 - 605 - 4 .471

Ok, this isn't really fair since we're including the Patriots in this. Obviously, if we remove the Patriots from the results the AFC will plummet:

Division W - L - T Win Percentage
NFC East 593 - 557 - 2 .515
NFC South 578 - 572 - 2 .502
AFC North 577 - 571 - 4 .501
AFC West 570 - 582 - 0 .495
NFC North 567 - 583 - 2 .492
AFC South 548 - 572 - 0 .489
NFC West 543 - 605 - 4 .471
AFC East 395 - 469 - 0 .457

But again, this isn't fair to the AFC East. What happens when we remove every season's division winners from each division?

Division W - L - T Win Percentage
AFC East 395 - 469 - 0 .457
NFC East 390 - 472 - 2 .451
NFC South 394 - 501 - 2 .439
AFC North 368 - 493 - 4 .425
AFC South 365 - 499 - 0 .422
AFC West 363 - 501 - 0 .420
NFC North 361 - 502 - 2 .417
NFC West 347 - 515 - 4 .401

Huh. The AFC East is back on top when you remove the best team from each division, which leads me to believe that the rest of the AFC East hasn't been "easy" by any stretch. In fact, it almost looks like the Patriots have played in the most competitive division in football over the past 17 years, and have still managed to put up historic numbers.

Edit: there's been a lot of conversation about how it was unfair to remove the division winner for each season, and the comparison should be removing the best teams from each division since 2000. So let's put that one to rest, too:

Division W - L - T Win Pct Best Team
NFC East 421 - 442 - 1 .487 Eagles (172-115-1)
NFC South 421 - 441 - 2 .487 Saints (157-131-0)
AFC West 401 - 463 - 0 .464 Broncos (169-119-0)
AFC East 395 - 469 - 0 .457 Patriots (214-74-0)
AFC North 389 - 472 - 3 .450 Steelers (188-99-1)
NFC North 389 - 474 - 1 .450 Packers (178-109-1)
AFC South 368 - 464 - 0 .442 Colts (180-108-0)
NFC West 382 - 479 - 3 .442 Seahawks (161-126-1)

Regardless how you run the numbers the AFC East is still not the easiest division, by a long shot.

Hopefully this puts to rest the myth of the "easy" AFC East.

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76. "LOL at the Foles argument."
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>Disclaimer: I'm on one and mad at this blasphemy.
>
>Montana undefeated so that ends your argument by itself.
>Jordan rule is the common rule oldheads use to shit on younger
>players.
>Brady has to win five maybe six at most games a year outside
>of his division to make the playoffs. More often than not
>division games are guaranteed wins. They get a guaranteed
>playoff spot every year regardless of the schedule.
>
>He is a system QB. Matt Cassel looked great in that system as
>well. How the fuck this alleged goat get outdueled by Nick
>Foles? This dude is the most overrated QB in NFL history.

Dying @ how a QB can throw for 500+ yards in a record-setting effort and *still* get shit on because his defense couldn't stop a nose-bleed/his also-GOAT coach made the shittiest decision in league history. You people are desperate and pathetic.

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114. "I would never take a shot at Nick."
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Nick saved NFL fans from an off-season of Brady as GOAT hot takes. The GOAT should've beaten the Eagles since he's so great. Meanwhile Nick played the best game of his career and trashed that overrated team.

Did y'all Eagle fans give Nick the legend status he deserves?

  

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78. "Matt Cassell looked great? let's use that baseline"
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sure...so Cassell put up 3700 yards, 21 TDs and 11 INTs in 2008. great season.

Tom Brady in 2007 only did 1000 more yards, 30 more TDs and 3 fewer INTS with the same main offensive talent (moss, welker, faulk, maroney/morris is basically even meh-ness at RB). oh, and they went 16-0 and went to the super bowl.

In 2009, returning from a year-long injury, Brady took that same team again and put up 600 more yards than Cassell, 7 more TDs and only 2 more INTs.

So yes, the system made Cassell great. And Tom was still definitively worlds better with the same system and players the year before and still significantly a tier above with the same system and players the year after but also returning from a year-long injury.

how does that help your point? when montana went down for half a season in 1986, Jeff Fucking Kemp did basically what Cassell did that half season.

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79. "they ain't make the playoffs. i dunno why people bring it up"
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80. "Just another in a loooong line of stupid, baseless, desperate arguments."
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88. "Desperation. Like Holla'in at the ugly girl before they leave the club"
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99. "31 other QB's could've won that game for the Patriots last Sunday."
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100. "Kewl. What about SB 49 ? Or 51 ? Or 38 ?"
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How many you think could've won those ?

You think all those guys could've taken on the fucking Broncos in SB 24 yawnfest ? Or the overmatched Dolphins in 19 ?

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102. "36 for sure."
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105. "you need to worry about them 31 others winning it for the rams"
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tom's defense was his pau.

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81. "RE: No, JORDAN RULE IN EFFECT"
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Jordan Rule would be 6. Not 6-0, just 6. the championship losses shouldn't be counted against anyone. Wins are better yes, but coming in 2nd shouldn't be worse than coming in 5th. Nobody cares about Magic's finals losses. He got 5, that's all that matters.

Lebron would love to get to 6. He probably won't and if he does it will be lining up with other superstars and will have detractors. Kobe wanted 6. He didn't care he lost a couple finals.

Brady got 6. 2 more than any other QB ever. No other QB been to more than 5. Oh, he's been to 9.

Eras also matter I get that. Bill Russell was a different era for NBA. If people want to prop Joe up more cuz this era is softer that's fine. Brady is the best of the last 25 years and not close any more.

