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bshelly
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"LEAVEan is smart, sorry players mad"


  

          

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I’m amazed a dude hasn’t figured out that this is exactly how one should play the last year of the dumb ass franchise tag. Sit for ten weeks, show up out of shape, and “pull a hamstring” on your first play,

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Steelers did this to themselves
Sep 05th 2018
1
NFL players rarely have high leverage, have to use it
Sep 05th 2018
2
only quarterbacks have leverage, everyone else is expendable
Sep 06th 2018
11
Good for him
Sep 05th 2018
3
Such a power move
Sep 05th 2018
4
Great, now I have Elton John’s “Levon” stuck in my head.
Sep 06th 2018
5
RE: LEAVEan is smart, sorry players mad
Sep 06th 2018
6
RE: LEAVEan is smart, sorry players mad
Sep 06th 2018
7
      I took Bell first, but kept Kamara, and got Fournette in the 3rd
Sep 06th 2018
8
           reminds me of 2015 when Le'Veon Bell missed most of that year...
Sep 06th 2018
9
                and erybody in Charlotte was baffled...lol
Sep 06th 2018
10
                     DW was a beast but often injured
Sep 08th 2018
42
                          He wasnt no beast...he ran East/West behind a line that couldnt hold
Sep 10th 2018
50
Pouncey mad cuz he shot off his mouth the other day..
Sep 06th 2018
12
i can't even imagine the parties levean is having right now
Sep 06th 2018
13
Imagine being one of those mad Steeler players
Sep 06th 2018
14
Imagine being a moral, care about others, rapist
Sep 06th 2018
15
^^^
Sep 06th 2018
19
they're mad because he's not making them money
Sep 06th 2018
16
      Yeah but what is MISTER ROONEY supposed to do?
Sep 06th 2018
18
      breh talkin about "he make 7 times what I make"...
Sep 06th 2018
21
      he'll have a point if Conner runs wild tho
Sep 06th 2018
29
      your numbers lookin kinda crooked
Sep 06th 2018
30
           there's this thing called receiving
Sep 07th 2018
31
           lol yes im sure ben would just be eating sacks left and right
Sep 07th 2018
32
           on pace for 2200 and 20 total TDs, while 1st in the division
Nov 08th 2018
80
                That on pace bullshit is hilarious
Nov 08th 2018
81
                     its week 10, not week 4
Nov 08th 2018
84
                          If we played Cleveland and Atlanta 2 more times then sure
Nov 13th 2018
126
                               Like I said... Conner wasn’t going to run for 125 every game
Nov 26th 2018
           Huh? Cracking 100 vs the Browns isn’t out of the question
Sep 08th 2018
36
I want to see him sit out the season
Sep 06th 2018
17
they should've or still should trade him
Sep 06th 2018
20
Browns AFC North Champs confirmed
Sep 06th 2018
22
He must be an asshole...
Sep 06th 2018
23
has alot to do with the team culture
Sep 06th 2018
24
Villanueva, US army vet, was forced to apologize after
Sep 06th 2018
26
yeah this is odd. i'd expect more support. or at least neutral commentar...
Sep 06th 2018
25
How do players end up siding with ownership in this case?
Sep 06th 2018
27
      RE: How do players end up siding with ownership in this case?
Sep 07th 2018
33
           Fake News
Sep 08th 2018
34
                RE: Fake News
Sep 08th 2018
35
                     Pouncey assumed and made an ass of himself
Sep 08th 2018
37
                          and they're out here making comments about the money
Sep 08th 2018
39
                               RE: and they're out here making comments about the money
Sep 08th 2018
40
it's somewhat unique because he's not holding out for more $$
Sep 06th 2018
28
      It’s definitely about money
Sep 08th 2018
38
           RE: It’s definitely about money
Sep 08th 2018
41
So...at age 26, David Johnson just got 3/39 with 30 guaranteed.
Sep 08th 2018
43
combined with Conner's day...
Sep 09th 2018
44
I don’t it matters how well Conner plays
Sep 09th 2018
46
      yeah it does...it has an impact on how willing either side is to budge
Sep 10th 2018
51
           RE: budge
Sep 10th 2018
52
                ah didn't realize that...thanks.
Oct 01st 2018
58
lol at comparing Johnson to Le'veon
Sep 09th 2018
45
      lol @ you thinking I that's what I was doing.
Sep 09th 2018
47
           they are a thong...no need for unbunching
Sep 09th 2018
48
                nice
Sep 10th 2018
49
he's available...
Sep 23rd 2018
53
this entire situation is silly...
Sep 23rd 2018
54
Bradshaw says, Tomlin's fault
Sep 24th 2018
55
Thanks Gruden.
Sep 25th 2018
56
RE: LEAVEan is smart, earl thomas mad
Oct 01st 2018
57
Steeler fans mad as shit at Bell... but Earl Thimas
Oct 01st 2018
59
"they offered him twice as much as the second most rb!!"
Oct 01st 2018
60
Imagine if I refused to come to work
Oct 02nd 2018
69
      FUCK!! That annoys the shit outta me, man...
Oct 02nd 2018
70
           utterly fuckin MIND. BLOWING.
Oct 02nd 2018
72
                and so much of the outrage is based on lies
Oct 02nd 2018
73
sat in my moms suite last night at the game
Oct 01st 2018
61
will report to team during Week 7 bye, per ESPN
Oct 01st 2018
62
1-4-1 when he steps on the field.
Oct 01st 2018
63
I’ll believe it when it happens.
Oct 01st 2018
64
Bomani: he wants to get paid for the bye
Oct 01st 2018
65
      LiT!!!!
Oct 02nd 2018
68
      basically...
Oct 02nd 2018
71
praise the fantasy gawds.
Oct 01st 2018
67
It's bout time these NFL players smarten up
Oct 01st 2018
66
Iggles restructured Cox's contract
Oct 09th 2018
74
If you want to save your season you need to trade for Bell
Oct 09th 2018
75
This guy has passed on 7 million dollars on purpose
Oct 24th 2018
76
Earl Thomas is all you need to know.
Oct 24th 2018
77
That’s such a “maybe” scenario
Oct 24th 2018
78
