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"Trouble in Columbus?"


          

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Yo I think he's a goner, lol smh
Aug 01st 2018
1
i think you nailed it.
Aug 01st 2018
3
I’m absolutely shocked they put him on paid administrative leave
Aug 01st 2018
5
but hey a shitty wr coach was worth it!
Aug 01st 2018
6
      urban's fault?
Aug 01st 2018
8
      He shld have fired him in 09 but coaching is a family biz and Earle Bruc...
Aug 02nd 2018
10
      yes he should've been fired in 09
Aug 02nd 2018
13
           I just read about the 2009 incident
Aug 02nd 2018
46
                because he's earle bruce's grandson
Aug 03rd 2018
56
      Spencer Hall: "Urban Meyer and the Disease of Unearned Loyalty"
Aug 24th 2018
133
           RE: Spencer HallUrban Meyer and the Disease of Unearned Loyalty&...
Aug 26th 2018
134
                *shrug*
Aug 26th 2018
136
                oh and...
Aug 27th 2018
139
                     exactly you aint got shit to say
Aug 27th 2018
140
                          theres nothing TO say.
Aug 27th 2018
142
                               re:
Aug 29th 2018
145
talk about having receipts....wow
Aug 01st 2018
2
Nike called it
Aug 01st 2018
4
lol
Aug 02nd 2018
21
If Tressel got gone for tats, this is worse
Aug 01st 2018
7
But Dantonio and Izzo stay employed after Larry Nassar?
Aug 02nd 2018
9
because it's MSU and nobody gives a shit
Aug 02nd 2018
12
Golf clap
Aug 02nd 2018
18
nobody here had much to say over the baylor calamity
Aug 02nd 2018
32
      I am not sure what youre implying there
Aug 02nd 2018
33
           i know. i wasnt suggesting that you were being combative.
Aug 02nd 2018
35
                I hope most would get that
Aug 02nd 2018
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                     i dont think most people have that level of self awareness
Aug 03rd 2018
58
                     eh thats relative
Aug 03rd 2018
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RE: because at MSU nobody gives a shit --- fixed that for you
Aug 02nd 2018
23
Nassar State, the college that gave us all Donkeylips...
Aug 02nd 2018
19
do you mean the ESPN OTL report?
Aug 02nd 2018
22
      Right - they aren't connected to Nassar at all, while Urban was
Aug 02nd 2018
28
Tressel was a NCAA violation, this isn’t.
Aug 02nd 2018
11
      So you want to parse it that way? Cool
Aug 02nd 2018
14
           it worked for UNC *shrug*
Aug 02nd 2018
15
           I’m not parsing anything. It’s an important distinction.
Aug 02nd 2018
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           it's the reality and it probably should be
Aug 02nd 2018
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                i wouldnt even mind the ncaa having some sort of morality clause
Aug 02nd 2018
38
                Tressel went down to protect the single reason for the NCAA’s existenc...
Aug 02nd 2018
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                The whole NCAA is set up to legislate morality
Aug 03rd 2018
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                     nope. It’s set up to protect the amateurism con.
Aug 03rd 2018
55
Things are going well in Ohio these days
Aug 02nd 2018
20
so is dude saying his wife aint mention this in 3 whole years??
Aug 02nd 2018
24
Grandson of former OSU HC
Aug 02nd 2018
25
no
Aug 02nd 2018
31
      Allegedly*
Aug 02nd 2018
43
           the lying is fact, so who GAF
Aug 02nd 2018
44
           2009, charges dropped. 2015, charges not filed
Aug 02nd 2018
45
                oh
Aug 02nd 2018
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           RE: Allegedly*
Aug 02nd 2018
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                Meyer reported the 2009 incident
Aug 02nd 2018
51
                     RE: Meyer reported the 2009 incident
Aug 02nd 2018
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                          The system failed her.
Aug 03rd 2018
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                               seems like we're back to presuming guilt on zach smith
Aug 03rd 2018
57
guess Notre Dame wont ever be happening now.
Aug 02nd 2018
26
Well murder is ok there......
Aug 02nd 2018
27
Yep, Brian Kelley should be in prison
Aug 02nd 2018
30
      seriously?
Aug 02nd 2018
34
           This is about starting Zaire right?
Aug 02nd 2018
36
           lmao
Aug 02nd 2018
39
           Y.E. Yang fist pump
Aug 02nd 2018
49
           I would put it in the category of negligent homicide or whatever equival...
Aug 02nd 2018
41
right, because Brian Kelley runs a squeaky clean program
Aug 02nd 2018
29
It was one of the options while he was at Uf. Lol at him leaving this jo...
Aug 02nd 2018
40
it WAS always an option.
Aug 02nd 2018
42
i'll take him whenever we bounce Fedora
Aug 03rd 2018
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      idk how yall even have a football program
Aug 03rd 2018
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           RE: idk how yall even have an athletic department*
Aug 18th 2018
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                back up the salt trucks.
Aug 23rd 2018
102
                     *shrug* UNC doesnt have anything i want
Aug 23rd 2018
105
                          I'm sure you want 1993.
Aug 23rd 2018
119
He’s gotta go.
Aug 03rd 2018
60
didnt Urb coach A Hern???
Aug 03rd 2018
62
worse...
Aug 04th 2018
65
This POS wr coach needs to stfu and stay off of tv he’s not helping...
Aug 03rd 2018
64
Zone 6 was always chirping, arrogant, and entitled on Twitter
Aug 04th 2018
66
how do you feel he's hurting the situation?
Aug 04th 2018
67
      Still wondering why he needed to stfu other than to appease you
Aug 20th 2018
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I admit it (c)
Aug 04th 2018
68
