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Basaglia
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"John Wall is the worst leader in the league...we will have a dialogue."


  

          

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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Ben And Jerry's to name flavor after John Wall: Custer's Custard.
Oct 31st 2018
1
terrible attitude, terrible teammate
Oct 31st 2018
2
A+ truth-telling
Oct 31st 2018
3
Lmao... yeah he should endear himself to more fans like YOU.
Oct 31st 2018
4
well, I mean I'm right and live here so yea
Oct 31st 2018
8
      Go tie some Walt Williams socks around your head & listen to Wale
Oct 31st 2018
13
      we're talking about his leadership qualities are we not?
Oct 31st 2018
15
           So you want him to lead by wearing a Dexter Manley jersey? Got it.
Oct 31st 2018
17
      imagine caring about this shit
Oct 31st 2018
16
           RE: imagine caring about this shit
Oct 31st 2018
27
                RE: imagine caring about this shit
Oct 31st 2018
38
                     the panthers aint the chiefs tho. not in oakland anyways.
Nov 08th 2018
67
RE: terrible attitude, terrible teammate
Oct 31st 2018
6
*****benediction organ chords******
Oct 31st 2018
7
I only disagree on the driving
Oct 31st 2018
11
I just can't figure out why he shoots so many jumpers then
Oct 31st 2018
12
      Yeah, I go to games
Oct 31st 2018
19
      lmao, holy shit if this is true
Oct 31st 2018
25
           It's a necessary evil
Oct 31st 2018
30
I gotta agree
Oct 31st 2018
18
no lies told.
Oct 31st 2018
20
IN FULL AGREEMENT. Straight Bum. Spolied ass AAU gunning BUM.
Oct 31st 2018
5
that Oubre isn't a borderline All-Star by now is partially Wall's fault
Oct 31st 2018
9
Lol. How’s that DC club life nowadays? I’m sure he put in work ther...
Oct 31st 2018
10
Lol... you mad. Now there’s no footage of John working out?
Oct 31st 2018
14
He all about this, "I'm top 5 shit"....bruh....
Oct 31st 2018
42
all I gotta say is that things would have been different
Oct 31st 2018
23
      Well yeah, they woulda won.
Oct 31st 2018
39
Ahhhh. It's come to this.....
Oct 31st 2018
21
Ayyyy bro. Stop making sense.
Oct 31st 2018
22
Out of curiosity
Oct 31st 2018
24
currently- Cusp Tier.
Oct 31st 2018
26
      Thank you for the thorough break down.
Oct 31st 2018
33
BELOW PAR? His shot is below King Rice. He make Ben Simmons look
Oct 31st 2018
37
this is it
Nov 01st 2018
50
      I agree mostly....
Nov 01st 2018
51
           I'm telling you it's always been bad.
Nov 01st 2018
52
man that's wild, i had the exact same thought last night
Oct 31st 2018
28
https://tinyurl.com/yaaqc79h
Oct 31st 2018
29
      And this is why your guys get guns pointed at them now
Oct 31st 2018
31
      https://tinyurl.com/y782yssh
Oct 31st 2018
34
      Lmao... so in a discussion about leadership you bring up Jimmy Butler?
Oct 31st 2018
35
      Fascinating. Your guys hasn't even had an ACL yet is failing
Oct 31st 2018
32
           Your guy was a loser before the ACL. Let’s not rewrite history
Oct 31st 2018
36
                ...you know there's a question that naturally ensues, right?
Oct 31st 2018
40
                     jesus
Oct 31st 2018
41
                     Losing to Lebron in the ECF? Lmao... how many games did they win?
Nov 01st 2018
44
                          yo nigga 30 and ain't been past rd 2
Nov 01st 2018
45
                               That 5 game “battle” between the Heat & Bulls! Lmao!
Nov 01st 2018
47
                                    yo nigga 31 and can't get past horford
Nov 01st 2018
49
                                         Your dude is a loser, reads like an illiterate jock in an 80s ...
Nov 01st 2018
53
Who is their player development guy? Do they get some blame in this?
Nov 01st 2018
43
you gotta understand, the bar is SO low in this organization
Nov 01st 2018
46
      Ernie really, really has to go.....
Nov 01st 2018
48
John need to lose weight yo. He's way too big this season.
Nov 02nd 2018
54
Well he has Russ on deck for tonight. Won’t be able to out sprint him
Nov 02nd 2018
55
I’m setting over/under on turnovers at 7.5
Nov 02nd 2018
56
we beat the thunder in dc last year. I was there. It was a great game
Nov 02nd 2018
57
Wall don't look as fast this season. He's definitely not out sprinting R...
Nov 02nd 2018
58
Down 30 at home at the half against a former MVP legitimate top 5 PG
Nov 02nd 2018
59
Got his lunch money took last night by Russ.
Nov 03rd 2018
62
Welcome back Curse O' Les Boulez
Nov 03rd 2018
60
theyre gonna pay this dude $47M in his age 32 season?
Nov 03rd 2018
61
id still rather have him over reggie jackson
Nov 03rd 2018
63
      at $16M? maybe
Nov 03rd 2018
64
WIZARDS WIN
Nov 05th 2018
65
Stephen A on Wall and the loser Wizards. This deserves Flex bombs.
Nov 08th 2018
66
He's getting pilloried, but it's getting a bit unfair at this point....
Nov 08th 2018
68
he's getting pilloried because he's not serious about his profession
Nov 08th 2018
69
dogg they’re 2-8
Nov 08th 2018
70
Yep. They. THEY.
Nov 08th 2018
75
      He begged for star consideration for years. Brought it on himself, no?
Nov 08th 2018
76
john got the money he whined about so long. now he gets the blame
Nov 08th 2018
71
      Now that's fair.
Nov 08th 2018
73
      ^^^^^^^ Exactly, ole John "Thunder" Early ass muhphucka.
Nov 08th 2018
79
https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/1060645329266241537
Nov 08th 2018
72
LOL, I was waiting/looking for this.
Nov 08th 2018
74
That DC nightlife is a mutha!!
Nov 08th 2018
78
They have to be over the salary cap...?
Nov 08th 2018
77
Dude’s a loser, it’s an open and shut case boys and girls
Nov 09th 2018
80
You sound like a bozo bro.
Nov 10th 2018
82
      Just cause I’m pouring on doesn’t mean I’m wrong
Nov 10th 2018
83
maybe the worst contract in league history
Nov 09th 2018
81
Wizards win 3 in a row
Nov 15th 2018
84
Ssssssh.... John Wall is the worst player, fat, & a bad leader.
Nov 16th 2018
85
      just checked schedule...5 game losing streak on deck
Nov 16th 2018
86
      Maybe. I know he’ll ball out though. Everyone else needs to step up.
Nov 16th 2018
87
      He is a bad leader...and it will probably be his fault.
Nov 16th 2018
88
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064547335768821761
Nov 19th 2018
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if they didn't have to trade 'dre to do it
Nov 19th 2018
90
I've never really used it before, but according to the trade machine
Nov 19th 2018
94
      the shitty part of his contract hasnt started yet
Nov 19th 2018
95
           so the only thing stopping people from trading for wall
Nov 19th 2018
99
RE: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064547335768821761
Nov 19th 2018
91
Who's trading for that contract?
Nov 19th 2018
92
      I actually think New Orleans will inquire about at least Otto, maybe Wal...
Nov 19th 2018
93
lol...geez...
Nov 19th 2018
96
Dame deep fried homeboy last night
Nov 19th 2018
97
eh, that happens...I mean, Kemba hung 60 on Jimmy's neck...
Nov 19th 2018
98
      check the schedule and lets see what the collective win loss
Nov 19th 2018
104
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064672876073230337
Nov 19th 2018
100
lmao, "Raise my practice intensity? Fuck you!!"
Nov 19th 2018
101
sounds like he did raise his intensity, to be fair
Nov 19th 2018
102
So he cusses at Brooks every once in a blue while. The fuck?..
Nov 19th 2018
103