      If that was the case then the Steelers could’ve let him test FA
Oct 24th 2018
79
it appears you are acting like the enlightened one
Nov 08th 2018
83
Still not sure how Conner makes Bells decision a bad one.
Nov 08th 2018
82
for me at least, it casts doubt on whether Bell was all that special
Nov 08th 2018
85
any backs out there catching 100 balls and producing that much on the gr...
Nov 08th 2018
86
      Gurley and Kamara are both better
Nov 08th 2018
89
           Bell has the record for most rushing yards in 2 playoff games
Nov 13th 2018
112
nah, it just further justifies the Steelers decision
Nov 08th 2018
87
      Conner’s success confirms what most GMs already think:
Nov 08th 2018
88
           theres a caveat here, and a big one
Nov 08th 2018
90
                Unless every team with a huge salary cap has a Conner
Nov 12th 2018
103
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25237155/leveon-bell-not-expected-rep...
Nov 10th 2018
91
RE: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25237155/leveon-bell-not-expected...
Nov 10th 2018
92
      when he settles for $10M a year in Buffalo or Tampa next year...
Nov 11th 2018
93
      I see your point but ehhh
Nov 11th 2018
94
      RE: I see your point but ehhh
Nov 11th 2018
97
           This is exactly why he's sitting, though.
Nov 12th 2018
100
                RE: This is exactly why he's sitting, though.
Nov 12th 2018
101
                     He wouldn’t get the whole 14 mill. It would be 6 mill
Nov 12th 2018
105
      hes playing himself
Nov 11th 2018
95
           RE: hes playing himself
Nov 12th 2018
102
                We haven’t seen the contract yet
Nov 12th 2018
106
LOL...people really be on the grind...searchin...
Nov 11th 2018
96
Internet stays undefeated
Nov 11th 2018
98
"smart"
Nov 11th 2018
99
Bell was going to be a year older whether he played or not
Nov 12th 2018
104
RE: Bell was going to be a year older whether he played or not
Nov 13th 2018
107
He is in real danger of fucking it up for himself
Nov 13th 2018
108
You don’t get a larger cut if you sell more jerseys.
Nov 13th 2018
110
At least Earl Thomas ultimately came back so he COULD get paid
Nov 13th 2018
109
So if Earl Thomas never plays again
Nov 13th 2018
111
Passing up that much money on purpose is rarely, if ever, a good idea
Nov 13th 2018
114
      RE: Passing up that much money on purpose is rarely, if ever, a good ide...
Nov 13th 2018
115
      Bell warned the team he could sit out this year if they tagged him again...
Nov 13th 2018
117
           yep...dude said he was prepared to miss the entire season or retire
Nov 13th 2018
118
           RE: Bell warned the team he could sit out this year if they tagged him a...
Nov 13th 2018
120
                He really doesn’t need a blockbuster deal. Just guaranteed years
Nov 13th 2018
122
                     RE: He really doesn’t need a blockbuster deal. Just guaranteed years
Nov 13th 2018
127
                          Lmao. You don’t get paid 6 mill and then tell them how much you will p...
Nov 14th 2018
128
                               RE: Lmao. You don’t get paid 6 mill and then tell them how much you wi...
Nov 14th 2018
144
                                    I agree. I think he gets 30 to 40 guaranteed
Nov 14th 2018
145
                                         RE: I agree. I think he gets 30 to 40 guaranteed
Nov 14th 2018
147
      Earl Thomas was in the last year of a 4 year/40 mill contract
Nov 13th 2018
116
           it has EVERYTHING to do with the CBA
Nov 13th 2018
121
                I was talking about Earl Thomas’ situation.
Nov 13th 2018
123
How much does he get next season?
Nov 13th 2018
113
      I think he gets 60
Nov 16th 2018
148
the way the NFL works he'll probably end up with less than he wouldve
Nov 13th 2018
119
      the NFL is all bout offense right now
Nov 13th 2018
125
           at the price he wants + previous workload? i'll take my chances in the d...
Nov 14th 2018
130
                Draft is a crap shoot
Nov 14th 2018
146
there's no "good way" to play this current CBA.
Nov 13th 2018
124
yeah, he lost.
Nov 14th 2018
140
I think Bell has a handshake deal already with a team
Nov 14th 2018
129
Would you leave the Steelers for the Jets?
Nov 14th 2018
133
if you're dumb and getting bad advice, sure. And I think that's it.
Nov 14th 2018
134
This is 100% wrong
Nov 14th 2018
139
      ???
Nov 14th 2018
141
           Feel sorry for Earl Thomas and Dez Bryant.
Nov 14th 2018
142
           what agent
Nov 26th 2018
156
                Agent gets a percentage of the whole contract up front.
Nov 26th 2018
158
If the Jets will give me the long term deal w/ the guarantees I want?
Nov 14th 2018
137
Folks acting like Jets money ain’t real money
Nov 14th 2018
143
I would leave any team for a better deal
Nov 14th 2018
138
i'd bet Packers
Nov 14th 2018
136
      Packers are too cheap. They let Jordy Nelson go
Nov 27th 2018
161
lmao...
Nov 14th 2018
131
He cant even be funny right.
Nov 14th 2018
132
lock: he was worried "Who Dis" could've been perceived as racist
Nov 14th 2018
135
Bell tweets he is a Jets fan
Nov 16th 2018
149
Tried to tell Steeler fans Conner ain’t no Bell
Nov 26th 2018
150
he's a good RB...real good...
Nov 26th 2018
151
      Bell is Ben's security blanket, when you take that away
Nov 26th 2018
152
      Bell is better than Conner, but a bad pick can just be a bad pick
Nov 26th 2018
153
           Nah... we win that Cleveland game
Nov 26th 2018
154
      RE: he's a good RB...real good...
Nov 26th 2018
155
           The problem is Ben isn’t that dude.
Nov 26th 2018
157
                RE: The problem is Ben isn’t that dude.
Nov 27th 2018
159
                     We definitely screwed this up
Nov 27th 2018
160
                          RE: We definitely screwed this up
Nov 27th 2018
162