why is the preseason cfb post hidden?
Aug 15th 2018
69
yeah...
Aug 15th 2018
70
      i searched it and started a schedule prediction thread for GT
Aug 15th 2018
71
Man this dude was off the chain...
Aug 17th 2018
72
award winning journalism right here
Aug 17th 2018
73
Word tonight is a suspension with time served
Aug 20th 2018
75
Wait, you’re actually comparing the 2 incidents? Are you for real?
Aug 20th 2018
76
shut up
Aug 20th 2018
78
um
Aug 20th 2018
79
and she was a minor
Aug 21st 2018
80
      and law enforcement wasnt involved
Aug 21st 2018
81
Shells...no
Aug 21st 2018
82
responses tell me that women<<<<kids. good to know.
Aug 21st 2018
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      Just STFU
Aug 21st 2018
84
      lmfao log off fam.
Aug 21st 2018
85
      Jesus dude... you're smarter than this
Aug 23rd 2018
104
3 game suspension, without dinero
Aug 22nd 2018
86
this world we live in is wild
Aug 22nd 2018
87
Zero. Difference.
Aug 22nd 2018
88
Back for Penn State? BWAHAHAHAHA
Aug 22nd 2018
89
What a bunch of cowards
Aug 23rd 2018
97
shit's weak
Aug 23rd 2018
99
wow, i didnt think TOSU had the balls to suspend him for any games
Aug 22nd 2018
90
RE: wow, i didnt think TOSU had the balls to suspend him for any games
Aug 22nd 2018
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im still not over how he and the Tat 5 went out....nm
Aug 22nd 2018
93
drake or urban...one of them will push the other out.
Aug 22nd 2018
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hes going to Notre Dame after Kelly gets canned
Aug 23rd 2018
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      man he's not gonna go coach ND...lol.
Aug 23rd 2018
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           im just sayin, id be surprised if he retires as a Buckeye HC
Aug 23rd 2018
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           if Urban didn't want to stay at OSU he wouldnt have accepted
Aug 23rd 2018
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           "Blame it on a black man, what the heck!"(c)Mark Wahlberg
Aug 23rd 2018
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                Where is that quote from?
Aug 23rd 2018
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                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2q_b5rhvo
Aug 23rd 2018
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                     I just realized that was his brother Donnie giving the girl drugs...
Aug 23rd 2018
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                          Wait, you guys know Marky Mark lyrics off the rip?
Aug 23rd 2018
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                          no, but I definitely used to see this video, plenty...
Aug 24th 2018
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                          If you’re black and you were of age during that era you know that...
Aug 24th 2018
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                               Oh, I'm aware of the incidents. Just associating them with...
Aug 24th 2018
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                          LULZ...he gave her a lot of drugs, too...damn
Aug 24th 2018
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                if you're gonna reply to my posts at least answer the ones
Aug 23rd 2018
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                     RE: if you're gonna reply to my posts at least answer the ones
Aug 23rd 2018
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                          i never disagreed with that...but not really relevant to my point.
Aug 23rd 2018
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                               hmmm...according to the report findings gene smith did have contact
Aug 23rd 2018
124
i get why Urbz didnt get bounced
Aug 23rd 2018
107
      let's be real...
Aug 23rd 2018
112
I'm embarrassed to be an Ohio State fan right now.
Aug 23rd 2018
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wow
Aug 23rd 2018
101
      They'll all get over it if/when they make the CFP
Aug 23rd 2018
118
           Not quite....
Aug 23rd 2018
123
Football & money >>> ethics
Aug 23rd 2018
103
He's on medication that makes him forget about domestic violence
Aug 23rd 2018
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not to mention both of their contracts state that any allegations of any...
Aug 23rd 2018
111
lmao yea the memory loss pill excuse is a new one...smh so bad
Aug 23rd 2018
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RE: lmao yea the memory loss pill excuse is a new one...smh so bad
Aug 23rd 2018
120
feigning medical conditions is an Urb specialty
Aug 23rd 2018
122
      not just you lol
Aug 24th 2018
128
      LOL this will never not be funny to me
Aug 24th 2018
129
      ...no comment.
Aug 24th 2018
130
      dude should never let the word "integrity" come out of his mouth
Aug 27th 2018
138
      devoted family man...unless there is something better to do
Aug 30th 2018
147
lol
Aug 24th 2018
131
hmm what fanbase is responsible for this train of thought?
Aug 26th 2018
135
      "Pedo State" users live in glass houses, homeboy
Aug 27th 2018
137
           no. that quote has nothing to do with PSU but good luck w/your paranoia.
Aug 27th 2018
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                He's lost his marbles... Don't bother
Aug 29th 2018
144
*lights candle in hopes that Urb may conquer his memory loss struggles*
Aug 28th 2018
143
Oh shit! Bomb sighting!
Aug 30th 2018
146
hey there!
Aug 30th 2018
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guru0509
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1. "Yo I think he's a goner, lol smh "
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Wed Aug-01-18 06:24 PM by guru0509

