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"Should Zion sit out the rest of the season?"


  

          

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/01/16/dukes-zion-williamson-should-shut-it-down-until-nba-draft-says-scottie-pippen/?utm_term=.7c0c326c1583

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-bulls-scottie-pippen-zion-williamson-duke-20190116-story.html

https://youtu.be/GLmiYXEyKHI?t=279

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Well, if Scottie Pippen says so
Jan 16th 2019
1
Scottie thinking about Zion’s future, instead of Future. Smh
Jan 16th 2019
2
LOL
Jan 16th 2019
3
Nice
Jan 16th 2019
9
lol
Jan 16th 2019
13
sure. counts for us either way.
Jan 16th 2019
4
Might as well avoid that Duke Tourney L
Jan 16th 2019
5
has there ever been a discussion about this guys knees?
Jan 16th 2019
6
fuck no.
Jan 16th 2019
7
umm...sure
Jan 16th 2019
8
imo after that first game at kentucky
Jan 16th 2019
10
^^^ this. He could’ve sat all season and been Top 5 minimum.
Jan 16th 2019
11
LOL facts AF though
Feb 21st 2019
55
Of course
Jan 16th 2019
12
No
Jan 17th 2019
14
?
Feb 20th 2019
15
naw just wear some lebrons.
Feb 20th 2019
16
Yep...get Bron to send him like twenty pairs of 15’s...
Feb 20th 2019
17
Reply 10 still applies.
Feb 20th 2019
18
      And that’s totally not from a Duke basketball fan perspective lol...
Feb 21st 2019
21
           Apparently, he does.
Feb 21st 2019
23
                lmao right?
Feb 21st 2019
34
                did you talk to him?
Feb 21st 2019
35
                He's been playing all season so apparently he does
Feb 21st 2019
41
                     I'm talking since last night
Feb 21st 2019
43
                          Are you saying he gonna sit out the rest of the year?
Feb 21st 2019
49
                Also, AAU basketball exists.
Feb 21st 2019
46
                     But did YOU talk to him????
Feb 21st 2019
47
                     we'll see.
Feb 21st 2019
48
whoa.
Feb 21st 2019
19
LeBron didn't sit out his senior year and Kyrie didn't call it a season
Feb 21st 2019
20
Neither of those guys were consensus #1 picks at that point and...
Feb 21st 2019
22
      You getting old fam... You just don't remember
Feb 21st 2019
25
           RE: You getting old fam... You just don't remember
Feb 21st 2019
27
                Hell, I'm getting old too lol
Feb 21st 2019
30
                Lebron is the most consensus #1 in history family
Feb 22nd 2019
88
                you more than anybody should remember that there was a time...
Feb 24th 2019
127
                     in the draft, though?
Feb 25th 2019
141
                          the original post replied to was going back to Bron's jr year in hs...
Feb 25th 2019
144
                               Yea, I was on the frontlines in my dorm hall over Melo
Feb 25th 2019
146
                lol, WTF
Feb 22nd 2019
109
Definitely a L for Nike, I’ve been watching basketball a LONG time...
Feb 21st 2019
24
Never. Not even outside on a rough blacktop court
Feb 21st 2019
26
Obviously we hope the kid is ok but can you imagine how...
Feb 21st 2019
28
was it a fresh pair or a pair he had worn for a period of time?
Feb 21st 2019
29
Ginolbili had the exploding kicks
Feb 21st 2019
31
damn all Nikes too...
Feb 21st 2019
32
not an L. just embarrassing. The swoosh will rule all.
Feb 21st 2019
33
I wonder if the Duke equipment manager takes any heat....
Feb 21st 2019
38
      do equipment managers have any actual input?
Feb 21st 2019
39
      Don’t know, I’ve watched some of these sneaker centered videos....
Feb 21st 2019
42
      I could be wrong, but does he get a choice of kicks? I mean...
Feb 21st 2019
57
           in the video I linked above the Duke equipment manager was going thru...
Feb 21st 2019
74
                my bad for not watching the video...
Feb 21st 2019
79
Zion should do whatever he wants to do.
Feb 21st 2019
36
I feel like you college guys are overhyping this angle lol...
Feb 21st 2019
40
College Guys? Lol I watch 40 college games a year.
Feb 21st 2019
50
      RE: College Guys? Lol I watch 40 college games a year.
Feb 21st 2019
52
      Did he say any of that? Lmao.
Feb 21st 2019
60
           bottom line if Zion could be in the NBA right now he would. All this bs....
Feb 21st 2019
62
                Zion has repeatedly said he'd have come to college anyway.
Feb 21st 2019
63
                     I stand on what I said and wouldn’t be surprised if he never put on a....
Feb 21st 2019
65
                          Of course you stand on a statement you made up.
Feb 21st 2019
66
                               He's standing so firmly on it, in fact...
Feb 21st 2019
67
                               RE: He's standing so firmly on it, in fact...
Feb 21st 2019
71
                                    RE: He's standing so firmly on it, in fact...
Mar 15th 2019
161
                               That means I'm not going to go back and forth with you guys...
Feb 21st 2019
68
                                    So to you, a random quote is a direct quote on the exact topic...
Feb 21st 2019
69
                                         lmao
Feb 21st 2019
72
                                         Lolololol
Feb 21st 2019
84
                                         Literally what else is he going to say? "I would rather be in the NBA......
Feb 21st 2019
73
                                              There’s literally 1,000s of other players who have not said that.
Feb 21st 2019
76
                                                   what's the percentage of top 5 projected one and done players...
Feb 21st 2019
77
                                                   RE: There’s literally 1,000s of other players who have not said that.
Feb 21st 2019
80
                                                        Damn, almost kept replying.
Feb 21st 2019
81
                                                             thanks, we’re obviously on opposite ends of this and are not going...
Feb 21st 2019
82
                                                                  Did they tell you that?
Feb 21st 2019
85
                                                                       Lmao! ***VInce Carter It's Over gif***
Feb 21st 2019
86
                                                                       Actually they did...
Feb 22nd 2019
89
                                                                       Our fairytale? Lmao! You do realize who you’re talking to right?
Feb 22nd 2019
98
                                                                            Cosign every point.
Feb 22nd 2019
99
                                                                            RE: Cosign every point.
Feb 22nd 2019
100