That’s where I’m at.
Nov 20th 2018
108
WaPost Story
Nov 20th 2018
105
he gone. don't know where, but he won't be there no more
Nov 20th 2018
106
non-story
Nov 20th 2018
107
      LOL
Nov 20th 2018
109
Five observations from Wizards' overtime win over the Rockets
Nov 27th 2018
110
Hmmm
Nov 27th 2018
111
Down 20 at NO, 3 minutes left in 4th
Nov 28th 2018
112
He’s parodying himself at this point
Nov 30th 2018
113
This dude.
Nov 30th 2018
114
Wednesday 12/12: do I now hate this team as much as I hate the Skins?
Dec 12th 2018
115
one of the most dysfunctional teams in the league
Dec 12th 2018
116
      lol...seems like you almost have to try to not get more than a point...
Dec 12th 2018
117
      Not like he’s injured or anything.
Dec 12th 2018
118
      he's just not trying out there.
Dec 12th 2018
119
      He's been out 2 of the last 3 games... bone spurs and a baby
Dec 12th 2018
120
      Ah, but he shows up for Kyrie...and still makes bad decisions
Dec 13th 2018
121
We you haven’t won shit you gotta dig up high school mixtapes
Dec 13th 2018
122
Nigga you’re a Wizards fan. Relax & go watch Wes Unseld outlet passes
Dec 13th 2018
123
Calm your ass down, this was more about the Wiz than Johnny.
Dec 14th 2018
124
lmfao
Dec 17th 2018
144
someone must have linked him this post, lol
Dec 16th 2018
125
Well damn Johnny
Dec 16th 2018
126
auditioning for the Lakers
Dec 16th 2018
128
might be a good look for him.
Dec 17th 2018
135
Second day of a back to back, thinking Lakers had fun Sat night in DC
Dec 16th 2018
131
Y'all disgust me.
Dec 16th 2018
127
Wall’s contract disgusts me.
Dec 16th 2018
129
      Then keep the same energy when checking the pockets of all superstars
Dec 16th 2018
130
           Oh he should get his money.
Dec 17th 2018
132
Don't really care about B-grade stars but I am enjoying this thread
Dec 17th 2018
133
I was at the game last night (Lakers)...do it every night then John
Dec 17th 2018
134
lol
Dec 17th 2018
136
pretty much. breh needs to bring it all 82.
Dec 17th 2018
140
      You’re right he should try to score 40 all 82 games.
Dec 17th 2018
143
           no, but the effort should be consistent
Dec 17th 2018
145
                Well you’ve said a lot of stupid shit in this thread & on this board.
Dec 17th 2018
147
                     Yes or no question, and be honest: do you watch the Wizards?.
Dec 17th 2018
149
                          This season, not as much as I did prior years.
Dec 17th 2018
152
Who’s doing what John’s doing?
Dec 17th 2018
137
you realize you're admitting you rigged it at the same time
Dec 17th 2018
138
Rigged what? He’s producing. You mad.
Dec 17th 2018
139
team records?
Dec 17th 2018
141
His team needs to play better.
Dec 17th 2018
142
      so John has no responsibility in that?
Dec 17th 2018
146
           Some, but he can’t make shots for niggaz.
Dec 17th 2018
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                Lonzo doesn't make $40mil a season...
Dec 17th 2018
150
                     Lonzo doesn't make 40% of his shots...
Dec 17th 2018
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                          Who's team has a better record?
Dec 17th 2018
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                               Dude stop trying to draw comps with Lonzo & everybody.
Dec 17th 2018
154
                                    You're the one that brings Lonzo into every convo lol
Dec 17th 2018
155
                                         Bro you been mad for a few months now.
Dec 17th 2018
156
                                              okayplayer. n/m
Dec 17th 2018
157
Cysing 1.2 win shares for a franchise player
Dec 20th 2018
175
Now there's the Johnny we all know and love.
Dec 18th 2018
158
Nah the refs.....
Dec 19th 2018
159
lulz
Dec 19th 2018
160
      oh shoot lol
Dec 19th 2018
161
      a GM is going to have to be pretty desperate to take on that contract
Dec 19th 2018
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      after 2019 Fagency, I guarantee someone will do it
Dec 19th 2018
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           I was thinking maybe somebody like Charlotte desperate to replace Kemba....
Dec 19th 2018
167
                oh he definitely can be traded the question is more about the return
Dec 19th 2018
169
      I had to search to confirm he actually said that
Dec 19th 2018
164
      wow.
Dec 19th 2018
165
Haha... you so pressed that you doing shot by shot replies now?
Dec 19th 2018
163
      And?
Dec 19th 2018
168
           You’re really refuting nothing about his performance this year.
Dec 19th 2018
170
                The East is wide open this year and WAS isn't in the mix.
Dec 19th 2018
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                Well if you can’t point out teammates who are playing to their avg’s...
Dec 19th 2018
172
                Wiz have a losing record because of him.
Dec 20th 2018
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                     Lol... you really gonna follow me around this board huh?
Dec 20th 2018
174
smfh.
Dec 21st 2018
176
reminds me of this amazing Alex Ovechkin gif
Dec 21st 2018
177
I'm going to sound so old here
Dec 21st 2018
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      Second Spectrum Data
Dec 21st 2018
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           I follow them on Twitter...SO GOOD!
Dec 21st 2018
180
John Wall season ending surgery.
Dec 29th 2018
181
playing = not injured tho, right?
Jan 03rd 2019
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      Still put up good #’s. He should’ve sat. Reggie Jackson still trash.
Jan 03rd 2019
189
           they were 13-23 lol
Jan 06th 2019
194
Wiz 1-7 in Wall's last 8 games, 3-1 without him.
Jan 03rd 2019
182
Beat me to it
Jan 03rd 2019
183
To get into the playoffs
Jan 03rd 2019
186
So what you're saying is the Wiz can beat bad teams &
Jan 03rd 2019
184
      I'm just going to encourage you to watch how they play
Jan 03rd 2019
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           The same shit happened last time.
Jan 03rd 2019
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                Yeah, the Wiz settled into a .500 record w/o him last year (25 games)
Jan 03rd 2019
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                     but true superstars aren’t selective about being special
Jan 03rd 2019
191
This team really is better without him. Maybe the knicks will take Wall...
Jan 06th 2019
192
They getting whatever they want against OKC
Jan 06th 2019
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Even the Miami loss was competitive. They lose by 30 with Wall.
Jan 07th 2019
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NAW, WE DON'T WANT THAT HEADACHE.
Jan 07th 2019
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I don't want to hear anyone's shit anymore. I'm serious.
Jan 10th 2019
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Basaglia
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1. "Ben And Jerry's to name flavor after John Wall: Custer's Custard. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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Tiger Woods
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2. "terrible attitude, terrible teammate"
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drives nearly as well as Kyrie but afraid to drive, drives nearly as fast as Westbrook but afraid of contact