  

          

Quite hypocritical of him if it's true considering he kicked players off the team for the domestic violence issues and then preached a whole lot about it

https://twitter.com/i/moments/1024781243651579904


>http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41025876-4


Oh well, time to turn the page. He honestly should have won a title in 2015 too. That was an epic choke job by him... And he mishandled Braxtons final year bigly

And he should have told cardale to go pro.. What a disaster that two QB bullshit was

I wonder who the new guy will be

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3. "i think you nailed it."
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i mean, other than coaching he's supposed to be a role model and teacher for his players, so it looks real bad to be harboring (i use that loosely) an abuser while telling his kids they did wrong for the same thing and punishing them for it (albeit deservedly, i assume, as i don't know the specific incidences regarding players).

just that bit of hypocrisy might cost him.

  

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5. "I’m absolutely shocked they put him on paid administrative leave"
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That’s the thing they put you on when they want to fire you right now but have to go through the legal steps. When this first broke I thought there was no way he gets fired

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6. "but hey a shitty wr coach was worth it!"
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smh

not sure why the 2015 incident is such a big deal when it's well documented that urban had knowledge of the 2009 allegation.

  

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8. "urban's fault?"
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10. "He shld have fired him in 09 but coaching is a family biz and Earle Bruc..."
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>smh
>
>not sure why the 2015 incident is such a big deal when it's
>well documented that urban had knowledge of the 2009
>allegation.

Still can't believe this is how it ends lol wow

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13. "yes he should've been fired in 09"
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Thu Aug-02-18 06:44 AM by 3xKrazy

          

he was a worthless graduate assistant at the time and anybody else would've been shown the door.

but why no outrage at the 09 incident at media days last week? whether or not meyer knew of the '15 incident seems kinda irrelevant since there was already a documented past. meyer obviously knew they had a toxic home life. either it was in the hands of the authorities or it wasn't. as far as i know it was.

  

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46. "I just read about the 2009 incident "
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It reads like a Lifetime movie. This dude came home drunk with Urban's then secretary. He then tried to convince his pregnant wife to let the secretary sleepover for the night. His wife says no and then SHE drives the secretary home. She returns home and this dude throws her against a wall....all on their first anniversary night!!!

I agree a bigger deal should have been made and he should have been fired. I wonder why Meyer hired this dude a second time?


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56. "because he's earle bruce's grandson"
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> I wonder why Meyer hired this dude a second time?

and urban clearly has a blind spot when it comes to blind loyalty

  

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133. "Spencer Hall: "Urban Meyer and the Disease of Unearned Loyalty""
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https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/8/23/17772912/urban-meyer-zach-smith-ohio-state

One of the most powerful coaches in sports protected an assistant overrun with red flags. Why?


For years, Urban Meyer kept an alleged domestic abuser on his coaching staff. There was a press conference on Wednesday night in Columbus about that, Ohio State’s investigation, and how Meyer and athletic director Gene Smith will serve short suspensions for their leadership failures. Someone asked Meyer if being away from football had been hard on him personally. We’re glad someone is thinking about Meyer’s feelings in this trying time.

Why? Why keep that staffer who also had so many performance issues, now public? The staffer missed recruiting visits and check-ins — unbelievable at a football program anywhere, much less at Ohio State. The report mentions the staffer’s history of “promiscuous and embarrassing sexual behavior, drug abuse, truancy, dishonesty, financial irresponsibility, a possible NCAA violation, and a lengthy police investigation into allegations of criminal domestic violence and cyber crimes.” The university-commissioned report concludes that despite this, Meyer never wrote Zach Smith up or put him on a performance improvement plan, and instituted “no disciplinary action until July 23, 2018.”

During that press conference on Wednesday, no one asked why, with all the resources at his disposal, did Meyer protect that staffer at all? Why risk this — a situation in which many believe Meyer should be fired, an ugly airing of Ohio State’s business, and a presser performance by Meyer that arguably only made his school look worse — for an underperforming wide receivers coach? What made him worth protecting at all?

In Meyer’s paraphrased words, the staffer was kept on “because Zach was Earle Bruce’s grandson and Bruce had been a close mentor to Meyer.” Not because he was effective, brilliant, giving, an asset to morale, or hard-working. Meyer admitted he did not fire the staffer because of a personal connection.

That connection and its power did not, by the way, extend to the staffer’s wife. Per the report, Meyer didn’t believe Courtney Smith’s account of abuse in 2009. He was skeptical of her account in 2015. The staffer, meanwhile, continued to receive a generous salary, benefits, and the benefit of the doubt.

Meyer granted him that because he felt like he owed his mentor something. Bruce was fired at Ohio State after the 1987 season, but not before helping a young graduate assistant named Meyer. (Later, Bruce would coach at Colorado State, where players alleged Bruce had abused them, and in one player’s case, hit him with a closed fist during practice.)

When Meyer had no choice but to act, he had few good answers about how it got to this point. Wednesday featured no fewer than four different excuses for Meyer’s behavior. That list included medication that gives Meyer “memory issues.” It included the loyalty argument. It included a lack of verifiable information making any action whatsoever difficult. Most damning, it included Meyer admitting that he did not give any credence to a woman’s claims that she was abused, then kept the staffer around despite all the other red flags.

Meyer went to all those lengths because of a tradition of men getting credit simply for being born in a certain arrangement to other men. (Note: not women, who aren’t extended the same instant credit.) The staffer got a bizarre form of power he’d never earned from anyone. He then rode it until the reality of who he was exceeded that fantasy of loyalty.

A capital-letters Leader of Men should demand accountability from his peers on a universal standard — not a standard that depends on financial status, for example. Ohio State is clearly not there yet, because no one who earns less than $400,000 a year could sign off on a description of themselves as “not deliberately lying” without being laughed off the stage. The rich get different laws in this country already, but 2018 has a new benefit: they get to use a different language, too.

Those men get allowances because a lot of the time when someone says “loyalty” or “I wanted to believe the best,” what they mean is that they want the questioner to stop. What Meyer wanted to happen at Big Ten Media Days, when he accidentally lied about the staffer’s situation, was for reporters to believe he had it handled. Because he was in charge.

In a club of men, Meyer acted on club rules. Those
rules apply to men only, and then only men roped off from other men by circles of influence. Those circles in coaching get pretty exclusive quickly. No case for easing the rules could be less compelling than the Ohio State staffer in question. Yet the second most powerful man in his profession risked it all for that staffer, made allowances he made for no one else, and protected him to the point of provoking a public trial of his own character.