bentagain
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1. "Steelers did this to themselves "
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He's got nothing to prove

What's the company line on why he's gone seasons without a deal

Bet all of those guys crowing about his absence and how confident they are in Conner...have a contract

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LA2Philly
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2. "NFL players rarely have high leverage, have to use it"
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especially if you're a running back - have to maximize your health and earnings potential.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

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11. "only quarterbacks have leverage, everyone else is expendable"
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if he thinks he's going to get a 17MM+ deal elsewhere (as a RB in 2018) he's getting bad advice

He's good, borderline special even, but the team will still win 10+ games without him.

  

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icecold21
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3. "Good for him"
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Get your money. Steelers should just pay him and quit all this bullshittin over all these years

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4. "Such a power move"
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Either the Steelers can commit to healthier usage of him, or he can rest his body a few weeks and easily make that money back later.

  

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5. "Great, now I have Elton John’s “Levon” stuck in my head."
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Hungry Hippos: The Movie. Now available to read: http://www.russellhainline.com.

  

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6. "RE: LEAVEan is smart, sorry players mad"
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but what about people who drafted him first in fantasy leagues? i know someone in a 500 dollar league

numbers look crooked like king kong shook it - jdilla

  

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7. "RE: LEAVEan is smart, sorry players mad"
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>but what about people who drafted him first in fantasy
>leagues? i know someone in a 500 dollar league

Hehe. If they drafted in late August, it was foolish to take Bell in the top 5 when he hadn’t showed up yet or even commented that he would show up.

I’m in a league where a dude took Bell in the first and McKinnon in the 3rd. And he didn’t draft any of the backups. In an 18 round draft. Price is Right horns on that shit.

  

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8. "I took Bell first, but kept Kamara, and got Fournette in the 3rd"
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and picked up Conner yesterday




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9. "reminds me of 2015 when Le'Veon Bell missed most of that year..."
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I quietly grabbed DeAngelo Williams and ATE!

<<<< the Tate-over, ya breaks over

  

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10. "and erybody in Charlotte was baffled...lol"
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Answer: O-line, dumbasses..



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42. "DW was a beast but often injured"
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I knew when we picked him up he had something. Now all the fans in Pittsburgh use DW as proof anyone can run behind our OL but DW was no slouch.

shut up already, damn

  

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50. "He wasnt no beast...he ran East/West behind a line that couldnt hold"
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Hit the hole DeAngelo...and make haste...save all your juking for after you get out of the backfield.


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12. "Pouncey mad cuz he shot off his mouth the other day.."
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tawbout "he will be here Wednesday", like they had some special communication. Then when everyone showed up Wednesday and Bell is rolling up another joint while sitting poolside, he looked dumb.

<<<< the Tate-over, ya breaks over

  

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13. "i can't even imagine the parties levean is having right now"
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god bless him

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14. "Imagine being one of those mad Steeler players"
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upset at the guy for wanting to get paid for killing himself and not the billionaires who won't pay him.

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15. "Imagine being a moral, care about others, rapist"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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19. "^^^"
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16. "they're mad because he's not making them money"
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linemen get paid when levean bell has 2000 total yards, not so much when some scrub rbs get half of that.

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18. "Yeah but what is MISTER ROONEY supposed to do?"
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Pay them what they're worth, too?

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21. "breh talkin about "he make 7 times what I make"..."
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should be ashamed of himself, for real.

<<<< the Tate-over, ya breaks over

  

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29. "he'll have a point if Conner runs wild tho"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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cgonz00cc
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30. "your numbers lookin kinda crooked"
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Bell's career high isnt much more than "half of that" at 1350ish, and hes never cracked 5 ypc

if the hometown cancer survivor cracks 100 on sunday, he might be trying to make money for a different group of linemen sooner than he thinks.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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31. "there's this thing called receiving"
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32. "lol yes im sure ben would just be eating sacks left and right"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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cgonz00cc
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80. "on pace for 2200 and 20 total TDs, while 1st in the division"
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oops!

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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legsdiamond
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81. "That on pace bullshit is hilarious"
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How many times does a player keep that pace?

As a Steeler fan I hope it happens but I also know we have played the Browns twice, and Atlanta. If he goes off tonight I will definitely be hype as fuck since I have him in fantasy but the remaining schedule is brutal

Panthers, Jags, Pats, Saints, Chargers...

Could be brutal. Could also be shootouts. I think yards and TD’s are up this year too. Not sure these numbers mean much until it’s done over a few years.

shut up already, damn

  

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84. "its week 10, not week 4"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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126. "If we played Cleveland and Atlanta 2 more times then sure"
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but that isn’t how this is going to play out.

I wish it would but I think we start spreading it around now that we know Bell isn’t coming back.

Last thing we need is another concussion or MCL right before the playoffs.

shut up already, damn

  

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legsdiamond
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"Like I said... Conner wasn’t going to run for 125 every game"


          

shut up already, damn

  

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36. "Huh? Cracking 100 vs the Browns isn’t out of the question"
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Ridley cracked 100 with back ups last year in our last game.

It’s consistency, received by and pass protection.

The reason Conner didn’t get more PT last year I’d because his pass protection was terrible.

shut up already, damn

  

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17. "I want to see him sit out the season"
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this is coming from a life long steeler fan
they should have not franchised him the second time
you knew what the numbers were from two years ago
when negotiations didnt go anywhere...LET HIM WALK
with or without him our defense is not good enough to win a super bowl
we could have the whole pro bowl start on offense and still loose to jacksonville or in foxboro
and the players shooting off...thats on Tomlin
fuck this season is done already

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Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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20. "they should've or still should trade him"
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22. "Browns AFC North Champs confirmed"
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Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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23. "He must be an asshole..."
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...because this is the first time we've ever seen a team shit on a guy for a holdout. Everyone holds out and it never makes noise. But the ENTIRE squad is blown.

  

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24. "has alot to do with the team culture"
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Steelers are known for blue collar, bring your lunch pal type of work ethic
AB and Lev are the first two premier position talents we have ever considered paying in our history
Mike Wallace got the same type of treatment in the '12 season when held out...except in his contract year he ripped the team apart and sucked

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Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
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When we unite we hedge amen

  

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26. "Villanueva, US army vet, was forced to apologize after"
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he came onto the field when the team had agreed not to.

It's absolutely the team culture.

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"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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25. "yeah this is odd. i'd expect more support. or at least neutral commentar..."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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27. "How do players end up siding with ownership in this case?"
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Franchise dude once...maybe not a big deal

Homie puts up the most touches in the league...and they franchise him again

FOH

Keep reminding him how disposable he is, let's see how that works out.

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33. "RE: How do players end up siding with ownership in this case?"
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I think the linemen would have been fine with Bell just telling everyone he wasn't going for it.

The issue they had was he said he would be there wednesday and he didn't show.

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34. "Fake News"
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https://mobile.twitter.com/LeVeonBell/status/1034545169100623872

He actually hasn't said anything IRT reporting

That was an ASSumption made by Pouncey

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35. "RE: Fake News"
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Even if true, that is seemingly the crux of the issue. The linemen assumed/knew/were told by Pouncey he would come in, he didn't and now they feel some type of way.




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37. "Pouncey assumed and made an ass of himself"
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plus the OL knows they look much better when Bell is back there.

