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How the Rams and Chargers Stadium Under Construction in Inglewood Is Already Impacting Local Restaurants ~ L.A. TACO
Beverly Brinson loves to redecorate her restaurant every month. She likes to keep Ms. B’s M&M’s Soul Food trendy and different for her loyal customers.

“I’ve had customers come in here and say, ‘Ms. B, you’ve been at it again’, because I change everything,” she said on a recent weekday. “And I have some customers that have a favorite table and they go, ‘That table is not there anymore.'”

But now, she’s being forced to make a change that will affect her business and her employees – she may have to leave Inglewood. The new L.A. Stadium coming to Inglewood is two years away from being open, and it’s already having an effect on her business.


Ms. B’s M&M’s Soul Food had it’s rent raised to $14,000. All photos by Jessica Flores.

The Los Angeles Stadium and Entertainment District at Hollywood Park began construction in 2015. It is expected to open in the summer of 2020 and will be home to the NFL’s two Los Angeles franchises, the Rams and Chargers. L.A. Stadium will be a rare two-team single-sport venue in the United States. Also in the NFL, the New York Giants and Jets have a similar arrangement at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey. Here in L.A., the Lakers and Clippers share Staples Center for NBA games.

The massive development project, estimated to cost more than $4 billion, was rapidly approved by local political figures like Inglewood Mayor James Butts. But the plan was always controversial. Housing advocates warned that it could displace thousands of low-income tenants in the area. Inglewood home prices already increased.

Local restaurants have already been impacted. One restaurant directly across Hollywood Park is planning to revamp into a sports bar. An ice cream shop that has worked with the stadium’s construction company hopes to be part of the change, and find a permanent brick-and-mortar nearby.


Beverly Brinson owns M&M’s Soul Food in Inglewood.

Rent Hike
As for Brinson, she’s looking for a location to move to because her monthly rent increased from $6,282 to $14,000.

Brinson said she loves to have continual change in her life and she is no stranger to it. In 1974, she ran away from an abusive husband and took a bus to Los Angeles from Mississippi with her two children. She worked at a telephone company before taking over her godmother’s M&M’s Soul Food restaurant in 1991 and adding “Ms. B’s” to the name. Before moving to its current location in 2008, the restaurant moved all around Inglewood in the past 25 years.

Brinson said she began looking for places in July after her landlord told her he was looking to sell the building. According to Brinson, her landlord first proposed a month-to-month lease, but has now doubled the rent.

“We can’t afford that,” she said. “And all of this is behind what everybody thinks. It’s the stadium and all that. It’s gonna bring so much money into the community, which it might, but take care of the little people in the community. Find a way for them so that they can get part of this.”

She said she told her landlord, “The stadium and football teams aren’t in Inglewood yet, so why raise the rent?”

He told her it wasn’t negotiable and that he already had someone who’s willing to pay him $14,000 a month, she said.

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Derrick Brown owns Bourbon Street and Fish Grill in Inglewood.

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Derrick Brown, owner of Bourbon Street and Fish Grill, has a front seat view of the stadium’s construction. Directly across from it on E. Kelso St/Pincay Dr, the street that divides the Forum and the stadium, Brown said he gets a kick out of watching it all unfold because he plans to rebuild his restaurant into a two-floor sports bar just in time for the new stadium.

He planned to rebuild his restaurant seven years ago but kept putting it off because of money, he said. “Now it makes more sense to do it cause of what’s coming.”

The restaurant was a gas station before he remodeled it. First he made it into mini market and then turned it into a fish market in 2000. But this was never in Brown’s plans for his personal career. He was in real estate and marketing before getting into the restaurant industry.

“To tell you the truth, I would’ve been out of this business a long time ago, that’s why I’m trying to go in a different direction. My dad a motivating factor for us because he did this for 30-plus years,” he said.


Bourbon Street and Fish Grill is right across the street from the new stadium.

His father, who died in 2017, was in the restaurant business for 35 years. His father wanted Brown and his brother to keep the restaurant going, Brown said. Bourbon lost a big portion of his customers when the Hollywood Park race track closed in 2013. Racetrack employees and trainers would often eat at Bourbon, he said. “We’ve been here for 18 years and our business was dead in this community. We came after the Lakers left . We were here when the Forum didn’t even have events, so we’ve survived all this time,” Brown said.

But with the stadium coming, he sees it as an opportunity to grow his business.

“I only can see it as a positive. I don’t see it as a negative thing cause like I said, the traffic, that’s everywhere you go if you have a stadium. They’re all in the cities now. They’re building these things in the middle of cities. That’s the way it is. That’s the new style of sports,” Brown said.

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J. Allen owner of Jamz Creamery in Inglewood.

