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benny
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"Weekend Soccer 01.12-13: ReUnited and it feels so good"


  

          

Really interesting game coming up at Wembley, with Spurs still in the title hunt and United resurgent since Skoljaer took over. The Red Devils have won their 5 games under the Norwegian, who has relied on Pogba as a linchpin while players like Lukaku, Rashford and even Alexis are playing like the start of the season never happened. For Spurs it's been a bit difficult, with injuries throwing obstacle after obstacle into Pochettino's plans, but somehow they are making do with Winks and Sissoko in the middle for now. The opening of the renovated White Hart Lane could be as close as 2-3 months away, so if they can manage to hang in there until then, we might be in for a great finish.

The early game has Arsenal going to the East End to take on West Ham, who haven't done too well against big sides at home this year, apart from a win against United in late September. Chelsea host Newcastle, and I think I can already hear the beeps from the Geordie buses backing up at Stamford Bridge. Liverpool are going to Brighton which can be tricky, as their Everton neighbors can attest from their late December loss there.

Real Madrid are showing the early optimism shown when Solari arrived was probably misplaced, and have to go to Real Betis who are only 4 pts behind them. Barcelona have a more than manageable game against Eibar



EPL
12.01.19 07:30 West Ham - Arsenal
12.01.19 10:00 Brighton - Liverpool
12.01.19 10:00 Burnley - Fulham
12.01.19 10:00 Cardiff - Huddersfield
12.01.19 10:00 Crystal Palace - Watford
12.01.19 10:00 Leicester - Southampton
12.01.19 12:30 Chelsea - Newcastle
13.01.19 09:15 Everton - Bournemouth
13.01.19 11:30 Tottenham - Manchester United
14.01.19 3:00 Manchester City - Wolves

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MLB: Mets / Soccer: PSG
NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets
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Cesc officially signing with Monaco
Jan 11th 2019
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do you think Henry w/ Cesc will keep Monaco from relegation?
Jan 11th 2019
4
      even without Cesc they shouldn't be where they are, warts and all
Jan 11th 2019
5
We won’t win the league but will make top 4
Jan 11th 2019
2
Reims has a right-back called Foket
Jan 11th 2019
3
Telegraph piece on Solskjaer’s approach; give him the job!
Jan 11th 2019
6
if the season ended today, i'd be fine with him getting the job.
Jan 12th 2019
7
This right here:
Jan 12th 2019
8
I AGREE
Jan 12th 2019
9
Where's Arnautovic going?
Jan 12th 2019
10
What an unbelievably impotent display
Jan 12th 2019
11
Yeah this whole thing w/ ozil is ruining the season. Also,
Jan 12th 2019
12
      I wonder if his inflexible stance is a reaction to his PSG experience
Jan 12th 2019
13
           Almost certainly but the pendulum is swinging too far the other way now
Jan 12th 2019
14
Hooo boy, this has got some big-match feel to it already.
Jan 13th 2019
15
That ball from Pogba => 100
Jan 13th 2019
16
Jesus.
Jan 13th 2019
17
He's so good. Any coach who can't get something
Jan 13th 2019
21
From that angle and distance??????? Ridiculous.
Jan 13th 2019
28
First blood struck.
Jan 13th 2019
18
I’ll admit I’m kinda shook right now for our CL matchup
Jan 13th 2019
19
This is epic stuff from De Gea.
Jan 13th 2019
20
so good with his feet
Jan 13th 2019
22
one of the best of the season surely
Jan 13th 2019
23
Cheat code
Jan 13th 2019
27
I don't think this game is quite as good as A.White says, but still good...
Jan 13th 2019
24
We get another top CB and RB and we're back. We coming..
Jan 13th 2019
25
i thought Young was fine. Shaw...idk
Jan 13th 2019
30
Thats all they need?
Jan 13th 2019
33
didn't like that we parked it and just let Spurs attack in the 2nd half....
Jan 13th 2019
26
Give him a technical director and a defensive coach. What is Jaap doing?...
Jan 13th 2019
29
AGREED
Jan 13th 2019
31
      lol.
Jan 13th 2019
32

benny
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1. "Cesc officially signing with Monaco"
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For the record, my teams:
MLB: Mets / Soccer: PSG
NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets
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"Si la meuf est bien physiquement, je ne refuserai pas grand chose"

