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Is Jaelene Hinkle being blackballed from the USWNT for her religious beliefs?
Eric Adelson
Yahoo SportsJuly 25, 2018, 12:47 AM CDT

She is the most polarizing player in U.S. women’s soccer, and she is not even on the U.S. women’s soccer team.

No, it’s not Hope Solo.


Jaelene Hinkle was cut this week from the final 23 for Team USA’s upcoming tournament. These sort of roster changes happen all the time. Hinkle is not Alex Morgan or Carli Lloyd. She’s a left back.

However, Hinkle is the player who declined to play on the national team last year because she is a devout Christian and the U.S. wore rainbow-colored numbers on their jerseys to celebrate Pride Month. For her, it was a choice of conscience and faith. For many in the LGBTQ community, and elsewhere, it was a disgraceful show of homophobia. There was debate in the soccer community about whether she would ever get another shot at the national team, and Hinkle herself accepted that her decision may cost her a childhood dream.

On July 18, however, she got a call-up. And the reaction was fierce.

“Kick Her Off” screamed one Slate headline. “By giving Jaelene Hinkle a roster spot, U.S. Soccer sold out its LGBTQ fans and players for a better shot at the Women’s World Cup.” It went on to accuse head coach Jill Ellis, who is married to a woman, of “compromising the unity that’s essential for any good team and snubbing a not-insignificant segment of their customer base.”

Monday, five days after being added to the training camp roster, she was cut. But why?

According to a U.S. soccer spokesperson, “It was based on performance.” Yet, Hinkle plays a position of need for the national team. And according to her NWSL coach on the North Carolina Courage, Hinkle is “the best left back in the league by a country mile.”

This is not an outlandish opinion, even coming from Hinkle’s own coach. Katelyn Best, who has written eloquently and convincingly as a critic of Hinkle’s decision last year, still calls her “hands down the best left back in the league this season.”

Courage coach Paul Riley, in an interview Tuesday with Yahoo Sports, said Hinkle “should be on the roster for the national team. She’s good enough, intelligent enough, quick enough.” He further said it was “frustrating” how quickly the decision was made. “I don’t know how you can make the decision in two days,” he said. “I would have preferred for to keep them all or not bring her in the first place.”

So was this truly a soccer decision? Riley says he’s sure it was.

Others will likely disagree. Best broaches the possibility that the call-up was simply to stem any belief that Hinkle had been blackballed. Then the ultimate decision was to stem the backlash. In this scenario, Ellis was trying to appease everyone. There’s also a more banal scenario: Hinkle didn’t have a great tryout.

Anything’s possible in a social media age when truth is subjective, and this is the problem that Ellis will continue to face. She could have gotten credit for bringing Hinkle back after being snubbed, but instead she’s in a no-win situation. Put Hinkle on the team and it will be seen as a shot at the LGBTQ community. Leave her off the team and it will be seen as a shot at the Christian community. And it’s important to remember these communities are not of one mind about this. Some will cheer for the team whether or not Hinkle is on it. Others will see her as the very reason to cheer for the team, or the very reason to boycott it.


A source close to the national team says there was no revolt about Hinkle’s call-up, and there was no disruption or distraction during her short time with the group. That’s not to say that every player is fine with her refusal to wear the jersey – that’s highly unlikely – but it is a good soccer sign that Hinkle could fit in as she has in North Carolina (which is the best team in the league, thanks in part to its star left back).

Riley says that “nothing at all” has troubled him about coaching Hinkle. “She’s an easy person to coach,” he says. “A learner. A motivated player.” Keep in mind that Hinkle played on Pride Night for the Courage, and obviously she has not refused to play alongside LGBTQ players. Nor do we see any evidence that any player has refused to play alongside her.

This week’s controversy will pass. It’s not a World Cup year. However, next year most definitely is, and Ellis will have to pick the very best players for the pursuit of the top prize in France. Hinkle will likely make the coach’s decision even more difficult. She is entering her prime, and improving rapidly. Riley, for his part, says he “hopes she gets more of a chance next year.”

“She’s gone to another level,” the Courage coach says. “She’s knocking Marta, knocking Alex Morgan, knocking Rapinoe. She’s got a lot more to offer.”

Several days ago, Anthony DiCicco, son of the legendary late national team coach Tony DiCicco, tweeted this about Hinkle: “I pray for her to find empathy. Love is Love. No group has ever demonstrated that as well as the #USWNT. It’s forever part of the program’s DNA.”