                                                                            You're wrong.
Feb 22nd 2019
101
                                                                            You really SHOULD stop replying lol...
Feb 22nd 2019
103
                                                                            Cool. I'll make this the end of it, then.
Feb 22nd 2019
104
                                                                            RE: Cool. I'll make this the end of it, then.
Feb 22nd 2019
105
                                                                            Ncaa is against one and done. You think these coaches want to be recruit...
Feb 22nd 2019
106
                                                                       RE: Did they tell you that?
Feb 22nd 2019
97
      “Don’t cry, dry your eyes...”
Feb 21st 2019
53
           Why would I be mad over this?
Feb 21st 2019
61
If he's insured, then why not? If that's what he wants to do
Feb 21st 2019
59
Terrible time for a shoe to fail
Feb 21st 2019
37
OKS needs more of this
Feb 21st 2019
45
I like the PG's too, but that's a bad look
Feb 21st 2019
70
I bet he plays in the tournament, and plays hard too
Feb 21st 2019
44
I would sit til the sweet 16
Feb 21st 2019
51
      It's Duke, they might lose before the Sweet 16, not kidding
Feb 21st 2019
56
           No doubt
Feb 21st 2019
58
           Duke's been in the Sweet 16 fifteen of the last twenty years.
Feb 21st 2019
64
                You get paid for this Duke cockbuffery? Hell you barely got a GED
Feb 21st 2019
75
                     ... I graduated from Duke, lmao.
Feb 21st 2019
78
                          Oh you LiT lol
Feb 21st 2019
83
sit and chill
Feb 21st 2019
54
Day after NBA lowes the draft age to 18
Feb 22nd 2019
87
It's funny to think about what college ball would be without the OAD
Feb 22nd 2019
91
Dude should do what he chooses. On the other hand, Boogie sounded...
Feb 22nd 2019
90
RE: Dude should do what he chooses. On the other hand, Boogie sounded...
Feb 22nd 2019
92
Fact of the matter is that they don't have to go to college before going...
Feb 22nd 2019
93
      Yeah. The NCAA is still the “best” way to raise your profile for a y...
Feb 22nd 2019
94
           Indeed it is. I agree but it ain't the only way to do it.
Feb 22nd 2019
96
                True.
Feb 22nd 2019
108
Cold hard facts: Boogie Cousins is an asshole and a loser
Feb 22nd 2019
107
      He's also worked his ass off and is supremely skilled
Feb 23rd 2019
116
           But he is an asshole, and I’m not a “white supremacist dick”
Feb 25th 2019
145
                You're trying to invalidate his points. STOP IT.
Feb 25th 2019
148
Zion to collect $8m if he slips below the 16th pick in this upcoming dra...
Feb 22nd 2019
95
It won't come to that, obviously.
Feb 22nd 2019
102
People still go back and forth with Truth?
Feb 22nd 2019
110
I know, I know.
Feb 23rd 2019
111
sorry no random bogus medical evaluations were solicited...
Feb 23rd 2019
112
Did anyone order a backwards homophobic take?
Feb 24th 2019
134
      Not really sure what that has to do with this post but I guess that's...
Feb 24th 2019
136
           Glad to see no argument for your rampant bigotry.
Feb 24th 2019
138
                *response*
Feb 24th 2019
140
Yes, we all know he's a fucking bozo. My bad.
Feb 23rd 2019
113
      You're literally the king of pointless back and forths on this board.
Feb 23rd 2019
114
HOLD UP. What is the argument that she should still play?
Feb 23rd 2019
115
Let me catch you up
Feb 23rd 2019
117
“He wants to play with his friends” lol
Feb 23rd 2019
119
I refuse to believe Frank Longo and RBO are that unintelligent.
Feb 23rd 2019
121
      Lmao... we talking intelligence yet you believing with this nigga...
Feb 23rd 2019
122
           The wanting to go to Duke logic starts with your reply 36
Feb 23rd 2019
123
           You dumb nigga. Did I say he's owes some responsibility to Duke or...
Feb 23rd 2019
124
                RE: You dumb nigga...trying to deflect from your reply
Feb 24th 2019
125
                     You fucking moron. You did make it up.
Feb 24th 2019
128
                          I heard Zion wants to be a professional pole dancer
Feb 24th 2019
130
                               Then, he should become a pole dancer. He's very strong and athletic....
Feb 24th 2019
137
                                    LMAOOO. So y'all just giving up, I see.
Feb 25th 2019
143
           Haha
Feb 24th 2019
132
The convo was more what will he do
Feb 23rd 2019
118
      So does EVERYONE AGREE that he SHOULD shut it down?
Feb 23rd 2019
120
           Nah the more interesting question is what will he actually do
Feb 24th 2019
126
                Again: He might WANT to peform in 'Hamilton'.
Feb 24th 2019
129
                     What he wants to fo is relevant bc its the biggest
Feb 24th 2019
131
                          Yep, dude might want to chase an NCAA title
Feb 24th 2019
133
                               Melo has an NCAA title. Kyrie & Lebron don't. Zion don't care.
Feb 24th 2019
135
                                    And i'm sure when Melo look back on his career
Feb 24th 2019
139
                                         I'm sure Lebron is pround of his middle school chip.
Feb 25th 2019
142
                                         Exactly...good thing he didnt sit out.
Feb 25th 2019
147
                                              Lebron sat out college, big man.
Feb 25th 2019
150
                                                   Lol YOU brought up his middle school chip einstein.
Feb 25th 2019
151
                                         He should be, because its the only chip he'll have.
Feb 25th 2019
149
                                              Which is an argument for why zion should play
Feb 25th 2019
152
                                              oh no, whatever shall he do?
Feb 25th 2019
153
Guess he did wanna play with his friends.
Mar 15th 2019
154
its always surprising to me when...
Mar 15th 2019
155
      So N. Bosa is not a "competitor" who "wanted to play with friends?"
Mar 15th 2019
156
           lol thats not how inverse logic works
Mar 15th 2019
158
           Bwahaha. Y'all done resorted to outright lying
Mar 15th 2019
162
                what are you even taking about?
Mar 15th 2019
165
           If longevity & safety are a concern he should also play 1 game a week.
Mar 15th 2019
159
                Only play at half speed, no practice.
Mar 15th 2019
160
                Zion protection plan
Mar 15th 2019
164
                LMAO. This happens *IN THE PROS* for many young players
Mar 15th 2019
163
this young brotha is such a joy to watch fam.
Mar 15th 2019
157
They need to put him in Space Jam 2, tbh.
Mar 15th 2019
166
Must-see TV
Mar 15th 2019
167