  

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4. "do you think Henry w/ Cesc will keep Monaco from relegation?"
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I don't watch ligue 1, but I know you do

  

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benny
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5. "even without Cesc they shouldn't be where they are, warts and all"
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but they do seem to be hitting all the wrong notes, between the abysmal recruiting (pre-Cesc) and injuries (Ronny Lopes is back tho). I'm still not really worried for them because there are a ton of teams above them that feel very soft

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MLB: Mets / Soccer: PSG
NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets
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2. "We won’t win the league but will make top 4"
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17 matches to get 32 points and 80 for the season is cake unless someone gets hurt.

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benny
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3. "Reims has a right-back called Foket"
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had never heard of him until an hour ago and now he's on my starting XI of futbol names

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For the record, my teams:
MLB: Mets / Soccer: PSG
NCAA BB: Arizona / NCAA FB: Michigan
NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets
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6. "Telegraph piece on Solskjaer’s approach; give him the job! "
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/01/11/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-restored-feel-good-factor-man-utd-hairdryer/

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has been putting lots of smiles back on faces at Manchester United over the past three-and-a-half weeks but there was a stark reminder last weekend that the interim manager is not there simply to play happy families.
Anyone who was in the dressing room at half-time of United’s FA Cup tie against Reading at Old Trafford last Saturday to watch Solskjaer unleash his own version of Sir Alex Ferguson’s infamous “hairdryer” will have learnt very quickly that, beneath the baby-faced veneer and easy charm, lies a strong personality who will not tolerate a drop in standards.
United were leading 2-0 but Solskjaer was unhappy with what he had seen and had no hesitation about letting rip. Screaming directly into the faces of players in true Ferguson style, Solskjaer unloaded for a minute or two. Rant over and point made, the focus then switched to calmly discussing how United would tackle the second half.
The incident is instructive because, while Solskjaer oozes genuine warmth and compassion and has wasted no time transforming the mood at United after Jose Mourinho’s joyless, corrosive regime ended up breeding loathing, resentment and paranoia, it debunks any notion that the Norwegian might be a pushover. That Solskjaer’s tirade has not been mentioned since is also telling. Mourinho could hold a grudge for weeks but Solskjaer will address issues head on and move on quickly. No sulking, no brooding. Just grown up management.
For players and staff alike, it is just one example of the sharp wind of change that has blown through the club since Mourinho was sacked a week before Christmas and Solskjaer and Mike Phelan, Ferguson’s long-standing assistant, were appointed to rescue morale, and a season that was capitulating. Five successive wins, a vibrant, attack-minded approach that United’s fans have been quick to embrace and a buoyant atmosphere have restored the feelgood factor and now comes their biggest challenge yet with a trip to Wembley to face in-form Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday.
The presence of Mauricio Pochettino in the opposite dugout will offer a reminder that Solskjaer is only at Old Trafford on a caretaker basis. The Tottenham head coach tops a list of permanent candidates to succeed Mourinho and a lot will have to happen between now and the end of the season to change that thinking but Solskjaer could not have hoped to make a better first impression.
The tone was set on his first day in the job. Jumping at an invitation to attend the club’s Christmas party at Old Trafford cricket ground that night, the 500 staff present in “The Point” hospitality suite had no idea Solskjaer would be attending and began serenading him with his song when he was invited on stage by executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward. Addressing a jubilant crowd, Solskjaer told them it was his and the team’s duty to put smiles on their faces and that “if you can’t enjoy yourself at United, where can you enjoy yourself?”
That inclusive, family feel was evident once again in Dubai on Wednesday night when Solskjaer arranged for the entire travelling party, players included, to go for a meal at the opulent, Asian themed Play Restaurant & Lounge on the final night of their five-day training camp in the Middle East.
The trip to Dubai was beneficial in many ways. Solskjaer used it to build up fitness levels and work on specific formations and tactics for the Tottenham game but also next month’s matches against Paris St-Germain and Liverpool at Old Trafford. Yet it has also been an invaluable bonding exercise. Observers say training has also appeared more thorough and, crucially, more fun.