Legacy
As a kid, J. Allen worked on an ice cream truck. Now, he has a 10-year-old son who helps him serve ice cream to customers at his ice cream shop Jamz Creamery. In 2016, he opened Jamz, which is right along Inglewood’s Market Street downtown area, because he saw that there wasn’t an ice cream parlor in sight.

Allen’s business is one of the few local businesses whose catered for the stadium project’s events, others include Dulan’s Soul Food Kitchen and Woody’s Bar-B-Que, to name a few. Allen catered for three events, two that were part of the Good Neighbor Program overseen by the general contractor.

The stadium hosts these events twice a year where they invite residents from residents from the Renaissance homes, 11th Avenue, and the Carlton Square gated community.


Jamz Creamery in Inglewood.

Jason Witt, community and citizen specialist for Turner Construction Co., said that since they began construction in 2016 they’ve had an ongoing communication with the local community, specifically the adjacent neighboring community.

The stadium project has held community events, put up a sound wall and are doing what they can to help take care of their neighbors, Witt said.


L.A. Stadium is under construction in Inglewood.

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As gentrification expands throughout Inglewood, Allen said, “I understand what’s going on and there’s no way that me as one person or us as restaurant owners can stop it because you know, it’s a big deal. It’s big people behind it, bigger people than us. You almost gotta think about it like, ‘How do you get involved?’, as opposed to being down about it.”

Allen said he reached out to the stadium to get involved with them. Everybody has different beliefs and theories about the stadium, he said, but he thinks it’s important that he’s part of the change. “I don’t see it as a negative. I see it as an opportunity. And I know a handful of other restaurant owners that feel the same way,” Allen said.

Allen is preparing for the stadium, but says he’s not relying too much on the stadium to bring him more business. He’s more focused on expanding his restaurant on his own to secure the future. “I want to build something for my son. And that’s what it means for me, truly. A future for my son. That’s my end goal.”

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Brown, of Bourbon Street Fish and Grill, said he’s reached out to the stadium but hasn’t heard back from them. “That’s been there over a year and a half. I’ve never catered or did anything for anybody. The only thing I’ve gotten is construction workers stop by to have lunch. Other than that, nothing,” Brown said.

Brinson, of Ms. B’s M&M’s Soul Food, also said she’s reached out and hasn’t heard back from them yet. “It makes me feel sad because with me being in the community for so long and one of the most popular soul food restaurants in L.A., it seems like they would have talked to me by now,” she said.

Witt said that it’s a two-way street when it comes to working with local restaurants. They collect business cards, but also hear about restaurants through word-of-mouth and reach out to work with them. He said the construction will last for two more years, which means there is opportunity to work with more local establishments.

“We’re striving to do as much business with the Inglewood community as we can,” Witt said.



But there might not be enough time for Brinson to get a chance to work with the stadium. As other restaurants prepare for the stadium and entertainment park, Brinson is preparing to leave Inglewood.

She said she’s found a couple places outside of Inglewood and is waiting to hear back. “I live in Inglewood. I’m a resident here. It’s not like I’m an outsider,” she said.

“I have shared some of the stuff with my employees I haven’t shared everything. Like this last thing about the $14,000, I haven’t told them that. But they know we can’t afford it. We’re struggling here to make what we pay now. I really don’t know. It’s just scary right now.”

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property value is going up..good for some..bad for some
Dec 17th 2018
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Yeah: good for rich people, bad for poor people
Dec 17th 2018
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theres also long time residents...people of color..who own homes there..
Dec 17th 2018
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      It works out for some homeowners
Dec 17th 2018
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Honestly, football stadiums don't create THAT many jobs.
Dec 17th 2018
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that new stadium is a year round facility..with alot more going on
Dec 17th 2018
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      So, shitty part-time jobs all year round then?
Dec 17th 2018
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Youre right in some ways
Dec 17th 2018
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LOL. You're still clinging to this debunked bullshit.
Dec 17th 2018
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About that "jobs" thing.
Dec 17th 2018
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Reminder, taxpayer funded stadiums for billionaires shouldn't be a thing...
Dec 17th 2018
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taxpayers aren't paying for the stadium, but it's still spiking rates lo...
Dec 17th 2018
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      its the least bad stadium deal we’ve seen in a while
Dec 17th 2018
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One of my all time favorite blogs
Dec 17th 2018
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Thanks for this, good reading
Dec 17th 2018
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What's wrong with California?
Dec 17th 2018
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It’s mostly a LA thing
Dec 17th 2018
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Phoenix is playin hardball on this, and will probably lose the team
Dec 17th 2018
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Strictly numbers perspective SF taxpayers didn’t get hosed too bad
Dec 17th 2018
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Warriors stadium is privately funded. However...
Dec 17th 2018
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IRT LA, there also isn't a shortage of existing stadiums down here
Dec 17th 2018
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Good read
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Personally I was perfectly happy to live in a city without the NFL
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LAbeathustla
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1. "property value is going up..good for some..bad for some"
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but the stadium is going to provide jobs...for people all over south LA..not just Inglewood...