face of a franchise in desperate need of one, yet doesn't endear himself to the city AT ALL. Bare minimum effort off court too.

Consistently agitated for not being considered "Top 5" at his position. A) pays WAY too much attention to this shit and B) doesn't make his team better at all (best they've played in four years was the stretch he was out last year)

He's the anti-Scherzer here, the anti-Ovi. I'd bet he's never had a halfsmoke and his face is on the side of Ben's building...

actually, check that, he's obviously not missing offseason meals so maybe he has eaten one.

Really, it's as simple as wanting Alpha credit and attention without putting in Alpha effort. I'd like to say "he'd be a great fit __________" but I don't even know who wants a point guard who can't shoot, doesn't want to sacrifice his body (unless it's to Domino's), and who's too selfish to try to make his teammates better every night.

  

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Basaglia
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3. "A+ truth-telling"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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4. "Lmao... yeah he should endear himself to more fans like YOU."
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8. "well, I mean I'm right and live here so yea"
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he shows up to Skins games in Cowboys jerseys and didn't go to a single Stanley Cup game even though they play in the same building. That shit makes fans feel a way, understandably.

  

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13. "Go tie some Walt Williams socks around your head & listen to Wale"
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Nobody cares about your D.C. sports fan code nigga.

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15. "we're talking about his leadership qualities are we not?"
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leaders do leader things

  

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17. "So you want him to lead by wearing a Dexter Manley jersey? Got it."
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Should he pull up to every game bumping E.U. too?

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16. "imagine caring about this shit"
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27. "RE: imagine caring about this shit"
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You could say that about sports as a whole.



If Derrick Rose showed up at a Bears game in an Aaron Rodgers jersey, I would have viewed it through a similar lens. If nothing else, it's tone-deaf and dumb, ESPECIALLY if you haven't won anything.


If Steph Curry wanted to wear a Chiefs jersey to a Raiders game, I imagine it would be a little different.

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38. "RE: imagine caring about this shit"
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>If Steph Curry wanted to wear a Chiefs jersey to a Raiders
>game, I imagine it would be a little different.

From what I recall, Steph showed up to a Panthers/Niners game in 2016 in a Panthers jersey. May have even sat in the Owner's box. That was excused because:

1. He's Steph and he gets to do whatever he wants in the Bay Area.

2. He'd won a championship by then.

3. He's always been upfront about his unabashed Panthers fandom. Shoot, in Superbowl 50 at Levi's he banged the Panthers drum to bring out the team.

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67. "the panthers aint the chiefs tho. not in oakland anyways."
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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6. "RE: terrible attitude, terrible teammate"
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7. "*****benediction organ chords******"
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11. "I only disagree on the driving"
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He gives up his body ALOT. He usually ends up on the ground when he drives and all of that contact is likely going to be what eventually injures him and robs him of some of his speed. He's talked about being more careful this year.

Otherwise, his whole persona is just off. It's like yo, why are you so bitter?

Some other great players have this whole "nobody believes in me" thing going on to motivate them but few wear their insecurity so publicly.

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12. "I just can't figure out why he shoots so many jumpers then"
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he needs to lean into his skillset, and his only really obvious bread-and-butter skill is driving.

Have you ever been to a Wizards game? Honestly just asking a yes or no question, no snark intended at all. I ask because I CANNOT TELL YOU how many times this guy pulls up from the elbow with like 18 seconds left in the shot clock and the entire crowd groans or yells "NOOOOOO!"

  

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19. "Yeah, I go to games"
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Wed Oct-31-18 12:47 PM by Cocobrotha2

          

Yeah, his jumper is still only mediocre but I think he takes it primarily to keep teams honest and setup lanes to drive. I think even he still realizes that getting to the basket is by far his best scoring potential.

He occasionally does get hot early and falls in love with his jumper but he consistently dives to the basket 4 or 5 times a game because that's an automatic 10+ points.

I think most of the groaning though is towards the end of the game when you'd usually want Brad taking the high pressure jumpers rather than John... or John putting pressure on the defense and trying to get to the basket.

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25. "lmao, holy shit if this is true"
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>Have you ever been to a Wizards game? Honestly just asking a
>yes or no question, no snark intended at all. I ask because I
>CANNOT TELL YOU how many times this guy pulls up from the
>elbow with like 18 seconds left in the shot clock and the
>entire crowd groans or yells "NOOOOOO!"

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30. "It's a necessary evil"
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He's gotta take some jump shots to keep the defense honest and he's improved over the years... but yeah, he's still not the one you want taking a jump shot when the clock's running down.

He'd usually be better off creating for someone else or going to the basket in those situations.

But early in the game and in the flow of the play? I say go ahead because if his jump-shot is on, he's impossible to guard.

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18. "I gotta agree"
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He has the 'talent' but not that 'gear' to take him to the next level. He wants all the accolades but not the grit to get it.

  

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20. "no lies told."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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5. "IN FULL AGREEMENT. Straight Bum. Spolied ass AAU gunning BUM."
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He got a top 5 shooting guard, a small forward who has gotten better every damn year!!! (And you know I used to shit on Otto...but he's balling now)....and you got Oubre, D12 etc....

Are there any videos of this muhphucka in the gym working on his shit this summer? Only muhphucka who could get away with that was Rod Strickland...and Rod is my dude, but he ain't win shit.

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9. "that Oubre isn't a borderline All-Star by now is partially Wall's fault"
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of course it's partially awful coaching and a generally uninspired culture too

But a legitimate ALL-STAR point guard should see a guy like Oubre and think "we can win three or four more games alone this year if I get this guy to a higher level"

Oubre is the best athlete on the team and has more dog in his left pinky than Wall has in his whole body. But on a team with guys like Wall and Markief Morris and shit, that type of environment can be detrimental for a young raw player.