After a particularly gruelling session in near 30C heat at the Nad Al Sheba sporting complex on Wednesday, there was initially not a great deal of appetite for some games. But that soon changed when the squad was divided into three 8-a-side teams - academy graduates and goalkeeper David De Gea in one, another made up of older heads and a third side compromising everyone in between - and told they were playing a “winner-stays-on” tournament.
It got so competitive that the players were pleading with the coaching staff to let them carry when things were eventually wrapped up and the youthful side featuring the likes of Marcus Rashford, Andreas Pereira, Scott McTominay, Tahith Chong and Angel Gomes emerged triumphant and revelled in playfully mocking their senior counterparts.
Rashford captured the mood under Solskjaer this week when he tweeted a picture of him, Jesse Lingard and Anthony Martial and joked that the new manager was reliving the moment he scored the winning goal in the 1999 Champions League final against Bayern Munich. “Seconds left.. Becks whipped in a perfect corner. Teddy flicked it on. The rest is history”. Yet it is no exaggeration that the younger players, in particular, have been hanging off Solskjaer’s every word, hungry for information and encouraged by his approachable demeanour.
It helps that Solskjaer’s memory is razor sharp. John O’Shea discovered just that on the defender’s return to Old Trafford with Reading and was reminded by Solskjaer that he captained United on the day the Irishman made his first team debut 20 years ago. Staff have had a taste of that, too. Some who had not seen Solskjaer for at least four years were touched that he remembered their children’s names. One coach at academy level said he had spoken more to Solskjaer in one morning than he did to Mourinho in 18 months. MUTV, United’s official television station, are back on the inside after being pushed out and ostracised by Mourinho.
Mourinho had lost the majority of players as long as nine months before he finally got the boot so it was inevitable any replacement would enjoy a bounce but Solskjaer’s personal, empathetic touch is very quickly winning hearts and minds. Ferguson was instrumental in bringing Solskjaer back to United, even if suggestions the former manager was invited to address the players are wide of the mark and he has no direct involvement with the team. Yet the influence of the Scot on his former striker has been very apparent, right down to the way the interim has been delivering bad news.
One player dropped in the past fortnight found Solskjaer recounting a story from his playing days about how he had been convinced he would start the next league match against Arsenal after coming off the bench to score four times in an 8-1 thrashing of Nottingham Forest in 1999 only to again find himself among the substitutes. It was Solskjaer telling the player he understood how he felt.
Another was told he would not be playing because he had a crucial role to play in the game after that and Solskjaer needed him completely fit and focused, a classic Ferguson tactic. For players who were usually not told when or why they had been dropped under Mourinho and Van Gaal, Solskjaer’s honesty is refreshing.
Solskjaer has generally left the likes of Michael Carrick and Kieran McKenna - who have become far more visible and vocal than they ever were under Mourinho - to lead training along with Phelan and new recruit Mark Dempsey, another United old boy who worked with Solskjaer at Cardiff and during his first spell at Molde. Solskjaer will interject when he sees fit but it has been notable that when training finishes and the players hang around to do extras, Solskjaer stays out.
That has been most evident with the strikers on finishing exercises. For example, Solskjaer has been talking Rashford through specific examples of moments he encountered as a player to encourage the England forward to think more about his positioning, body shape, footwork and mindset in the penalty area. Solskjaer has also drawn on his experiences of playing with and working alongside the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney.
Under Mourinho, Van Gaal and David Moyes, there was almost a fixation with the opposition, to the point of over-analysis. With Solskjaer and Phelan, there has been a marked shift towards United focusing on their own strengths, and where they can hurt the opposition. Players are more inclined to take risks because they know their mistakes will not be picked apart for days in front of the group. “Ole wants the players to express what we have inside and not to be limited or restrained by sticking to any fixed positions on the pitch,” one dressing room source said.
For all the scrutiny on Solskjaer, no one should underestimate the role of Phelan. Moyes erred gravely by ignoring Ferguson’s advice to keep Phelan on and the 56-year-old has proved an important buffer for Solskjaer, shielding him from much of the bureaucracy that comes with the job while also serving as an invaluable sounding board for staff. Van Gaal and Mourinho were territorial, micromanaging every last detail, and often took umbrage when colleagues were consulted before them.
There were also endless, tedious rules that would change so frequently that staff never quite knew where they stood. It created cliques and a culture of fear and apprehension. All that has changed under Solskjaer and Phelan. Solskjaer welcomes and encourages Phelan’s input and ideas. Both operate open door policies and want everyone to feel wanted and important. United have some of their soul back.

