https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/01/16/dukes-zion-williamson-should-shut-it-down-until-nba-draft-says-scottie-pippen/?utm_term=.7c0c326c1583

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-bulls-scottie-pippen-zion-williamson-duke-20190116-story.html

https://youtu.be/GLmiYXEyKHI?t=279

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Last thing he should do is try to win the one championship he likely has a shot at before being sent to the gulags in Cleveland or Phoenix.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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If you can't understand it without an explanation

you can't understand it with an explanation

I know we have a couple knee guys on here.

Like, this dude is putting a lot of weight on those knees. Especially with the high-flying acrobatics and such. I know nothing, but it seems like his weight + athleticism isn't the best combination long term re: knees.

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If he played for pretty much anyone else though....hell no!

but that's not what he's there to do.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

But the kid wants to compete and play with his friends.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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he be aight.

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He tried to jog off his injury and go back into the game today. Kid wants to compete with his friends before his pro career starts this summer, so if he's healthy, he'll play.

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>He tried to jog off his injury and go back into the game
>today. Kid wants to compete with his friends before his pro
>career starts this summer, so if he's healthy, he'll play.

He doesn’t give a fuck about playing with some dudes he just met a few months ago when 9 figure contracts are on the line lol

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

Zion's known Barrett, Reddish, and Jones for years. He's been friends with Barrett and Reddish since before Duke. He's said repeatedly in interviews that he would never sit out because he's loving competing with his friends.

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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>Zion's known Barrett, Reddish, and Jones for years. He's been
>friends with Barrett and Reddish since before Duke. He's said
>repeatedly in interviews that he would never sit out because
>he's loving competing with his friends.

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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

After he got hurt at Duke. Why should Zion?

LeBron's fam had like a 10 mil insurance policy on him his senior year. They got it because Bron got bridged by some kid on a fast break during a game and broke his wrist his Junior year.

Kyrie got hurt early in the year but came back at the end of the season.

Zion's family should just get the insurance and let him rock. Hopefully he's good to go for Cuse on Saturday.


The more important thing here is we kicked that ass. Convincingly. Even without Zion they are pretty damn good and we embarrassed their asses at home. Heels bitch!

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had the level of hype that Zion does right now.


Pros were not showing up to see Kyrie play.

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Kyrie was consensus #1 before Dukes season even started and was still that when he came back.

LeBron has 2 yrs of hype and was still consensus #1 even after Carmelo let Syracuse to a national title.

Zion wasn't even #1 coming into the season. It was Barrett.

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>Kyrie was consensus #1 before Dukes season even started and
>was still that when he came back.
>
>LeBron has 2 yrs of hype and was still consensus #1 even after
>Carmelo let Syracuse to a national title.


I could be wrong but I feel like there was still debate at that point. Still hype for Kyrie was nowhere near what it is for Zion. I know Lebron was getting serious NBA hype from his sophomore year on but I don't think he became the consensus #1 pick until later.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
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>I could be wrong but I feel like there was still debate at
>that point. Still hype for Kyrie was nowhere near what it is
>for Zion. I know Lebron was getting serious NBA hype from his
>sophomore year on but I don't think he became the consensus #1
>pick until later.

Kyrie was actually #2 coming into the season (like Zion) but played his way to #1 even after missing 26 games:

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=205007411

-Ranked tied for second by the Recruiting Services Consensus Index
-Rated in the top five overall by Scout.com (No. 2), ESPNU 100 (No. 3) and Rivals.com (No. 4)

But that draft:
#1) Kyrie
#2) Derrick Williams (played his way here by destroying Duke in the tourney)
#3) Enes Kanter (Never played a game in college)
#4) Tristan Thompson

Easy to go #1 with that lot and he had it locked even before he came back from injury.