Why? Because he was a man with a connection to another man, and that system of connections mattered more than the entire world outside it. It was worth Courtney Smith’s well-being and the horrible message it sent women at Ohio State and beyond. It was worth reminding anyone outside the bubble of influence that a job in college athletics goes first to the connected, and that the connected have different, easier rules.

For years, Urban Meyer kept an alleged domestic abuser on his coaching staff. Whatever happens — whatever Meyer might have said at the press conference, whatever happens during the suspension, whatever trivial details of the team’s performance might seem important — that doesn’t change and can’t be forgotten. It will be, but someone needs to keep saying it anyway.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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134. "RE: Spencer HallUrban Meyer and the Disease of Unearned Loyalty&amp;amp;..."
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>For years, Urban Meyer kept an alleged domestic abuser on his coaching staff. Whatever >happens — whatever Meyer might have said at the press conference, whatever happens during >the suspension, whatever trivial details of the team’s performance might seem important — >that doesn’t change and can’t be forgotten. It will be, but someone needs to keep saying it >anyway.


Meyer got suspended for keeping a buffoon/shitty coach on his staff and that's really all that needs remembering. Meyer and the university (somehow every other administrator at OSU bares no responsibilty except Meyer...wonder why that is? because they have no impact on the football program?) followed protocol in regards to the DV allegations and were unmoved by the evidence presented, the credibility of the accuser, and the subsequent lack of police action. Kind of tricky to fire an employee over unproven accusations. But i know these facts dont create award winning clickbait.

On a side note, it's really interesting how much the zach smith story has drawn your ire and upped your post count. From the guy who basically laughed off mich knowingly playing a rapist kicker as well as allegations that the team captain intimidated the victim. You, who spent years espousing the virtues of 'good guy' dick rod and taylor lewan and then don't say shit when they're exposed for the pieces of shit that they are. Any posts of yours in the multitude of baylor threads we had on here? nope. but don't worry, not many people commented on those threads either. That moral compass of yours (and most others) seems to only come out when it's most convenient for you.

I'd have a lot more respect for some of you here if you at least came clean and admitted that you don't give a fuck about courtney smith or what her entire family is going through as a result of this exploitive story, MOST ESPECIALLY her kids. It's not about her, it's not about DV, its about football and wins and losses. Maryland coaches literally murdered a kid on their field a week ago and it maybe got like 3 responses? So, what's really moving the needle here?

  

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136. "*shrug* "
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i read Spencer regularly anyways, and as i read it i was reminded of your question in the post i replied to

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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139. "oh and..."
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>It's not about her, it's not about DV, its about football and
>wins and losses.

ironic youd be here chastising posters, considering OSU feels the exact same way apparently.

> Maryland coaches literally murdered a kid on
>their field a week ago and it maybe got like 3 responses? So,
>what's really moving the needle here?

Maryland is gonna clean house and the people responsible for that tragedy will be punished for their negligence. If he gets a 3 game suspension or something i feel like the outrage will increase considerably.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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140. "exactly you aint got shit to say"
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Mon Aug-27-18 06:31 PM by 3xKrazy

          

>ironic youd be here chastising posters, considering OSU feels
>the exact same way apparently.

assbrain logic 101: projecting the actions of a university/football team onto their fanbase.

oddly enough OSU didn't consult me on how to handle this situation. and oddly enough you haven't bothered to read the findings of the report.


>Maryland is gonna clean house and the people responsible for
>that tragedy will be punished for their negligence. If he
>gets a 3 game suspension or something i feel like the outrage
>will increase considerably.

there were 100+ posts in here and 3 weeks worth of media hysteria before any penalty was announced. but otherwise great comparison.

  

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142. "theres nothing TO say."
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i have more posts in here about ND and MSU than i do about Ohio State, and you replied to something that someone else wrote (a well respected cfb writer at that) that directly addressed your own words

so i dont know where my perceived revelry is coming from. i think you're just bummed and lashing out.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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145. "re: "
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>and you replied to something that someone else
>wrote (a well respected cfb writer at that) that directly
>addressed your own words

no you replied directly to me (as is your habit) and i then responded directly to you. if you're not gonna cosign on the article (and much of the revelry within) then state that beforehand.

>so i dont know where my perceived revelry is coming from. i
>think you're just bummed and lashing out.

no, you being a hypocrite doesn't bum me out at all. season starts tomorrow and im looking forward to it.

  

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2. "talk about having receipts....wow"
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4. "Nike called it"
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21. "lol"
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7. "If Tressel got gone for tats, this is worse"
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9. "But Dantonio and Izzo stay employed after Larry Nassar?"
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I don't get that at all.

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12. "because it's MSU and nobody gives a shit"
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>I don't get that at all.

it's really quite simple

  

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18. "Golf clap "
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32. "nobody here had much to say over the baylor calamity "
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go figure

  

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33. "I am not sure what youre implying there"
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But my last post was not combative at all. I agree, no one gives a shit about MSU.

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35. "i know. i wasnt suggesting that you were being combative."
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>But my last post was not combative at all. I agree, no one
>gives a shit about MSU.


What i meant was that people care when this happens to a rival or a successful program or someone they don't like (meyer). when it's about msu or baylor nobody gives a fuck.

this is about football for the majority and not morals.

  

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37. "I hope most would get that"
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To what you were saying, I didnt get 20 "Oh shit, you think Briles is gone" texts but Urb was a hot topic last night.

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58. "i dont think most people have that level of self awareness"
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when i see psu fans and card carrying members of the joe paterno for life club condemning urban's actions then i know pretty much where we're at with this.