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1. "Well, if Scottie Pippen says so"
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Last thing he should do is try to win the one championship he likely has a shot at before being sent to the gulags in Cleveland or Phoenix.

  

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2. "Scottie thinking about Zion’s future, instead of Future. Smh"
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3. "LOL"
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9. "Nice"
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13. "lol"
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4. "sure. counts for us either way. "
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5. "Might as well avoid that Duke Tourney L"
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6. "has there ever been a discussion about this guys knees?"
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I know we have a couple knee guys on here.

Like, this dude is putting a lot of weight on those knees. Especially with the high-flying acrobatics and such. I know nothing, but it seems like his weight + athleticism isn't the best combination long term re: knees.

  

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7. "fuck no."
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8. "umm...sure"
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If he played for pretty much anyone else though....hell no!

  

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10. "imo after that first game at kentucky"
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but that's not what he's there to do.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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11. "^^^ this. He could’ve sat all season and been Top 5 minimum."
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But the kid wants to compete and play with his friends.

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55. "LOL facts AF though"
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12. "Of course"
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14. "No"
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shut up already, damn

  

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15. "?"
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16. "naw just wear some lebrons."
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17. "Yep...get Bron to send him like twenty pairs of 15’s..."
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he be aight.

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18. "Reply 10 still applies. "
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He tried to jog off his injury and go back into the game today. Kid wants to compete with his friends before his pro career starts this summer, so if he's healthy, he'll play.

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21. "And that’s totally not from a Duke basketball fan perspective lol..."
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>He tried to jog off his injury and go back into the game
>today. Kid wants to compete with his friends before his pro
>career starts this summer, so if he's healthy, he'll play.

He doesn’t give a fuck about playing with some dudes he just met a few months ago when 9 figure contracts are on the line lol

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23. "Apparently, he does. "
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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34. "lmao right?"
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35. "did you talk to him?"
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41. "He's been playing all season so apparently he does"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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43. "I'm talking since last night"
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49. "Are you saying he gonna sit out the rest of the year?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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46. "Also, AAU basketball exists. "
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Zion's known Barrett, Reddish, and Jones for years. He's been friends with Barrett and Reddish since before Duke. He's said repeatedly in interviews that he would never sit out because he's loving competing with his friends.

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47. "But did YOU talk to him????"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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48. "we'll see."
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>Zion's known Barrett, Reddish, and Jones for years. He's been
>friends with Barrett and Reddish since before Duke. He's said
>repeatedly in interviews that he would never sit out because
>he's loving competing with his friends.

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19. "whoa."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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20. "LeBron didn't sit out his senior year and Kyrie didn't call it a season"
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After he got hurt at Duke. Why should Zion?

LeBron's fam had like a 10 mil insurance policy on him his senior year. They got it because Bron got bridged by some kid on a fast break during a game and broke his wrist his Junior year.

Kyrie got hurt early in the year but came back at the end of the season.

Zion's family should just get the insurance and let him rock. Hopefully he's good to go for Cuse on Saturday.


The more important thing here is we kicked that ass. Convincingly. Even without Zion they are pretty damn good and we embarrassed their asses at home. Heels bitch!

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22. "Neither of those guys were consensus #1 picks at that point and..."
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had the level of hype that Zion does right now.


Pros were not showing up to see Kyrie play.

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25. "You getting old fam... You just don't remember"
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Kyrie was consensus #1 before Dukes season even started and was still that when he came back.

LeBron has 2 yrs of hype and was still consensus #1 even after Carmelo let Syracuse to a national title.

Zion wasn't even #1 coming into the season. It was Barrett.

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27. "RE: You getting old fam... You just don't remember"
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>Kyrie was consensus #1 before Dukes season even started and
>was still that when he came back.
>
>LeBron has 2 yrs of hype and was still consensus #1 even after
>Carmelo let Syracuse to a national title.


I could be wrong but I feel like there was still debate at that point. Still hype for Kyrie was nowhere near what it is for Zion. I know Lebron was getting serious NBA hype from his sophomore year on but I don't think he became the consensus #1 pick until later.

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30. "Hell, I'm getting old too lol"
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>I could be wrong but I feel like there was still debate at
>that point. Still hype for Kyrie was nowhere near what it is
>for Zion. I know Lebron was getting serious NBA hype from his
>sophomore year on but I don't think he became the consensus #1
>pick until later.

Kyrie was actually #2 coming into the season (like Zion) but played his way to #1 even after missing 26 games:

http://www.goduke.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&ATCLID=205007411

-Ranked tied for second by the Recruiting Services Consensus Index
-Rated in the top five overall by Scout.com (No. 2), ESPNU 100 (No. 3) and Rivals.com (No. 4)

But that draft:
#1) Kyrie
#2) Derrick Williams (played his way here by destroying Duke in the tourney)
#3) Enes Kanter (Never played a game in college)
#4) Tristan Thompson

Easy to go #1 with that lot and he had it locked even before he came back from injury.

LeBron on the other had had waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more Hype than Zion. Dude had a SI cover his junior season:

https://www.si.com/nba/photos/2011/09/07lebron-james-in-high-school#16

http://www.espn.com/gen/news/2002/0608/1392628.html

AKRON, Ohio -- LeBron James, considered the nation's top high school basketball player, broke his left wrist during an AAU game Saturday in Chicago and won't be able to play for 6-to-8 weeks.

James, Ohio's Mr. Basketball the past two years who has already been on the cover of Sports Illustrated, was attempting a dunk with 11:19 left in a game when he was bumped by C.J. Walleck, a player for Chicago Rising Stars.

James, who will be a senior this fall at Akron's St. Vincent-St. Mary High School, landed hard on his wrist. He lay on the floor for several minutes before being taken by ambulance to Northwestern Memorial Hospital.

Eddie Jackson, a friend of the James family, confirmed that James broke his wrist and that he had been told he would be sidelined for up to two months.

"He's OK," Jackson said. "When he comes back, we'll see everything and go over everything."

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88. "Lebron is the most consensus #1 in history family"
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Stop it

  

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127. "you more than anybody should remember that there was a time..."
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when Lebron vs. Carmelo was an actual debate.

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141. "in the draft, though?"
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I doubt it and I stanned for Melo from the jump - the only year I ever cared about college basketball was the year he played. The only reason people entertained idiots like me was because his Denver team had a top ten offense and winning record the minute he stepped on the floor, but the leap Bron made in year three wrapped that argument up pretty quickly and was exactly what you should've expected if you had the #1 pick in '03.


Drafting Darko over Melo was stupid as shit but they don't have a word for how stupid it would've been to draft Melo over LeBron.


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144. "the original post replied to was going back to Bron's jr year in hs..."
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and yes he was on the cover of SI then but at that point he wasn't the consensus #1 pick.

And yes even into their first couple of years in the NBA Lebron vs. Carmelo was still a thing

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146. "Yea, I was on the frontlines in my dorm hall over Melo"
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That's why I pointed at Year 3 of LeBron. I kept fighting all the way through that WCF against the Lakers for Melo, but even I knew I was bluffing most of those years.


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109. "lol, WTF"
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>I know Lebron was getting serious NBA hype from his
>sophomore year on but I don't think he became the consensus #1
>pick until later.

people that don't even watch the NBA (me) knew he would be the #1 overall pick

he was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (back when this was a big deal) as a high school JUNIOR

he had one of his high school game broadcast nationally on ESPN in primetime, which was unheard of

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24. "Definitely a L for Nike, I’ve been watching basketball a LONG time..."
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and I’ve NEVER seen a dude’s shoe just come apart like that in an actual game.