  

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7. "if the season ended today, i'd be fine with him getting the job."
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while he's not quite a zany as Klopp (is anyone?) he's kind of got that same positive vibe that seems to work better with the modern big club soccer player, BUT he'll still get in that ass if need be much like Klopp.

obviously it's quite a wait and see, but him being of the club might go a long way more than hiring a "big name."

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8. "This right here:"
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>there was almost a fixation with the opposition, to the point of
>over-analysis. With Solskjaer and Phelan, there has been a marked
>shift towards United focusing on their own strengths

  

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9. "I AGREE"
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Hands off Poch.

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10. "Where's Arnautovic going?"
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You can't come back after waving goodbye, surely.

  

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11. "What an unbelievably impotent display"
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Uni deserve a couple of years to get his team. But he's also not immune from being called out for shit performance. He's been downright bad in terms of personnel management and team selection this last month.

The personal grudge with Ozil is killing us. A game like this is one where your need some creativity in midfield. Matteo is going to be good but the fact that he's the one that staryed on is clearly not about giving us the best chance to come back. It about sending some dumb message.

Hopefully he can win the Europa cuz we need that champions league money if we are to get some talent in. Not coming from a top 4 finish

  

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12. "Yeah this whole thing w/ ozil is ruining the season. Also,"
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If emery won’t play ozil, he’s got to at least start Ramsey & put either laca or PEA on the bench. Offensive tactics have clearly gone stale here in the past few weeks


I’m willing to give him a pass this season for the defense this year , only because the personnel are largely shit to begin with.

  

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13. "I wonder if his inflexible stance is a reaction to his PSG experience"
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He was constantly -possibly rightfully- criticized for letting the players run the locker room, perhaps he figures he should mark his authority early on?

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NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets
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14. "Almost certainly but the pendulum is swinging too far the other way now"
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You have to be able to compromise and get what you want while still having the trust of the player. He was certainly lax at PSG but he’s gone full hardass with Mesut & that approach doesn’t work either.

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15. "Hooo boy, this has got some big-match feel to it already."
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16. "That ball from Pogba => 100"
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NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets
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17. "Jesus."
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21. "He's so good. Any coach who can't get something"
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From him should lose their license

  

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28. "From that angle and distance??????? Ridiculous."
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Rashford gathers it full stride with perfect angle for a shot.

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18. "First blood struck. "
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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19. "I’ll admit I’m kinda shook right now for our CL matchup"
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20. "This is epic stuff from De Gea."
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22. "so good with his feet"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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23. "one of the best of the season surely"
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NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets
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27. "Cheat code"
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24. "I don't think this game is quite as good as A.White says, but still good..."
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NBA: Spurs / NFL: Jets
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25. "We get another top CB and RB and we're back. We coming.. "
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Ole even got them parking the bus for most of the 2nd half happily.

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30. "i thought Young was fine. Shaw...idk"
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he made a few sweeet plays (the dbl foot slide sweep in particular). but it seemed like Trippier was doing whatever he wanted over there. Granted Martial made that work for him too, but it seemed like Tottenham did all their best stuff on Uniteds left.

Young, on the other hand, basically shut Son down to my eyes. And Matic could have done a little more to help the CBs imo too. Instead Herrera (what a game) had to come help Matic.

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33. "Thats all they need?"
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Weird.

  

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26. "didn't like that we parked it and just let Spurs attack in the 2nd half...."
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but that first half was a tactical masterclass by Ole.

it's a W against a top 4 side. i'll take it.

all this speculation but it's looking more and more like Ole is the right fit.

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29. "Give him a technical director and a defensive coach. What is Jaap doing?..."
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31. "AGREED"
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>all this speculation but it's looking more and more like Ole
>is the right fit.

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32. "lol. "
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