  

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10. "Lol. How’s that DC club life nowadays? I’m sure he put in work ther..."
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>Are there any videos of this muhphucka in the gym working on
>his shit this summer? Only muhphucka who could get away with
>that was Rod Strickland...and Rod is my dude, but he ain't win
>shit..

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14. "Lol... you mad. Now there’s no footage of John working out?"
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This post is about to be good.

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42. "He all about this, "I'm top 5 shit"....bruh...."
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but guess what, I found clips LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU2LyqUMjDA


21% from 3. Fultz shooting better from three than Wall. LOL.


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23. "all I gotta say is that things would have been different "
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if LeBron came back to a Ky/Beal/Otto Cavaliers team.

Golden Piss could still have Klay and they'd still be on the other side of the bowl.

  

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39. "Well yeah, they woulda won. "
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21. "Ahhhh. It's come to this....."
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Yeah, so Wiz faithful here.

Wall is my guy, but honestly, yeah he's entitled. His shot is still below par of the peers he insists he's better than (Lowry, Lillard, Conley). He does talk a little much in social media for someone who's not a true meat-eating Alpha.

But he's still my guy.

He does drive well and sacrifice his body. His perimeter D is up and down. But I gotta admit, he's not the truest in the sense of the word leader. Meaning he doesn't always show on the court the heart that he talks about having.

I think him not making his team mates better is a garbage argument. Porter and Beal both got better along side him and Gortat probably had his last good years getting fed. Problem is the only other guys on the team with dog in them are Beal and Oubre. And Oubre isn't starting when he probably should be.

And the Wiz's best stretch wasn't when he was out last year (though it was beneficial to Beal), it was two years ago taking Boston to 7 and just missing the conference finals. Bad coaching and defensive switching aside, everyone played to potential that year.

But honestly, Brooks and Grunfeld especially probably need to go. The team built around Wall ain't built for nothing but mediocrity. And he ain't that rising tide that raises all ships with this group.
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22. "Ayyyy bro. Stop making sense."
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24. "Out of curiosity"
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what tier do you have Wall in terms of the other point guards?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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26. "currently- Cusp Tier."
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Yeah, I said it, CUSP.

Like, fanboy me wants to say he's top five. And he's been there in years past.

Right Today? He's not honestly top five. Not clearly. Cusp. Like if you ask ten mofos right now on the street the best 5pg's in the league today, prolly only 4 dudes would put him there max. If he was truly top five, it'd be 9/10.

Right Today? Nigga cusping like shit. And he does this every year, cause the Wizards do this every year- start like dog shit, go on a streak, end up winning in the mid 40's and drawing a 5-6 seed.

Right Today? Curry, Westbrook, Irving, Lillard, Paul. Then Regular Season Lowry, then some amalgam of Wall/Kemba/Conley. Haven't seen much Simmons so I won't speak on him.

Wall two years ago could edge out or at least draw even with Irving and Lillard. As always, it's his lack of shooting ability that keeps him cusping.

If it were me, i'd tell him to just about abandon anything but his mid-range from the right of the key, cause nothing else drops for him but that shot. Just keep driving the lane, finding your teammates, and tell Brooks "fuck you" on their bogus ass switches on D and specialize in being a defensive dog like Payton.

Even in a pg-centric era where lights out shooting is expected, driving finishes, continued excellence in passing AND top tier defensive abilities (IF he can ever push it there) would finally cement him as elite.

But he ain't. He's a perennial second tier all star who is very very good but lives on 19 & 9.5 Cusp Tier Lane NW, Washington D.C. 20004.
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"To Each His Reach"

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33. "Thank you for the thorough break down."
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It appears you are more of a Wizards fan than a John Wall fan/agenda rider, so kudos to you for sticking it out with him.

With LeBron gone, it has to be disappointing this team hasn't ascended to top tier status in the East. Then again, the season just started, so time will tell where this Wizards will be come playoff time.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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37. "BELOW PAR? His shot is below King Rice. He make Ben Simmons look"
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like Dale Ellis. And what goes beyond that is his terrible decision making, born of his entitlement.

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50. "this is it"
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They played well in the first 15 or so games Wall was out last year but then they were only average after that. The main issue is that Otto's shot isn't falling right now and their defense is despicable.

John's defense has ALWAYS been pathetic. He's a ball watcher who can't even stick with Shelvin Mack. If I was on his team I would not switch with him. If he's getting lit up, he's gotta learn to stay in defensive position and stay with his man. Use all that speed to beat his man to the spot on defense.

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51. "I agree mostly...."
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I don't think his defense has always been pathetic, but for a "leader" he don't take no pride in sticking his man either. He's all too willing to switch.

Prolly part ego, cause he don't wanna be responsible for getting torched.

Prime example: two years ago, in the 'offs against the Celtics, Isaiah Thomas was having his way with the team. Wall kept switching off leaving Morris or Gortat on speedy ass Thomas. He shot over them, or drove around their slow asses.

Brandon Jennings of all people, stuck with Thomas on a few possessions like in Game 6 or so. And he STUCK him. Didn't let him drive. Didn't switch off. Thomas passed or took bad shots for a stretch. Brandon.Fucking.Jennings.

Wall should be doing those things. More nights than most. But he doesn't.

>John's defense has ALWAYS been pathetic. He's a ball watcher
>who can't even stick with Shelvin Mack. If I was on his team
>I would not switch with him. If he's getting lit up, he's
>gotta learn to stay in defensive position and stay with his
>man. Use all that speed to beat his man to the spot on
>defense.


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52. "I'm telling you it's always been bad."
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Remember when Phil Pressey was brought up from the D league for one day and lit him up for 30 4 years ago and the celtics beat the wiz? The same shit. He's been a horrible defender for a long time.


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28. "man that's wild, i had the exact same thought last night "
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wall ain't trash, he's a good player, but he's a trash ass nigga to build your team around. and not at all a leader


if he's your highest paid player you ain't winning a motherfucking thing.

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29. "https://tinyurl.com/yaaqc79h"
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https://tinyurl.com/yaaqc79h

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31. "And this is why your guys get guns pointed at them now"
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Because trust...I'm waiting on the Mechanic to open shop in another city.

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34. "https://tinyurl.com/y782yssh"
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https://tinyurl.com/y782yssh

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/uudUc8x

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35. "Lmao... so in a discussion about leadership you bring up Jimmy Butler?"
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Tell me more.

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32. "Fascinating. Your guys hasn't even had an ACL yet is failing"
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to meet his potential.

Good post.


  

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36. "Your guy was a loser before the ACL. Let’s not rewrite history"
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40. "...you know there's a question that naturally ensues, right?"
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if "youngest mvp in league history / losing to lebron in the ecf" rose was a loser, then "most valuable $30-worth-of-chick-fil-a-orderer / losing to al fucking horford in rd 2" wall is.... what exactly?