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26. "Never. Not even outside on a rough blacktop court"
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>and I’ve NEVER seen a dude’s shoe just come apart like
>that in an actual game.

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28. "Obviously we hope the kid is ok but can you imagine how..."
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the heads at Nike are rolling this morning?

Everybody from the school shoe rep, to the execs, to the factory workers that made the shoes, to the truck driver that delivered the shoes, everybody is being called on the carpet this morning.

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29. "was it a fresh pair or a pair he had worn for a period of time?"
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31. "Ginolbili had the exploding kicks"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qNeNzaD5YE

Blake's joints ripped a hole thru his

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBM0bN5jW-g

Both were Nike. Kinda crazy to consider when D.Rose went thru his
knee problems Adidas caught hell. Wonder how this plays out with Nike.

Personally I think Zion should be in these

https://www.flightclub.com/kobe-9-elite-dark-base-grey-black-mdnight-fg-042102

My guy needs some agile combat boots

  

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32. "damn all Nikes too..."
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qNeNzaD5YE
>
>Blake's joints ripped a hole thru his
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBM0bN5jW-g
>
>Both were Nike. Kinda crazy to consider when D.Rose went thru
>his
>knee problems Adidas caught hell. Wonder how this plays out
>with Nike.
>
>Personally I think Zion should be in these
>
>https://www.flightclub.com/kobe-9-elite-dark-base-grey-black-mdnight-fg-042102
>
>My guy needs some agile combat boots
>
>

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33. "not an L. just embarrassing. The swoosh will rule all. "
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and they'll still end up signing Zion most likely. put him in some lebron style battletanks and he'll be aight.

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38. "I wonder if the Duke equipment manager takes any heat...."
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for not making or convincing Zion to play in something more sturdy like a LeBron. Those PG’s with the soft, flexible material uppers aren’t made for guys like Zion.

  

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39. "do equipment managers have any actual input?"
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i always figured those dudes were glorified laundry men and fetchers more than anything. at least that's what my buddy that did it for NC State football made it sound like.

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42. "Don’t know, I’ve watched some of these sneaker centered videos...."
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for different NBA and college teams and I recall some of them talking like they’ve got some pull. That might’ve been the NBA guys moreso.

In looking around, I found one on Duke though....

http://youtu.be/RCoP0VfZJ5k

  

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57. "I could be wrong, but does he get a choice of kicks? I mean..."
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this ain't like PJ Tucker having an amazing collection that he balls in. I thought he had to wear whatever shoe the school had a deal for.

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74. "in the video I linked above the Duke equipment manager was going thru..."
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the different shoes they had. Being a Nike school, they had LeBrons, KDs, Kyries, PGs, Kobe’s, Hyperdunks, etc.

I would assume he’d be able to get any of their recent models.

  

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79. "my bad for not watching the video..."
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in that case...he shoulda been in some Lebron 15's...with the same outrigger as Bron's pairs. Joints are damn near perfect.

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36. "Zion should do whatever he wants to do."
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If that includes having fun being a college kid for a year and playing with his friends before becoming a professional who is scrutinized 24/7, sure.

There have been better players before him that played college and there will be better players after him that will play in college.

I’m sure he’s insured.

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40. "I feel like you college guys are overhyping this angle lol..."
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>If that includes having fun being a college kid for a year
>and playing with his friends before becoming a professional
>who is scrutinized 24/7, sure.

he's played like 20 games with these dudes y'all act like he's been there 4 years.

And at this point he IS scrutinized 24/7 anyway, Zion is on ESPN more than Lebron.

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50. "College Guys? Lol I watch 40 college games a year. "
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And hundreds of pro games.

He chose to go to Duke for a reason. He wanted to go to Duke. His scrutiny is college star fame. It ain’t KD snapping at a nigga for asking him about his Instagram comments game.

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52. "RE: College Guys? Lol I watch 40 college games a year. "
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>And hundreds of pro games.
>
>He chose to go to Duke for a reason.

yes because the current rules states that you have to be 1 year removed from high school and he didn't want to go overseas.

If he could've went straight to the NBA he would have and skipped playing with his "friends".

Lebron didn't go to Akron for a year to play with Dru Joyce.

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60. "Did he say any of that? Lmao."
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He said he wanted to go to college though.

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62. "bottom line if Zion could be in the NBA right now he would. All this bs...."
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you guys are talking about that he wants to "play with his 'friends'" is just that bs lol.

At this point putting a few hundred million on the line for a handful of tournament games is silly. The NCAA and college fanboys like you and Frank Longo care why more about this college shit than these kids do. For them it is a means to an end.

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63. "Zion has repeatedly said he'd have come to college anyway. "
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He talks about college in a way a lot of OADs don't.

"I always knew I wanted to go to college. Even if they'd have the NBA rule still, I still woulda came to college. Once you go to the league, it's grown men now, with kids and families. It's not just teenagers having fun, it's business then."

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65. "I stand on what I said and wouldn’t be surprised if he never put on a...."
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Duke uniform again.

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66. "Of course you stand on a statement you made up."
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You wouldn’t be you if you didn’t.

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67. "He's standing so firmly on it, in fact..."
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... that he's worded it carefully enough to not actually take a stance on anything. "I wouldn't be surprised if"-- okay, so he'll claim a "victory" if that happens, but if it doesn't, then it's "well, I didn't really know!" Way to take a stand!

They also announced it's a Grade 1 sprain and he's only day-to-day. But at least he got to up this terrific post! lol

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71. "RE: He's standing so firmly on it, in fact..."
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>... that he's worded it carefully enough to not actually take
>a stance on anything. "I wouldn't be surprised if"-- okay, so
>he'll claim a "victory" if that happens, but if it doesn't,
>then it's "well, I didn't really know!" Way to take a stand!
>
>They also announced it's a Grade 1 sprain and he's only
>day-to-day. But at least he got to up this terrific post! lol

I have no idea what the kid will do, I'm not a doctor, I haven't examined him and I'm not one of his advisers.

I'm just stating my opinion but the fact that actual professional players tend to agree with me makes me comfortable with my position.

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161. "RE: He's standing so firmly on it, in fact..."
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>I have no idea what the kid will do, I'm not a doctor, I
>haven't examined him and I'm not one of his advisers.
>
>I'm just stating my opinion but the fact that actual
>professional players tend to agree with me makes me
>comfortable with my position.

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68. "That means I'm not going to go back and forth with you guys..."
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over random quotes from a teenager that's been coached to say all the right things.