It’s a heartfelt, well-meaning statement (unlike a lot of what’s written about this subject on Twitter). But Hinkle surely sees herself as choosing love every day, including and perhaps especially the day she refused to play for the national team. For all the fans who feel she is an incorrigible villain for having her views, there are also fans who are delighted at how she sacrificed for her faith. There is a passionate argument in saying no one should tell Hinkle how to live her life. There is also a passionate argument in saying Hinkle is tacitly telling everyone else how to live their lives.

Don’t expect many minds to change. The key question over the coming months is whether Ellis’ mind will change.

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dude really posts *any* gay news he can find it's wild
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More reliable than Rod and Karen singing Sylvester
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i know "out" adults who care less about homosexuality than you
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Oh, Truth is almost certainly gay. Don't care, though.
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      at a minimum he's bi-curious.
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if she don't get her high-yella ass the fuck...
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PAD ON EM, T!!!
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^^^ ROCK N ROLL GAY AGENDA!!
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RE: Jaelene Hinkle blackballed by USWNT for her religious beliefs?(swipe...
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I hope so - No Protestants on the USWNT
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*swipes up on this reply*
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PAD ON EM, 'EYE!!!
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My dude compelled 'em with the power of Christ in that reply
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So, she can play for a lesbian, but can't wear a rainbow
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Is that really that crazy tho? Lots of athletes
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Right, but...IMO a gay HC does more to further the LGBTQ agenda
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      are you using "agenda" facetiously?
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      RE: are you using "agenda" facetiously?
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           so you think there's a LGBTQ "agenda"?
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                Is there not?
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                     you think that wanting to live your life without restrictions
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                          I would say that's the goal
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                               RE: I would say that's the goal
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                               intentional or not, there's a pejorative connotation.
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                               RE: intentional or not, there's a pejorative connotation.
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                               you gotta admit it's funny AF that ...
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                               LOL
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                               lmao
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                               I think that's why using it this way is good
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                               I want to eat. Describing a completely natural desire to eat
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      Lol what the hell are you talking about
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           EX; An NBA player, for whatever reason, is an anti-feminist
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                wat
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                this is the dumbest fucking shit I've ever read here in all of these yea...
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                Lulz
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Behind one too, considering that Pinoe will still be chugging along that...
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I kind of see her point...kind of
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the no-context personal freedom exemption doesn't fly for me
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      RE: the no-context personal freedom exemption doesn't fly for me
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RE: Jaelene Hinkle blackballed by USWNT for her religious beliefs?(swipe...
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damn, she looks almost exactly like my ex girlfriend
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Big round of applause for Portland Thorns fans when she came to town
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*Rights
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....what?
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breh...you edited to this?
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those are his refined thoughts
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On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate your own toughness?
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co-opt, invent, whatever
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RE: *Rights
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So...gay rights then...acceptable or nah...?
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reasonable ppl have just been saying "civil rights" for quite some time
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      see reply 13
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           RE: see reply 13
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LMAO
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lulz
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It's 2018 and people are still like this.
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WHITEBALLED, not blackballed.
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5. "RE: Jaelene Hinkle blackballed by USWNT for her religious beliefs?(swipe..."
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My Christian homeboy posted some shot in support of her too lol

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6. "I hope so - No Protestants on the USWNT"
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These sola scriptura dorks want the scars but they don't want the war.

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>These sola scriptura dorks want the scars but they don't want
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7. "So, she can play for a lesbian, but can't wear a rainbow "
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Can someone point me to that scripture

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Play for coaches or owners who live a life or support something that the athlete doesn't agree with.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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11. "Right, but...IMO a gay HC does more to further the LGBTQ agenda"
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Than some colors on a jersey

i.e. her play and success as a player directly correlates to the HC's success, etc...

If she was taking a stand against the LGBTQ agenda...she could've started by refusing to play for a gay HC

Or play with gay players

Taking a stance against a colorful jersey...seems way down on the list of options...IMO

WWJD?

I also find it comical that religious nuts even take this stance considering the pedo scandals that we've lived through over the past 30+ years

Shouldn't they be boycotting the church if they are anti-LBGTQ...?

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i really hope so

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13. "RE: are you using "agenda" facetiously?"
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agenda

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15. "so you think there's a LGBTQ "agenda"?"
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16. "Is there not?"
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Marriage equality

Military service

Anti-discrimination/awareness

Etc...