  

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107. "o ok so once more losing in the first round>losing in the SB/finals"
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dumbest fucking argument in sports and you, fittingly, are the one to bring it up as the dumbest fucking person on earth.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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121. "I'm sorry for the disrespectful Cowboy fans..."
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Aikman and Young better as well. Go undefeated then have a seat at the table.

  

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82. "If you're responding seriously to the "nos""
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You're doing it wrong.

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108. "I'll say it again, Unitas, Montana, Brady"
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Best of each era. All greats. Perfect evolutionary track for football's development. None perfect (who is), but no need tearing any down to big up another. If you needed to win a game, you would go to any one of them and they would deliver.

  

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109. "If he ends up on the Jets instead of the Pats is he even in the convo?"
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111. "What QB couldn't you make this argument about?"
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I could retroactively throw Montana on the Bucs and argue he wouldn't do shit and then you'd say "no, actually he'd make them great and they'd win a bunch of trophies"... but what's the point? Neither of us could be proven wrong or right, and similarly, nothing you do is gonna take away Brady's 6 titles. I know you'll keep trying though.

  

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113. "Would Montana play DE on the Bucs tho?"
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115. "He would play outfield for the Devil Rays"
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117. "Montana was great the short time he was with the Chiefs until he got hur..."
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Peyton showed that he could get it done anywhere.

I feel people like Brees, Marino and Favre would've been great anywhere.

I don't see Tom being great without Belicheat.

  

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118. "peyton showed how to choke a lot, too"
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119. "He set records in Denver and won another chip, I think Tom's success..."
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is directly tied to Belicheat, he would be just a guy on another team.

  

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120. "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OK. Now we get it."
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Never heard that before.

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123. "so a guy who doesn't play makes Brady falsely great..."
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but Peyton's numbers throwing to prime DThomas/Welker/Decker/JThomas are definitive about something?

que interesante

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125. "also none of the other modern QBs have benefited "
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from favorable rules for offenses. Just Brady. Brees, Manning, and all the others would put up the same numbers in the 80's, but Brady would be average at best.

  

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127. "LOL"
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122. "lol, well that settles it!"
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>I don't see Tom being great without Belicheat.

  

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126. "those same chiefs were *better* with Steve Bono the next year"
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STEVE BONO.

  

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128. "LOL"
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129. "talk about it"
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131. "Facts!"
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132. "^^^ducktales, the team had a better record because they had the #1..."
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defense that year but Bono did not have better passing numbers.

  

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134. "nigga,better is better....stop crying"
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135. "11-5 w/o Brady. 3-1 w/o Brady....just sayin."
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136. "Missed playoffs. Shutout by the Bills. Just saying."
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137. "People really still capping for... Matt Cassel? Lmao"
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138. "Haha. They're doing a lot of desperate things."
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139. "In his defense, he's just saying. "
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140. "that's the same logic that makes Brady the GOAT"
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142. "you think the defense sucked the year before?"
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the offense scored 40 more points in 1995 compared to 1994.

the offense improved PPG almost identically to the defense between 1994 and 1995 and that was against a more difficult schedule, btw.

Montana: 3200 yards, 16/9 in 14 games
Bono: 3100 yards, 21/10 in 16 games

STEVE BONO.

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143. "RE: you think the defense sucked the year before?"
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>the offense scored 40 more points in 1995 compared to 1994.
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>the offense improved PPG almost identically to the defense
>between 1994 and 1995 and that was against a more difficult
>schedule, btw.
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>Montana: 3200 yards, 16/9 in 14 games
>Bono: 3100 yards, 21/10 in 16 games
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>STEVE BONO.


Montana was still BETTER and a shell of himself at 37-38 years old

  

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146. "yes, montana was slightly better than Steve Bono"
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super-impressive of him
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147. "at 38 years old..."
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>super-impressive of him

  

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149. "And Brady was MVP and threw for 505 yards in the SB at 40yo."
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150. "I knew this was coming, Brady is the GOAT of the longevity game no doubt"
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151. "I knew this was coming."
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He's the GOAT of the entire game.

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154. "remember when he had three around 2014 and they would take "
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a hatchet to his career, like...."yeah, he won a buncha titles his first 7 years, but this is who he REALLY is...he can't win without the cheats"

whatever

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155. "Haha right. Goalposts keep on movin'."
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152. "Dude, He's the GOAT regardless of age"
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157. "He CHEATED. His legacy is tainted forever."
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isaaaa
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112. "I think Brady wins on any team,"
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he might not have 6 rings, but he's an accurate QB who can take a hit. Put him on the 0-16 Browns and they win 9 games.

  

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124. "Baker better"
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>Put him on the 0-16 Browns and they win 9 games.

and absent a kicker fuck up, and the refs gifting a game to Oakland, they would have won 10 games last season

we'll see next season, and KOPT taking that L

  

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130. "Bro, Those edibles must be Killer"
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133. "We've established that he is MAD, but why?"
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Dude is an Eagles fan, they'll probably win the SB again next season lol...why the anger?


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145. "the only team I can see Boody winning on is one like the Giants"
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with an elite pass rush/defense.

or other teams that have a consistent identity of sorts, like the Steelers or Donkeys.

but a team that's been all over the place like the Browns? As slow and reliant on a disciplined system he is? Nah.

he definitely ain't winning in Green Bay, where you basically have to LeBron yourself to wins cause the coach is dumb af

as for the Eagles? we'll see.

don't let them go up 2-1 on the Cheatriots in the Super Bowl because that's gonna be the end of it all

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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