The bottom line is Zion HAD TO GO TO COLLEGE for 1 year regardless of what he "wanted" to do. If he could've went straight to the league he would have. Lebron talked about wanting to play for OSU but he didn't though because it would've been stupid.

Zion would rather be playing against his "friends" in the NBA with a multi-million dollar contract.

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69. "So to you, a random quote is a direct quote on the exact topic..."
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your debating?

That is worthless, but you rather us consider the fictional dialogue created by a forty-something year old man who knows nothing about Zion Williamson?

Gotcha.

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72. "lmao "
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>That is worthless, but you rather us consider the fictional
>dialogue created by a forty-something year old man who knows
>nothing about Zion Williamson?

Him: "Here's what Zion would do."
Zion: "Here's what I would do."

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84. "Lolololol"
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Truth be all "did he tell you that"

And then

"Of course what else is he gonna say"

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73. "Literally what else is he going to say? "I would rather be in the NBA......"
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"making millions but because of a stupid racist rule I have live in a shitty college dorm in Durham, NC for a few months and play for free while everybody else makes millions off me."

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76. "There’s literally 1,000s of other players who have not said that."
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But hey, put on your flat top wig & Duke jersey and perform your One Man show “I Am Zion”.

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77. "what's the percentage of top 5 projected one and done players..."
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that return to school to "play with their friends"?

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80. "RE: There’s literally 1,000s of other players who have not said that."
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btw I feel like your statement actually made my point lol

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81. "Damn, almost kept replying."
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I keep forgetting who I'm talking to. My bad.

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82. "thanks, we’re obviously on opposite ends of this and are not going..."
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to agree.

But trust and believe the silent majority here that hates to publicly agree with me feels the same as do most professional basketball players.

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85. "Did they tell you that?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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86. "Lmao! ***VInce Carter It's Over gif***"
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89. "Actually they did..."
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links are posted throughout this post plus if you’ve watched any NBA show on tv in the last 36 hours they’re basically saying the same things I’m saying in this post.

I know the college guys are here because they want to keep they’re fairytale world going and you’re just here being your normal troll self but facts are facts.

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98. "Our fairytale? Lmao! You do realize who you’re talking to right?"
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I have ZERO incentive in Zion playing another game.

You can open up the draft to HS players. I don’t care. I can’t speak for Russ, but he probably doesn’t care either.

Russ is gonna watch 200 something games with or without OAD. And be up late watching some mid-major conference games on a Tuesday.

I’m watching UK no matter who’s on the team. All 5-stars. All 4-stars. It don’t matter. We getting kids.

Me and Russ are saying, Zion should do what he wants to do.

And you want him to do, what you think is right.

Your entire argument is rather silly.

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99. "Cosign every point."
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>You can open up the draft to HS players. I don’t care. I
>can’t speak for Russ, but he probably doesn’t care
>either.

I don't care if players go straight to pro. In fact, I want that rule gone sooner rather than later.

>Russ is gonna watch 200 something games with or without OAD.
>And be up late watching some mid-major conference games on a
>Tuesday.

HEY IT'S USUALLY DUKE ON TUESDAY. But yes, lmao.

>I’m watching UK no matter who’s on the team. All 5-stars.
>All 4-stars. It don’t matter. We getting kids.

Right, it's not like losing one-and-done means that talent won't come to college. It may not be as college-ready, but anyone who thinks it'd hurt the blue bloods in the *slightest* is insane.

>Me and Russ are saying, Zion should do what he wants to do.

As everyone should. The idea that a casual viewer or pundit knows what's best for Zion better than Zion knows what's best for Zion is more than a little patronizing. The kid ain't a dummy by a longshot. He knows the risks.

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100. "RE: Cosign every point."
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>Right, it's not like losing one-and-done means that talent
>won't come to college. It may not be as college-ready, but
>anyone who thinks it'd hurt the blue bloods in the *slightest*
>is insane.

isn't the reason they instituted the 1 year removed fom hs because the NCAA and college coaches were crying about talent going straight to the pros?

>>Me and Russ are saying, Zion should do what he wants to do.
>
>As everyone should. The idea that a casual viewer or pundit
>knows what's best for Zion better than Zion knows what's best
>for Zion is more than a little patronizing. The kid ain't a
>dummy by a longshot. He knows the risks.

Only I've NEVER said I know what's best for him. I just said you guys were overplaying the "he wants to play with his friends" angle which you were.

Whatever Zion does his between him, his doctors, his parents, his coach, and his other advisers. I could care less I just offered an opinion and you guys got all up in arms like you normally do.

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101. "You're wrong."
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>isn't the reason they instituted the 1 year removed fom hs
>because the NCAA and college coaches were crying about talent
>going straight to the pros?

This, literally, isn't the reason. The NCAA had nothing to do with it. It's an NBA rule.

>Only I've NEVER said I know what's best for him. I just said
>you guys were overplaying the "he wants to play with his
>friends" angle which you were.

The video interview in which Zion states plainly his desire to play college ball in order to do exactly that has already been posted in this thread, and it's not the only time he's said that. You're wrong.

> I just
>offered an opinion and you guys got all up in arms like you
>normally do.

Neither RBO nor I are saying Zion *shouldn't* sit out. We're saying he should do what he wants. And you continue to dispute that stance for reasons unknown. The only logical conclusion is that you think Zion's own words aren't a reflection of how Zion feels. Which is, quite obviously, strange.

I know I shouldn't keep replying, because this is like trying to win a tennis match against a brick wall. Just wanted to point out once more that you've said a myriad of wrong things in this post.

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103. "You really SHOULD stop replying lol..."
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>This, literally, isn't the reason. The NCAA had nothing to do
>with it. It's an NBA rule.

No shit sherlock but you can act like college hoops doesn't have a vested interest all you want but we know that's not the case. College basketball is a billion dollar business you know that better than anyone. We know that just from the aftermarket ticket prices of Wednesday night's game.

>The video interview in which Zion states plainly his desire to
>play college ball in order to do exactly that has already been
>posted in this thread, and it's not the only time he's said
>that. You're wrong.

Teenagers say shit all the time, athletes are programmed at an early age to say what they think people want to hear. If Zion could be in the NBA right now he would be and you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

Anthony Davis said "all 29 teams" were on his list but we know damn well he's not going to Memphis or Cleveland.

>Neither RBO nor I are saying Zion *shouldn't* sit out. We're
>saying he should do what he wants. And you continue to dispute
>that stance for reasons unknown. The only logical conclusion
>is that you think Zion's own words aren't a reflection of how
>Zion feels. Which is, quite obviously, strange.

That's literally what I've said all along, I have no agenda here, obviously you do.