Again, what word do you suggest?

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19. "you think that wanting to live your life without restrictions"
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is an "agenda"

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20. "I would say that's the goal"
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Does an agenda of action items not help one work toward that goal?

I posted the definition...does it not fit?

WTF is up with the quotation marks?

Agenda is a word

Let me know if I'm using it out of context...or you could just spit out whatever you're intimating at.

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21. "RE: I would say that's the goal"
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>Does an agenda of action items not help one work toward that
>goal?
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>I posted the definition...does it not fit?
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>WTF is up with the quotation marks?
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>Agenda is a word
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>Let me know if I'm using it out of context...or you could just
>spit out whatever you're intimating at.

It's a dog-whistle phrase. You may be unfamiliar, but that's what people are really asking.

Or you are familiar and doing the Tucker Carlson thing, which, hey, this is America!

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23. "intentional or not, there's a pejorative connotation."
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talk of "furthering the LGBTQ agenda" basically implies "these damn queers forcing their damn lifestyle on us normies" rather than what it actually is: a desire for basic human dignity

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24. "RE: intentional or not, there's a pejorative connotation."
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I don't think "agenda" automatically has a pejorative aspect but in recent and not-that-recent American society the idea of a "gay agenda" is definitely a dog-whistle.

It's entirely possible the poster did not know that however.

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32. "you gotta admit it's funny AF that ..."
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on *OKAYSPORTS* we are talking about the negative connotation of the word AGENDA

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35. "lmao"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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36. "I think that's why using it this way is good"
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Wanting to achieve things, politically, is exactly as good as those outcomes are. You're right that it is almost always used pejoratively (is there really only one "r" in that word? that doesn't look right at all) but the announcement of "I would like to accomplish something transformative through politics" isn't something to avoid saying - and though the "something" in this case is fairly described as the right to live the same banal existence as straight folks, affirming that this requires organized action means acknowledging that there are enemies to this.

In short: good agendas are good. Telling people that you intend to make the world better is good.

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26. "I want to eat. Describing a completely natural desire to eat"
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as a "food agenda" would be entirely insulting.

Until and unless you describe nominally straight people's performance of hetero relationships as furthering their agenda, then there's no logical explanation for describing it like that for the actions of people who aren't straight

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25. "Lol what the hell are you talking about"
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That was such a silly reply I'm not sure where to start.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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39. "EX; An NBA player, for whatever reason, is an anti-feminist"
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and that NBA player ends up playing for the San Antonio Spurs

through their association with the organization, an organization that employs a female assistant HC

his success as a player actually furthers feminism, by in turn contributing to the success of a female assistant HC

player has no problem with that

but when the team wants to support breast cancer awareness by wearing pink

player declines to play for the team

i.e. the female assistant HC does more to further feminism than the color pink

you follow?

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41. "wat"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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44. "this is the dumbest fucking shit I've ever read here in all of these yea..."
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at every level from concept to execution this doesn't even start to make sense.



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45. "Lulz"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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10. "Behind one too, considering that Pinoe will still be chugging along that..."
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14. "I kind of see her point...kind of"
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If she sees wearing the rainbow flag as a sort of "endorsement" of the lifestyle (for lack of a better term) then she can't in good conscience rock it on her uniform. I dealt with a somewhat situation where I was on a team that had an American flag on the jerseys, and I wasn't feeling that based on my religious beliefs. The team wasn't a national team or representative of the country, or state, so I protested. I eventually was allowed to remove the patch from my jersey. Now, conversely, I wouldn't try to join the U.S. bowling team and think that I could expect that to work.

If she has her convictions and feels she can't wear the rainbow flag, IMO her only option is to challenge its being a part of the uniform. If it isn't sponsored (paid endorsement) I think she has grounds not to rock it. The fight in courts could last a while, but she may be able to win that argument.

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17. "the no-context personal freedom exemption doesn't fly for me"
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the reason we have rainbow jerseys is because they've been excluded from public life for generations. That context matters--it's why I'd fight for someone to be able to add a rainbow but fight against someone trying to remove it. Similarly, I'd be opposed to "christian appreciation night" but a "muslim appreciation night" would be a reasonable option. Histories (and current levels) of power matter.

The non-recognition of LGBTQ is the norm in sports. If you don't like that some American sports teams are working to be better at that (albeit in a flimsy capitalist way), too bad for you, imo.