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41. "jesus"
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>if "youngest mvp in league history / losing to lebron in the
>ecf" rose was a loser, then "most valuable
>$30-worth-of-chick-fil-a-orderer / losing to al fucking
>horford in rd 2" wall is.... what exactly?

  

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44. "Losing to Lebron in the ECF? Lmao... how many games did they win?"
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How well did Rose play?

That nigga and your team got washed.

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45. "yo nigga 30 and ain't been past rd 2"
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lmao!

"loser"

man, if you don't get the fuck out my face, nigga...

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47. "That 5 game “battle” between the Heat & Bulls! Lmao!"
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Y’all goofy Bulls niggaz been trying to eat off that for years.

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49. "yo nigga 31 and can't get past horford"
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lolz!

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53. "Your dude is a loser, reads like an illiterate jock in an 80s ..."
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after school special & might be a ***D-Rose sounding out words voice*** rrrrrrrrapist.

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43. "Who is their player development guy? Do they get some blame in this?"
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Assistant coaches??..

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46. "you gotta understand, the bar is SO low in this organization"
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this is a club that hasn't made it to the East finals since 1979.

To call them consistently mediocre would be an insult to consistently mediocre teams like the Mavericks or Heat. Those teams at least broke through eventually before settling back into mediocrity. The Wizards have basically never ascended from their traditional bottom-four-seeds-best.

So the standards are laughably low. Low enough to sell Gilbert Arenas, Caron Butler, and Antawn Jamison as a title-contending big three (lol).

Low enough to employ Ernie Grunfeld for over a decade. The same Ernie Grunfeld who thought it was smart to put Andray Blatche, Nick Young, and Javale McGee on the same team. The same Ernie Grunfeld who gave Ian Mahinmi 16 Million a year in an effort to save face after hometown hero Kevin Durant wouldn't even GIVE THEM A MEETING.

It's a losers' environment, and because the bar is so low there is no incentive to ever get better. That starts from the top on down. So, surely, if the decision makers never improve then the players won't either.

  

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48. "Ernie really, really has to go....."
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Ernie was the dude who used to be able to put together solid playoff teams. But anything that dude had in the tank was gone.

Being able to sign Arenas (coin flip aside) was a really good move.

Not signing Larry Hughes to a big payday and letting him walk was a really good move.

Essentially fleecing the Lakers for Caron Butler was a really good move.

Drafting Wall and Beal as well.

THAT'S IT. Every other move he's made covered up some other fuck up he made previously. He's just not a winning GM. His ceiling is building a 4-5 seed team. Let him go to the Nets or some other team that needs to get to playoffs that hasn't been in a while.

I think every GM has a certain number of savvy moves to make and favors to maybe call in. Ernie's expended all of his apparently. They really need a no-nonsense guy in the front office that's a lot more savvy in bringing together a grand vision. Part of what's wrong with the team now is Brooks + current roster = mismatch of abilities to execution. And Brooks ain't the greatest x and o's dude to start with.
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54. "John need to lose weight yo. He's way too big this season. "
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My biggest issue with John is that he really don't take enough pride in his body during the offseason. He's 28. He can't use the regular season to get down to playing size no more. And after all these years, John hasn't learned really how to play good shutdown defense. It's maddening.

  

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55. "Well he has Russ on deck for tonight. Won’t be able to out sprint him"
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<---
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56. "I’m setting over/under on turnovers at 7.5"
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57. "we beat the thunder in dc last year. I was there. It was a great game"
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America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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58. "Wall don't look as fast this season. He's definitely not out sprinting R..."
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59. "Down 30 at home at the half against a former MVP legitimate top 5 PG"
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Shit man just blow it up

  

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62. "Got his lunch money took last night by Russ."
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Shit wasn’t even competitive.

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60. "Welcome back Curse O' Les Boulez"
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61. "theyre gonna pay this dude $47M in his age 32 season?"
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im dying lmao

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63. "id still rather have him over reggie jackson"
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just not that that price.

i really want kemba walker though

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64. "at $16M? maybe"
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but 35% of a teams salary cap next year? hell nah lol

im not sure how he fits in with a team built around a semi-traditional 4 and 5 anyway, since he cant really shoot or defend. that would have worked better with Tobias imo.

and I dont think Kemba is in our price range anymore

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65. "WIZARDS WIN"
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America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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66. "Stephen A on Wall and the loser Wizards. This deserves Flex bombs."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqNOQUsDlso

  

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68. "He's getting pilloried, but it's getting a bit unfair at this point...."
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The Wiz are my team. They typically start slow, but at this pace, I dunno if they win 30 games.

And they're healthy. Is it just an off year for everyone? I mean this SAME squad, and SAME coach won 49 games 2 years ago.

At this point I think a lack of dynamism in the front office is as much to blame. It's like, the players know that if you can play just well enough to become a fan favorite, you'll get paid the max, cause the front office doesn't want to upset a fragile fan base.

If we had a better front office that will move guys and put the franchise first, dudes would play with more of an edge.

But I gotta hold the players accountable too, and it's not just wall. Everyone getting a paycheck, particularly starters, need to show a winning attitude and leadership. We just might not have that guy on the squad anymore. Where's Paul Pierce when you need him? Cause we desperately need an old soul that don't take no shit on the team. Not young cats who haven't won shit and think they know it all.
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Fuck aliens.

  

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69. "he's getting pilloried because he's not serious about his profession"
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he shows up out of shape, sulks in the corner when he doesn't have the ball, and lazes on defense, all while he demands the respect accorded to a Top Ten player, which he has never been.

so, yeah, i'd say it's fair.

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70. "dogg they’re 2-8"
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75. "Yep. They. THEY. "
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Yes, he's the "leader".

And I said it's A BIT unfair. I'm not arguing he's blameless.

But that front office gave Beal a max deal after a season where he averaged 15ppg. Luckily that's panned out, so far. Otto averaged less than that, got his money, justifies not shooting more or stepping up.

Yeah, Wall is the face of the franchise and should put a better face out to the public.

But he ain't gonna. I'm just saying other factors and players figure into this year's incarnation of the Curse of Les Boulez as well.
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Fuck aliens.

  

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76. "He begged for star consideration for years. Brought it on himself, no?"
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71. "john got the money he whined about so long. now he gets the blame"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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73. "Now that's fair. "
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"To Each His Reach"

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Fuck aliens.

  

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79. "^^^^^^^ Exactly, ole John "Thunder" Early ass muhphucka."
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4-17 "Jimmy Got Soul" azz....