LeBron on the other had had waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more Hype than Zion. Dude had a SI cover his junior season:

https://www.si.com/nba/photos/2011/09/07lebron-james-in-high-school#16

http://www.espn.com/gen/news/2002/0608/1392628.html

AKRON, Ohio -- LeBron James, considered the nation's top high school basketball player, broke his left wrist during an AAU game Saturday in Chicago and won't be able to play for 6-to-8 weeks.

James, Ohio's Mr. Basketball the past two years who has already been on the cover of Sports Illustrated, was attempting a dunk with 11:19 left in a game when he was bumped by C.J. Walleck, a player for Chicago Rising Stars.

James, who will be a senior this fall at Akron's St. Vincent-St. Mary High School, landed hard on his wrist. He lay on the floor for several minutes before being taken by ambulance to Northwestern Memorial Hospital.

Eddie Jackson, a friend of the James family, confirmed that James broke his wrist and that he had been told he would be sidelined for up to two months.

"He's OK," Jackson said. "When he comes back, we'll see everything and go over everything."

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Stop it

when Lebron vs. Carmelo was an actual debate.

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I doubt it and I stanned for Melo from the jump - the only year I ever cared about college basketball was the year he played. The only reason people entertained idiots like me was because his Denver team had a top ten offense and winning record the minute he stepped on the floor, but the leap Bron made in year three wrapped that argument up pretty quickly and was exactly what you should've expected if you had the #1 pick in '03.


Drafting Darko over Melo was stupid as shit but they don't have a word for how stupid it would've been to draft Melo over LeBron.


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and yes he was on the cover of SI then but at that point he wasn't the consensus #1 pick.

And yes even into their first couple of years in the NBA Lebron vs. Carmelo was still a thing

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That's why I pointed at Year 3 of LeBron. I kept fighting all the way through that WCF against the Lakers for Melo, but even I knew I was bluffing most of those years.


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>I know Lebron was getting serious NBA hype from his
>sophomore year on but I don't think he became the consensus #1
>pick until later.

people that don't even watch the NBA (me) knew he would be the #1 overall pick

he was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (back when this was a big deal) as a high school JUNIOR

he had one of his high school game broadcast nationally on ESPN in primetime, which was unheard of

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and irving was also a pretty consensus #1, very little debate there though perhaps more than Melo vs LeBron. Let's remind everyone that Melo didn't even go second.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

and I’ve NEVER seen a dude’s shoe just come apart like that in an actual game.

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>and I’ve NEVER seen a dude’s shoe just come apart like
>that in an actual game.

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Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

the heads at Nike are rolling this morning?

Everybody from the school shoe rep, to the execs, to the factory workers that made the shoes, to the truck driver that delivered the shoes, everybody is being called on the carpet this morning.

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One Hundred.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qNeNzaD5YE

Blake's joints ripped a hole thru his

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBM0bN5jW-g

Both were Nike. Kinda crazy to consider when D.Rose went thru his
knee problems Adidas caught hell. Wonder how this plays out with Nike.

Personally I think Zion should be in these

https://www.flightclub.com/kobe-9-elite-dark-base-grey-black-mdnight-fg-042102

My guy needs some agile combat boots

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qNeNzaD5YE
>
>Blake's joints ripped a hole thru his
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBM0bN5jW-g
>
>Both were Nike. Kinda crazy to consider when D.Rose went thru
>his
>knee problems Adidas caught hell. Wonder how this plays out
>with Nike.
>
>Personally I think Zion should be in these
>
>https://www.flightclub.com/kobe-9-elite-dark-base-grey-black-mdnight-fg-042102
>
>My guy needs some agile combat boots
>
>

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
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and they'll still end up signing Zion most likely. put him in some lebron style battletanks and he'll be aight.

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for not making or convincing Zion to play in something more sturdy like a LeBron. Those PG’s with the soft, flexible material uppers aren’t made for guys like Zion.

i always figured those dudes were glorified laundry men and fetchers more than anything. at least that's what my buddy that did it for NC State football made it sound like.