  

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22. "RE: the no-context personal freedom exemption doesn't fly for me"
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I'm all for Christian Appreciation night! The Judeo-Christian tradition is based on the idea that you are oppressed, the more you fuck with them, the more pious they feel. Hence, "War on Christmas" is a thing in a country where the overwhelming majority of people celebrate Christmas, and there obviously is no one trying to stop Christmas from happening.

All it takes is going to the mall and seeing some bunting that says Happy Holidays, and people run in fear of impending Shariah law.

Let them have as many Jesus Appreciation nights as you want. Seriously. Especially since it's usually in the most Christian places in the country. Have at it!

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27. "RE: Jaelene Hinkle blackballed by USWNT for her religious beliefs?(swipe..."
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Welp....not much has changed.....

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34. "damn, she looks almost exactly like my ex girlfriend"
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minus the curls

  

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37. "Big round of applause for Portland Thorns fans when she came to town"
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https://twitter.com/jacobcristobal/status/1002018269992181760

Pride flags all over the stadium and a big "Personal Reasons" banner.

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38. "*Rights"
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big thank you to everyone who took time out to correct my inappropriate and offensive use of the term agenda

*COTDAYUM liberals are some pussies

So...the Tucker Carlson crew co-opted the word and ya'll too scared to use it again

SMH

good luck in the midterms.

to be clear, I was unaware...but being a US resident/citizen...I must have been exposed to the term somewhere

I will use the term gay rights from now on...unless that is offensive too...is it LGBTQ rights?...is the term gay offensive too?

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42. "....what?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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43. "breh...you edited to this?"
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49. "those are his refined thoughts"
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LOL

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46. "On a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate your own toughness?"
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47. "co-opt, invent, whatever"
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48. "RE: *Rights"
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You asked why people were reacting that way and I, amongst others, attempted to explain to you that the phrase "gay agenda" is loaded in ways you may not be aware of.

People were trying to figure out if you are intentionally using a loaded phrase or just making a normal statement.


And now you are mad? But you are also not sensitive? But also something about midterms? But also sorry everyone was offended? But also you are offended?


The fuck????



Couldn't you have just said "Oh word, I had no idea" and kept it moving?


I guess not, because you are so secure and rational

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50. "So...gay rights then...acceptable or nah...?"
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52. "reasonable ppl have just been saying "civil rights" for quite some time"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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55. "see reply 13"
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I asked...directly...if I used an offensive term...and made the request of the board, what term is correct to use

Here we are, 40 replies later...and the answer is 'civil rights'

is that the correct term...all I've been asking

I am not discounting the fact that I made a mistake with the language I used

It's fucking annoying to make repeated requests...just for the post to be strung out on some...hey, look at this neanderthal using the word agenda*

So I shouldn't say gay rights, I should say civil rights

?

I don't need a dissertation of a response, simple yes or no

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56. "RE: see reply 13"
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There are lots of terms. Gay rights is not the most inclusive term (akin to saying "black rights" instead of "civil rights" but it would be fine. You are not a professor emeritus, I gather.

I don't even think "agenda" is a necessarily pejorative word, just that using the whole phrase you used could lead people to think a certain thing.

I'm sure most of the things a reasonable person would think of saying are fine.

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51. "LMAO"
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>You asked why people were reacting that way and I, amongst
>others, attempted to explain to you that the phrase "gay
>agenda" is loaded in ways you may not be aware of.
>
>People were trying to figure out if you are intentionally
>using a loaded phrase or just making a normal statement.
>
>
>And now you are mad? But you are also not sensitive? But also
>something about midterms? But also sorry everyone was
>offended? But also you are offended?
>
>
>The fuck????
>
>
>
>Couldn't you have just said "Oh word, I had no idea" and kept
>it moving?
>
>
>I guess not, because you are so secure and rational

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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54. "lulz"
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>You asked why people were reacting that way and I, amongst
>others, attempted to explain to you that the phrase "gay
>agenda" is loaded in ways you may not be aware of.
>
>People were trying to figure out if you are intentionally
>using a loaded phrase or just making a normal statement.
>
>
>And now you are mad? But you are also not sensitive? But also
>something about midterms? But also sorry everyone was
>offended? But also you are offended?
>
>
>The fuck????
>
>
>
>Couldn't you have just said "Oh word, I had no idea" and kept
>it moving?
>
>
>I guess not, because you are so secure and rational

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53. "It's 2018 and people are still like this. "
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57. "WHITEBALLED, not blackballed."
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