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72. "https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/1060645329266241537"
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https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/1060645329266241537

...push the white Wraith, when they see me they flip
paint the top red like D. Wade's lips - Conway

  

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74. "LOL, I was waiting/looking for this. "
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Just saw it myself. Not a good look for sure. Not when you're the franchise dude. Can't and won't argue that. He's gotta put a better face on it.
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78. "That DC nightlife is a mutha!! "
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This won’t end well

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77. "They have to be over the salary cap...?"
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https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/WAS.html

$116M committed next year to 6 players

they literally have to blow that $hit up

6th highest payroll in the league = last place

Whoever signed that Wall contract...$46M player option...should never work in basketball again.

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80. "Dude’s a loser, it’s an open and shut case boys and girls"
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19 points @ Orlando? Top 5? Kyrie would’ve had 19 first quarter.

  

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82. "You sound like a bozo bro. "
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https://tinyurl.com/y8j7vtzb

Sorry but you do.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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83. "Just cause I’m pouring on doesn’t mean I’m wrong "
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81. "maybe the worst contract in league history "
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and it hasn't even started yet.

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84. "Wizards win 3 in a row"
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America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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85. "Ssssssh.... John Wall is the worst player, fat, & a bad leader."
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If the Wiz lose its his fault.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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86. "just checked schedule...5 game losing streak on deck "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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87. "Maybe. I know he’ll ball out though. Everyone else needs to step up."
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Mad?

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88. "He is a bad leader...and it will probably be his fault."
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He has a solid center, an all-nba shooting guard, two solid wing players and a goon that can ball....

No reason why they cannot do better and extend the streak.

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89. "https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064547335768821761"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064547335768821761

...push the white Wraith, when they see me they flip
paint the top red like D. Wade's lips - Conway

  

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90. "if they didn't have to trade 'dre to do it"
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I wouldn't be 100% against the pistons trading for Wall. assuming it didn't have the kicker


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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94. "I've never really used it before, but according to the trade machine"
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you could swap reggie jackson for john wall straight up?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zgmo722

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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95. "the shitty part of his contract hasnt started yet"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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99. "so the only thing stopping people from trading for wall"
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is that he's john wall.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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91. "RE: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064547335768821761"
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I wouldn't be surprised if Lakers make an offer.

  

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92. "Who's trading for that contract?"
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93. "I actually think New Orleans will inquire about at least Otto, maybe Wal..."
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They seem hell-bent on proving to AD they mean business.

  

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96. "lol...geez..."
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1064634151884779520

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97. "Dame deep fried homeboy last night"
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<---
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98. "eh, that happens...I mean, Kemba hung 60 on Jimmy's neck..."
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like a Rick Ross chain. Sometimes dudes just be goin.

...push the white Wraith, when they see me they flip
paint the top red like D. Wade's lips - Conway

  

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104. "check the schedule and lets see what the collective win loss"
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record will be against elite PGs along with how many points they drop on him.

Cuz he running out on court with his card board nun-chucks and these ninjas are pulling fresh out the "I worked on MY game all summer" forged blades and cutting him to bits.

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100. "https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064672876073230337"
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1064672876073230337

...push the white Wraith, when they see me they flip
paint the top red like D. Wade's lips - Conway

  

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101. "lmao, "Raise my practice intensity? Fuck you!!" "
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Hungry Hippos: The Movie. Now available to read: http://www.russellhainline.com.

  

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102. "sounds like he did raise his intensity, to be fair"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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103. "So he cusses at Brooks every once in a blue while. The fuck?.."
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<---
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108. "That’s where I’m at."
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Cusses at him and apologizes. While they’re in the middle of a losing season and struggling to gel.

So?

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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105. "WaPost Story "
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/11/20/im-sick-this-wizards-dysfunction-boils-over-into-verbal-altercations-recent-practice

Several Washington Wizards players engaged in heated verbal altercations with each other throughout a practice late last week and hurled pointed, and sometimes profane, comments at Coach Scott Brooks and team President Ernie Grunfeld.

According to several people who witnessed the contentious practice Thursday, an on-court confrontation between John Wall and Jeff Green broke out, and so did another between Bradley Beal and Austin Rivers. In the aftermath of those respective spats, Wall directed an expletive at Brooks and Beal erupted about Grunfeld.

Multiple people who are familiar with what happened described the scene as normal during a long and grueling NBA season. They also expressed unequivocally the arguments did not turn physical and that players hashed out their differences afterward and expressed regret for growing heated in the moment. Even so, the mounting anger and embarrassment felt among players during this 5-11 start to the season have reached a boiling point, leading to a rare team fine levied at Wall and the revelation of Beal’s private frustrations directed at team management.

“This is embarrassing,” a person familiar with the team said. “This is crazy.”

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106. "he gone. don't know where, but he won't be there no more"
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it's only a matter of time.

(I hope to the Matrix the Cavs don't swap Hill for him or some dumb stuff)

  

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107. "non-story"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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109. "LOL"
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...push the white Wraith, when they see me they flip
paint the top red like D. Wade's lips - Conway

  

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110. "Five observations from Wizards' overtime win over the Rockets"
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"Wall was great: This was Wall's best game of the season. Whether it was the matchup with Harden or not, Wall brought his A-game on both ends of the floor.

He was locked in defensively and on offense zipped accurate passes at angles few NBA players can. He was also smooth in transition, consistently not only getting to the rim, but maintaining ball control to finish.

Wall had 35 points, 11 assists and two blocks. It was a vintage performance from a guy who some believe is on the decline. Wall reminded everyone emphatically what he is capable of. He can be downright impossible to stop and the Rockets had no answer for him."


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111. "Hmmm"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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112. "Down 20 at NO, 3 minutes left in 4th"
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Down one point for every helping of gumbo John had for lunch

What a wholly unlikeable team this is

  

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113. "He’s parodying himself at this point "
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https://uproxx.com/dimemag/john-wall-criticized-officials-blowout-loss-to-sixers/

Another 30 point loss and still delusional enough to blame the refs. The worst John Wall is doing an impression of the worst John Wall right now

  

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114. "This dude."
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<---
Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

  

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115. "Wednesday 12/12: do I now hate this team as much as I hate the Skins?"
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Dr Claw
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116. "one of the most dysfunctional teams in the league"
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there are some that are just BAD because of circumstance mostly (Suns, Cavs, Knicks, etc)

but there are two that are above and beyond dysfunctional and bad: Wizards, Bulls.

here's the statline from the Cleveland game:

Wall in 26 min:

1 pt, 0-5 FG, 0-3 3PT ... complete donut on field goals

He did have 6 assists and 4 rebounds however

but damn, Anthony Bennett boxscores from the leader when you play 26 min is not good. word was that there was an injury concern.

Beal and floppin' ass Oubre were the ones being nuisances in that game

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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117. "lol...seems like you almost have to try to not get more than a point..."
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in 26 minutes of an NBA game.