  

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63. "eh thats relative"
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if you were a OU grad in dallas i bet that would be turned around

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23. "RE: because at MSU nobody gives a shit --- fixed that for you"
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19. "Nassar State, the college that gave us all Donkeylips..."
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22. "do you mean the ESPN OTL report?"
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because they had nothing to do with his atrocities

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28. "Right - they aren't connected to Nassar at all, while Urban was "
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Smith's boss.

  

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11. "Tressel was a NCAA violation, this isn’t. "
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So not really comparable situations.

  

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14. "So you want to parse it that way? Cool"
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15. "it worked for UNC *shrug*"
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it could work for Ohio State too.

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16. "I’m not parsing anything. It’s an important distinction. "
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Some things are in the purview of the ncaa, law enforcement, university, etc. and are dealt with accordingly. That’s life.

  

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17. "it's the reality and it probably should be"
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unless you want the ncaa, which can't tie its own shoe, to legislate morality.

I don't. Ohio State (and Penn State, and Michigan State, and on and on) should have to answer to the law and the university accreditation system for real-life stuff, not some cabal that exists only to run a basketball tournament and keep kids broke.

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38. "i wouldnt even mind the ncaa having some sort of morality clause "
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assuming they were capable of handling such a thing (which they're not)

but the issue with tressel is that he violated a very clear ncaa rule so there wasn't much wiggle room there. as far as i know, that's not the case with meyer. it's up to the university as to how they'd like to proceed.

  

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48. "Tressel went down to protect the single reason for the NCAA’s existenc..."
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The NCAA exists to keep em broke. That is their sole purpose and only value add to schools. Anything that breaks the single cardinal law demands a furious response and, in Tressel’s case, a fall guy,

Urban? Guys, this is business as usual. College football coaches have been hiding domestic abusers on their staffs since the beginning of college football. Everyone can still make money. More importantly, domestic abuse doesn’t expose the core lie and scam of college athletics.

Now, for liability reasons, and because the athletic department at Ohio State clearly needs a Clorox bath, Urbs is still almost certainly gone. But they do have wiggle room with the NCAA. The NCAA is not going to throw the Penn State penalty on Ohio State if they don’t fire Urban, because this isn’t as bad as Penn State and because this doesn’t violate core NCAA dictate #1.

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53. "The whole NCAA is set up to legislate morality"
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You ever read some of the BS rules?

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55. "nope. It’s set up to protect the amateurism con."
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Everything else is window dressing:

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20. "Things are going well in Ohio these days"
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/wrestlers-coach-asked-us-to-recant-jim-jordan-allegations.html

  

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24. "so is dude saying his wife aint mention this in 3 whole years??"
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and they both work together ... fuck.outta.here.

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25. "Grandson of former OSU HC"
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Was he convicted of something for the 2015 incident?

Meyer should've been unemployed after his stint at Florida

...if we're playing morality police and all...

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31. "no"
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>Was he convicted of something for the 2015 incident?
>

  

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43. "Allegedly*"
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*feel like that's an important distinction that's being overlooked

If there wasn't a criminal conviction...Meyer's being sat down over an alleged incident

?

Meyer's wife works for OSU

No debate, she knew, and she has a duty to report it to the school.

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44. "the lying is fact, so who GAF"
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45. "2009, charges dropped. 2015, charges not filed "
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2018, criminal trespass

= fired for dropping his son off

Those are the facts.

Pretty hard to prove what someone knows

The wife should be fired if she didn't report.

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47. "oh"
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>2018, criminal trespass
>
>= fired for dropping his son off
>
>Those are the facts.
>
>Pretty hard to prove what someone knows
>
>The wife should be fired if she didn't report.

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50. "RE: Allegedly*"
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>*feel like that's an important distinction that's being
>overlooked

gee ya think? lol

look NOBODY likes zach smith...but he's entitled to share his side of the story.


>Meyer's wife works for OSU
>
>No debate, she knew, and she has a duty to report it to the
>school.

from what i read, in her particular position which was not in an advisory role...she may not have had a duty to report. im not 100% on that.

as far as who knew what...there were issues dating back to 2009 so obviously they were aware of everything in at least a general sense.

  

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51. "Meyer reported the 2009 incident "
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What is alleged to have happened in 2015?

I know Meyer is trophy on the mantle piece that folks want to gun for

...just saying, we're overlooking a lot by focusing on him IMO...

Mrs Meyer
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LEOs

We expect an internal OSU investigation to answer the questions surrounding the Smiths' marriage?

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52. "RE: Meyer reported the 2009 incident "
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>What is alleged to have happened in 2015?

I *think* it was for a dispute at the house but courtney sealed the file from public record so we don't know exactly what happened or what was alleged to happen. like i said, i *think* this is what occurred so forgive me if my info is incorrect.

but at this point in 2015, law enforcement is involved and subsequently the family court system...so it's already in the hands of the people who can actually do something to help the situation.

>I know Meyer is trophy on the mantle piece that folks want to
>gun for
>
>...just saying, we're overlooking a lot by focusing on him
>IMO...
>
>Mrs Meyer
>OSU AD
>OSU President
>LEOs

if zach smith needed to be fired then certainly the OSU AD has the power and responsibility to make that call.

  

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54. "The system failed her."
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I feel some type of way about ESPN having so much control over the narrative

Obvious conflict of interest for them to focus solely on the HC

Especially considering the wrestling story that's been circulating all year

What does it take to get the death penalty in college athletics? (other than taking $$$)

I won't hold my breath waiting for the bob lee OTL episode about a fired ESPN reporter being the person who broke this story

Anyway, I just feel like ALL of the focus being on the HC misses the actual issue

The system failed, from the school to law enforcement, and that is what should be addressed.