Bunch of drama queens. STFU and stop feeding the media red meat.

shut up already, damn

  

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39. "and they're out here making comments about the money"
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Bell would be making twice as much Villanueva, 7X as much as foster

Bell's issue isn't even the money, it's the years

Just don't get teammates throwing him under the bus, when it's the franchise that faiLed to handle this properly

...and they could very well be in the same situation when they want to negotiate a new deal...

Very strange stance for players to take IMO.

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40. "RE: and they're out here making comments about the money"
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Doesn't surprise me that much. It's a lot of people in a locker room, and lots of people may feel some type of way in the heat of the moment.

Decastro already walked back his comment. The intersection of money and fraternity and people's individual/personal goals is a fraught one.


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28. "it's somewhat unique because he's not holding out for more $$"
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usually guys don't comment on each other's money.

But this holdout isn't about money.

  

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38. "It’s definitely about money"
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They held him hostage and gave him an outdated lowball contract (when it comes to guaranteed money).

Either he is trying to get released or he is trying to “punish” the team by missing games and saving his body from contact.

Fans say other teams are taking notes and won’t sign him to big money but they are lying to themselves. You think the Jets care if Bell misses a few games to save his body for next year?

Another speculation is weed. Not sure if he can be tested since he isn’t under contract. If this is true, maybe he is waiting to make sure his piss is clean.

shut up already, damn

  

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41. "RE: It’s definitely about money"
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>They held him hostage and gave him an outdated lowball
>contract (when it comes to guaranteed money).

It's not a lowball contract in terms of NFL running backs at all. It's just not what Bell wants, which is fair, because he wants job security, not one big payday.

>
>Either he is trying to get released or he is trying to
>“punish” the team by missing games and saving his body
>from contact.

He wants to get paid or wait till next year and get the long term deal he wants

>
>Fans say other teams are taking notes and won’t sign him to
>big money but they are lying to themselves. You think the Jets
>care if Bell misses a few games to save his body for next
>year?

They definitely do not care haha

Not sure I would sit out when there is 15 mill guaranteed on table but thats neither here not there. He should do whatever he wants.

>
>Another speculation is weed. Not sure if he can be tested
>since he isn’t under contract. If this is true, maybe he is
>waiting to make sure his piss is clean.

This seems farfetched

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43. "So...at age 26, David Johnson just got 3/39 with 30 guaranteed."
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<<<< the Tate-over, ya breaks over

  

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44. "combined with Conner's day..."
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see you at practice monday, leveon! lol

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46. "I don’t it matters how well Conner plays"
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It won’t have any impact on Bells contract next year.

shut up already, damn

  

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51. "yeah it does...it has an impact on how willing either side is to budge"
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The better Conner plays the more leverage Levean loses.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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52. "RE: budge"
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The only decision left to make is Bell's; when does he report before week 10?

That's it

The franchise tender is the offer, he signs it before week 10...that's it.

There's no room to budge because all of the deadlines have passed

Conner's performance is not a factor.

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58. "ah didn't realize that...thanks."
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>There's no room to budge because all of the deadlines have passed

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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45. "lol at comparing Johnson to Le'veon"
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Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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47. "lol @ you thinking I that's what I was doing."
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I was simply giving some perspective, fam...nothing more. Unbunch your Steelers underoos.

<<<< the Tate-over, ya breaks over

  

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48. "they are a thong...no need for unbunching"
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>I was simply giving some perspective, fam...nothing more.
>Unbunch your Steelers underoos.

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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49. "nice"
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53. "he's available..."
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24770741/steelers-now-listening-trade-offers-leveon-bell

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54. "this entire situation is silly..."
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..franchise tag is some bullshit.

pay the players or let them seek that value elsewhere.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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55. "Bradshaw says, Tomlin's fault"
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56. "Thanks Gruden."
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57. "RE: LEAVEan is smart, earl thomas mad"
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b/w PIT in last place

What was that you were saying...

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59. "Steeler fans mad as shit at Bell... but Earl Thimas"
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is exactly why he is didn’t report.

and our O looks like trash without him.

Tried to tell these fools Bell is the best player in our O but nah... Connner ran hard vs the Browns, we don’t need Bell.


shut up already, damn

  

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60. ""they offered him twice as much as the second most rb!!""
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--idiot fans that dont read

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69. "Imagine if I refused to come to work"
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Mad ass fans who try to compare their lives to NFL players

shut up already, damn

  

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70. "FUCK!! That annoys the shit outta me, man..."
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I went at 4 or 5 motherfuckers on Twitter for that after the Vontae Davis thing. "So, I'm just gonna walk out of work at lunchtime, then...since that's so cool". Dumb shit like that. Asshole...if the next batch of jalapeno poppers you drop could possibly leave you paralyzed, then by all means, walk the fuck out.

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72. "utterly fuckin MIND. BLOWING. "
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these replaceable ass mfers think they can compare their job situation with PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYERS.

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73. "and so much of the outrage is based on lies"
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He lied to his teammates so that’s why I’m mad

Huh?

I have a good 4 or 5 people who have me on ignore on a Steeler site because they refused to believe the RB market was going to be reset. Now it’s “we still wouldn’t win those games if he was here”

Niggas really believe elite talent is easy to replace because they hear people say the RB position is the easiest to replace.

shut up already, damn

  

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61. "sat in my moms suite last night at the game"
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the undercurrent of racism talking about Bell is right in line with how fans view the players all the time
the game Bell comes back might be a national security risk

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62. "will report to team during Week 7 bye, per ESPN"
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63. "1-4-1 when he steps on the field."
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<---
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64. "I’ll believe it when it happens. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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65. "Bomani: he wants to get paid for the bye"
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----
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68. "LiT!!!!"
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www.Tupreme.com

  

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71. "basically..."
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..its clear he's not taking any unnecessary risks.

i don't blame him.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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67. "praise the fantasy gawds."
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if he plays i went from having an alright team with him sitting, to a surprisingly good team w/ him still sitting, to a juggernaut

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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66. "It's bout time these NFL players smarten up"
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I don't even watch football but he is my favorite player now.

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74. "Iggles restructured Cox's contract "
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https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/eagles-fletcher-cox-reportedly-agrees-restructure-his-deal

Ajayi on IR, we're left with a healthy Smallwood at RB.

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75. "If you want to save your season you need to trade for Bell"
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Give us that second round pick bruh

shut up already, damn

  

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76. "This guy has passed on 7 million dollars on purpose"
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A day in his life will come where he’ll wish he had that 7 million

So, please, ye of the enlightened order, tell me why this is still a good idea

  

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77. "Earl Thomas is all you need to know. "
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So he risk 8 mill thus far for a chance to get 40 to 60 mill next year.