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104. "Cool. I'll make this the end of it, then."
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>No shit sherlock but you can act like college hoops doesn't
>have a vested interest all you want but we know that's not the
>case. College basketball is a billion dollar business you know
>that better than anyone. We know that just from the
>aftermarket ticket prices of Wednesday night's game.

I didn't say college hoops doesn't have a vested interest in money. You said, "isn't the reason they instituted the 1 year removed fom hs because the NCAA and college coaches were crying about talent going straight to the pros?" And the answer to that is, no, that isn't the reason. The reason is easily Googlable. Here's something from the top result of a Google search:

From WaPo: "The one-and-done rule began in 2005, when Silver was deputy commissioner under David Stern. It stipulated one of two age requirements a player must meet to be eligible for the draft: Either the player must turn 19 before or during the calendar year of the draft, or the player must be one year removed from high school graduation unless he met the criteria for international players.

There had been a handful of players since the 1970s to jump to the NBA directly out of high school, most notably Moses Malone and Darryl Dawkins. It became a trend beginning in 1995, when Kevin Garnett was taken fifth overall by the Minnesota Timberwolves. Three high schoolers — Kwame Brown in 2001, LeBron James in 2003 and Dwight Howard in 2004 — were selected No. 1 overall.

When eight of the top 19 picks in 2004 were high schoolers, Stern began a push to get an age requirement into the next collective bargaining agreement. Stern’s initial proposal was to require that players turn 20 before entering the draft, but he eventually settled for what became known as the “one-and-done” rule. The NBA no longer would spend its time scouting in high school gyms and would have a more physically and mentally mature group of players coming into the league every year."

That's the reason. Literally never had anything to do with the NCAA.

>>Neither RBO nor I are saying Zion *shouldn't* sit out. We're
>>saying he should do what he wants. And you continue to
>dispute
>>that stance for reasons unknown. The only logical conclusion
>>is that you think Zion's own words aren't a reflection of
>how
>>Zion feels. Which is, quite obviously, strange.
>
>That's literally what I've said all along, I have no agenda
>here, obviously you do.

Right, you're completely agenda-free, and we have the nefarious agenda of trusting a player's ability to make his own career choices. What an awful agenda to have!

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105. "RE: Cool. I'll make this the end of it, then."
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>I didn't say college hoops doesn't have a vested interest in
>money. You said, "isn't the reason they instituted the 1 year
>removed fom hs because the NCAA and college coaches were
>crying about talent going straight to the pros?" And the
>answer to that is, no, that isn't the reason. The reason is
>easily Googlable. Here's something from the top result of a
>Google search:
>
>From WaPo: "The one-and-done rule began in 2005, when Silver
>was deputy commissioner under David Stern. It stipulated one
>of two age requirements a player must meet to be eligible for
>the draft: Either the player must turn 19 before or during the
>calendar year of the draft, or the player must be one year
>removed from high school graduation unless he met the criteria
>for international players.
>
>There had been a handful of players since the 1970s to jump to
>the NBA directly out of high school, most notably Moses Malone
>and Darryl Dawkins. It became a trend beginning in 1995, when
>Kevin Garnett was taken fifth overall by the Minnesota
>Timberwolves. Three high schoolers — Kwame Brown in 2001,
>LeBron James in 2003 and Dwight Howard in 2004 — were
>selected No. 1 overall.
>
>When eight of the top 19 picks in 2004 were high schoolers,
>Stern began a push to get an age requirement into the next
>collective bargaining agreement. Stern’s initial proposal
>was to require that players turn 20 before entering the draft,
>but he eventually settled for what became known as the
>“one-and-done” rule. The NBA no longer would spend its
>time scouting in high school gyms and would have a more
>physically and mentally mature group of players coming into
>the league every year."
>
>That's the reason. Literally never had anything to do with the
>NCAA.

And if you actually believe that I have beachfront property in Missouri for sale.

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106. "Ncaa is against one and done. You think these coaches want to be recruit..."
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Like that every season? Theymir job is 1000x eeasier if the kids stayed 3 years.

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97. "RE: Did they tell you that?"
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59. "If he's insured, then why not? If that's what he wants to do"
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I mean we're worried about his future, right? So if he gets his paper straight either way and wants to play, then cool.

If he doesn't want to, I fully understand that as well.



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45. "OKS needs more of this "
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44. "I bet he plays in the tournament, and plays hard too"
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that kid is great man. I've never appreciated a Dukie like I appreciate him. He's got the spirit of Marvin Hagler or whoever. He'll play.

  

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51. "I would sit til the sweet 16"
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He's got nothing to prove...other than he's healthy

As evident last night, the gap between him and the next prospect is large

This Duke class has been heralded all year as an all time great

They should be able to win 2 games in the tourney without him

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58. "No doubt"
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But if they don't look like they can contend for a chip...I'd sit

that's why I'm saying wait until the sweet 16

A team with 2 top 5 prospects should be able to win 2 games

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64. "Duke's been in the Sweet 16 fifteen of the last twenty years."
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More often than any other program in that time frame.

But "Insert Mercer Meme Here" is a fun way to part from reality.

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75. "You get paid for this Duke cockbuffery? Hell you barely got a GED"
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78. "... I graduated from Duke, lmao."
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54. "sit and chill"
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everybody done ate off him, so he need to make sure he can take care of his family down the line.

  

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87. "Day after NBA lowes the draft age to 18"
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i think they said it would not be effective for a few years, but they don't want these kids to get injured and lose their share of the cake.

  

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91. "It's funny to think about what college ball would be without the OAD"
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players.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2019/02/21/nba-draft-eligible-age-limit-proposal-18-years-old/2942228002/

At the July NBA owners’ meeting, Silver told reporters: “My personal view is that we’re ready to make that change. … When I’ve weighed the pros and cons, given that Condoleezza Rice and her Commission (On College Basketball) has recommended to the NBA that those one-and-done players now come directly into the league, and in essence the college community is saying we do not want those players anymore. That sort of tips the scale in my mind that we should be taking a serious look at lowering our age to 18.”

Straight from HS to the NBA use to be somewhat of a rarity. You might have 5-7 players test it out and only a handful of them pan out.

But today? The one and done players are likely mostly good pro prospects. I think the G-League becomes uber important now that there will be much more draft entrance by these guys.

I read somewhere that they where considering going back to 3 rounds for the draft with the 3rd round being guys they'd put in the G-league to develop. I think that's the right move.

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90. "Dude should do what he chooses. On the other hand, Boogie sounded..."
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dumb to me. None of these kids have to go to college before entering the draft. They could go overseas to ply their trade for a year.

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92. "RE: Dude should do what he chooses. On the other hand, Boogie sounded..."
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>dumb to me. None of these kids have to go to college before
>entering the draft. They could go overseas to ply their trade
>for a year.

Actually that sounds dumb, that overseas life is generally not all its cracked up to be for most people.