...push the white Wraith, when they see me they flip
paint the top red like D. Wade's lips - Conway

  

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118. "Not like he’s injured or anything. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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119. "he's just not trying out there. "
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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120. "He's been out 2 of the last 3 games... bone spurs and a baby"
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Probably should've sat out against the Cavs too.

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->

  

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121. "Ah, but he shows up for Kyrie...and still makes bad decisions"
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1-5 on threes, but you decide you're the one who should launch one from thirty feet in overtime, instead of your shooting guard who was 3-6.

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122. "We you haven’t won shit you gotta dig up high school mixtapes "
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https://twitter.com/washwizards/status/1073321663968763909?s=21

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123. "Nigga you’re a Wizards fan. Relax & go watch Wes Unseld outlet passes"
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Y’all niggaz love shitting on the best player y’all had in years.

Nope. Not on my watch.

I’m calling out all fuck shit.

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124. "Calm your ass down, this was more about the Wiz than Johnny."
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Wiz haven’t won shit so they cant tweet any major win highlights. Nobody gives a shit about some high school And 1 mixtape from 2008.

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144. "lmfao"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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125. "someone must have linked him this post, lol"
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126. "Well damn Johnny"
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<---
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128. "auditioning for the Lakers"
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hope it happens with that contract after they can't get AD

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135. "might be a good look for him."
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the key to the Lakers making the LeBron era work is finding someone that can run the floor when he's not on it.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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131. "Second day of a back to back, thinking Lakers had fun Sat night in DC"
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They came out flat as hell.

Wall was waiting with the ambush.

  

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127. "Y'all disgust me."
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129. "Wall’s contract disgusts me. "
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------------------------------
'18-'19 LA Lakers

James. Ingram. Ball. Kuzma. Stephenson. Rondo. Caldwell-Pope. Zubac. McGee. Beasely. TBD...

  

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130. "Then keep the same energy when checking the pockets of all superstars"
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If not, i’ll continue to look at you crooked like Lonzo sideways like Lonzo’s stat lines.

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132. "Oh he should get his money. "
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Doesn’t mean it’s not a bad contract.

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133. "Don't really care about B-grade stars but I am enjoying this thread"
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RBO in here like

https://media2.giphy.com/media/N4fb3heBF668U/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095c17387b646244353683f2ed

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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134. "I was at the game last night (Lakers)...do it every night then John"
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Don’t just do it when you’re auditioning for a new employer and there’s 47% more Insta thots in the building...do it when Detroit’s in town on a Tuesday too

He played so well last night, I mean he did EVERYTHING RIGHT! Defended! Distributed! Rebounded! Drove!

Asshole!

Do it every night then!!!

  

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136. "lol"
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> and there’s 47% more Insta thots in the
>building...

aside from money, is there a better motivator

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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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140. "pretty much. breh needs to bring it all 82."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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143. "You’re right he should try to score 40 all 82 games."
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Somebody should bring this to his attention.

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145. "no, but the effort should be consistent"
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I go to a half dozen Wizards games a year, and have almost as long as he's been here. I can say with certainty that last night was the hardest I've ever seen him play. He was making the right passes, he was chasing rebounds, getting back on defense. Asking for 40 a night is stupid, but asking for consistent effort from a super max guy who wants to be considered an elite player is a reasonable request.

  

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147. "Well you’ve said a lot of stupid shit in this thread & on this board."
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Especially about John.

He plays hard. He gets his teammates involved and has done so since being in the league.

The team isn’t as good, because his supporting cast isn’t as good. It’s as simple as that.

Sure he’s an easy target cuz he’s the star of the squad and just signed a new deal.

But as soon as they start winning again niggaz gonna be on some “OMG John Wall balling!”

FOH... it’s disgusting.

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149. "Yes or no question, and be honest: do you watch the Wizards?."
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152. "This season, not as much as I did prior years."
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They’re trash. And I hate watching anybody but John & Brad on that team.

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137. "Who’s doing what John’s doing?"
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http://bkref.com/tiny/EIoFZ

That’s it. Only 4 other dudes putting up them same numbers.

20 ppg
8 apg
1 bpg
1 spg
45% Fg

Hmmmm... yeah I’m calling all you niggaz out from here on.

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138. "you realize you're admitting you rigged it at the same time"
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"For single seasons; played in the NBA/BAA; in the regular season; in 2018-19; requiring Points Per Game >= 20 and Assists Per Game >= 8 and Field Goals >= 45 and Steals Per Game >= 1; sorted by descending Win Shares"

  

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139. "Rigged what? He’s producing. You mad. "
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141. "team records?"
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"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

2014 DAMALI Football Pool Champion

  

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142. "His team needs to play better."
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146. "so John has no responsibility in that?"
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"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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148. "Some, but he can’t make shots for niggaz."
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Just like you can’t wish Lonzo to be good.

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150. "Lonzo doesn't make $40mil a season..."
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>Just like you can’t wish Lonzo to be good.

"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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151. "Lonzo doesn't make 40% of his shots..."
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Or the All Star game.
Or game winning shots
He doesn’t make a lot of shit... including his teammates better.

The nigga is trash. And you’re here cuz you’re mad that I called him trash.

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153. "Who's team has a better record?"
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"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

2014 DAMALI Football Pool Champion

  

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154. "Dude stop trying to draw comps with Lonzo & everybody."
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It makes you sound stupid.

As stupid as you criticizing Colin Sexton cuz of his hair?

No, that makes you sound suspect.

But this makes you sound stupid.

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155. "You're the one that brings Lonzo into every convo lol"
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"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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156. "Bro you been mad for a few months now."
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Hopped in a few posts hating.

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157. "okayplayer. n/m"
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"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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175. "Cysing 1.2 win shares for a franchise player"
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bshelly

"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God

  

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158. "Now there's the Johnny we all know and love."
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That 0-6 is probably his teammates fault though

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'18-'19 LA Lakers

James. Ingram. Ball. Kuzma. Stephenson. Rondo. Caldwell-Pope. Zubac. McGee. Beasely. TBD...

  

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159. "Nah the refs....."
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160. "lulz"
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Wall, coming off his 40 points and 14 assists in a 128-110 victory over the Los Angeles Lakers on Sunday night, missed each of his six shots in the first half. He finished with 15 points.

''Couldn't get in a rhythm,'' Wall said. ''They called so many fouls I couldn't even play.''

smfh.

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161. "oh shoot lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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162. "a GM is going to have to be pretty desperate to take on that contract"
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"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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166. "after 2019 Fagency, I guarantee someone will do it"
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167. "I was thinking maybe somebody like Charlotte desperate to replace Kemba...."
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outside of that I can't really think of anybody else who would want to deal with that

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169. "oh he definitely can be traded the question is more about the return"
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can they get something of real value? maybe not. would they have to take back a shitty contract? also probably not. i think they could clear it from the books but that's about it.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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164. "I had to search to confirm he actually said that"
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165. "wow."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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163. "Haha... you so pressed that you doing shot by shot replies now?"
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21/9/45%

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168. "And? "
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James. Ingram. Ball. Kuzma. Stephenson. Rondo. Caldwell-Pope. Zubac. McGee. Beasely. TBD...