Would you risk it all for 8 mill when you will have a chance to get 40 to 60 mill next year?

shut up already, damn

  

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78. "That’s such a “maybe” scenario"
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LeVeon THINKS he can makes that. Rather, he HOPES he makes that.

Truth is, he’ll be a year older and plays the least valued position in the sport.

There’s a very real chance he’s playing himself.

  

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79. "If that was the case then the Steelers could’ve let him test FA"
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and matched an offer made by another team

The reasons they didn’t do this is because they know another team would give him a fair market deal. The Steelers offered Bell $70 mill not only guaranteed the first year.

The Gurley and DJ contracts showed how teams are paying elite RB’s in 2018. Hell, McKinnon got 12 mill and he never had more than 600 yards rushing in a season.

You are still using the 2016 contract model. That’s not how things are in 2018. Teams are throwing money at elite players and most will guarantee more than the first year.

shut up already, damn

  

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83. "it appears you are acting like the enlightened one"
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trying to put yourself in another mans shoes and judging him for his personal decision is chicken shit

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82. "Still not sure how Conner makes Bells decision a bad one. "
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Unless every team with huge cap room has a Conner type RB on their roster I still see one of them spending money on a playmaker like Bell.

All it takes is one.

shut up already, damn

  

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85. "for me at least, it casts doubt on whether Bell was all that special"
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and that one team who breaks their bank may not compete every year like yall do

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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86. "any backs out there catching 100 balls and producing that much on the gr..."
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theres a reason hes the only one ever

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89. "Gurley and Kamara are both better"
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112. "Bell has the record for most rushing yards in 2 playoff games"
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Neither has done it for a length of time like Bell.

You sound like Steeler fans who forget just how special Bell is as a player because he isn’t playing this year.

shut up already, damn

  

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87. "nah, it just further justifies the Steelers decision"
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They didn't need to pay him top dollar... and a few other teams wouldn't need to either... but you're right that at least 1 team will, because they'll expect him to be their offensive savior.

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->

  

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88. "Conner’s success confirms what most GMs already think:"
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RBs really just aren’t special and aren’t worth spending on

  

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90. "theres a caveat here, and a big one"
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Conner might ALSO be an elite back

but that just makes Bell look worse for not recognizing that before throwing down the gauntlet

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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103. "Unless every team with a huge salary cap has a Conner "
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I don’t see how his success impacts Bell

Just means the Steelers drafted a good RB and anyone who watched PITT knows Conner was a monster before the injury and cancer.

He was ACC offensive player of the year before his injury.

shut up already, damn

  

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91. "http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25237155/leveon-bell-not-expected-rep..."
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25237155/leveon-bell-not-expected-report-pittsburgh-steelers-tuesday-deadline-sources-say

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92. "RE: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25237155/leveon-bell-not-expected..."
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If he doesn't report and get ANY of this money…I don't really understand how it's a win.

You were unemployed for a year
Got older at a position where that is viewed as the cardinal sin
A younger player took your spot, performed, and now people wonder if you are a system RB
You didn't collect any of the dough


So yeah, you didn't get any more wear-and-tear but unless someone backs up a Brinks truck next year...

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

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93. "when he settles for $10M a year in Buffalo or Tampa next year..."
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...maybe he’ll finally realize just how badly he played himself

Gave up 14 Mill
Handed over all of the leverage to the team
Was usurped by a far cheaper player who was every bit as qualified as he was

The matter is in the CBA. Negotiate better there. But trying to play hardball within the current frameworks of the league and PA just isn’t a zero sum game, ESPECIALLY when you play at the least valued position in the sport.

  

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94. "I see your point but ehhh"
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>You were unemployed for a year
>Got older at a position where that is viewed as the cardinal
>sin

Technically he didn't, as "aging" in running backs is
largely about the accumulation of punishment from carries

>A younger player took your spot, performed, and now people
>wonder if you are a system RB

LOL. Nobody thinks he was a system running back. He's
still light years better than Conner by every metric.
Issue is less that than whether the Steelers need an
elite back to be a potent offense. The latter is Bell's
big issue,

>You didn't collect any of the dough

Correct

>So yeah, you didn't get any more wear-and-tear but unless
>someone backs up a Brinks truck next year...

Issue for the Steelers is that heavy duty between the
tackle backs like Conner wear out QUICK (remember when
Marion Barber and Alred Morris were "elite" power runners).

The special thing about Bell was that he's been able to put
together those numbers year after year, and does it multiple
ways.

So Bell definitely in trouble but it's still not clear

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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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97. "RE: I see your point but ehhh"
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>
>>You were unemployed for a year
>>Got older at a position where that is viewed as the cardinal
>>sin
>
>Technically he didn't, as "aging" in running backs is
>largely about the accumulation of punishment from carries
>

The value of ANY nil player, and especially a running back, is closely tied to age. Yes, accumulation of carries matters AS WELL, but not enough that this isn't an important factor. He only has so much time left to make big money, he is not a QB.


>>A younger player took your spot, performed, and now people
>>wonder if you are a system RB
>
>LOL. Nobody thinks he was a system running back. He's
>still light years better than Conner by every metric.

It's not like Bell came out of college as a future superstar. What metric?

I like Bell a lot and think he is great, but he definitely COULD be benefiting from a system. Conor's stats right now look pretty impressive for a fourth round power back…


>
>>You didn't collect any of the dough
>
>Correct
>
>>So yeah, you didn't get any more wear-and-tear but unless
>>someone backs up a Brinks truck next year...
>
>Issue for the Steelers is that heavy duty between the
>tackle backs like Conner wear out QUICK (remember when
>Marion Barber and Alred Morris were "elite" power runners).

Levon Bell came into the league as that type of back out of Michigan State. Then he lost weight and diversified his portfolio. Any reason to think Conner can't do they same?

Steelers and Bell are done anyway, so it's not really relevant to his future.

>
>The special thing about Bell was that he's been able to put
>together those numbers year after year, and does it multiple
>ways.
>
>So Bell definitely in trouble but it's still not clear
>


Bell holding out made sense to me, but not coming in for the last however many games to get your 14 mill is dumb unless you and your agent know something the rest of the league doesn't.

I like the guy, just don't see how sitting out this entire year is smart. If you were a QB or an edge rusher…I could see it, otherwise, come in for your minimum amount of games, collect the paper and dip.

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100. "This is exactly why he's sitting, though."
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>He
>only has so much time left to make big money, he is not a QB.