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2. "Yeah: good for rich people, bad for poor people"
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and the jobs created are temporary and minimum wage.

There few more inefficient ways to "create jobs" than building stadiums with heavy tax subsidies and public revenue giveaways.

  

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3. "theres also long time residents...people of color..who own homes there.."
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and have been there for years..

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4. "It works out for some homeowners"
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But depending on tax structure, it can also force out long time home owners as taxes or other costs skyrocket with land value.

Their home value may go up, but all the local businesses they love will be pushed out.

And either way, homeowners are but one segment of the population.

Growth in their home equity shouldn't come at the expense of poor people and the working class being displaced.



But that's exactly how this process always works.

  

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6. "Honestly, football stadiums don't create THAT many jobs."
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8 home games a year + a few pre/postseason + the very small number of concerts that can fill such a huge space + maintenance + operations = what...50 days worth of work?

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than football

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17. "So, shitty part-time jobs all year round then?"
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>but the stadium is going to provide jobs...for people all
>over south LA..not just Inglewood...

The article even highlighted 2 men who were not quite losing, and 1 woman who was. However, when these things happen in poor communities, while some people come up, the general rule is the rich get richer.

There was a post going in my neighborhood page today (which was somewhat affected by Barclays) that highlighted that for a lot of families of color they make a huge profit on their sales, but becaus ethey dont always know all the zoning laws, they leave 500k- a million bucks on the table that developers will take advantage of.

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>but the stadium is going to provide jobs...for people all
>over south LA..not just Inglewood...

  

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https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-the-truth-about-football-stadiums-20160219-column.html

The truth about football stadiums: Those supposed great new jobs are bogus

2016-02-19T20:43:00Z
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The truth about football stadiums: Those supposed great new jobs are bogus
The creation of scads of great new long-term jobs is one of the siren calls of proposals for fancy new football stadiums.

That prospect played a central role, for example, in the pitch for the new Inglewood stadium for the new-model Los Angeles Rams of the National Football League. The stadium was projected to create "10,465 full- and part-time jobs" after construction was complete, according to the initiative passed hurriedly last year by the Inglewood City Council (without a public vote).

Looking back at the Super Bowl, what strikes me is ... how little consideration was given to the thousands of workers who made the event possible.

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But a lawsuit filed Tuesday against the firm operating concessions at Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara, the site of Super Bowl 50, gives some insight into just what kind of employment this is. It's low-wage workers routinely ripped off by their employers, according to the lawsuit's allegations.

The class-action case, filed in state court in Santa Clara, names Centerplate of Delaware as the chief defendant. That's the concession firm selling food and drinks at Levi's Stadium, where the San Francisco 49ers normally play. Centerplate is also has been the food and drink concessionaire at the NFL San Diego Chargers' Qualcomm Stadium, and at baseball's San Francisco Giants' AT&T Park, among some 300 venues in the U.S., Canada and Britain. The complaint alleges that workers at the Super Bowl were deprived of hours of legally mandated pay and of rest periods during their shifts. Stamford, Conn.-based Centerplate declined to comment on the lawsuit.


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The named plaintiff is Gabriel Thompson, a freelance writer who worked for Centerplate at Levi's for four games this NFL season, including the Super Bowl. Thompson separately recounted his experiences on the job for Slate.com; his pieces can be found here and here.

Centerplate typically operates under the radar; most customers at its venues probably don't even know it exists. The firm briefly bubbled into public awareness in 2014 thanks to the behavior of its former CEO, Desmond Hague, who was charged with abusing a puppy in his care — unfortunately for him, in full view of a surveillance camera in an elevator. Centerplate fired Hague soon after the video surfaced. He later pleaded guilty to animal cruelty and was fined $5,000 in a Canadian court; at his sentencing, his lawyer said he had been unable to find a new job.

The wage theft of the sort alleged by the Thompson lawsuit is a common complaint of low-wage workers, who typically have few options for redress. California has been a leader in cracking down. Last year, Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill augmenting punishments for employers who cheat their workers, and in 2014, State Controller John Chiang launched a program to sue employers who flouted wage and hour rules.

But cheated workers face an uphill battle. A 2013 study by UCLA's Labor Center found that California workers collected only 42% of the back wages they were owed from 2008 to 2011. Only 17% of workers who obtained a judgment against their employer saw any money at all.

Thompson's lawsuit alleges that he and other workers at the Super Bowl were cheated of pay for the time they spent queuing up for shuttle buses taking them to the stadium from a staging point miles away and back again after the game, and for the time they spent on the buses. That travel time came to five hours, Thompson says, for which he got no pay, even though under California law, that time is compensable.