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93. "Fact of the matter is that they don't have to go to college before going..."
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>RE: Dude should do what he chooses. On the other hand, Boogie sounded...
>>dumb to me. None of these kids have to go to college before
>>entering the draft. They could go overseas to ply their
>trade
>>for a year.
>
>Actually that sounds dumb, that overseas life is generally not
>all its cracked up to be for most people.
>

the NBA. It's clear, from the what NCAA claims, that their game is not a breeding ground (minor league) for the NBA. The rules are the rules. And those rules don't say that a kid has to go to college to play in the NBA. They just have to be one year removed from HS graduation to do so.

Overseas? The Globetrotters? The YMCA near your house? LA Fitness?

So, yeah. Boogie sounded dumb. Being overseas may not be what some believe it is. Nothing is when you're working your way from the ground up. Shit wasn't sweet in your chosen career either when you were first starting. You earn your way to the top. You think the long rides on the bus is sweet for minor league baseball players? Nope.

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94. "Yeah. The NCAA is still the “best” way to raise your profile for a y..."
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...if you already live in the states.

shut up already, damn

  

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96. "Indeed it is. I agree but it ain't the only way to do it. "
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>RE: Yeah. The NCAA is still the “best” way to raise your profile for a year
>...if you already live in the states.

And that's all I'm pointing out. Boogie made it seem as if he these kids are being forced to play in the NCAA. They're not. And I'm not shedding a tear for them regardless of what they choose. Some of these kids built their following through AAU basketball. Them playing one year in the NCAA ain't changing nothing.

Straight up... Zion got the hype but I don't see what's so special about his game that he projects to be GREAT at the next level. Dude has been doing the same things, this year, that he was doing in AAU over the last few years. Maybe I just don't get too excited about these one and done players. Way more of them fail (don't live up to the hype) than they do succeed (live up to it). Look at all of those UK players form the last decade.

Let's just be real about the fact that they're not being forced to. So, he jumped out there because he's, seemingly, got his own pent up frustration about things that happened during his college years.

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108. "True. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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107. "Cold hard facts: Boogie Cousins is an asshole and a loser"
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He’ll ride these Golden State coattails to a title this year, sure. Then it’s off to, like, Charlotte or whatever where he can settle back into his passive aggressive underachieving and coach-killing ways

  

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116. "He's also worked his ass off and is supremely skilled"
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You guys are all white supremacist dicks

This is so weird

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145. "But he is an asshole, and I’m not a “white supremacist dick”"
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Wild flagrant way to disagree with somebody bud, chill

  

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148. "You're trying to invalidate his points. STOP IT. "
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>Wild flagrant way to disagree with somebody bud, chill

He's a very hard working professional who is among the
top 1% of people to ever try and be good at his job.

Stop acting like his opinion don't count just because he
frowns on the court and barks at ref

You guys are such dicks

Stop

  

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95. "Zion to collect $8m if he slips below the 16th pick in this upcoming dra..."
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"Duke spokesman Mike DeGeorge on Thursday could not confirm to the Associated Press a report by Action Network that Williamson had an $8 million loss of value policy written by Winston-Salem-based International Specialty Insurance that would pay out if he slipped past the 16th pick in this June's draft. Officials at ISI did not return telephone and email messages to the AP on Thursday."

Full article and PG's take on it: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26048640/paul-george-asks-nike-went-wrong-pg-25-shoe-zion-williamson-injury

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102. "It won't come to that, obviously."
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I do think athletes need to have even better insurance policies, or the ability to adjust those policies midseason. Once it became clear he was the consensus #1, he should've been able to re-up that insurance policy to kick in if, say, he falls out of the Top 8 or something.

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110. "People still go back and forth with Truth?"
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Lolz, cmon guys

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111. "I know, I know."
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I've been home sick with a shitty cold the last 3 days straight, no leaving the apartment-- guess I got bored and feisty with nothing else to do. Dumb.

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112. "sorry no random bogus medical evaluations were solicited..."
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did you have an opinion or did you just feel compelled to type my name?

It wasn't really much of a "back and forth", I just offered my opinion which is similar to the opinions of most professional basketball players especially since Zion got hurt.

Frank and RBO got their panties in a bunch because I called them college guys and began to argue irrelevant points.

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134. "Did anyone order a backwards homophobic take? "
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Why are you commenting here?

FOH with “bogus” btw.

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136. "Not really sure what that has to do with this post but I guess that's..."
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the best you could come up with. "Helluva job, Mitch!"

>Why are you commenting here?
>
>FOH with “bogus” btw.

Umm I started the post genius.

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138. "Glad to see no argument for your rampant bigotry. "
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140. "*response*"
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113. "Yes, we all know he's a fucking bozo. My bad. "
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114. "You're literally the king of pointless back and forths on this board."
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115. "HOLD UP. What is the argument that she should still play? "
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LMAO @ "he should do what he wants to." No shit, that's
not what we're talking about. He should quite and join
a Fortnite competitive team if he wants.

There is absolutely, positively no argument that continuing
to play is the right basketball future decision. None.

If his future is the thing we're talking about, he should
quit, hire the best coaches and nutritionists in the world,
prepare for a Hall of Fame career

  

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117. "Let me catch you up "
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The argument being made, according to RBO and Frank

Is that while in HS, he stated he wanted to go to college.

Most rational people can see there is nothing to gain for his future by ever playing another second for Duke

Zion's a lock for #1

and you can see how wide the margin is between him and #2 with Duke getting blown out at home vs UNC and struggling to put away 'cuse without him

His next game SHOULD be in an NBA uniform

But...also according to RBO and Frank, Zion feels some responsibility to his Duke team and teammates to play again this year

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119. "“He wants to play with his friends” lol"
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121. "I refuse to believe Frank Longo and RBO are that unintelligent. "
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>But...also according to RBO and Frank, Zion feels some
>responsibility to his Duke team and teammates to play again
>this year

Because that is the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my
life.

Zion might FEEL responsibility to quit basketball and
take up sustainable agriculture. That's a perfectly fine
decision too.

But there is NO ARGUMENT for playing another basketball
game if the conversation has anything to do with his
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122. "Lmao... we talking intelligence yet you believing with this nigga..."
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is saying our argument is as opposed to reading what we actually wrote?

Don’t be that lazy.

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123. "The wanting to go to Duke logic starts with your reply 36"
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and then you and Frank back and forth Truth

Reply 46...something something AAU friends

Yep, I made it all up...FOH.

Point me to your post where you said he shouldn't play...missed it

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124. "You dumb nigga. Did I say he's owes some responsibility to Duke or..."
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his teammates?

I did say if he wants to play, he should surely play.

Same thing with Michael Porter Jr. last year. If he wants to play, go for it.