He wanted the long-term, big-money deal with guaranteed money, and the Steelers were giving him the 1-year franchise. If he blows out his ACL this season, that big-money deal he wants goes bye-bye.

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101. "RE: This is exactly why he's sitting, though."
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>
>>He
>>only has so much time left to make big money, he is not a
>QB.
>
>He wanted the long-term, big-money deal with guaranteed money,
>and the Steelers were giving him the 1-year franchise. If he
>blows out his ACL this season, that big-money deal he wants
>goes bye-bye.

Yes, but I would say come get your $14 mill for 6 regular season games, where you will be platooning with the new starter.

That's a great risk-reward

If he waits till next year and gets that enormous guaranteed deal, then cool. Any deal where the guaranteed money is not major…I think he fucked up not getting this guaranteed money for 6 games.

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105. "He wouldn’t get the whole 14 mill. It would be 6 mill"
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and if you aren’t going to play for 14 mill due to the risk why the fuck would you play for 6 mill?

Originally I think everyone believed he had to report to get credit but his agent found a loophole.

Only way this is a bad decision is if no one offers him a deal. If I’m another GM with cap room I damn sure would prefer he sits out a whole year before he signs a deal with me. I wouldn’t be surprised if a GM told them about the loop hole.

shut up already, damn

  

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95. "hes playing himself"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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102. "RE: hes playing himself"
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I actually really hate that it ended like this. I thought it was a smart move, until now.


This is like when you cheer for a player negotiating his own contract, then you see the contract he negotiated and it's a disaster waiting to happen.

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106. "We haven’t seen the contract yet"
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If he gets no offers or a terrible offer then yeah.. he played himself.

shut up already, damn

  

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96. "LOL...people really be on the grind...searchin..."
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https://twitter.com/LeVeonBell/status/301812139256061952

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98. "Internet stays undefeated "
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99. ""smart""
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lolz

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104. "Bell was going to be a year older whether he played or not"
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He left 14.5 mill on the table but after Earl Thomas and Dez Bryant you see why he made his decision. It’s short money vs long money. Now sure, he could’ve played, stayed relatively healthy and still got a huge contract but look at his history of injuries and his high touch count.

As long as he gets more than 2 years guaranteed he made the right move IMO.

shut up already, damn

  

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107. "RE: Bell was going to be a year older whether he played or not"
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If the guaranteed money is less than 30-40 mill, he fucked up.

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108. "He is in real danger of fucking it up for himself"
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Sure someone will probably pay him and in the end be fine.

But this went from smart and pro players having more power to just wanting to not give in at all.

At some point how it all played out and ended is going to hurt him. Guaranteed money wise, jersey sales, endorsements all of it adds up.

He wasn't creating a brand for himself like TO while making people mad, he was just doing nothing.

  

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110. "You don’t get a larger cut if you sell more jerseys. "
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So it doesn’t matter how many jerseys you sell vs the next guy.

All the rest of that stuff is just fans being mad he didn’t bend over for the owners. If he gets a decent contract with more guaranteed money it’s a win for his camp.

shut up already, damn

  

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109. "At least Earl Thomas ultimately came back so he COULD get paid "
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and while having not played in two months, Earl Thomas is still being paid now. Bell isn’t proving a point and, worse yet, isn’t being paid either.

  

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111. "So if Earl Thomas never plays again"
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or gets a bunk deal due to injury you think it’s smarter than sitting out a year, being healthy and getting a huge FA contract?

Y’all thinking short money.

shut up already, damn

  

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114. "Passing up that much money on purpose is rarely, if ever, a good idea"
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If you’re unhappy with your deal, that’s on your agent and on the people you’ve trusted to negotiate the CBA. In general, few NFL players have a sense of just how undervalued they are. Most are just happy to have jobs, and that there’s so many players doesn’t help their cause. Negotiate better deals, and hold your ground as a group. It’s a team sport, so mobilize and defend as a team.

Individually speaking, purposefully passing up on millions when you have children and bills is just foolhardy. Dangerous even. Earl Thomas came back because he knew he ultimately couldn’t afford to stay home. Brutal way for his story to end, but he had to.

  

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115. "RE: Passing up that much money on purpose is rarely, if ever, a good ide..."
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I think he should have reported before the deadline, taken the 7 mill for less than half a season and kept it pushing.

This approach is all well and good but if the guaranteed money is less than ridiculous, it won't be much of a victory.


Also…if you are skipping the season, just say so. Why even have this long drawn out saga which does nothing for you from a public relations standpoint.

Just say "I don't want to play under a Franchise tag, I want to secure my future. I'll see everyone next year" and you would probably have a PR victory instead of this, whatever it is.

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117. "Bell warned the team he could sit out this year if they tagged him again..."
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He was funny style on twitter but for he most part he held his ground and it was other players talking for him and making predictions.

I honestly think he was going to report week 1 but then the Gurley deal happened. Proved he was right about the RB market being reset.

Then I truly believe Earl Thomas made him think twice

Lastly I think his agent found a loophole where he didn’t have to play at all and could be a transition tag next year do they changed their mind.

It’s been 6 years and he hasn’t been able to test the market to see his true value. I’m not mad at him even tho I’m a Steeler fan.

shut up already, damn

  

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118. "yep...dude said he was prepared to miss the entire season or retire"
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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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120. "RE: Bell warned the team he could sit out this year if they tagged him a..."
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>He was funny style on twitter but for he most part he held
>his ground and it was other players talking for him and making
>predictions.
>
>I honestly think he was going to report week 1 but then the
>Gurley deal happened. Proved he was right about the RB market
>being reset.
>
>Then I truly believe Earl Thomas made him think twice
>
>Lastly I think his agent found a loophole where he didn’t
>have to play at all and could be a transition tag next year do
>they changed their mind.
>
>It’s been 6 years and he hasn’t been able to test the
>market to see his true value. I’m not mad at him even tho
>I’m a Steeler fan.
>

None of this, even if true, makes the way he handled the PR aspect particularly smart.

It's really a lost opportunity no matter how you look at it. He either was makign it up as he went along or had an unimpressive plan.

Whether missing out on 14.5 mill guaranteed was smart or not, we will have to see. Right now, it looks bad. I do think he is a great player and would love him on the Bears (he would eat big-time in Nagy system) but I wouldn't want my team giving him 17 mill a year with big guaranteed money.

And he needs a blockbuster deal in terms of guarantees to make this shutdown worth it.


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122. "He really doesn’t need a blockbuster deal. Just guaranteed years"
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So if he gets 4 years 60 mill I think it’s a win for him.

He took a year off but that’s a year of safety so he could test the market.