Firing the HC or assistant HC won't change anything

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57. "seems like we're back to presuming guilt on zach smith"
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>The system failed, from the school to law enforcement, and
>that is what should be addressed.

if this was kicked up to law enforcement and the family court system then i dont know what the university was supposed to do to 'protect' her. this isn't a student living in a campus dorm.

firing smith was really the university's only recourse...and doing so wasn't going to help their toxic home life.

  

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26. "guess Notre Dame wont ever be happening now."
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he'll coach again...later

but not in South Bend. and i would bet that had always been part of the plan at SOME point

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27. "Well murder is ok there......"
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30. "Yep, Brian Kelley should be in prison"
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34. "seriously?"
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seemed more like a non-punitive sentinel event to me

like a patient dying in a hospital because of compounded errors

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36. "This is about starting Zaire right?"
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39. "lmao"
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49. "Y.E. Yang fist pump"
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41. "I would put it in the category of negligent homicide or whatever equival..."
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A scared kid running the camera on a 35-foot high scaffolding in a windstorm wanted to get down. Kelley was like, nope, get your ass back up there. That's criminal to me.

  

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29. "right, because Brian Kelley runs a squeaky clean program"
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40. "It was one of the options while he was at Uf. Lol at him leaving this jo..."
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>he'll coach again...later
>
>but not in South Bend. and i would bet that had always been
>part of the plan at SOME point



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42. "it WAS always an option."
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and it was still available to him up until yesterday

whether or not hed have ever taken it is separate from whether or not he COULD

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59. "i'll take him whenever we bounce Fedora"
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idc idc idc. the results are worth it.

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61. "idk how yall even have a football program"
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so unc cant surprise me anymore

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74. "RE: idk how yall even have an athletic department*"
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>so unc cant surprise me anymore

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102. "back up the salt trucks."
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105. "*shrug* UNC doesnt have anything i want"
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id rather have our football program, and even Jordan likes Michigan better, so...

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119. "I'm sure you want 1993."
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About as much as CWebb wanted a timeout

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60. "He’s gotta go."
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62. "didnt Urb coach A Hern???"
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65. "worse..."
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Tebow

  

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64. "This POS wr coach needs to stfu and stay off of tv he’s not helping..."
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the situation at all

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66. "Zone 6 was always chirping, arrogant, and entitled on Twitter"
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no surprise he's that person outside of that realm

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67. "how do you feel he's hurting the situation?"
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and for who is he hurting the situation?

  

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77. "Still wondering why he needed to stfu other than to appease you"
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Is he allowed to speak in court at least or should he be denied that right because some
loon on a mesageboard has a hard-on for Osu football?

  

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68. "I admit it (c)"
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69. "why is the preseason cfb post hidden?"
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70. "yeah..."
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???

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71. "i searched it and started a schedule prediction thread for GT"
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game by game like the old days and the shit aint even visible

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72. "Man this dude was off the chain..."
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https://sports.yahoo.com/report-zach-smith-took-lewd-photos-white-house-sex-ohio-state-staffer-225959537.html

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73. "award winning journalism right here"
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jesus

this is beyond personal for everyone involved

  

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75. "Word tonight is a suspension with time served"
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So I don’t want to hear single Pedo State joke from any buckeye ever again. Zero difference.

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76. "Wait, you’re actually comparing the 2 incidents? Are you for real?"
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> Zero difference.

And maybe ignore the twitter rumors and wait until the final announcement is made. Because nobody has a clue what’s going on. The rush to judgment throughout this ordeal and blind acceptance of unverified rumor and accusation has been pretty wild.

  

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78. "shut up"
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79. "um"
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the only instance your incredibly wild claim would even make sense is if he was beating his wife on campus, specifically in the football facilities, for decades.

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80. "and she was a minor"
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in other words it's an Inspector Gadget with extended arms level reach

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81. "and law enforcement wasnt involved"
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shelly and psu fans are more concerned with gaining comeback fodder on OSU fans than they are with the multitude of serious real life issues intertwined with this case.

cfb fans (not just PSU) have really shown their true ugliness with this one and there are some great examples in this thread. everyone has made it really clear what they're about.

  

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82. "Shells...no"
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83. "responses tell me that women<<<<kids. good to know."
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84. "Just STFU"
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85. "lmfao log off fam."
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104. "Jesus dude... you're smarter than this"
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I think all of these college organizations are filled with scumbags, but you got no ground to stand on here.

  

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86. "3 game suspension, without dinero"
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no link just heard on espn

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87. "this world we live in is wild"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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88. "Zero. Difference."
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Administration looking the other way while coaches commit unfathomable acts.

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89. "Back for Penn State? BWAHAHAHAHA"
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can still be around the program? Man, it’d have been better if they suspended him for no games and gave him a raise instead.

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97. "What a bunch of cowards"
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99. "shit's weak"
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90. "wow, i didnt think TOSU had the balls to suspend him for any games"
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i would not be surprised if he leaves ohio state at the first chance he gets now.....i honestly thought he was gonna get fired

this will definitely cause a rift in the relationship ....from all accounts he was adamant against any type of suspension


oh well.


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91. "RE: wow, i didnt think TOSU had the balls to suspend him for any games"
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https://twitter.com/dragonflyjonez/status/1032439956516560896?s=21

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93. "im still not over how he and the Tat 5 went out....nm"
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>https://twitter.com/dragonflyjonez/status/1032439956516560896?s=21

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92. "drake or urban...one of them will push the other out."
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>this will definitely cause a rift in the relationship ....from
>all accounts he was adamant against any type of suspension

and why gene smith still has a job is most perplexing of all.

that press conference was an abomination.

they needed to take a breather after that marathon board meeting and come back with a better prepared press conference the following morning.