The cheating was subtle, Thompson suggests in his Slate pieces. He got paid time-and-a-half for all the hours he was at the stadium, which sounds generous. But he calculated that had he been paid at the regular legal rates for his entire work day, including the travel time — straight time of $12.25 per hour for up to 12 hours, plus up to double time for hours beyond that — his paycheck for the day would have been $70 higher than it was.

"Looking back at the Super Bowl," he wrote, "what strikes me is the extraordinary amount of attention that was given to topics like the quality of the turf at Levi's Stadium, and how little consideration was given to the thousands of workers who made the event possible."

Thompson's experience illuminates the true nature of the employment so freely bandied about by promoters of stadium deals. The game day work is close to minimum wage, but worse than that, it's sporadic. An NFL stadium hosts eight home games per season, not including playoff or preseason games. While the rest of the year can be filled in with special events, those are sporadic, too. At Levi's, the home game payroll reaches about 4,500 persons, mostly low-wage cooks, waiters, janitors, security guards, parking attendants and ticket takers. Permanent stadium jobs in departments such as marketing and sales number only about 60.

That's the real jobs harvest that will be collected in Inglewood. The projection of 10,465 jobs offered by the stadium's promoters look more like fantasy, if not a lie. The question for Inglewood isn't whether its taxpayers will realize they've been sold a bill of goods by the billionaires behind the Rams' relocation and the stadium construction, but how soon it will happen?

Keep up to date with Michael Hiltzik. Follow @hiltzikm on Twitter, see our Facebook page, or email michael.hiltzik@latimes.com.

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5. "Reminder, taxpayer funded stadiums for billionaires shouldn't be a thing..."
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I'm far from an expert on this, but I thought the big thing was Kroenke was building the stadium. Seems that's still having an adverse effect tho

  

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18. "its the least bad stadium deal we’ve seen in a while"
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But there are still hundreds of millions in tax giveaways.

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/53xzbd/rams-leave-st-louis-raiders-and-chargers-in-limbo-winners-and-losers-of-the-nfls-return-to-la

“Taxpayers come out surprisingly well. Not only is that $477 million St. Louis stadium subsidy off the table (for now) but the Inglewood stadium plan is fairly taxpayer-friendly: the city will kick back about $180 million worth of future sales taxes to pay for "infrastructure"—the scare quotes are because said infrastructure includes such non-infrastructure-y items as shuttle buses—but that's pretty cheap as stadiums go. Thanks to Los Angeles–area officials (and voters) steadfastly refusing to throw money at a team to induce them to relocate, plus the example of the successful team-funded 49ers stadium in Santa Clara—successful in terms of making money, at least, even if the problematic sod may be an embarrassing disaster at the upcoming Super Bowl—Kroenke is agreeing to foot most of his stadium bill. On the other hand, Spanos and Davis could try to use the next year to shake down San Diego and Oakland for more stadium cash, so public coffers aren't free and clear just yet.”

  

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cataloguing and following all the stadium scams across this... nation

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8. "What's wrong with California?"
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Seems like they've got two kinds of venues, privately-funded and great (AT&T Park, Staples Center, new Warriors arena) or historical boondoggles (this, Dodger Stadium, Sacramento's arena.)

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12. "It’s mostly a LA thing"
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San Diego and Oakland tax payers said no to financing football stadiums.

I’m not sure if San Francisco voters are paying for the new Warriors arena.

  

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14. "Phoenix is playin hardball on this, and will probably lose the team"
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its what happened to the Phoenix Coyotes -- played hardball with the owner, and the city of Glendale gladly bankrupted themselves offering tax dollars, and they're about to lose the team.

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19. "Strictly numbers perspective SF taxpayers didn’t get hosed too bad"
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On the 49ers stadium.

But of course there’s collateral damage like the city’s scandalous and inhuman treatment of homeless people who lived near the stadium.

  

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22. "IRT LA, there also isn't a shortage of existing stadiums down here"
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I know the rose bowl and coliseum are no longer modern marvels

...but do fans really give a fuc...?

I went to an NFL game at the coliseum...didn't really see the big difference

of course the pitch is...luxury boxes...etc...

but for 100s of millions of dollars at the expense of fans...just so you can have luxury suites...

has to be a better solution.

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smutsboy
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Mon Dec-17-18 05:38 PM

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20. "Good read"
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https://deadspin.com/what-can-we-learn-from-four-stadium-deals-that-dont-suc-1829659467

SF Giants stadium is the first one on the list.

  

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ConcreteCharlie
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Mon Dec-17-18 06:15 PM

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23. "Personally I was perfectly happy to live in a city without the NFL"
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More likely to get the best games of the week across the board on TV and none of the associated fuckery. But this is how it works, so I can't feign shock here.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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