If he finds value in the experience whether it's one the court or off it, I don't get what the problem is.

Zion should only think about what Zion wants.

Its rather simple.

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125. "RE: You dumb nigga...trying to deflect from your reply "
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So we've gone from I made it up...to the word responsibility

OP, what should Zion do

RBO, he said he wanted to go to college

What was the point of posting that?

Point me to the post where you said he shouldn't play...I missed it.

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128. "You fucking moron. You did make it up. "
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And the fact that we have to keep going back to what I said makes me believe that I don't think you're doing this intentionally, but you are in fact an imbecile.

1. Should Zion sit out the rest of the season? (A boring ass topic that is rehashed every college basketball season or sometimes every other season).

2.Me: Zion should do whatever he wants to do. -----> His words and actions are giving all indications he wants to play.

3. Dumb niggaz that wear snapbacks during snowstorms: You saying he should play because he owes it to Duke, the NCAA, or his AAU teammates?

4. Me: I didn't say he should play. I said he wants to play and should do that.
I didn't mention Duke or the NCAA.
I said he has mentioned he wants to play with his friends. And that's what matters to him. And leads back to doing what you want.

Now we're here.

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130. "I heard Zion wants to be a professional pole dancer"
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Don't nobody care about WANT. That's not the issue.
Of course he can do what he WANTS.

SHOULD is the only question.

The answer to that is "NO"

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137. "Then, he should become a pole dancer. He's very strong and athletic...."
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and with you and Truth being patrons, I'm sure he can make back that Rookie contract money.

He SHOULD do what he WANTS to do.

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143. "LMAOOO. So y'all just giving up, I see. "
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>and with you and Truth being patrons, I'm sure he can make
>back that Rookie contract money.
>
>He SHOULD do what he WANTS to do.

Zion need not step foot on a college floor ever again.

His best bet is to hire trainers and coaches, work on his
game, get ready for the NBA


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132. "Haha"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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118. "The convo was more what will he do"
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Not what should he do

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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120. "So does EVERYONE AGREE that he SHOULD shut it down? "
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If the issue is what is best for his future, he SHOULD
stop playing NOW. This SHOULD be unanimous. There is
no other possible argument.

The question of what he WANTS is not an interesting
question. He might WANT to join a bobsledding team.
He might WANT to take up high stakes Poker. He might
WANT to host the Grammy's. We're not talking about
WANT.

The issue is about his future. He has nothing else to
demonstrate. He SHOULD sit down.

  

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126. "Nah the more interesting question is what will he actually do"
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Which is how what he wants to do became relevant.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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129. "Again: He might WANT to peform in 'Hamilton'. "
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>Which is how what he wants to do became relevant.

What he WANTS is not the relevant conversation.

He might WANT a lot of things.

The only conversation is about what he SHOULD do.

IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HIS FUTURE AS A PRO, there is NO
REASON for him to step on a college basketball court,
ever gain.

  

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131. "What he wants to fo is relevant bc its the biggest "
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Indicator of what he'll actually do.

If playing in hamilton was more important to him than the nba, he should try to play in Hamilton.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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133. "Yep, dude might want to chase an NCAA title"
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this is his only chance for that

not everyone is purely motivated by money as a zero sum game

<-Fear Ameer

  

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135. "Melo has an NCAA title. Kyrie & Lebron don't. Zion don't care. "
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And he shouldn't care.

Kyrie is the best Dukie to ever play in the NBA.

He barely played for Duke.

  

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139. "And i'm sure when Melo look back on his career"
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His damn proud of his ncaa chip.

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142. "I'm sure Lebron is pround of his middle school chip. "
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Y'all acting dumb

Stop

  

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147. "Exactly...good thing he didnt sit out."
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150. "Lebron sat out college, big man. "
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He didn't GAF

So there's that

  

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151. "Lol YOU brought up his middle school chip einstein."
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Thats what i replied to

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149. "He should be, because its the only chip he'll have."
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________________________________
There are dozens of us! Dozens!

  

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152. "Which is an argument for why zion should play"
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It aint my argument, but if you throwing melo into this, thats incentive to play bc your nba career might be a lot of points and not alot of postseason success.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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153. "oh no, whatever shall he do?"
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154. "Guess he did wanna play with his friends."
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155. "its always surprising to me when..."
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people who are really into sports dont actually understand a competitor's mindset

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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156. "So N. Bosa is not a "competitor" who "wanted to play with friends?""
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>people who are really into sports dont actually understand a
>competitor's mindset


Of course Bosa has friends and is a competitor. His
fire is specifically one of his best football traits.

He just realized that sitting out the rest of the season
was a better and safer career move.

Zion CAN do what he WANTS.

To the original question? If longevity and safety are
the concerns, he SHOULD sit out the season.

  

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158. "lol thats not how inverse logic works"
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>Of course Bosa has friends and is a competitor. His
>fire is specifically one of his best football traits.

okay. what does that have to do with anyone who couldnt understand why someone would choose to stay?

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162. "Bwahaha. Y'all done resorted to outright lying"
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>
>>Of course Bosa has friends and is a competitor. His
>>fire is specifically one of his best football traits.
>
>okay. what does that have to do with anyone who couldnt
>understand why someone would choose to stay?

No one is curious why he'd choose to play. He wants to
play because he's in college and college and basketball
are fun.


The question is whether or not there's a good reason
for him not to play.

If he decided to quit, that *would* be a good decision.
Just like it was with Bosa

  

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165. "what are you even taking about?"
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im specifically referring to commenters who say he doesn't care about playing college basketball or that its not important, because thats a personal perspective they dont understand

we agree that whatever he wants to do is exactly what he should do

all that about Bosa not being a competitor is your manifestation, not mine

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159. "If longevity & safety are a concern he should also play 1 game a week."
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Maybe sit out second halves too.

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160. "Only play at half speed, no practice."
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164. "Zion protection plan "
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WV-ASU7d25Q/hqdefault.jpg

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163. "LMAO. This happens *IN THE PROS* for many young players"
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>Maybe sit out second halves too.

Minutes restrictions and sitting players down
for the rest of the regular season? Happens when
guys are *already* millionaires

But somehow the thought is ludicrous for a kid in
college? Bwahahahahaha

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157. "this young brotha is such a joy to watch fam."
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i dont see how anyone isnt a fan of his at this point.

hopefully nothing but the best in store for him in the future.

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166. "They need to put him in Space Jam 2, tbh."
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Won't be complete without him as, like, The Young Monstar or something. Dude's not just an exceptional athlete, he's also charismatic as shit and has fun every time he's on the court.

For beer lovers: http://thebeertravelguide.com
For movie lovers: http://russellhainline.com

  

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167. "Must-see TV"
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He may be the most exciting thing happening in sports, period

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