  

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94. "hes going to Notre Dame after Kelly gets canned"
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>and why gene smith still has a job is most perplexing of all.

he did well with the Chris Holtmann hire, so I've come around a bit


>that press conference was an abomination.

lol im scared to watch
>
>they needed to take a breather after that marathon board
>meeting and come back with a better prepared press conference
>the following morning.


smh @ their obsession with press conferences...forever bungling all media interactions

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95. "man he's not gonna go coach ND...lol. "
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>he did well with the Chris Holtmann hire, so I've come around
>a bit

fuck basketball hire. this buffoon has presided over 2 major football scandals and has objectively failed at both beyond measure.


>>that press conference was an abomination.
>
>lol im scared to watch

you need to watch this press conference (as well as listen/read the findings of the investigation committee) and get back to me.

i could write an essay on how problematic the PC was but i really dont feel like contributing any more time out of my life to this.

but one very key point.

The committee cleared gene/urban of any malice or dishonesty during their handling of smith. except for ONE issue. And that was not relaying the incident to compliance (which apparently is university protocol). A reporter asked drake whose responsibility it was to alert compliance. Drake stuttered and stammered like a complete moron and had no answer until Gene interrupted him and said that the responsibility fell on himself. The reporter asked if the responsibility fell on Urban as well and gene said no...it is the AD's job to alert compliance.

You're an AD making however many million per year at one of the biggest and most lucrative athletic departments in the country...how the fuck do you not carry out the basic rules governing your office? That's like THE entire purpose of your job and your existence for being! Know the rules and protocol for such issues and enforce them and make sure your employees know as well.

There's a leadership issue at the very top of OSU. I would expect fundraising to take a hit after that PC.

  

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98. "im just sayin, id be surprised if he retires as a Buckeye HC"
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>
>>>that press conference was an abomination.
>>
>>lol im scared to watch
>
>you need to watch this press conference (as well as
>listen/read the findings of the investigation committee) and
>get back to me.
>
>i could write an essay on how problematic the PC was but i
>really dont feel like contributing any more time out of my
>life to this.
>
>but one very key point.
>
>The committee cleared gene/urban of any malice or dishonesty
>during their handling of smith. except for ONE issue. And that
>was not relaying the incident to compliance (which apparently
>is university protocol). A reporter asked drake whose
>responsibility it was to alert compliance. Drake stuttered and
>stammered like a complete moron and had no answer until Gene
>interrupted him and said that the responsibility fell on
>himself. The reporter asked if the responsibility fell on
>Urban as well and gene said no...it is the AD's job to alert
>compliance.
>
>You're an AD making however many million per year at one of
>the biggest and most lucrative athletic departments in the
>country...how the fuck do you not carry out the basic rules
>governing your office? That's like THE entire purpose of your
>job and your existence for being! Know the rules and protocol
>for such issues and enforce them and make sure your employees
>know as well.
>
>There's a leadership issue at the very top of OSU. I would
>expect fundraising to take a hit after that PC.
>
>

lol this has been the general consensus of everyone ive talked to, that has watched the press conference..ill check it out soon

which games are you attending this year?

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115. "if Urban didn't want to stay at OSU he wouldnt have accepted "
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the suspension.

meyer has a better chance of surviving than drake who was unanimously disliked prior to this most recent clusterfuck.

>which games are you attending this year?

was planning on mich

  

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100. ""Blame it on a black man, what the heck!"(c)Mark Wahlberg "
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106. "Where is that quote from?"
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"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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108. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2q_b5rhvo"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2q_b5rhvo

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109. "I just realized that was his brother Donnie giving the girl drugs..."
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under the bleachers lol

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121. "Wait, you guys know Marky Mark lyrics off the rip?"
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That's a first for anyone that I've ever encountered.

I figured it was from a movie or something.

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126. "no, but I definitely used to see this video, plenty..."
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it used to come on BET and MTV, plus the Jukebox. I liked it because of the beat and the horns. My potnas and I used to have certain rap phrases we always used for stuff...and that quote was one of them. So, when I read it...I knew right away where it came from.

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127. "If you’re black and you were of age during that era you know that..."
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one specific Marky Mark line which was actually a description of a real life incident: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Stuart_(murderer)

Then Susan Smith was a few years after that: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith

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132. "Oh, I'm aware of the incidents. Just associating them with..."
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... a Marky Mark line was not what I was expecting.

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125. "LULZ...he gave her a lot of drugs, too...damn"
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.

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114. "if you're gonna reply to my posts at least answer the ones"
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i bumped for you

but ya im totally "dumping" it on gene cause he's black...good call.

  

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116. "RE: if you're gonna reply to my posts at least answer the ones"
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>i bumped for you
>
>but ya im totally "dumping" it on gene cause he's black...good
>call.


everybody knows that big time coaches like Urb, Saban, Coach K etc., don't answer to anybody but the president of the university and the person with the AD title actually answers to them. Gene Smith wasn't going to do anything to jeopardize the football program without Urban's approval.

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117. "i never disagreed with that...but not really relevant to my point."
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>everybody knows that big time coaches like Urb, Saban, Coach K
>etc., don't answer to anybody but the president of the
>university and the person with the AD title actually answers
>to them. Gene Smith wasn't going to do anything to jeopardize
>the football program without Urban's approval.

and i dont even know if the football coach answers to the president more than he does the BOT.

but everyone's got a job to do nonetheless.

  

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124. "hmmm...according to the report findings gene smith did have contact"
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with compliance about the issue.

maybe gene wasn't the one to initiate contact and that was the problem? maybe he did follow protocol? i dunno. doubt anyone is really interested in what actually happened anyway.

  

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107. "i get why Urbz didnt get bounced"
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but who tf does Gene Smith have compromising photos of?

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112. "let's be real..."
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>but who tf does Gene Smith have compromising photos of?