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for different NBA and college teams and I recall some of them talking like they’ve got some pull. That might’ve been the NBA guys moreso.

In looking around, I found one on Duke though....

http://youtu.be/RCoP0VfZJ5k

this ain't like PJ Tucker having an amazing collection that he balls in. I thought he had to wear whatever shoe the school had a deal for.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

the different shoes they had. Being a Nike school, they had LeBrons, KDs, Kyries, PGs, Kobe’s, Hyperdunks, etc.

I would assume he’d be able to get any of their recent models.

in that case...he shoulda been in some Lebron 15's...with the same outrigger as Bron's pairs. Joints are damn near perfect.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

If that includes having fun being a college kid for a year and playing with his friends before becoming a professional who is scrutinized 24/7, sure.

There have been better players before him that played college and there will be better players after him that will play in college.

I’m sure he’s insured.

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>If that includes having fun being a college kid for a year
>and playing with his friends before becoming a professional
>who is scrutinized 24/7, sure.

he's played like 20 games with these dudes y'all act like he's been there 4 years.

And at this point he IS scrutinized 24/7 anyway, Zion is on ESPN more than Lebron.

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And hundreds of pro games.

He chose to go to Duke for a reason. He wanted to go to Duke. His scrutiny is college star fame. It ain’t KD snapping at a nigga for asking him about his Instagram comments game.

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>And hundreds of pro games.
>
>He chose to go to Duke for a reason.

yes because the current rules states that you have to be 1 year removed from high school and he didn't want to go overseas.

If he could've went straight to the NBA he would have and skipped playing with his "friends".

Lebron didn't go to Akron for a year to play with Dru Joyce.

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He said he wanted to go to college though.

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you guys are talking about that he wants to "play with his 'friends'" is just that bs lol.

At this point putting a few hundred million on the line for a handful of tournament games is silly. The NCAA and college fanboys like you and Frank Longo care why more about this college shit than these kids do. For them it is a means to an end.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

He talks about college in a way a lot of OADs don't.

"I always knew I wanted to go to college. Even if they'd have the NBA rule still, I still woulda came to college. Once you go to the league, it's grown men now, with kids and families. It's not just teenagers having fun, it's business then."

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Duke uniform again.

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You wouldn’t be you if you didn’t.

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... that he's worded it carefully enough to not actually take a stance on anything. "I wouldn't be surprised if"-- okay, so he'll claim a "victory" if that happens, but if it doesn't, then it's "well, I didn't really know!" Way to take a stand!

They also announced it's a Grade 1 sprain and he's only day-to-day. But at least he got to up this terrific post! lol

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>... that he's worded it carefully enough to not actually take
>a stance on anything. "I wouldn't be surprised if"-- okay, so
>he'll claim a "victory" if that happens, but if it doesn't,
>then it's "well, I didn't really know!" Way to take a stand!
>
>They also announced it's a Grade 1 sprain and he's only
>day-to-day. But at least he got to up this terrific post! lol

I have no idea what the kid will do, I'm not a doctor, I haven't examined him and I'm not one of his advisers.

I'm just stating my opinion but the fact that actual professional players tend to agree with me makes me comfortable with my position.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

>I have no idea what the kid will do, I'm not a doctor, I
>haven't examined him and I'm not one of his advisers.
>
>I'm just stating my opinion but the fact that actual
>professional players tend to agree with me makes me
>comfortable with my position.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

over random quotes from a teenager that's been coached to say all the right things.

The bottom line is Zion HAD TO GO TO COLLEGE for 1 year regardless of what he "wanted" to do. If he could've went straight to the league he would have. Lebron talked about wanting to play for OSU but he didn't though because it would've been stupid.

Zion would rather be playing against his "friends" in the NBA with a multi-million dollar contract.

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"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

your debating?

That is worthless, but you rather us consider the fictional dialogue created by a forty-something year old man who knows nothing about Zion Williamson?

Gotcha.

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