Sure, he may have made it healthy but we were giving him 400 touches a year. You know damn well we were going to run him ragged if this was his last year in Pittsburgh.

He isn’t a QB or a Centerr who can play until he is 40. Dude has 3 to 5 tears for one big contract. It wasn’t worth the risk in his eyes... I don’t blame him.

I agree on the PR but these new dudes can’t stay off Twitter

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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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127. "RE: He really doesn’t need a blockbuster deal. Just guaranteed years"
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I said "a blockbuster deal in terms of guaranteed money" so that's the same thing

>So if he gets 4 years 60 mill I think it’s a win for him.

Then you didn't say how much guaranteed in your example, so this example tells us nothing.

>
>He took a year off but that’s a year of safety so he could
>test the market.
>
>Sure, he may have made it healthy but we were giving him 400
>touches a year. You know damn well we were going to run him
>ragged if this was his last year in Pittsburgh.

Just play 7 games of platoon duty then…or don't.


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128. "Lmao. You don’t get paid 6 mill and then tell them how much you will p..."
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plus the Steelers will probably make the playoffs and you get paid peanuts in the playoffs.

shut up already, damn

  

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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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144. "RE: Lmao. You don’t get paid 6 mill and then tell them how much you wi..."
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>plus the Steelers will probably make the playoffs and you get
>paid peanuts in the playoffs.


Until you say a guaranteed amount of money that makes this a good move, I don't know what to tell you.

Anything less than 30 mill guaranteed is a failure IMO

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145. "I agree. I think he gets 30 to 40 guaranteed "
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But I wouldn’t be the least surprised if he got 50 to 60 from a terrible organization trying to hype up the fans.

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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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147. "RE: I agree. I think he gets 30 to 40 guaranteed "
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Okay if he gets 30, I'll say solid return on gamble but nothing to write home about. Could have gotten that 14.5 and then still gotten 30.

If he gets 40, I'll say it's a solid win

50-60 is a pipe dream


I hope he gets 30

I doubt he gets 40 but it could happen.

And I cannot see 50-60 but there is always one team…


That said…I could see him ending up with 25 guaranteed, easily and that is an L


I definitely wouldn't want my team giving him 40 guaranteed, or 30, for that matter.

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116. "Earl Thomas was in the last year of a 4 year/40 mill contract"
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I doubt this has anything to do with not being able to afford to stay away.

Mack held out and held his ground and got a huge deal.

It’s not about the CBA. It’s about how you choose to handle/gamble on yourself.

shut up already, damn

  

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121. "it has EVERYTHING to do with the CBA"
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The franchise tag is BULLSHIT, it almost exclusively benefits the team. While a player may make more money in the short term playing on a franchise tag, he puts an entire year’s worth of wear and tear on his body and hits free agency a year later than he is technically slated to, typically hindering his earning potential for his next contract. More mileage on his body when he hits FA = less long-term impact a guy can have on his next team, so thinks most GMs/owners.(Sure, there’s exceptions like Kirk Cousins)

That franchise tags exist at all and aren’t vulnerable to something like, say, arbitration is ENTIRELY a failure of the NFLPA. The player’s association failed Le’Veon Bell, like it failed Earl Thomas and failed Aaron Donald for a period of time as well. Every one of these guys was in a “show up or else” position as a result of this wildly one-sided apparatus. Both things can be true: Leveon Bell can think he deserves more money, and Le’Veon Bell can also be committing an egregious error by passing up 14 million dollars guaranteed when there’s ample reason to believe he’ll never see a payday like that again.

The NBA players have their shit together because they realized long ago that they hold all the power, and they will actually stand their ground when threatened. But there’s too many football players, they’re not as smart as basketball players, and there’s disproportionate perceived values from position-to-position (Ben Roethlisberger is, what, 20x more important than Le’Veon?)

Get rid of the franchise tag
Tier positions and place pay minimums not only by longevity but by position as well
And stand your ground until ownership caves or counters with an offer that pays as well as players deserve to be paid

  

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123. "I was talking about Earl Thomas’ situation. "
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As far as Bell and the tag goes. Sure, it’s a shitty deal but it’s not like Bell can boycott the CBA.

He is doing what he can within the rules of the CBA when it comes to the tag. Seems like most folks can’t handle a player walking away for a year or chucking the duece.

What’s crazy is folks have more respect for Earl Thomas for playing and getting hurt which could awriously impact his earnings for the rest of his career but have issues with Bell not playing for 1 year before trying to maximize his earnings.

shut up already, damn

  

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113. "How much does he get next season?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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148. "I think he gets 60"
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Folks keep talking like he lost but it’s not over until FA in March. We shall see if he made the right decision.

He is playing the long game.

shut up already, damn

  

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119. "the way the NFL works he'll probably end up with less than he wouldve"
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gotten this year. you know the collusion is imminent to teach him a lesson.

plus no matter how good he is, running backs grow on trees as we've seen with Connor. i wouldnt want my team to make him a major FA signing.

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125. "the NFL is all bout offense right now"
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You wouldn’t want this in your backfield?


https://youtu.be/-fcYQpoBt9o

Some of y’all sound like those dumb ass white NFL fans.. smh.

shut up already, damn

  

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130. "at the price he wants + previous workload? i'll take my chances in the d..."
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146. "Draft is a crap shoot"
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If I’m trying to get instant offense and I have a ton of cap room I’m going with a known quantity.



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124. "there's no "good way" to play this current CBA."
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the money in football is so skewed against the players that anyone's best efforts would be derailed.

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140. "yeah, he lost."
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sitting out this year isnt adding $15M to whatever contract he would have signed over the summer had he played

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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129. "I think Bell has a handshake deal already with a team"
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My prediction is the Jets

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133. "Would you leave the Steelers for the Jets? "
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A well run organization for well...the Jets?


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134. "if you're dumb and getting bad advice, sure. And I think that's it. "
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You can even tell by Bell's sophomoric tweets and how he hasn't ever really stated his case - someone got this idea in his head and he thought he was clever and they ran with it. Never mind the money, this is just an epic PR fail too - that they never called ESPN for an interview or published a detailed press release on his Twitter is baffling.

Even the agent has found out certain facets of the tags that he didn't know about. He and Bell are in over their heads on this one and now just have to commit to their bit. I actually feel bad for Leveon Bell - he has no idea how grossly he was taken advantage of here and just how much money he gave up. A day will come where he'll wish he had that money. That's a guarantee as firm as the guaranteed money he was set to make this year.