Gene Smith doesn't fart without Urb's permission

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96. "I'm embarrassed to be an Ohio State fan right now."
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Him and Gene Smith should have been canned

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101. "wow"
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You're the first I've heard yet. I imagine they'll be others though.

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118. "They'll all get over it if/when they make the CFP"
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123. "Not quite...."
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There is room to be excited about what your team is doing on the field, while still be disappointed, upset or even angry at what they are doing off the field.

I just went thru this with the Eagles and the NFL last year. Eagles bee my favorite team for a long time and obviously we won our first super bowl. I wasn't watching games for a while b/c of the Kap stuff. Then I got booked to DJ their Christmas party. Obviously I was torn. Upset about the Kap stuff, and the NFL's lack of diversity (its crazy behind the scenes compared to say the NBA...I've done Knicks and G-League stuff), but happy my team is winning and I get this professional look.

I say all that to say...there is nuance to all of this. Regardless of how well we do on the field, I will always feel a ways about how this was handled.

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103. "Football & money >>> ethics"
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110. "He's on medication that makes him forget about domestic violence"
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allegations...but doesn't effect his ability to run a major NCAA football program...?

Gene Smith told him to acknowledge the 2015 incident ahead of the BIG 10 press conference

Allegedly sought help for deleting messages from his phone over a year old

Honestly don't see how that 2nd item doesn't get you fired

...and then there was that press conference yesterday...

BTW, the suspension is only 1 game...he goes back to running practice after that

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111. "not to mention both of their contracts state that any allegations of any..."
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that could potentially have broken or be breaking any laws should be formally reported in writing to the university administration, and it wasn't. whether charges are filed or not.

i'm not quite sure this is all said and done at this point.

the oops i forgot pills just make the story fucking outlandish.

  

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113. "lmao yea the memory loss pill excuse is a new one...smh so bad"
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>allegations...but doesn't effect his ability to run a major
>NCAA football program...?
>
>Gene Smith told him to acknowledge the 2015 incident ahead of
>the BIG 10 press conference
>
>Allegedly sought help for deleting messages from his phone
>over a year old
>
>Honestly don't see how that 2nd item doesn't get you fired
>
>...and then there was that press conference yesterday...
>
>BTW, the suspension is only 1 game...he goes back to running
>practice after that

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120. "RE: lmao yea the memory loss pill excuse is a new one...smh so bad"
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122. "feigning medical conditions is an Urb specialty"
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remember when he convinced everyone he was about to die due to coaching stress at Florida...then cured himself 12 months later when one of his dream jobs opened up? yeah, maybe just I do.

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128. "not just you lol"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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129. "LOL this will never not be funny to me"
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And he completely got a pass for doing it, too!

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130. "...no comment."
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>remember when he convinced everyone he was about to die due
>to coaching stress at Florida...then cured himself 12 months
>later when one of his dream jobs opened up? yeah, maybe just I
>do.

  

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138. "dude should never let the word "integrity" come out of his mouth"
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147. "devoted family man...unless there is something better to do"
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someone posted something like that on here years ago and I damn near choked on my own laughter

  

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131. "lol"
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135. "hmm what fanbase is responsible for this train of thought?"
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"It's disturbing to see fanbase gleefully seize upon something as disgusting as
rape allegations to "rub it in" on their rival."

  

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137. ""Pedo State" users live in glass houses, homeboy"
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no one had more jokes after sandusky than you and your ilk. no one should trivialize assault of any kind, but if any fan base had it coming, it's yours.

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141. "no. that quote has nothing to do with PSU but good luck w/your paranoia."
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take the advice from the rest of the non-lunatic people in this thread and just log off already, holy shit.

>no one had more jokes after sandusky than you and your ilk.

couldn't be further from the truth (feel free to run a search) but you're in a paranoid daze so I don't expect much from you at this point. you're making dumb assumptions and are clearly not able to be reasoned with. and i dont have the desire to take a trip down memory lane with you as you try your best to hijack this thread and make it all about you. nobody cares about your self perceived plight or your desperation attempts to make what happened at PSU somehow appear less horrendous than what it actually was.

but i had actually felt bad for PSU fans. i couldn't imagine waking up to that kind of news and therefore had the good sense to realize that PSU fans (no matter how irrationally self righteous and annoying) bore no responsibility for the horrific shit that occurred there. how could one think otherwise?

> but if any fan
>base had it coming, it's yours.

see above as to this ridiculous train of thought. i dont have anything coming my way but thanks for your well wishes.

  

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144. "He's lost his marbles... Don't bother "
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>take the advice from the rest of the non-lunatic people in
>this thread and just log off already, holy shit.
>
>>no one had more jokes after sandusky than you and your ilk.
>
>couldn't be further from the truth (feel free to run a search)
>but you're in a paranoid daze so I don't expect much from you
>at this point. you're making dumb assumptions and are clearly
>not able to be reasoned with. and i dont have the desire to
>take a trip down memory lane with you as you try your best to
>hijack this thread and make it all about you. nobody cares
>about your self perceived plight or your desperation attempts
>to make what happened at PSU somehow appear less horrendous
>than what it actually was.
>
>but i had actually felt bad for PSU fans. i couldn't imagine
>waking up to that kind of news and therefore had the good
>sense to realize that PSU fans (no matter how irrationally
>self righteous and annoying) bore no responsibility for the
>horrific shit that occurred there. how could one think
>otherwise?
>
>> but if any fan
>>base had it coming, it's yours.
>
>see above as to this ridiculous train of thought. i dont have
>anything coming my way but thanks for your well wishes.

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143. "*lights candle in hopes that Urb may conquer his memory loss struggles*"
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146. "Oh shit! Bomb sighting!"
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148. "hey there!"
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