  

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170. "You’re really refuting nothing about his performance this year."
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But hey when the season is over we can remember he started 0-6 against the Hawks in December

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171. "The East is wide open this year and WAS isn't in the mix."
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It's probably his teammates fault tho. Or the refs.

*looks at the title of this post* *nods*

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172. "Well if you can’t point out teammates who are playing to their avg’s..."
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be my guest.

If not you can continue with the mid-90’s “Friends” era snark. Just don’t expect me to pretend that it’s good.

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173. "Wiz have a losing record because of him."
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174. "Lol... you really gonna follow me around this board huh?"
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Explain how the Wizards losing record is directly because of him?

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176. "smfh."
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"(De’Aaron) Fox also mentioned John Wall as one of the league’s fastest players. That’s undoubtedly factual, but it’s hard to tell on plays like this.

Check out @TheRenderNBA’s Tweet:
https://twitter.com/TheRenderNBA/status/1075613476939317248?s=09
John Wall's controller runs out of battery mid game

While Wall is a prodigious All-Star talent, he invites criticism at times. ESPN’s Zach Lowe wrote last season the Wizards point guard “has spent 76.57 percent of floor time either standing still or walking, the largest such share among all rotation players, according to tracking data from Second Spectrum.”"

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/12/20/about-last-night-12-19-18?collection=about-last-night

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177. "reminds me of this amazing Alex Ovechkin gif"
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https://i.imgur.com/haRBQL7.gif?noredirect

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178. "I'm going to sound so old here"
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>While Wall is a prodigious All-Star talent, he invites
>criticism at times. ESPN’s Zach Lowe wrote last season the
>Wizards point guard “has spent 76.57 percent of floor time
>either standing still or walking, the largest such share among
>all rotation players, according to tracking data from Second
>Spectrum.”"
>
>http://www.nba.com/article/2018/12/20/about-last-night-12-19-18?collection=about-last-night


but it's pretty wild this is something that can actually get tracked with accuracy. The powers of technology are shining through I suppose. How is that specific stat tracked though; I'm assuming it's through review of old game footage, right? That seems incredible time and energy consuming since I'm assuming that has to be done with the human eye and not simply through digital programming.

I'm assuming that an accurate number there since Zach Lowe is a fairly reputable dude and all.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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179. "Second Spectrum Data"
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Second Spectrum is the official video tracking technology provider for the NBA since the 2017-2018 season. Before Second Spectrum, SportVu had been running as the main player tracking company throughout 2013-14 and 2016-17 seasons.

In 2013 Rajiv Maheswaran, Yu-Han Chang, and Jeff Su founded an sports-tech company that helps players, coaches, broadcasters, analysts, and fans visualize and contextualize large amounts of sports data. With the video tracking technology, the cameras installed on NBA arenas can collect 3D spatial data including ball/player/referee locations, movements, and other dynamic statistical/visual features. “Spatiotemporal pattern recognition” technique identifies and augments data extracted from the video to generate insights and visualize new types of stats such as Quantified Shot Quality (qSQ) and Quantified Shooter Impact (qSI) so the context produced can be used for storytelling.​

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180. "I follow them on Twitter...SO GOOD!"
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...push the white Wraith, when they see me they flip
paint the top red like D. Wade's lips - Conway

  

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181. "John Wall season ending surgery."
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1079112074075222016

Fuck that... this belongs in this post.

Playing injured all year. Still put up good numbers. Now he's missing the rest of the season.

I predict a few "suck my dick" responses from me in the next few months.

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188. "playing = not injured tho, right?"
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189. "Still put up good #’s. He should’ve sat. Reggie Jackson still trash."
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194. "they were 13-23 lol"
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182. "Wiz 1-7 in Wall's last 8 games, 3-1 without him."
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183. "Beat me to it "
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They’re going to earn a 6,7, or 8 seed now, will be a lot more fun to watch, and won’t embarrass themselves.

I’m going to the game next Friday the 11th (Giannis) and I’m actually looking forward to it not just because I get to see an opposing team’s star

  

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186. "To get into the playoffs"
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the Wizards will need to get an above .500 or damn near close to .500; you have confidence they'll get to that level after 82 games?

And I well aware they went on a tear last year when John Wall went out, but I don't think they had the abysmal team record last year that they have now. I could be wrong since you are much more of a Wizards fan than I am.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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184. "So what you're saying is the Wiz can beat bad teams & "
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play better without an injured John Wall?

No way.

But hey, I'll let y'all act like hoes.

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185. "I'm just going to encourage you to watch how they play"
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I'll let the "hoes" part pass, even though we're right and you don't really watch this team.

I'm just going to encourage you to watch how they play over the course of the next month. Watch how much livelier they'll all seem, and more specifically watch how well the ball will move. Just watch.

And if I'm wrong, I'll come back here and take this L and accept the "hoe" mantle.

But all I'll ask for is that you watch.

  

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187. "The same shit happened last time. "
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The Wiz played better momentarily. Beat shitty teams. Until they didn’t play better. And y’all niggaz were looking stupid.

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190. "Yeah, the Wiz settled into a .500 record w/o him last year (25 games)"
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But they were roughly.500 the rest of the season too. That was a big data set showing that the Wiz aren't better without (an injured) him... but they ARE just as good.

And as he gets older, he's only going to get injured more often and he's going to be less likely to have those special games that make him tolerable to his teammates.

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
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191. "but true superstars aren’t selective about being special"
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>And as he gets older, he's only going to get injured more
>often and he's going to be less likely to have those special
>games that make him tolerable to his teammates.

True superstars are just special every night

  

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192. "This team really is better without him. Maybe the knicks will take Wall..."
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otherwise i don't seeing anyone else touching it and with Mudliay playing so well Wall is probably untradeable. Everyone functions better without wall on the court.

  

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193. "They getting whatever they want against OKC"
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<---
Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

  

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195. "Even the Miami loss was competitive. They lose by 30 with Wall."
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Someone will take him dogg, I know it. These guys move around all the time, and some team is gonna think they’re one John Wall away from turning a corner. The contract is disgusting but I don’t even think that’s the number one hurdle. The biggest thing in the way of trading him is our ownership - Leonsis is loyal almost to a fault (Grunfeld), and he probably thinks if he rides with Wall long enough he’ll be vindicated (Ovechkin)

  

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196. "NAW, WE DON'T WANT THAT HEADACHE."
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197. "I don't want to hear anyone's shit anymore. I'm serious. "
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They're obviously better, playing harder, and just all around more likeable without him. This isn't even an opinion at this point. We have an open and shut case on our hands. Trade him for anything if you can, even if that means eating some of the salary for a year or two.

  

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