  

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139. "This is 100% wrong"
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You sound like a bitter Steeler fan or Steeler FO guy.. or maybe you had him in fantasy.

If anything Bells agent found a loophole where he realized he didn’t have to play at all.

From the jump Bell said he would sit out the year or retire. The problem is everyone else kept guessing wrong and kept blaming Bell for not telling them his plans ever week. He didn’t have to. He wasn’t under contract. Fuck em was his motto.

So if he signs a huge deal next year what did he do wrong? He didn’t play and risk injury.

If he doesn’t sign and retires... well, he already said it was an option. He has millions and his health. What’s the issue?

Only thing he did wrong was doing it his way and not having a PR or ESPN run which would have made y’all even more furious on some Bron The Decision bullshit. Y’all mad at him because he didn’t do it the white way.

shut up already, damn

  

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141. "??? "
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man, he gave up 14 million dollars on purpose. I'm not "mad", I actually feel bad for the dude. This agent got in his ear and he ran with it. If someone gives him $15M next year then god bless him, but he's gonna be hard pressed to get that.

  

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142. "Feel sorry for Earl Thomas and Dez Bryant. "
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You are talking like the 2019 FA deadline for the spring just ended

As long as there are bad teams with tons of cap room and half empty stadiums Bells chances of making big money are pretty high.

He doesn’t even need 15 mil per year. I think he would be fine with 3 to 4 years at 12 to 15 as long as they are guaranteed.

Dude has been injured 3 out of 6 years. Another 400 touches on a one year contract is a huge risk when you are trying to get to FA.

shut up already, damn

  

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156. "what agent"
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would leave 10% of 14 mil on the table

theres no way his agent was behind this move.

steelers franchised him - what 3 years in a row? fuck that.

he did exactly what he wanted. he held them hostage and made em mad. i bet they dont tag him next year.

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158. "Agent gets a percentage of the whole contract up front. "
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No agent is telling their player to turn down 70 mill.

I actually think it’s 3% but still.. that’s major money for an NFL agent.

The real dude who got in his ear was Kirk Cousins.

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137. "If the Jets will give me the long term deal w/ the guarantees I want?"
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That’s a no brainer.

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143. "Folks acting like Jets money ain’t real money"
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The fuck I care if the organization is trash. It’s NYC. Bell would get all types of deals he would never get with the Steelers outside of football.

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138. "I would leave any team for a better deal "
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Especially if they have held me hostage for the last 2 tears and prevented me from FA.

I know and like to talk about how great an organization is and how special it is to be a part of a great one but they drafted Conner and gave Bell 1 year of guaranteed money. You think they were going to give him all 70 mill? Hell no

Also, the Steelers will welcome Bell back once he retires. We brought back Plaxico, Woodson, Faneca, etc who al left for more money.

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136. "i'd bet Packers"
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161. "Packers are too cheap. They let Jordy Nelson go"
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They don’t pay for skill positions unless it’s the QB or a white LB

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131. "lmao..."
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https://twitter.com/AndrewSiciliano/status/1062724519029141505

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132. "He cant even be funny right. "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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135. "lock: he was worried "Who Dis" could've been perceived as racist"
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so he'd rather be over-safe and lame then risk backlash

  

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149. "Bell tweets he is a Jets fan"
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https://twitter.com/leveonbell/status/56772240771002368?s=21

Man, I been arguing with Steeler fans all year. He prolly has a handshake with the Jets and they damn sure don’t care about him not playing and risking injury.

It’s all rumors but I’m making my prediction.

shut up already, damn

  

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150. "Tried to tell Steeler fans Conner ain’t no Bell "
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Dude has ball security issues and his hands are a lil suspect in the passing game.

On pace for how many yards and TD’s?

Hopefully he bounces back but don’t dare put him in the elite RB debate because he runs hard over bad defenses.

shut up already, damn

  

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Dstl1
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151. "he's a good RB...real good..."
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Bell is special...and that's ok. Pittsburgh doesn't even need a Bell level RB to win...they just need NOT.this.Ben.

<<<< the Tate-over, ya breaks over

  

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152. "Bell is Ben's security blanket, when you take that away"
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You get bad Ben in moments like yesterday.

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153. "Bell is better than Conner, but a bad pick can just be a bad pick "
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Steelers went on the road and played a good defense in altitude and lost close. I think record-wise they’re right where they’d be if Bell were there instead of Conner.

  

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legsdiamond
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154. "Nah... we win that Cleveland game"
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Conner fumbled inside our 5 yard line vs Cleveland.

We wouldn’t pass as much with Bell. Less passes, less chances for INTs

shut up already, damn

  

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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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Mon Nov-26-18 06:14 PM

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155. "RE: he's a good RB...real good..."
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I don't get why people can't understand that YES Bell is the better player and can do more thing better for the Steelers, but they don't need him to be a great offense.

For the Steelers, they should have just traded Bell a while ago.

Reminds me of when Sterling Sharpe-at that time arguably the best WR in the league- got hurt…and then the Packers kept getting better.

It wasn't cause Sharpe was gone, it was because their arrow was pointed up in so many areas, and the schemes were so productive, it turned out that they didn't really need him.


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legsdiamond
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157. "The problem is Ben isn’t that dude. "
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His INT ratio is horrible this year.

Haley was rigid and Ben didn’t like him but he knew how to protect Ben from himself.

and you need a RB like Bell who can protect Ben from himself. See, games like the KC playoff game last year or the Buffalo away game are prime examples why Bell makes a huge difference. Ben has been trash on the road these last few years.

With Conner you need the OL to block perfectly on most plays, with Bell it’s almost a guarantee the first dude is going to miss and sometimes it’s the first 2 to 4.

shut up already, damn

  

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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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159. "RE: The problem is Ben isn’t that dude. "
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If you are the Steelers, Bell is an expensive luxury that you should have decided on and cashed out IMO.

There is a salary cap, you cannot pay everyone long-term. If you think they should be paying Bell instead of Ben, so be it, but that was never going to be the case.

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160. "We definitely screwed this up"
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We tried but we couldn’t keep everyone. Just sucks to lose your best weapon.

If it was me I would’ve moved Ben and paid Bell. His best days are behind him IMO.

shut up already, damn

  

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COOLEHMAGAZINE
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162. "RE: We definitely screwed this up"
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That would never happen, for obvious reasons.


I thought I liked Leveon's game but some of you guys in here talk about him like he is Marshall Faulk.

He more like Marcus Allen to me, in terms of his talent, smarts and place in the game. A great player, but not so transcendent a running back that you move your HOF QB to accommodate him.

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